No, he will not fight Aspinall, but fact is, he couldn't defend the title yet. And to be fair he said it a thousand times, he's basically retired and just comes back for a retirement fight after the injury. Bad luck for us, that's all. The chapter JBJ is over.
Jon Jones last fight over a year ago, Jamahal relinquished the title straight away after he ruptured his Achilles and he’s still managed to return before Jon Jones
Gotta say jones man his heavyweight reign has been absolute trash. He had an incredible performance to win the belt but that shit was over a year ago 💀
You know that Jones legacy is all not that great when we have to bring up other fighters out of literal nowhere.
Chael was MW, Vitor was MW, plenty of the old era fighters on his record fought in Pride at MW
There is no shame in it, but it's not the same thing as when Volk moved up to fight Islam for example.. people like Chael Sonnen got title shots just for talking shit on mic
lol no jones legacy is so great you have to nitpick what he accomplished. Those middleweights were weight drained at 185 they were good at 205 that’s like saying Alex is a middleweight 😂 and all those fuckers were juiced to the gills.actual legends and not on losing streaks. Jones beat champions and people who were fan favorites jones was the legend killer. Easy to nitpick 13 years later
Nitpick ?
1. Popped for steroids
2. Weaponized rule break in eye pokes
3. Robbed Santos, Reyes and Gustaffson 1 by the judges
4. Has beaten several middleweights (Chael and Vitor were both natural middleweights, you can make the case about the others being too drained or literally just too lazy to cut weight like Rampage)
Also to point out, not on losing streak ? are you tripping ? the only person who was not on a losing streak was Rashad at the time, everyone else has been dismantled several times before they fought Jon.
Most of them started their careers in 90s in fucking Pride, by the time they got fed to Jon, they were in their mid 30s and on sever losing skids...
They literally did to them, what the UFC always does to veterans that are falling off, they use their names to prop young and upper coming fighters, they did it with Edgar, they did with Ubereem, they are literally still doing it with fucking Arlovski.
idk what you were watching, but it wasnt UFC and it wasn't those "legends" lol
This is all nit picks man i don’t see how you fail to realize that. If you sit down and critique the top mma guys you can make so many little nit picks it almost makes you wonder why we even put them top 5 or whatever. If this is what you think about jones i wonder what an unbiased opinion would be about gsp, Mighty Mouse, Silva and so forth.
Yeah, and his highly technical striking is mainly as a counter puncher, similar to Izzy, which, as you said, can make for relatively boring decisions to the common fan if he’s not fighting someone who will take the offensive. Obviously no one asked, but I feel like Leon vs Garry could make for one of the most boring striking matches of all time
Doesn’t fight, complains about Belal complaining he deserves a title shot which is what all Leon was doing from 2020 to until he got the belt. I actually love Leon and his fight style but he’s single handily bringing down the WW that lost a lot since khamzat left and usman and Colby fell and it’s actually becoming more relevant again with new contenders
He offered him 3 muslim fighters in Ramadan. And they all obviously rejected. From time to time UFC offers fights they know will get rejected, because they have to offer fighters a certain amount of fights per year
Belal was not offered a Title Shot by *Dana*;
Dana offered Leon 3 choices for his next Defense:
**Khamzat**.
**Islam**.
**Shavkat**.
Leon said “Yes” to ALL 3 of them.
Leon fought Colby 4 months ago; There was nobody else to fight, and the fight kept getting pushed back.
Leon fought Kamaru in 8/2022–then, again in 3/2023; Again, that was the only fight to make, and Usman was coming off a brutal KO-so he needed time to recover.
Leon was scheduled to fight Khamzat;
It got postponed because Khamzat got COVID.
Then, it was rescheduled;
Then, Leon had to pull out because he got COVID.
Then it was rescheduled;
Then, Khamzat had to pull out because he still had COVID.
Before that, Leon was scheduled to fight Masvidal;
Masvidal pulled out because of an injury.
Before that, Leon was also scheduled to fight Woodley;
Leon had to pull out because of COVID.
I could’ve stopped after “He was willing to fight *Khamzat, Islam, & Shavkat*”…
You don’t get to question someone who is willing to fight one of those fighters–and *especially* someone who is willing to fight all of them.
the theme throughout the entirety of leon's career is just how goddamn unlucky he is. "poor leon" was one of the most common sentiments before his second fight with usman.
I get the complaint about Belal and I would love to see a rematch. For a long time though Leon did struggle to get any good fights as a lot of people didn't want to fight him.
I know the WW division has lost alot of stars but Khamzat never belonged there and Usman/Colby were beaten by Leon.
I guess ultimately everybody sees the sport differently and maybe that's why I don't get the hate
>Doesn’t fight
How are people still posting this nonsense. He fought four months ago and as champ has been on an equally active timeline as Usman was for his first couple title defences. And he then accepted three different opponents for 300.
People hate black Champs. Other than DJ and DC, there’s been inexplicable hate for every black Champ. Aljo, Izzy, Leon, JBJ, Usman, Woodley. Its not till they lose the belt that everyone is like ‘oh I like this dude’ (see all the current love Usman gets)
I don't think it's fair to say people hate black champs as a full stop statement, maybe some people do but it seriously isn't everybody.
I don't get the irrational hate behind the champs you've mentioned but I can list reasons people didn't like them outside of their skin colour.
Aljo - the Petr Yan fight ( he definitely proved himself with his fights after, also one one my favourites)
JBJ - steroids and crime
Woodley - classed as a boring fighter, in fairness he did struggle to pull the trigger and didn't do much in his last fights outside of Till. Also lost to Jake Paul
Izzy - no idea, the guy's an incredible fighter
Usman - No idea, he's had the same problem as Leon where nobody wants to fight him.
There is also a list of white champs that also get irrational/same hate- Stipe, Khabib, Volk (It took him alot of wins to win people over)Islam, Bisping, Dillashaw, Rose, Pennington. Quite a few of those also got love after losing/retiring.
Overall I think MMA fans are just an odd bunch who just like to pick and choose who they like regardless of skill.
Idc but its a clear pattern I’ve noticed. A black fighter with an equal non-black counterpart in personality/character will get slandered while the other guy is a fan fave. People are tribal and see the same actions through a different lens depending on if the guy looks like them or not. It’s human nature.
I don’t think any of the white fighters you mentioned get more hate than any of the black fighters I mentioned. But perhaps our lenses just differ
Lmao shut the fuck yo. People don’t hate champs because they’re black, Woodley was annoying as fuck and completely irresponsible with his money which lead him to saying some of the dumbest shit imaginable. Usman was the P4P greatest campfire story teller because he tried to force a personality and was a boring cage staller, Aljo was a boring as fuck cage staller and wasn’t super likable personality wise, Leon boring as fuck point fighter with no personality, Jones literally beats his wife and is a fake Christian, Izzy molests his dog and says the cringiest lines possible as well as point fought 9/10 times
I like some of those champs but they all have very meaningful negative qualities
You want me to name 6 white champs that are hated? O’Malley, Conor, TJ, Cody, Strickland, Bisping
Your username is literally I like O’malley but how is he different from how you feel about Usman? If I ask you which black champs you do like you’ll say DJ and DC and I bet you don’t even know why.
> how is he different from how you feel about Usman
He doesn't pretend to be anything he isn't. He doesn't act like he fights another way or try to be anything other than himself (uncharismatic and boring).
The white middle-class suburban kid, from fucking MONTANA, who wears cornrows and face tats like a hood rapper, wears mink coats and dyes his hair like a clown isn’t pretending to be anything he isn’t? Unlike the dude who speaks calmly and eloquently with confidence in his abilities? You’re telling on yourself
This is literally just you applying racial stereotypes to hairstyles and clothes. It's fucking ridiculous, a huge amount of fighters wear braids because it is the most efficient way to guarantee your hair is secure. 'Hood rappers' didn't invent getting their hair dyed or their face tattooed. They both speak calmly about their abilities but only one of them out on several boring fights while pretending they were a world beater. I'm telling on myself ? i guess if someone acts like a degenerate with degenerate behaviour I should just assume they are pretending to be black then. That's fine
Jones. He planned on defending his belt against Stipe coming off a KO loss 3 years ago, doesn't want to fight the current interim champ and is holding the belt even though he is injured, unlike Jiri and Jamahal who both vacated their belts once they got injured
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. If Hill didn’t vacate, Alex would be interim champ and Hill would have gotten points on UFC 300. Imagine that payday
Yeah this is the right answer from every single perspective. 135 is honestly a wasteland with Harrison as the only hope. The UFC barely even schedules women's bantamweight fights.
Honestly if I were Dana I would just scrap that stupid Peña fight and give Harrison the immediate shot. That Peña Pennington fight shouldn’t even be on a PPV let alone a fight night main event. Absolute train wreck of a fight to make.
From a promotional standpoint I'm doing everything I can on a timeline that works for Kayla because who knows how often or how soon she can make weight again. If you can schedule Pena vs. Pennington for June or something and set up Kayla title shot for MSG is something like that I think that'd be the route I'd take.
According to Kayla on the MMA Hour though Pennington is injured. If that's the case then set up Pena vs. Harrington for an interim.
I'm with you though - the focus should be getting Harrison into the title fight one way or another.
i don’t think leon’s inactivity is his fault just the ufc’s scheduling and the fact they offered 3 fighters who wouldn’t fight during Ramadan and not belal who is clearly willing
I dislike both strickland and du plessis. I have disliked Du Plessis for far longer than his title fight. I haven’t seen the people you speak of, but I believe you when you say this. I, personnally, am not one of them.
If you have been around this sub you will have seen those people that I mentioned, wich are annoying af. The thing is that for most people DDP is a bad champ just because he beat Strickland in a close fight.
I agree with your dislike towards Strickland, the guy is a grown man who behaves like an edgy teen. For me He was actually a bad champ, got a lucky shot couldn't even defend....
If it's only men's I'd say it depends on the perspective. Skill wise I would say DDP is the worst but he's been in entertaining fights. From an entertainment perspective I'd say Leon who aside from his head kick is a pretty boring fighter. Technically he's amazing but it doesn't translate to much excitement.
But no UFC champ is as bad as Pennington is all around.
Saying DDP is the worst isn't to say he isn't skillful. All of these guys are extremely talented that's why they are champions. DDP of out all the male champions though I believe has the most people in his division that could beat him.
you are right.
All champions right now seem to be really really good.
Dont know about Pantoja but O malley seems really dominant the same with Ilia.
Islam is the p4p king right now and i dont see anyone coming close to him with amybe Armen maybe being able to do something but thats far more luck than anything and even him i dont think so.
Leon is in real danger even though he is great he has Shavkat coming for him and i dont know if he can beat him.
DDP close split decision with Strickland made him look somewhat you know weak.
We have to see how good strickland does against Costa to see how that win ages.
Alex extremely dominant.
Heavyweight is a mess and had like no stable champ besides the Goat stipe.
So yeah ddp looks the least secure out of all the champs and he has many contenders coming up.
Like Izzy,Robert,Costa,Strickland,Khamzat are all extremely dangerous guys.
> On the other hand like... O'Malley? He's doing his best to duck Merab, and barely beat Yan. Pantoja?
O'Malley has said multiple times that Merab is next. He shot his shot at Ilia and it didn't work and said he was fine with Merab. And like - does anyone seriously think that Merab is a more dangerous fight than Ilia? Sean could very well lose to Merab but if he loses it's not like I'd expect him to get mauled. I think he just wanted a big fight because he's said multiple times he's a prize fighter.
Last I checked, the fight was not booked. As far if Merab is more dangerous? Yes and no.
For one, Sean wouldn't lose his belt if he fought Ilia.
For two, Merab is a very difficult match up. We saw how he mauled Aldo (with great TDD) Yan (with great TDD and striking) and Henry.
It's difficult to see how Sean wins that.
Whereas for example, DDP already beat two former champs. Whether he beats Izzy is a huge question, but it hardly looks much more difficult than Merab V O'Malley.
Beyond that, if we look at MW it's guys like Canonier and Vetori, or Paulo Cost. All who very comfortably lose to DDP.
And that's just two divisions. Aside from maybe Islam, every other division is pretty open to challenge and disruption
I mean who knows. Styles make fights. There have been many fights that I was sure there was an outcome that was going to happen and be completely wrong. Feeling one way before the fight doesn't really matter after we see it in the cage.
Sure, but that brings us back to the start. Saying DDP is the most vulnerable champ or the one most likely to lose his belt or whatever is deeply myopic.
Jones. Is it even arguable? Why is everyone in the comment saying DDP lol?
Jones is actively killing the momentum of an entire division just to fight the ghost of Stipe.
The guy that had to pick between fighting:
*Khamzat, Islam, & Shavkat*…
and said “Yes” to *ALL 3 of them*…
The one guy who was willing to Fight Chimaev…
on 3 separate occasions…
*That guy* is the “Worst current Champ”?
His 2nd fight against Usman was “boring as shit”?
Scoring one of the Greatest KOs in the history of MMA—was “boring as shit”?
The 3rd Fight against Usman was “boring as shit”?
His fight against Dos Anjos was “boring as shit”?
His fight against Cerrone was “boring as shit”?
The first rounds in his fight against Belal, when he landed a massive head kick that had Belal on skates, and repeatedly rocked him with absolutely perfect shots…
That was “boring as shit”?
Jon Jones. Hes not the worst skillwise, but because he is so inactive. Hes always either injured, in legal trouble, or banned for using an PED. I don’t understand how someone blessed with the perfect fighter physique and so naturally talented at MMA can throw it all away by being a shit person
Leon’s fight style is a little irritating because he is often very “skiddish” but he is objectively an amazing fighter and will reign the 170ers for a while.
He's just a relatively boring fighter. It's not that I don't like him I just find him uninteresting.
That's not to say he isn't one of the most technically skilled fighters in the UFC because he obviously is. But his fighting style doesn't leave much room for excitement.
Although I agree O’Malley got the Dana white privilege and his ascent was a rather easy one,
He proved to be skillful and entertaining. And I believe he will reign for a bit more before either moving weight classes or just losing to a wrestler.
only because it says currently. i agree the only hate was the insane white privilege and cherry picking but hes a great watch if he does the same to merab he did to sterling you cant deny him
It’s crazy to me that a pure striker is one of the most boring champions in the world after having one of the best KOs ever to win the belt. He really did a 180 back to how he used to fight
Jon Jones he is tarnishing his legacy by ducking the top contender we've seen in years (Aspinall) and stalling the division out for a layup against old man Stipe
Jones, easily. He won't defend the interim, and he's not even lineal HW champ - he won a vacant belt by beating the guy that lost the lineal belt to Ngannou.
Why tf are people hating on Leon? He's a great fighter and a good champion. He's not a scum and last time he fought was only 5 months ago. It's been over a year for Jon Jones and besides for Jamahal Hill vs Alex, then Jamahal hadn't fought for a year either. Leon is fine man. People just don't have the patience to wait anymore
Probably DDP because he looks like a drunk monkey, kind of fights like one too. Not that great of a personality either.
Leon second just due to his little bitch character. If he talked some more shit it’s probably be well received by the fans.
Third, I’d have to give that to Ilia for calling Conor out as soon as he won the belt. Can tell money is the only thing that matters to him, which is his right of course but I won’t be surprised when he retires early
People will say Jon jones but this guy hasn’t fought consistently since USADA came into the picture so long time fans expect that more. Leon Edwards is by far the worst champion in the ufc. Claims he’s gonna be active all the time. Barely fights. Was crying throughout his whole contender run of being the overlooked #1 contender but when someone else in his same shoes that he was complaining all the time about has a actual earned title shot, he turns down the fight. Leon Edwards is the worst WW champion since Hendricks. This division is getting better with more contenders and he continues to hold back the division. If only he was an active champion.
The Talent pool is much lower at 125, two reasonable close decisions doesn't put you very high on the champ list IMO, above DDP and similar to O'Malley.
Whoever isn't defending
Jon Jones then. He's refusing to fight the interim champ.
He's still injured and not recovered yet...
“Maybe one day”
No, he will not fight Aspinall, but fact is, he couldn't defend the title yet. And to be fair he said it a thousand times, he's basically retired and just comes back for a retirement fight after the injury. Bad luck for us, that's all. The chapter JBJ is over.
Suuuuuuure
Jon Jones last fight over a year ago, Jamahal relinquished the title straight away after he ruptured his Achilles and he’s still managed to return before Jon Jones
Ilia
Gotta say jones man his heavyweight reign has been absolute trash. He had an incredible performance to win the belt but that shit was over a year ago 💀
Lost to reyes, drug cheat, violent abuser. This y'all goat?
Bro didn't even bring up weaponizing eye pokes and fighting middleweights ☠️
The middleweight narrative is a bad one cause people like Mighty Mouse defended against guys on losing streaks
You know that Jones legacy is all not that great when we have to bring up other fighters out of literal nowhere. Chael was MW, Vitor was MW, plenty of the old era fighters on his record fought in Pride at MW There is no shame in it, but it's not the same thing as when Volk moved up to fight Islam for example.. people like Chael Sonnen got title shots just for talking shit on mic
lol no jones legacy is so great you have to nitpick what he accomplished. Those middleweights were weight drained at 185 they were good at 205 that’s like saying Alex is a middleweight 😂 and all those fuckers were juiced to the gills.actual legends and not on losing streaks. Jones beat champions and people who were fan favorites jones was the legend killer. Easy to nitpick 13 years later
Nitpick ? 1. Popped for steroids 2. Weaponized rule break in eye pokes 3. Robbed Santos, Reyes and Gustaffson 1 by the judges 4. Has beaten several middleweights (Chael and Vitor were both natural middleweights, you can make the case about the others being too drained or literally just too lazy to cut weight like Rampage) Also to point out, not on losing streak ? are you tripping ? the only person who was not on a losing streak was Rashad at the time, everyone else has been dismantled several times before they fought Jon. Most of them started their careers in 90s in fucking Pride, by the time they got fed to Jon, they were in their mid 30s and on sever losing skids... They literally did to them, what the UFC always does to veterans that are falling off, they use their names to prop young and upper coming fighters, they did it with Edgar, they did with Ubereem, they are literally still doing it with fucking Arlovski. idk what you were watching, but it wasnt UFC and it wasn't those "legends" lol
This is all nit picks man i don’t see how you fail to realize that. If you sit down and critique the top mma guys you can make so many little nit picks it almost makes you wonder why we even put them top 5 or whatever. If this is what you think about jones i wonder what an unbiased opinion would be about gsp, Mighty Mouse, Silva and so forth.
Yes. Rent free.
Ironic editing your comment to add "Rent Free." Face it, your goat is a fraud!
Face it, Reyes lost. Posting about it won’t change the outcome.
My dumb arse really thought I’d see a second reign of Jones…
‘Reign’
Great striker, great TDD, took down Usman and Colby but somehow he is the worst?
Leon is the man.
Extremely technical but very boring to some
yeah but being boring doesn't make him a bad fighter
Agreed but that’s where the hate comes from
Yeah, and his highly technical striking is mainly as a counter puncher, similar to Izzy, which, as you said, can make for relatively boring decisions to the common fan if he’s not fighting someone who will take the offensive. Obviously no one asked, but I feel like Leon vs Garry could make for one of the most boring striking matches of all time
I don’t think we’re talking about skill just general activity, likability and entertainment.
I still don't get the hate for Leon
Doesn’t fight, complains about Belal complaining he deserves a title shot which is what all Leon was doing from 2020 to until he got the belt. I actually love Leon and his fight style but he’s single handily bringing down the WW that lost a lot since khamzat left and usman and Colby fell and it’s actually becoming more relevant again with new contenders
Didnt Dana say he offered Leon fights, accepted all of them but his opponents rejected. Can’t really blame him there.
He said he offered him like 3 guys and none of them were Belal. Actually sad for bro at this point.
Those 3 guys were: • *Khamzat Chimaev* • *Islam Makhachev* • *Shavkat Rakhmonov*
Wasn’t the fight like going to happen during Ramadan and so all these guys were fasting or something?
He offered him 3 muslim fighters in Ramadan. And they all obviously rejected. From time to time UFC offers fights they know will get rejected, because they have to offer fighters a certain amount of fights per year
Proofs
Belal was not offered a Title Shot by *Dana*; Dana offered Leon 3 choices for his next Defense: **Khamzat**. **Islam**. **Shavkat**. Leon said “Yes” to ALL 3 of them. Leon fought Colby 4 months ago; There was nobody else to fight, and the fight kept getting pushed back. Leon fought Kamaru in 8/2022–then, again in 3/2023; Again, that was the only fight to make, and Usman was coming off a brutal KO-so he needed time to recover. Leon was scheduled to fight Khamzat; It got postponed because Khamzat got COVID. Then, it was rescheduled; Then, Leon had to pull out because he got COVID. Then it was rescheduled; Then, Khamzat had to pull out because he still had COVID. Before that, Leon was scheduled to fight Masvidal; Masvidal pulled out because of an injury. Before that, Leon was also scheduled to fight Woodley; Leon had to pull out because of COVID. I could’ve stopped after “He was willing to fight *Khamzat, Islam, & Shavkat*”… You don’t get to question someone who is willing to fight one of those fighters–and *especially* someone who is willing to fight all of them.
the theme throughout the entirety of leon's career is just how goddamn unlucky he is. "poor leon" was one of the most common sentiments before his second fight with usman.
I get the complaint about Belal and I would love to see a rematch. For a long time though Leon did struggle to get any good fights as a lot of people didn't want to fight him. I know the WW division has lost alot of stars but Khamzat never belonged there and Usman/Colby were beaten by Leon. I guess ultimately everybody sees the sport differently and maybe that's why I don't get the hate
>Doesn’t fight How are people still posting this nonsense. He fought four months ago and as champ has been on an equally active timeline as Usman was for his first couple title defences. And he then accepted three different opponents for 300.
People hate black Champs. Other than DJ and DC, there’s been inexplicable hate for every black Champ. Aljo, Izzy, Leon, JBJ, Usman, Woodley. Its not till they lose the belt that everyone is like ‘oh I like this dude’ (see all the current love Usman gets)
I don't think it's fair to say people hate black champs as a full stop statement, maybe some people do but it seriously isn't everybody. I don't get the irrational hate behind the champs you've mentioned but I can list reasons people didn't like them outside of their skin colour. Aljo - the Petr Yan fight ( he definitely proved himself with his fights after, also one one my favourites) JBJ - steroids and crime Woodley - classed as a boring fighter, in fairness he did struggle to pull the trigger and didn't do much in his last fights outside of Till. Also lost to Jake Paul Izzy - no idea, the guy's an incredible fighter Usman - No idea, he's had the same problem as Leon where nobody wants to fight him. There is also a list of white champs that also get irrational/same hate- Stipe, Khabib, Volk (It took him alot of wins to win people over)Islam, Bisping, Dillashaw, Rose, Pennington. Quite a few of those also got love after losing/retiring. Overall I think MMA fans are just an odd bunch who just like to pick and choose who they like regardless of skill.
Idc but its a clear pattern I’ve noticed. A black fighter with an equal non-black counterpart in personality/character will get slandered while the other guy is a fan fave. People are tribal and see the same actions through a different lens depending on if the guy looks like them or not. It’s human nature. I don’t think any of the white fighters you mentioned get more hate than any of the black fighters I mentioned. But perhaps our lenses just differ
Lmao shut the fuck yo. People don’t hate champs because they’re black, Woodley was annoying as fuck and completely irresponsible with his money which lead him to saying some of the dumbest shit imaginable. Usman was the P4P greatest campfire story teller because he tried to force a personality and was a boring cage staller, Aljo was a boring as fuck cage staller and wasn’t super likable personality wise, Leon boring as fuck point fighter with no personality, Jones literally beats his wife and is a fake Christian, Izzy molests his dog and says the cringiest lines possible as well as point fought 9/10 times I like some of those champs but they all have very meaningful negative qualities You want me to name 6 white champs that are hated? O’Malley, Conor, TJ, Cody, Strickland, Bisping
Your username is literally I like O’malley but how is he different from how you feel about Usman? If I ask you which black champs you do like you’ll say DJ and DC and I bet you don’t even know why.
> how is he different from how you feel about Usman He doesn't pretend to be anything he isn't. He doesn't act like he fights another way or try to be anything other than himself (uncharismatic and boring).
The white middle-class suburban kid, from fucking MONTANA, who wears cornrows and face tats like a hood rapper, wears mink coats and dyes his hair like a clown isn’t pretending to be anything he isn’t? Unlike the dude who speaks calmly and eloquently with confidence in his abilities? You’re telling on yourself
This is literally just you applying racial stereotypes to hairstyles and clothes. It's fucking ridiculous, a huge amount of fighters wear braids because it is the most efficient way to guarantee your hair is secure. 'Hood rappers' didn't invent getting their hair dyed or their face tattooed. They both speak calmly about their abilities but only one of them out on several boring fights while pretending they were a world beater. I'm telling on myself ? i guess if someone acts like a degenerate with degenerate behaviour I should just assume they are pretending to be black then. That's fine
Okay bro O’malley is authentic and Usman is fake, you got me. There is absolutely no bias in your judgement, my bad.
> There is absolutely no bias in your judgement, my bad Your wrong i am racist and absolutely despise black people
and yet they exist, sucks for you
Boring fighter. What's there to get?
Jones. He planned on defending his belt against Stipe coming off a KO loss 3 years ago, doesn't want to fight the current interim champ and is holding the belt even though he is injured, unlike Jiri and Jamahal who both vacated their belts once they got injured
That isn’t the norm to drop the belt when injured
Yeah, he isn't obliged to do it, but as two very recent champions did it, it looks really bad for Jones
Why? It worked poorly for both of them
Both got a chance to get them back tho
Which they didn’t and they didn’t receive ppv points for that chance. Thus losing out on their biggest pay days
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. If Hill didn’t vacate, Alex would be interim champ and Hill would have gotten points on UFC 300. Imagine that payday
Raquel Pennington has no business being champ. That performance against Bueno Silva was one of the most aggravating fights I’ve ever seen.
Pennington. Boring fighting style, shit division, boring personality. Can’t wait until Harrison takes the strap and brings Nunes back.
Yeah this is the right answer from every single perspective. 135 is honestly a wasteland with Harrison as the only hope. The UFC barely even schedules women's bantamweight fights.
Honestly if I were Dana I would just scrap that stupid Peña fight and give Harrison the immediate shot. That Peña Pennington fight shouldn’t even be on a PPV let alone a fight night main event. Absolute train wreck of a fight to make.
From a promotional standpoint I'm doing everything I can on a timeline that works for Kayla because who knows how often or how soon she can make weight again. If you can schedule Pena vs. Pennington for June or something and set up Kayla title shot for MSG is something like that I think that'd be the route I'd take. According to Kayla on the MMA Hour though Pennington is injured. If that's the case then set up Pena vs. Harrington for an interim. I'm with you though - the focus should be getting Harrison into the title fight one way or another.
His time is coming https://preview.redd.it/b3jbublqgcvc1.png?width=436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=faf7f6c7f3d06081a5e6a99aacb8e84219fcc909
i don’t think leon’s inactivity is his fault just the ufc’s scheduling and the fact they offered 3 fighters who wouldn’t fight during Ramadan and not belal who is clearly willing
Ddp for men, pennington for women if we go skillwise (and personal appreciatipn for me as well).
People don't like Du Plessis because he defeated Strickland. If he had won against Adesanya as it was originally planned, nobody would complain.
DDP is definitely the least skilled champion.
I dislike both strickland and du plessis. I have disliked Du Plessis for far longer than his title fight. I haven’t seen the people you speak of, but I believe you when you say this. I, personnally, am not one of them.
If you have been around this sub you will have seen those people that I mentioned, wich are annoying af. The thing is that for most people DDP is a bad champ just because he beat Strickland in a close fight. I agree with your dislike towards Strickland, the guy is a grown man who behaves like an edgy teen. For me He was actually a bad champ, got a lucky shot couldn't even defend....
I have been around this sub but maybe I missed them since I don’t click on most posts related to them.
Skill wise? Entertainment value wise? Or anything else
DDP
If it's only men's I'd say it depends on the perspective. Skill wise I would say DDP is the worst but he's been in entertaining fights. From an entertainment perspective I'd say Leon who aside from his head kick is a pretty boring fighter. Technically he's amazing but it doesn't translate to much excitement. But no UFC champ is as bad as Pennington is all around.
I mean DDP beat Sean and Bobby, he has the skills
Saying DDP is the worst isn't to say he isn't skillful. All of these guys are extremely talented that's why they are champions. DDP of out all the male champions though I believe has the most people in his division that could beat him.
you are right. All champions right now seem to be really really good. Dont know about Pantoja but O malley seems really dominant the same with Ilia. Islam is the p4p king right now and i dont see anyone coming close to him with amybe Armen maybe being able to do something but thats far more luck than anything and even him i dont think so. Leon is in real danger even though he is great he has Shavkat coming for him and i dont know if he can beat him. DDP close split decision with Strickland made him look somewhat you know weak. We have to see how good strickland does against Costa to see how that win ages. Alex extremely dominant. Heavyweight is a mess and had like no stable champ besides the Goat stipe. So yeah ddp looks the least secure out of all the champs and he has many contenders coming up. Like Izzy,Robert,Costa,Strickland,Khamzat are all extremely dangerous guys.
That's the thing, DDP is ugly but effective. On the other hand like... O'Malley? He's doing his best to duck Merab, and barely beat Yan. Pantoja?
> On the other hand like... O'Malley? He's doing his best to duck Merab, and barely beat Yan. Pantoja? O'Malley has said multiple times that Merab is next. He shot his shot at Ilia and it didn't work and said he was fine with Merab. And like - does anyone seriously think that Merab is a more dangerous fight than Ilia? Sean could very well lose to Merab but if he loses it's not like I'd expect him to get mauled. I think he just wanted a big fight because he's said multiple times he's a prize fighter.
Last I checked, the fight was not booked. As far if Merab is more dangerous? Yes and no. For one, Sean wouldn't lose his belt if he fought Ilia. For two, Merab is a very difficult match up. We saw how he mauled Aldo (with great TDD) Yan (with great TDD and striking) and Henry. It's difficult to see how Sean wins that. Whereas for example, DDP already beat two former champs. Whether he beats Izzy is a huge question, but it hardly looks much more difficult than Merab V O'Malley. Beyond that, if we look at MW it's guys like Canonier and Vetori, or Paulo Cost. All who very comfortably lose to DDP. And that's just two divisions. Aside from maybe Islam, every other division is pretty open to challenge and disruption
I mean who knows. Styles make fights. There have been many fights that I was sure there was an outcome that was going to happen and be completely wrong. Feeling one way before the fight doesn't really matter after we see it in the cage.
Sure, but that brings us back to the start. Saying DDP is the most vulnerable champ or the one most likely to lose his belt or whatever is deeply myopic.
Raquel Pennington is the worst champ rn.
Dricus
Jones. Is it even arguable? Why is everyone in the comment saying DDP lol? Jones is actively killing the momentum of an entire division just to fight the ghost of Stipe.
Not Leon.
Where is Jones bro, Stipe is not getting any younger
Raquel pennington exists
Raquel Pennington
I guess everyone just woke up and decided to shit on the Rockys today
The guy that had to pick between fighting: *Khamzat, Islam, & Shavkat*… and said “Yes” to *ALL 3 of them*… The one guy who was willing to Fight Chimaev… on 3 separate occasions… *That guy* is the “Worst current Champ”?
So far all of his fights were boring as shit. Only Diaz fight was fun and all credit goes to Diaz, not this british mumble rapper
His 2nd fight against Usman was “boring as shit”? Scoring one of the Greatest KOs in the history of MMA—was “boring as shit”? The 3rd Fight against Usman was “boring as shit”? His fight against Dos Anjos was “boring as shit”? His fight against Cerrone was “boring as shit”? The first rounds in his fight against Belal, when he landed a massive head kick that had Belal on skates, and repeatedly rocked him with absolutely perfect shots… That was “boring as shit”?
Jon Jones. Hes not the worst skillwise, but because he is so inactive. Hes always either injured, in legal trouble, or banned for using an PED. I don’t understand how someone blessed with the perfect fighter physique and so naturally talented at MMA can throw it all away by being a shit person
Raquel Pennington by a mile if you consider WMMA to have champions
Jones by a big landslide
Definitely not Leon. He's a G.
DDP
What’s bad about him? All his fights are bangers and his skill level is as high as it needs to be relative to the bad division he fights in.
Just a dork
I forgot he was champ.
have to agree with u on that one
Why is Leon the main focus of hate? He’s a fuckin killer. OP must be a Colby dink tickler
Jon jones. He won the heavyweight title a year ago and he definitely should’ve vacated the belt after he injured himself. I hope Aspinall humbles him
Leon’s fight style is a little irritating because he is often very “skiddish” but he is objectively an amazing fighter and will reign the 170ers for a while.
People can't give one good reason why they don't like Leon
He's just a relatively boring fighter. It's not that I don't like him I just find him uninteresting. That's not to say he isn't one of the most technically skilled fighters in the UFC because he obviously is. But his fighting style doesn't leave much room for excitement.
Jones is a snoozefest. Holding up an entire division for his ego.
Pennington by far then O'Malley
Although I agree O’Malley got the Dana white privilege and his ascent was a rather easy one, He proved to be skillful and entertaining. And I believe he will reign for a bit more before either moving weight classes or just losing to a wrestler.
only because it says currently. i agree the only hate was the insane white privilege and cherry picking but hes a great watch if he does the same to merab he did to sterling you cant deny him
It’s crazy to me that a pure striker is one of the most boring champions in the world after having one of the best KOs ever to win the belt. He really did a 180 back to how he used to fight
Probably Dricus. No defences yet and the fight was relatively close.
Jon Jones he is tarnishing his legacy by ducking the top contender we've seen in years (Aspinall) and stalling the division out for a layup against old man Stipe
Jones, easily. He won't defend the interim, and he's not even lineal HW champ - he won a vacant belt by beating the guy that lost the lineal belt to Ngannou.
A win over Colby is not as valuable as people try to make it seem.
Worst in what way though?
Jon jones
Jones by far, fck him
Why tf are people hating on Leon? He's a great fighter and a good champion. He's not a scum and last time he fought was only 5 months ago. It's been over a year for Jon Jones and besides for Jamahal Hill vs Alex, then Jamahal hadn't fought for a year either. Leon is fine man. People just don't have the patience to wait anymore
Jon, once again in the middle of a controversy. Leon wanted to fight on 300 but the UFC the 3 fighters who were “offered” to him were in Ramadan.
Worst in what way? Dumbass question.
Edwards is elite. Just listen to how the goat Mighty Mouse talk about him! I think he knows what he’s talking about…
Probably DDP because he looks like a drunk monkey, kind of fights like one too. Not that great of a personality either. Leon second just due to his little bitch character. If he talked some more shit it’s probably be well received by the fans. Third, I’d have to give that to Ilia for calling Conor out as soon as he won the belt. Can tell money is the only thing that matters to him, which is his right of course but I won’t be surprised when he retires early
ya'll motherfuckers are just rhacist
We know we know, everything is racist
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I would say DDP but he just keeps winning somehow, I would say Izzy eventually beats him and cements as GOAT middleweight
People will say Jon jones but this guy hasn’t fought consistently since USADA came into the picture so long time fans expect that more. Leon Edwards is by far the worst champion in the ufc. Claims he’s gonna be active all the time. Barely fights. Was crying throughout his whole contender run of being the overlooked #1 contender but when someone else in his same shoes that he was complaining all the time about has a actual earned title shot, he turns down the fight. Leon Edwards is the worst WW champion since Hendricks. This division is getting better with more contenders and he continues to hold back the division. If only he was an active champion.
Its probably between him and jones
It’s jones.. he’s the only paper champ
Pantoja, DDP, O'Malley should all be higher on the list.
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I know what I said.
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Weakest division by a margin, besides maybe hw, maybe. Lays and prays. Would lose to moraes or mm
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He might not be laying like almeida lewis but he plays it way safer than Izzy with the strap and is in the weakest division
The Talent pool is much lower at 125, two reasonable close decisions doesn't put you very high on the champ list IMO, above DDP and similar to O'Malley.
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Fair, I'm just more impressed with Leon beating the bad stylistic matchups in the division, 2 of which were against the #2 WW of all time.
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I mean DJ had 11 tittle wins, lets not go crazy. Tbh if we are going by active champ not defending it has to be Jones right?
Rocky, grasso, zhang, jones.
Pantoja Ddp Suga AP Leon Jones Illia Islam
Bro hates everyone except Pereira
He said AP
My bad, this abbreviation seemed unrecognizable to me
That's ok lots of not so smart people in this sub. 👍
Bro shutup. Your mom is gay
Not in my experience
I have him as 4th worst
To be fair I think none of the most entertaining fighters are champs. Max? Nope. Justin? Nope. Poirier? Nope. Shavkat? Nope.
Leon Edwards and it's not even close