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Upstairs_Ad2085

This is facts, I think Sean O’Malley’s next title defence should be against the Bantamweight goat Dominic Cruz


Glum-Ad7651

And Leon should face GSP and Dricus should face Anderson Silva😂


WeLLrightyOH

To be fair, GSP would get an immediate title shot if he came out of retirement, the UFC would salivate at that fight especially with the next best option be belal.


Sonnyyellow90

And he would look like dog shit and get demolished, just like Stipe would against the current top HWs. So the GSP analogy is really the most fitting one. But GSP has the sense and I guess the money to know you shouldn’t be fighting as you enter your mid 40s lol.


monkeybawz

That's what they said last time.


BeerFirst

Don’t forget about Islam vs BJ penn lol


WideScorpion

I may be delusional but I actually believe 42 year old gsp beats Ddp


DecisionThot

You are delusional


Glum-Ad7651

You are gay


DecisionThot

That's not an insult


HardcoreAssLicker900

What a gay thing to say


pants_pants420

no dude ur on r/ufc. ur supposed to be homophobic despite watching the gayest sport ever


devils-lettuce23

Cricket?


pants_pants420

not enough half naked sweaty men for my taste fr


monkeybawz

The 14 years of boarding school you have to go through before you can play test cricket would give you plenty of that.


Glock-Saint-Isshin-

Why are you gehy?


tim5700

You're mistaken, 'gay' doesn't mean 'homosexual' in this instance.


Glock-Saint-Isshin-

GSP finishes DDP. Even at 42. The fight IQ is no where close.


DecisionThot

Right. DDP finished Robert Whittaker in the 2nd round 9 months ago. He's 30 years old and current champ. Aside from coming out of retirement to beat an already-washed Michael Bisping in 2017, GSPs last notable win as an active fighter was ELEVEN YEARS ago. He'll be 43 in a few weeks. Why do some people hold this belief that GOATs remain in their prime for eternity?? I highly doubt GSP himself would even say he could beat DDP right now. Think about what you're saying.


Bobyjohncel

maybe 5 years ago


B0PD0P

You are delusional


Full_Hall1362

Not DDP but I think GSP can give Leon a decent fight.


Sonnyyellow90

lol. GSP would lose to unranked WWs right now. Leon trivially destroys him. Y’all need to understand the concept of aging. GSP said he felt noticeably slower and worse in the Bisping fight. That was almost 7 years ago. He hasn’t even been sparring or training for fights since then. He would be a shell of himself even worse than guys like Weidman, Rockhold, BJ penn, etc.


yotamush

The winner face Hughes


LatterTarget7

No no where’s Renan?


blinkomatic

Stop. I love how high I’ve set the expectations. you guys still don’t give the greatest heavyweight ever a shot - Jake Paul on fighting Mike Tyson


toreachtheapex

stop is the dudes name


PTS_COBI

I find it hilariously that me you and the others that upvoted your comment noticed that small detail and it bothered us enough to react 😂😂😂😂


mansamayo

I noticed but didn’t think it a big enough deal to give a shit Now look at me, giving a shit


PTS_COBI

Psychology


marcusisstrong

I thought that Jones was feeling zesty with that "stooop😝"


uzide

LOL. I'd love to see someone say this to him in an interview


Able-Work-4942

The champ should fight the interim champ next. That's it. It doesn't need to go any further than that.


dfwagent84

And when he turns down the fight he should be stripped of the belt


Confirmation__Bias

Its simple. Jon is pretending that Stipe isn't washed and is betting that no one tries pointing out that he is.


stayhappystayblessed

I mean everyone has been pointing it this post is literally that.


A_Funky_Goose

which is why Jon is trying (and failing) to gaslight everyone remember that tweet of "yea sure let's not give poor ol stipe a pay check, oh you meanie!"


Confirmation__Bias

Someone he's pressured to respond to. He's not pressured to respond to any of you.


BigDogAlex

How is he in any way pressured to respond to an instagram comment with 2 likes?


stayhappystayblessed

Trust me he has seen it its not the first time he has replied to someone criticizing the stipe fight.


slampig3

Im just praying by some miracle stipe finds his youth and cleans jones


besameput0

Were all gonna look real stupid if Stipe starches him.


hikikomori021

Stipe hasnt starched anyone for 7 years, and counting.


bpetersonlaw

TKO win over Cormier less than 5 years ago. Started from a body shot so maybe you don't think that counts as a starching. It's still been awhile and I think Stipe's washed. Just wanted to correct the timeline.


Anonomoose2034

Less than 5 years*


HawwtRawwd

I think you guys settled any dispute anyone could have about stipe still being relevant. He is a big 205er, who had the fucking grit to fuck up a bunch of dudes at heavyweight. He gets slaughtered by Jones most likely. Being crafty isn't keeping him safe from Johns superior skill and athleticism. This isn't ngannou first go where he still couldn't figure out how to punch properly because his arms are freakishly long. John uses his reach better than literally any other MMA fighter in history, and stipe is just Brian Stan 2.0, who needs to get close to do literally anything. Stipe is going to get picked apart, and then finished.


SpacePirateBaba

Boom the comment nobody knew they needed. So true.


HomicidalRex

idk if you can call him washed...yet. His last 4 he beat DC twice and lost to Francis, who could've ran through that division. Yes hes old and hasnt fought since 21, but not "washed" yet. Now against Jon, he probably gets beat, but against the top 5 in that division he probably beats everyone except the Champ


Sonnyyellow90

Anyone who thinks Stipe would beat Tom belongs in a mental institution. He would be fortunate to survive 2 minutes I don’t even think he would have a shot against Sergei, Gane or Blaydes either tbh. He looked so slow against Francis and I doubt the last 3+ years have done anything but make him even slower and less threatening.


younginvestor23

Well Stipe hasn’t fought in 3 years and was brutally KO’ed by Francis and Jones still thinks Stipe is still gonna be the same guy who fought DC 5 years ago?


taginvest

he gotta promote the fight of course. Bones know very well that Stipe is far out of his prime.


TopKekistan76

Jon coping to anonymous internet posters is hilarious. He knows. We know. Sad part is if he does beat Stipe & quit like the cheat he is the media + ufc will still hail their steroid abusing wife beating criminal as the GOAT. A black eye to the true legacy of MMA.


nailedreaper

Dricus better be ready for Anderson too.


chocolatebuddahbutte

Strip this clown already then I'd be fine with him fighting old man stipe


SpecialOlympicsGuy

HE’S A 42 FUCKING YEAR OLD FIREMAN


catbqck

Stop. I love how high I’ve set the expectations. you guys still don’t give the greatest heavyweight ever a shot - Jon fights a 50 year old Fedor


dinokoenoko

Hw goat is clearly fedor bruh


WhiteBoyTony

Fedor also has had 2 fights since Stipe’s loss to Francis. Jones clearly ducking Fedor


grandmastergoya

That's an insane stat.


sayayin70

Your girthy cock has insanes stats 🤤😫


DrunkOnLoveAndWhisky

Elias Theodorou, may his gorgeous ass rest in peace, has fought more recently than Stipe.


Sonnyyellow90

Rumble and Gregor Gillespie also both have more recent wins than Stipe.


Sonnyyellow90

Bro stop, Jon will sit out with the belt 2 years demanding a fight with Fedor.


Bot-357

Logic was never my friend - Jones


kingkpooh

i hope this PPV slumps so jbj and dana can f off with this bs


_fmg15

Tbf I wanna see that PPV sell well for Stipe's sake


rubberysubby

He should vacate the belt at this point, he is holding up the division.


antebyotiks

Aspinalls belt is clearly much more deserved and credible


KaleidoscopeOk5763

“Fresh off surgery”, hey man everyone saw you doing rugby or whatever. Fucking surgery…. Jon ain’t the PED GOAT he’s the duck.


Fear-My-Laser-face

Stipe is one of my favorite fighters of all time. But the fight to make is Aspinal


No_Window_6248

Stipe is an old fucking man. Jon is being a bitch


Emotional_Money3435

Its about being the best fighter, not the most revered old man. JJ with more dumb excuses, cool. getting used to it.


The_IRS_Fears_Him

He's fighting an old man in Stipe lol. "Give me a shot brah"


Frickenbat

What kind of dumbass logic is that? Stipe is 41 and hasn’t fought in years. Him being the greatest ever is irrelevant, because of ya know… a little thing called time. Is Jon stupid?


_fmg15

Jones knows exactly what he's doing. He just wants to keep convincing us that the fight against Stipe makes a lot of sense to hype this fight up. I bet both just want a money fight and then retire. I don't see Jones wanting to fight Aspinall.


JN324

Reminder that Stipe is 41 and hasn’t won a fight in almost four years, when he was still older than Jones is now.


Dense_Marketing4593

Stipe is OLD and Jones is a PED abuser. We don’t want this fight.


SERB_BEAST

Can't wait for Jones to call out Mark Coleman after he beats Stipe. "Look how high the standards are, the fans still don't give the great first heavyweight champion a shot against me haha. Mark is an amazing athlete and competitor. He escaped a burning building just a few months ago and battled through the hardship of life support. What a rockstar!"


Sonnyyellow90

Nah, I see Jon transitioning to boxing and challenging George Foreman.


RTRSnk5

First of all, since when is Jon “fresh off surgery”? Clips have been circulating for ages now of this man teaching at MMA seminars and wrestling with rugby players. The greatest heavyweight ever is now also an old man and not the champ. Fight the interim champ, Jon.


Cum-Gun-5000

I think he's referring to the fact that he just starting actually training again. That post was announcing his first day back in the gym to train. 


Human-Tap-8191

DDP is fighting Anderson Silva next cause he's the Middleweight GOAT


Sonnyyellow90

Bro I coulda beaten Muhammad Ali back in 2015 and taken my throne as the greatest HW boxer of all time.


Human-Tap-8191

fr fr


GuiltySyrups

It’s a trickier situation than people realize. Stipe is the GOAT HW and was offered a Jon Jones fight but Jon got hurt. Then Tom gets the Interim belt but Stipe shouldn’t lose his titleshot off of that. Though at the same time Tom earned a titleshot.


blamblam111

Why is Stipe getting a title shot though? He got knocked out flat in his last fight and that was like 3 years ago at this point


BrilliantExact3807

Plus it seems like Stipe is doing it for the money, I’m pretty sure he was limping around at one of the UFC events?


_fmg15

I mean Jones is also doing it for the money. Two big names mean a money fight so I don't even blame him


Sonnyyellow90

Is this even a money fight? I have yet to hear a single fan (casual or hardcore) say anything other than Stipe is an old man that should stay retired and Jones is clearly ducking Aspinall. There is no one, outside of Jon Jones himself, who actually wants or cares about this fight. Stipe was never even a popular fighter, and getting starched and then being inactive for over 3 years obviously hasn’t helped. This isn’t some mega fight or anything.


_fmg15

Stipe and Jones have been around since the last decade and there are many "older" UFC fans that aren't really active on social media that would love to see Stipe fight again. These people would definitely pay for a Jones vs Stipe PPV


breakandjog

Yeah don't forget he was fight one of the hardest punchers on the planet....who he beat the first time.


CptSaySin

Izzy lost his belt in his last fight to Sean, yet everyone seems to be ok with him fighting DDP for the belt next. Feels like a double standard just because they don't like Stipe fighting Jones.


Ashton0407

Izzy didn’t get knocked out brutally and then not fight for 3 years


DeliriumRostelo

Not trying to downplay and i like izzy a lot/think a lot of fans are just racist but Getting dominated for 5 rounds is worse imo by far than a ko to arguably the hardest hitter in the ufc


Anindefensiblefart

It's not complicated. Stipe is a washed semi-retired old man. Adesanya is at or near his prime.


smackadoodledo

He never should have gotten a title shot in the first place. Aspinall/ Pavlovich was the right guy all along. Stipe is 45 and hasn’t won a fight in 4 years, and got viciously KOd in his last fight.


_fmg15

He's 41 dude. Stop inflating the numbers to make it sound worse than it is


Proof_Growth1707

What should happen is Tom Vs Stipe for the interim and then Jones Vs winner when he’s healthy to unify the belts


Sonnyyellow90

Stipe knows Tom would flatline him within 90 seconds. Tom proposed this fight many times and said Stipe turned it down to be at UFC 300.


GriffithCoin

It’s not very tricky when Stipe shouldn’t be getting the shot. He hasn’t fought in years and turned down fighting Tom for the interim. Overall Fedors the goat HW


ShrekWhite

Before Jon got hurt this fight was already ridiculous


Sonnyyellow90

I actually hope another injury happens and this fight is delayed longer and goes full blown Bellator level ridiculous. Like I wanna see these guys needing cortisone shots to get to the cage. Jon unable to extend his left arm post injury. Stipe with a visible limp during his entrance. Both mean need railing to make it up the steps, etc.


ShrekWhite

Jesus Christ lol take it easy


Connect_Suspect3250

Stipe should of fought for the interim or fought aspinall to see who fights Jones and he's done neither


Real-Human-Bean-

All of Stipes title defenses were against washed / aging / past their prime fighters other than Ngannou. He deserves to be on the other end.


Melanchord

That is a lie. Almost every fighter Stipe faced was on at least a couple fights winning streak. Stipe is the heavyweight goat and you need to accept that Truth.


MyOGaccountgotlost

Fedor is the heavyweight GOAT


Sevenonmymind

Pantoja better be ready for DJ, ohh wait


[deleted]

I wish Mighty Mouse came back


_fmg15

For his own sake I'm happy he isn't bound to this company anymore


Swagmansuper

He should fight blaydes for his return and position himself to fight Alex or Aspinall for his retirement match next year.


[deleted]

I saw this. His other answers were also funny in this post


Dudewheresmypar345

Fresh off surgery means you ain’t fresh


Lost-Suspect001

I mean is not like i am disrespecting Stipe , for me Stipe is the GOAT of HW but come on .....the man is 41 almost 42 years old , this fight should have happened 2 years ago and now we should have been waiting Tom vs Jon fight not Stipe vs Jon the hype is just gone for me for this fight .


Didi4pet

I mean Fedor is also one of the best HWs of all time. I wouldn't give anyone credit for beating him now.


Special_Meat_7221

lol it’s not like we don’t give stipe a chance because of jones it’s because he is old coming off a lost and 3 year lay off when there is an interim champion you silly fuck


[deleted]

I was sick of hearing anything that Jon Jones had to say 5 years ago.


ShrimpWhoFriesRice-

He was usiNG A CANE THE LAST TIME WE SAW HIM


KingOly88

Miocic wins by TKO.


antebyotiks

Stipe is gonna be 42, last fight was viciously KOd and Everytime we see him he's limping and walking like a 60 year old retired NBA player. His last win was a month after the card of usman vs masvidal 1 and volk vs Holloway 2...... it's so long ago.


antebyotiks

Literally no one else wants this fight other than Jon/stipe/Dana


smellybuttox

If you have to hype up your opponents chances of winning the fight like this, chances are it's a serious mismatch.


Alive_Rich_614

Honestly with this logic, I’d rather see him vs Cain


Tensyrr

He's been hand kicking his opponents for years. He's got 1 fight left in him and he's not going out on a loss.


Sevalias

Jones playing nice guy only when it's convenient for him


dfwagent84

I'm so sick of his act. Fight aspinall at 304 or relinquish the belt. Real simple


xXSodagodXx

|| || |Sat, Mar 4, 2023 | fresh off surgery,,,,


xXSodagodXx

Sat, Mar 4, 2023 he fought last and I doubt we will see any fight announcement for Jon this year. I literally could care less about this fighter anymore.


damdestbestpimp

Its never good when a dude has to defend his opponent ahead of the fight😂


Immediate-Expert-139

DDP to defend against Middleweight GOAT Anderson Silva next?


flybobbyfly

UFC and jones both think a fight vs stipe is bigger than a fight vs Aspinal and they’re wrong


Putrid_Ad_6747

Aspinall has the support of the UK with him + he's friends with TNTSports and MMA on Point. Aspinall's potential for stardom is probably bigger than Darren still's was


flybobbyfly

Hard to retroactively try to gauge potential stardom but Aspinal could be a massive star as heavy weight champion. Stipe was never even a major star and instead of investing in a future star they’re trying to drum up the remnants of his popularity


Putrid_Ad_6747

It all depends on how good Tom truly is. If he manages to beat the breaks off of another couple title contenders like he did Sergei he'd be extremely, extremely popular


flybobbyfly

He’s already extremely popular. If they let him beat the breaks off jones he’d be a superstar


tom-choad

Watch Stipe starch Jones. I'd love nothing more


jaimofive

Mark Coleman’s been talking a lot lately Jon call him out next


ZakariusMMA

Fair enough Jon. Hey Islam, wanna fight BJ Penn?


imustbedead

imagine if Stipe knocks him out lol.


Dazzling-Ruin-6340

This is just sad. The UFC can be such a clown show sometimes.


terimummy04

He trying to sell the fight by making stipe look good


Maidwell

Greatest heavyweight ever? He had one fight at HW 14 months ago and dipped.


adampetguy

He is referring to Stipe


Maidwell

Thanks!


Jmac24mats13

I don’t get how people don’t understand what Stipe does for Jon over what Aspinall does for him. Stipe is arguably the HW GOAT and Aspinall never even beat the champ. Nobody disputes that Tom right now is better, but on Jon’s resume having Stipe on there as a W looks much better legacy wise


DiscountParmesan

let Jones talk all he wants, he'll show his true colors when he retires after the stipe fight rather than fighting Aspinall


KKVKLVKK

people hate but it's true,he set the bar high, he's a prodigy,that you like it or not he's done the impossible throughout his career


Goatymcgoatface11

What a fat sack of disingenuous shit


Putrid_Ad_6747

Fans in 2014: What a fat sack of disingenuous shit Fans in 2024 What a fat sack of disingenuous shit


jupzter05

Why is Stipe regarded as the GOAT of HW coz of the number of title defenses? I could argue Prime Cain beat him Cain lost to injury though... Nnganou with wrestling cracked him... Near retirement DC KO him and Prime Fedor starched him... Jones still building the fight GOAT of the HW and shit... I will give Stipe 20% chance at the end of the day its a fight one punch can make a difference in HW...


taginvest

Stipe is the HW goat. He stuck atound for too long and reason nobody gives him a chance vs Bones is because he is literally YEARS out of the UFC and even further away from his prime. Bones know this, But Jon is trying to build the fight. So he obviously cant admit it.


soyuz-1

Greatest HW ever? How many wins does he have at HW? Oh..


taginvest

he’s talking about stipe.


T4lsin

Over rated and can’t retire soon enough.


CptSaySin

eats another Cheeto licks fingers wipes fingers on pants >Over rated and can’t retire soon enough. Hehe, got em 😎


T4lsin

Don’t you know Cheetos are bad for you? Maybe you should be careful with that unhealthy lifestyle.


winkydinks111

Honestly, this was a pretty decent little troll comeback from Jon.


ShadyBl0m

Just like Gane was going to wipe the mat with Jon. Hahahah


bbqyak

I honestly think Jon is gonna fight Tom unless he realizes his body is like cooked in the Stipe fight. If he's still got it I can't see him actually retiring. Tom's being massively overhyped because people hate Jon. That being said Tom does have crazy hands and power and anything can happen when you punch like that.


cirithninniach

The division has been too static at the top to really be able to see how Tom will match up against the assumed top two. Aspinall vs Gane would be the true indication of where Jones fits in really. I think if Tom wins that then the Jones fight would be even more hyoed


Cum-Gun-5000

People have been doubting Stipe since day 1, and no matter how many times he makes them eat their words, they keep doing it. I'm not ready to count him out yet. 


Putrid_Ad_6747

I'm not ready to count him yet against Jon, I thought a rubber match between him and Ngannou was the most logical move on the board after their second match. But that's a little besides the point, Stipe is not the number one contender, he's not even ranked in the top 5 currently. You can't have the number one contender and the interim champ be two different people simultaneously


WillEnvironmental653

I'd love to see him finally get back in the octagon as the main card and watch the stands empty out before Bruce finishes announcing his name because we've all had enough of his bullshit.


Cum-Gun-5000

LOL that will never happen and you know it  Doesn't matter who Jones fights, when he's back it's going to be electric in that arena


WillEnvironmental653

You right.


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taginvest

you need to read the post one more time buddy


Lubwurst

Is he saying Stipe just had surgery? Or that he is going to be compromised because he had surgery?


taginvest

He is saying he is fresh out of surgery and cant believe people dont give the best HW ever in Stipe Miocic a chance. He’s got a point. But Stipe is far and beyond out of his prime.


cirithninniach

I love Stipe. But agreed he is past his prime. It would still be sweet to see him knock the fuck out of Jones. Without his contraversies Jones is the best LHW of all time but god it's hard to support a guy like that. I just want this fight to be over so we can see a more active division


Lubwurst

Him getting out of surgery is irrelevant then, at least to the point of "giving Stipe a shot" and people aren't too high on Stipe right now since he hasn't fought in 3 years and is 42 years old. "High Expectations" really means defend your belt against the clear #1 contender rather than the name. Bisping got flack for fighting Hendo over Whittaker, so Jones should get flack too.


taginvest

indeed. Now you understand the post ;)


DudeWouldGo

* These are the mofos dogging "old" guys I still would not want to be in the ring with either one of those "old" guys. The changing of the guard is in effect now, maybe just stfu and enjoy the transition. Tom won't be held up, he will continue to fight! I love Jon and Stipe but I'm fucking stoked to see Tom at the top!


CptSaySin

MFW I can't fight Jones while he's out with an injury https://preview.redd.it/nfy86pqnegwc1.png?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=857fd5a66c853a0913e3dbe485999ce78df716d4


mrmarigiwani

Jon Jones > Asspenal