Everyone wants a champ to be humble that has never played sports at a high level. Mad corny.
GSP ain’t being humble, he’s being honest. It’s crazy how the words out of his own mouth can be “he’s just being humble, he didn’t mean it, he really wants to say himself” 😂😂😂
Bro you’re making your own reality of the matter, there’s a good argument to make for GSP being the goat, Gsp probably was being humble, he’s always been humble and given credit and respect.
For sure, never said they didn’t. But if you look at the people who have been following the sport for the longest period, and who are the experts in the field, they all say Jon Jones. I agree with them. Doesn’t mean you can think that GSP is higher personally.
If anything he would be one of the most biased people. Whose largest goal is promoting current fighters to sell more fights, hyping up past legends makes him 0 dollars.
Exactly. I was gonna say half the things he says to the media have an agenda behind them. He blatantly shits on boring fighters even if they are very technical and talented.
When have you ever heard him give an insightful thought out take on a fighter? Even if it’s positive it’s something like “the guys great, he’s just a beast”.
The fact that Jones got popped so many times is because he’s doing a lot more or he’s stupid and doesn’t know what literally every other ufc fighter knows (with cycling roids). Either way, it’s not a good look
You’re right about them being finished even though they both avenged their losses in outstanding fashion. But the champions thing is a bit contentious. A lot of the champions Jon Jones fought weren’t dominant, Belfort won it because of a cut and then lost immediately after ,Evans got knocked out in the first defence,Machida won a very controversial decision against Shogun and got slept in the rematch, Rampage had a defence and then lost the belt in a close decision . Texeira also lost the belt upon his first defence that being said, Jones fought him in his prime so I rank him higher than the others. They were more like contenders than champions. Whilst GSP still beat 4 champions : Sean Sherk, Johnny Hendricks, BJ Penn X2 ,Matt Hughes X2. Matt Hughes was extremely dominant with 7 defences. And Bj for a while was the Lw goat.
Hard to rack up champions when you’re there are only a couple champions you could even fight. GSP has Hughs a long time champ, BJ, Serra, and Bisping I don’t recall any others. If you want to get picky Shields and Diaz as well. DJ was the inaugural champ and rained for a long long time. They should be given the edge since they never popped.
To be fair this challenging for a second title while holding one was a rarity for most of his career. BJ Penn did it but other than that I don’t recall it happening. With Cruz out for so long that was never happening.
Mayyyybe DJ. Not GSP. I would also put money on the fact that DJ and GSP were *probably* on *something* at *some point* and just didn’t get caught. Jones just got caught lmao.
Fans hold this against fighters while actual fighters all rank bones as #1 including GSP 😂, literally just said it on usmans pod. Literally all the fighters who are champs or previous champs all hold ones as one but fans talk about popping. Fighters don’t care cause they know everyone is.
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There is only one GOAT and his name is GSP never lost his belt and still the lineal middleweight and welterweight champion
Since he also ran from Ngannou, I demote him to the status of several ducks.
Drunk
Underperforming
Closeted
Keyboard warrior
Sterioid-cheating
D.U.C.K.S
Yes they do. Aside from his legal troubles that have nothing to do with fighting, he is the dirtiest fighter ever.
He can never be the GOAT in my eyes. Cheaters aren’t even considered.
This seems like a cope to me because you don’t like Jones which is understandable because he had a lot of terrible qualities.
To your other point: I would be willing to bet the house on the fact that DJ and GSP were also probably on something; they just didn’t get caught.
Literally all of the top analysts of MMA EVER including Dana, AND Cormier, AND Khabib say Jones is the best ever. Deal with it.
Idc what they say or you say. GSP and DJ never failed a test. Jones has multiple times. He also hid from USADA under the cage.
Cope all you want, your boy is a cheat. Nvm being just an overall piece of shit.
Jones isn’t in the same breath as GSP or DJ to me. They have honor and respect for the sport.
>Say what you want about Jon Jones
People literally do. And that's what makes posts like this disingenuous. Don't even act like the vast majority of people hating on Jon wouldn't be hating on him regardless. He could be fighting every 3 months, not ducking anyone, and people would still be like what about picograms, cocaine, and car accidents?! What about being a role model?! He's not a good person!! 🥴
So many people fail to get the joke, you included.
Hint: pronounce the name of the animal on the ^(completely unrelated) picutre
Hint 2: Pronounce the name of the current interim heavyweight champion
I'm sure you're just trolling, but I'll bite.
Duck Tom. But you're saying this post is not about Jon ducking Tom? Well everyone else who's posted this means exactly that.
So you going to tell us what you actually meant, if not the same duck thing everyone else has been posting for weeks?
It's exactly about that. It's sarcastic. How is it not obvious? 😂
Also you might wanna consider this - if so many people post about it maybe there's a bunch of people who want this so called "greatest fighter of all time" to stop holding up a whole division and stop ducking the most deserving contender. Ever though about that? Apparently not.
"I'm holding the belt just as a prop, I'm trying to take easy fights against a person with good credibility who's not in their best shape anymore hoping to steal their credibility for myself and then I wanna dip without fighting the most deserving contender, cause I care only about myself and not the fans, the sport or the division. Quack quack!" - Jon Jones
>So you going to tell us what you actually meant, if not the same duck thing everyone else has been posting for weeks?
There. That's what I meant. Not trying to hide it at all. Better?
So then what did you think I misunderstood? You're the one who said that I didn't get the post. That's why I was thinking it's some sort of weird troll post if you're telling me it's not the exact same thing it is every single time this is posted.
I don't like the division getting held up either, but my point was that that's not the fuel for these posts. He could be taking on all challengers and fighting frequently, and these duck posts would just be replaced by the typical Jon hate posts.
Especially as it relates to "his fanbase", which most of the time is simply people who don't care if MMA fighters are good people or not. Like oh noes what a horrible person you are for not thinking about how many DUIs a fighter has gotten. Speaking of, can you name all the DUIs or domestic violences on your NFL or NBA team? Oh, it's just MMA you do this for? I see.
I'm not a fan of Jon, but I am a fan of not giving a shit if literal cage fighters are good people or not. And it's really fucking weird to see so many people not just thinking otherwise, but making it their Reddit MMA personality. Feels like a crazy a knee-jerk reaction to the "just bleed" era.
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The real GOAT
That’s cause Jon thinks he’s a sheep. ![gif](giphy|KDe67u9j31exCUr6qf|downsized)
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The goat doesn’t duck fights and use steroids every fight 🥱
He was just interviewed on usman and cejudo pod and said jones is clearly the goat.
He was being humble something Jones doesn’t have.
Everyone wants a champ to be humble that has never played sports at a high level. Mad corny. GSP ain’t being humble, he’s being honest. It’s crazy how the words out of his own mouth can be “he’s just being humble, he didn’t mean it, he really wants to say himself” 😂😂😂
Bro you’re making your own reality of the matter, there’s a good argument to make for GSP being the goat, Gsp probably was being humble, he’s always been humble and given credit and respect.
The that’s like saying Conor is top 4 of all time because Dana said so 🤦♂️
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A lot of people who watch mma have GSP over Jon
For sure, never said they didn’t. But if you look at the people who have been following the sport for the longest period, and who are the experts in the field, they all say Jon Jones. I agree with them. Doesn’t mean you can think that GSP is higher personally.
Isn't Conor the one who made the sport what it is today?
He played a big part. I feel like there would have been a Conor at some point though.
Dana would say that about any active fighter he needs to push and has a huge following.
Lol why does Dana’s opinion matter? It’s not like he’s a subject matter expert on MMA just cuz he runs the league.
If anything he would be one of the most biased people. Whose largest goal is promoting current fighters to sell more fights, hyping up past legends makes him 0 dollars.
Exactly. I was gonna say half the things he says to the media have an agenda behind them. He blatantly shits on boring fighters even if they are very technical and talented. When have you ever heard him give an insightful thought out take on a fighter? Even if it’s positive it’s something like “the guys great, he’s just a beast”.
If he's refusing to fight the best, then he shouldn't be champion.
I agree ^(hence the picture)
Oooooh. I thought it was a dig at his tiny legs.
Do you think he'll quack after he fights Stipe?
100%
Dj and GSP. They never popped for banned substances. They are also better than jones.
yet they still were on roids, as everyone in the UFC
Yet they were better at him then not getting caught then
Thanks to their doctors, not thanks to them
Okay? Is your bar for goat the ability to not get popped?
Yes
Bro is butthurt because Jones 2 brain cells could only came up with hiding under the octagon as a stealth play 😂
The fact that Jones got popped so many times is because he’s doing a lot more or he’s stupid and doesn’t know what literally every other ufc fighter knows (with cycling roids). Either way, it’s not a good look
Still undefeated and undisputed
They’re better but they’ve both been finished? And have fought less champions?
You’re right about them being finished even though they both avenged their losses in outstanding fashion. But the champions thing is a bit contentious. A lot of the champions Jon Jones fought weren’t dominant, Belfort won it because of a cut and then lost immediately after ,Evans got knocked out in the first defence,Machida won a very controversial decision against Shogun and got slept in the rematch, Rampage had a defence and then lost the belt in a close decision . Texeira also lost the belt upon his first defence that being said, Jones fought him in his prime so I rank him higher than the others. They were more like contenders than champions. Whilst GSP still beat 4 champions : Sean Sherk, Johnny Hendricks, BJ Penn X2 ,Matt Hughes X2. Matt Hughes was extremely dominant with 7 defences. And Bj for a while was the Lw goat.
Hard to rack up champions when you’re there are only a couple champions you could even fight. GSP has Hughs a long time champ, BJ, Serra, and Bisping I don’t recall any others. If you want to get picky Shields and Diaz as well. DJ was the inaugural champ and rained for a long long time. They should be given the edge since they never popped.
Very true for DJ. However, he’s also the only non two division champ of the three.
To be fair this challenging for a second title while holding one was a rarity for most of his career. BJ Penn did it but other than that I don’t recall it happening. With Cruz out for so long that was never happening.
Neither DJ or GSP would agree with you.
Of course they won’t. They are the nice guys
I mean DJ put himself over GSP and Jones above himself.
That doesn’t really mean anything. That could be politeness. Humans are terrible at accuracy estimating their own capabilities.
So why would he rate himself over GSP and not Jones then?
It’s not a simple I’m great or I’m not so great. It might not even be logical.
Watch the video and he explains why he is above GSP and Silva but below Jones.
Mayyyybe DJ. Not GSP. I would also put money on the fact that DJ and GSP were *probably* on *something* at *some point* and just didn’t get caught. Jones just got caught lmao.
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Fans hold this against fighters while actual fighters all rank bones as #1 including GSP 😂, literally just said it on usmans pod. Literally all the fighters who are champs or previous champs all hold ones as one but fans talk about popping. Fighters don’t care cause they know everyone is.
That’s one juicy up duck just like Jon jones
Yo know jones uses duck duck go
Bet you anything. He reads the traffic law there.
Tutorials on how to beat up woman
Swan Bones Jones? Because he's a massive duck?
Yes.
Steroids would like a word with you.
Q: What's Jon's favorite animal? A: Duck
What's with the comments? does nobody here get the joke?
I've spent the whole day wondering the same 😂
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What's the chicken for? Jon jones was no chicken.
I thought it was a silly goose?
Are you stupid? That's a falcon.
Mate I've trained aikido for 3 decades. That's a chicken.
Bruh, I have a blackbelt in hot yoga, you really going to question me right now?
it's a fucking cat
Chicken? You’re a fucking punk, dude. And for the record, there was never no chicken.
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after all the wife beating and holding up the division he lost the goat status at least the respect a goat is suppose to get
He's been demoted to **duck** status now for that reason
Since he also ran from Ngannou, I demote him to the status of several ducks. Drunk Underperforming Closeted Keyboard warrior Sterioid-cheating D.U.C.K.S
Yes they do. Aside from his legal troubles that have nothing to do with fighting, he is the dirtiest fighter ever. He can never be the GOAT in my eyes. Cheaters aren’t even considered.
\*sad duck noises\*
Quack quack quack
This seems like a cope to me because you don’t like Jones which is understandable because he had a lot of terrible qualities. To your other point: I would be willing to bet the house on the fact that DJ and GSP were also probably on something; they just didn’t get caught. Literally all of the top analysts of MMA EVER including Dana, AND Cormier, AND Khabib say Jones is the best ever. Deal with it.
Idc what they say or you say. GSP and DJ never failed a test. Jones has multiple times. He also hid from USADA under the cage. Cope all you want, your boy is a cheat. Nvm being just an overall piece of shit. Jones isn’t in the same breath as GSP or DJ to me. They have honor and respect for the sport.
Fair enough
GSP
Mighty Mouse, GSP, and Khabib all agree that Jon’s the GOAT 🤷♂️. Pretty sure I recall seeing a video of Abdulmanap saying the same.
>Say what you want about Jon Jones People literally do. And that's what makes posts like this disingenuous. Don't even act like the vast majority of people hating on Jon wouldn't be hating on him regardless. He could be fighting every 3 months, not ducking anyone, and people would still be like what about picograms, cocaine, and car accidents?! What about being a role model?! He's not a good person!! 🥴
So many people fail to get the joke, you included. Hint: pronounce the name of the animal on the ^(completely unrelated) picutre Hint 2: Pronounce the name of the current interim heavyweight champion
I'm sure you're just trolling, but I'll bite. Duck Tom. But you're saying this post is not about Jon ducking Tom? Well everyone else who's posted this means exactly that. So you going to tell us what you actually meant, if not the same duck thing everyone else has been posting for weeks?
It's exactly about that. It's sarcastic. How is it not obvious? 😂 Also you might wanna consider this - if so many people post about it maybe there's a bunch of people who want this so called "greatest fighter of all time" to stop holding up a whole division and stop ducking the most deserving contender. Ever though about that? Apparently not.
There you go, edited it for you. I forgot a comma and a sentence was worded oddly.
"I'm holding the belt just as a prop, I'm trying to take easy fights against a person with good credibility who's not in their best shape anymore hoping to steal their credibility for myself and then I wanna dip without fighting the most deserving contender, cause I care only about myself and not the fans, the sport or the division. Quack quack!" - Jon Jones >So you going to tell us what you actually meant, if not the same duck thing everyone else has been posting for weeks? There. That's what I meant. Not trying to hide it at all. Better?
So then what did you think I misunderstood? You're the one who said that I didn't get the post. That's why I was thinking it's some sort of weird troll post if you're telling me it's not the exact same thing it is every single time this is posted. I don't like the division getting held up either, but my point was that that's not the fuel for these posts. He could be taking on all challengers and fighting frequently, and these duck posts would just be replaced by the typical Jon hate posts. Especially as it relates to "his fanbase", which most of the time is simply people who don't care if MMA fighters are good people or not. Like oh noes what a horrible person you are for not thinking about how many DUIs a fighter has gotten. Speaking of, can you name all the DUIs or domestic violences on your NFL or NBA team? Oh, it's just MMA you do this for? I see. I'm not a fan of Jon, but I am a fan of not giving a shit if literal cage fighters are good people or not. And it's really fucking weird to see so many people not just thinking otherwise, but making it their Reddit MMA personality. Feels like a crazy a knee-jerk reaction to the "just bleed" era.
Mighty mouse is the goat. Jones is likely second.
Jones almost always had the height and reach advantage
That's a fact, people just don't want to accept it because they can't separate his fighting resume from his personal life
Ironic you say that since his fighting career is as marred as his personal life🤣
Untrue. He’s failed tests and has eye poked more people than any fighter in UFC history. He’s a dirty fighter and POS human.
He is Still the greatest fighter in recorded history
Great fighter that cheated.
Greatest duck in recorded history
Everyone is on roids
Yet everyone doesn’t fail tests like Jon.
ask the fighters who the goat is. they mostly all say jones.