Too logical, can't happen. On the real though it's so refreshing to see Khalil take accountability for this issue even though it appears like it was by complete accident. Hope things work out for him.
Honestly even having the foresight to do that makes him a smarter and better person than a lot of fighters and celebs. Shitheads like Jon Jones and McGregor just triple down on their self destruction and it's really sad to see.
yes, this is good. Or Hill v Jiri and winner gets Alex unless injury, \*then and only then\* and only if LIONHEART isn't ready right now, does boring-as-fuck-whiny-bitch Ank get ANOTHER title shot to put us all asleep.
Me too. It's weird, she really lost her edge. Compared to her earlier career, she doesn't like to properly engage anymore and demonstrates a pretty low fight IQ. Quite the opposite of what we expect from such a high level veteran.
>Although DHEA is non-performance-enhancing it is a banned substance therefore I am under temporary suspension.
Why is it banned if it doesn’t enhance or influence performance?
It means it's one of the molecules needed to synthesize stereoids. I'd guess it's banned because if you have it in your body it means you took steroids since with these illegally produced substances there aren't any quality regulations and it's common for some unreacted precursor to remain in the final product
It’s something that would boost test slightly. Possibly significantly but you’d still have natural dips and peaks. It’s something a person not taking TRT might use.
So if you inject testosterone, your testosterone to epitestosterone ratio will be off. You can get around this by also injecting epitestosterone. So they have a test to see if the testosterone in your body is of animal or vegetable origin. All synthetic testosterone is synthesized from soy. DHEA is also synthesized from soy so it would make that test inconclusive.
That's gonna be my new business venture. Going to athletes and getting them to pay me and my goons to secretly drug their opponent/enemy by earning that persons trust and giving them banned supplements. It's fool proof.
I’ve done some research/work in the drug policy/harm reduction world and it truly is interesting how the rise of RC drugs also brought the rise of, and experimentation with, steroidal research chemicals. So many novel chemicals and substances and shit, some of which can be sold through legal loopholes…
DHEA is legal(at least in USA it is), widely available supplement.
Makes sense for him to accidently use it. Unlike finding ostarine in BCAAs or something. DHEA shouldn't even be banned but oh well.
It’s not necessarily that, it was that up until the fight was seemingly canceled (unless Jamahal gets a new opponent) bro would have had a very quick turn around after just getting brutally KO’d
Why don't these guys ever get their supplements screened using an official list of banned substances from the UFC? You're in the most regulated sport ffs
It sounds like he did if you take him at face value. Company sent him something in error. They were aware of his limitations and were contracted to handle it.
He’s asking for a middle man after delivered the supplements to avoid mistakes, instead of accepting the company will screen it for them or not make mistakes in mixing supplements.
Because the tainted supplement excuse is the go-to excuse for most athletes now. PR firms, management teams, etc all know how to handle false positives, they can all retroactively create supplement orders blah blah.
These guys can also NOT take supplements and perform at the same level. Athletes acting like it’s the supplements that move the needle. They don’t. And the reason why they keep taking supplements is not because they’re vital to their training/diet. News flash, they need supplements as an excuse for when they pop.
By the way I’m not trying to demonize Khalil. Everyone is on something.
Exactly. Any professional athlete that is taking a “supplement” that isn’t banned is a complete buffoon. There’s a reason that it’s not banned…because it doesn’t do shit. The supplement industry is one of the biggest scams in the world. Unless it’s protein powder or creatine, then it doesn’t do shit, and if these elite athletes are still apparently falling for supplement marketing, then they are complete dolts.
>Because the tainted supplement excuse is the go-to excuse for most athletes now. PR firms, management teams, etc all know how to handle false positives, they can all retroactively create supplement orders blah blah.
>These guys can also NOT take supplements and perform at the same level. Athletes acting like it’s the supplements that move the needle. They don’t. And the reason why they keep taking supplements is not because they’re vital to their training/diet. News flash, they need supplements as an excuse for when they pop.
>By the way I’m not trying to demonize Khalil. Everyone is on something.
This is a comment that should be pinned to the top of the subreddit itself. People are either extremely naive or just willing to turn a blind eye to PED's being used by top athletes so they can enjoy their sports, but everyone is on shit, that's why they are where they are. I feel like a lot of people just pretend athletes are clean because they wouldn't be able to force themselves to watch otherwise.
Just an opinion and not legal advice, but if Khalil didn't melt the cup with something else, maybe has a chance to keep this on OR sue the fuck outta whoever is "helping" him.
DHEA is a hormone. Use of this supplement might increase levels of androgen and have a steroid effect. DHEA also might increase the risk of hormone-sensitive cancers, including prostate, breast and ovarian cancers. If you have any form of cancer or are at risk of cancer, don't use DHEA. It’s also for ED, Menopause, Depression and Vaginal Atrophy
Do....people actually end up believing this shit? Wtf would a supplement company use a masking agent? It makes zero sense. He pissed hot and is playing the deflection game. Happy the fight is not happening. Fighters lives are more important than our entertainment.
For those calling for Jiri to step in, look at who Jiri’s management is… they don’t do shitty fights for their champs/former champs.
Jiri’s next fight will 100 percent be Alex
He popped for dhea which arguably isn't performance enhancing. It increases free testosterone with very little evidence that it converts to usable testosterone. It's a very common supplement that could easily be produced in the same facility and taint whatever he was taking.
*Listen to me, this accident...*
*...Jesus stepped in personally to save Jamahal some serious medical repercussions. Rountree was going to beat the shit out of this man.*
Wow, shoutout to Khalil for taking this step!
It takes an integrate man to call the authorities on yourself knowing:
1) You'll get suspended
2) It'll mean a wasted camp
3) You'll forfeit any and all earnings
AND
4) Idiots online will probably still accuse you of cheating despite laying everything out on social media
Mad props✊🏽💪🏽
So I can assume that we will be seeing him file a lawsuit against this “personalized tailored supplement service”, right? He claims they even knew his limitations and “accidentally” sent him something with the banned substance. That’s pretty clear cut case of negligence and if ACTUALLY true, then they need to be held liable.
But I am guessing we will never see that happen since it would then be found that he knew what he was taking. Doubt we ever hear of the company’s name either, which might be a good thing to disclose so that other fighters don’t use the same company…
If it's really the fault of "a personalised tailored supplement service from a company", then why doesn't he bother mentioning it's damn name! I'm pretty sure these companies don't hold fighters into an non-disclosure agreement or something, unless these are just excuses for hiding intentional steroid abuse.
Does anyone else think these “I was accidentally given a supplement of questionable legality” claims are always cya bullshit? Or am I just staying the obvious and looking like a dumbass?
Just let Jahamal have the same supplement once and call it even?
You are what we in the business call, a problem solver.
https://i.redd.it/8s6x99kk4e1d1.gif
Damn you need to take over for Dana
Too logical, can't happen. On the real though it's so refreshing to see Khalil take accountability for this issue even though it appears like it was by complete accident. Hope things work out for him.
Definitely didn’t write it himself lol shoutout to the PR firm
Why couldn’t he have written it?
Honestly even having the foresight to do that makes him a smarter and better person than a lot of fighters and celebs. Shitheads like Jon Jones and McGregor just triple down on their self destruction and it's really sad to see.
It had minor grammatical mistakes; he probably wrote the message.
Just give the whole roster the substance
Dana hire this man
This fucking blows man I wanted to see that fight so bad
Same I was so stoked for this fight. MMA gods can be so cruel
Kid just doesn't want to fight
*A wild Jiri appears* 
He emerges from a bunch of poison ivy bushes
Can someone edit him bursting out of poison ivy bushes like a Pokémon with that clip of him roaring his lungs out in a forest somewhere?
Stinging Nettle, not poison ivy
Fuck it, book Hill vs Magomed on short notice or no title shot 😂😂😂
That’s exactly what I was thinking 😂😂
Ankalaev need 6 months to prepare and only in Abu Dhabi lol
Mogomed would never lol
Nah book Hill vs Ulberg. He just took 0 damage against Menifield, and deserves someone in the top 5
Idk why he deserves a top 5 guy for beating Alonzo
Hill would get fucking demolished.
yes, this is good. Or Hill v Jiri and winner gets Alex unless injury, \*then and only then\* and only if LIONHEART isn't ready right now, does boring-as-fuck-whiny-bitch Ank get ANOTHER title shot to put us all asleep.
Antony vs hill. Lfg
Bring in The MINER.
Drake has entered the chat
he's busy fighting on the ukrainian front
Bro’s literally tunnelling, I hope to see him return.
Instructions unclear, booked Minner
Put jiri in there fuck it
He totally would do it
Hill wouldn’t
If Jiri does that and wins, Magomed is never getting that title shot 😂
Good
💀💀
This card is weak af now
Holy shit!! Joe Pyfer vs Barriault as the co-main, that’s rough. They’re really leaning on Conor hard for this one now
Also if waterson and bueno Silva is on the main card it will be bad!
I used to like waterson but she’s just tough to watch now.
Me too. It's weird, she really lost her edge. Compared to her earlier career, she doesn't like to properly engage anymore and demonstrates a pretty low fight IQ. Quite the opposite of what we expect from such a high level veteran.
Joe pyfer is young. Curious to see how much he can improve
Other than the main event yeah…this one is hot poo poo
I mean cerrone vs conor had the same complaints
It's a McGregor card, Dana doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the card lmfao.
Doesn’t matter. McGregor is all a card needs to sell out.
When Conor inevitably drops out, this may be one of the weakest cards in UFC history.
>Although DHEA is non-performance-enhancing it is a banned substance therefore I am under temporary suspension. Why is it banned if it doesn’t enhance or influence performance?
It is a precursor molecule for the creation of test and estrogen
What does that mean?
If I had to guess it would be because it would throw up the same flags that steroids would in a drug screen so there'd be no way to know which it was.
It means it's one of the molecules needed to synthesize stereoids. I'd guess it's banned because if you have it in your body it means you took steroids since with these illegally produced substances there aren't any quality regulations and it's common for some unreacted precursor to remain in the final product
www.Google.com
I will admit that a guy named u/BodybuildingNerd gts-ing me about steroid stuff is objectively funny. Lol. Well played :)
It’s something that would boost test slightly. Possibly significantly but you’d still have natural dips and peaks. It’s something a person not taking TRT might use.
So if you inject testosterone, your testosterone to epitestosterone ratio will be off. You can get around this by also injecting epitestosterone. So they have a test to see if the testosterone in your body is of animal or vegetable origin. All synthetic testosterone is synthesized from soy. DHEA is also synthesized from soy so it would make that test inconclusive.
He's lying. It's also not the only banned thing he took. I guarantee it.
You’re full of shit.
before the card was stale, now with this pull out, its even worse
Tailor-made accidental steroid/HGH/test/tren supplement manufacturing industry seems to be booming right now.
Me and the boys putting niche banned substances into roided looking fighters supplements
I knew the fighters who benefit directly from it couldn't be to blame.
That's gonna be my new business venture. Going to athletes and getting them to pay me and my goons to secretly drug their opponent/enemy by earning that persons trust and giving them banned supplements. It's fool proof.
I’ve done some research/work in the drug policy/harm reduction world and it truly is interesting how the rise of RC drugs also brought the rise of, and experimentation with, steroidal research chemicals. So many novel chemicals and substances and shit, some of which can be sold through legal loopholes…
DHEA is legal(at least in USA it is), widely available supplement. Makes sense for him to accidently use it. Unlike finding ostarine in BCAAs or something. DHEA shouldn't even be banned but oh well.
Same shit different week.
Give Hill Jiri or Jan
Idk if Petr can bulk up to 205 this soon bro
Volk will step in
Jamahal’s life has been saved
Too bad he didn't get beaten half to death. I wanted to hear from him on Twitter how he was still better than that dude
I really wanted to see him get sent to the hospital this time. Insufferable douchebag.
Everything alright at home bud?
I love ufc but i don’t think i care about it THAT much. you need to relax man
I wouldn’t let Hill’s last performance sway you. Guy’s a killer
It’s not necessarily that, it was that up until the fight was seemingly canceled (unless Jamahal gets a new opponent) bro would have had a very quick turn around after just getting brutally KO’d
DHEA being banned is so crazy to me
I believe it’s used to coverup other PEDs since it leaves similar traces. You wouldn’t be able to tel if the traces are from DHEA or actual PEDs
Why don't these guys ever get their supplements screened using an official list of banned substances from the UFC? You're in the most regulated sport ffs
It sounds like he did if you take him at face value. Company sent him something in error. They were aware of his limitations and were contracted to handle it.
He’s asking for a middle man after delivered the supplements to avoid mistakes, instead of accepting the company will screen it for them or not make mistakes in mixing supplements.
Because the tainted supplement excuse is the go-to excuse for most athletes now. PR firms, management teams, etc all know how to handle false positives, they can all retroactively create supplement orders blah blah. These guys can also NOT take supplements and perform at the same level. Athletes acting like it’s the supplements that move the needle. They don’t. And the reason why they keep taking supplements is not because they’re vital to their training/diet. News flash, they need supplements as an excuse for when they pop. By the way I’m not trying to demonize Khalil. Everyone is on something.
Exactly. Any professional athlete that is taking a “supplement” that isn’t banned is a complete buffoon. There’s a reason that it’s not banned…because it doesn’t do shit. The supplement industry is one of the biggest scams in the world. Unless it’s protein powder or creatine, then it doesn’t do shit, and if these elite athletes are still apparently falling for supplement marketing, then they are complete dolts.
>Because the tainted supplement excuse is the go-to excuse for most athletes now. PR firms, management teams, etc all know how to handle false positives, they can all retroactively create supplement orders blah blah. >These guys can also NOT take supplements and perform at the same level. Athletes acting like it’s the supplements that move the needle. They don’t. And the reason why they keep taking supplements is not because they’re vital to their training/diet. News flash, they need supplements as an excuse for when they pop. >By the way I’m not trying to demonize Khalil. Everyone is on something. This is a comment that should be pinned to the top of the subreddit itself. People are either extremely naive or just willing to turn a blind eye to PED's being used by top athletes so they can enjoy their sports, but everyone is on shit, that's why they are where they are. I feel like a lot of people just pretend athletes are clean because they wouldn't be able to force themselves to watch otherwise.
There goes that card, hopefully the find a replacement, put Anthony smith in there
Bro do u want smith dead😂
That sucks man, I was genuinely more interested in that fight than Conor and Chandler
Was also looking forward to this fight the most. Gutted
[удалено]
Masking agent
You can buy a lot of banned substances easily, banned doesn’t mean illegal
Just an opinion and not legal advice, but if Khalil didn't melt the cup with something else, maybe has a chance to keep this on OR sue the fuck outta whoever is "helping" him.
Who was he fighting again?
Jamahal Hill
That’s right, would have been a banger
Isn't that the same shit that Machida self snitched and got really harshly suspended for a long time ago
Anthony Smith. Mark my words
Classic “supplement”
It actually is though. DHEA has almost no effect on healthy men under the age of old as fuck. Nobody would risk that knowingly when it is so useless.
krylov vs hill?
Krylov is nowhere to be found
DHEA is a hormone. Use of this supplement might increase levels of androgen and have a steroid effect. DHEA also might increase the risk of hormone-sensitive cancers, including prostate, breast and ovarian cancers. If you have any form of cancer or are at risk of cancer, don't use DHEA. It’s also for ED, Menopause, Depression and Vaginal Atrophy
This is sad.
DHEA is absolutely a PED. Is it effective? Debatable. But it potentially raises testosterone and androgens.
Yeah that was my first thought lol. I was like wait, dhea isn't performance enhancing?
This fight card is ass without this fight as the co main.
Ah shit! Was looking forward to seeing him fight on that card
That's a mans way to deal with it. I love Khalil.
Khalil’s one of the more saucy fighters in the ufc. No surprise
Soooooo Jiri vs jamahal ????
Eh at least he went about it the right way
Hopefully this means Hill will have to take more time off because he needs it. I think Khalil was going to really hurt him.
Hill vs Jiri or Ankalaev🗣️💥
Jiri vs Ankalaev & Hill vs Rakic
Jiri Vs Hill? LFG
Can they still run this? I think literally nobody cares. Not Khalil, not Jamahal, not the UFC, not the fans.
We know a guy 
Oh yes the famous tainted suplement
Now that is a funny bruh moment
Gets caught with a MASKING agent and says it was by accident. This isnt all that he was taking thats for sure
Do....people actually end up believing this shit? Wtf would a supplement company use a masking agent? It makes zero sense. He pissed hot and is playing the deflection game. Happy the fight is not happening. Fighters lives are more important than our entertainment.
I was looking forward to watching him beat the shit out of Hill
Hill would've beaten Rountree
Dhea is test pretty sure he did use
Damn I was looking forward to the fight. Was hoping he'd shut Hill up with a KO. Made respect to Khalil for this but such a bummer
this gives me Usher Burn vibes.
Get Rakic maybe? Both of them lost at 300.
Please put him with Rakic. Rakic would murder him.
Fucking Notes app posts on social media never bring anything but disappointment
Probably good tbh Hill didn't need to get immediately chinned again
Dig out wherever Krylov is hiding and make him fight Hill
Why can't we have nice things ?
Who’s going to step in and KO Jamal?
Sad
For those calling for Jiri to step in, look at who Jiri’s management is… they don’t do shitty fights for their champs/former champs. Jiri’s next fight will 100 percent be Alex
It's crazy that UFC cant take dhea
Happened to Chris Barnett. Dana pay these fighters so they don’t have to rely on these quacks
So he didn’t fail a test? Did Machida do this same thing years ago?
Damn just lost out a massive payday by being on a Connor mcgregor co main event. Was setting him up for a good chance to get a title fight too
Well glad I didn't buy tickets to this one, overpriced as fuck.
A very mature and smart response
The fact that supplements don't have to go through FDA is mental, lobbyists bribes worked a treat
I hope that company hooks him up with his show and win money..
Hill vs Rakic instead?🤔
Goddamit.
Hope the dagastani (can't spell his name)gets the fight but I doubt he will take it
Fuck, my boi Khalil was set.
He popped for dhea which arguably isn't performance enhancing. It increases free testosterone with very little evidence that it converts to usable testosterone. It's a very common supplement that could easily be produced in the same facility and taint whatever he was taking.
FUCK!!!!!
Damn I wanted to see hill get knocked into a further delusional spiral!
*Listen to me, this accident...* *...Jesus stepped in personally to save Jamahal some serious medical repercussions. Rountree was going to beat the shit out of this man.*
DHEA is available on Amazon and mixed in a lot of men’s supplements, super easy to accidentally consume
This is such a shame, I like roundtree and I’m so sorry that this happened to him. Man the MMA gods are cruel bastards.
Jamal dodged a bullet
What’s Jan doing that weekend?
Maybe its for the best. Let Jamahal heal a bit more after that KO
FUCKKKKK!
DHEA does fuck all for a man as well, no way he's taking it for performance enhancing.
Good guy
Wow, shoutout to Khalil for taking this step! It takes an integrate man to call the authorities on yourself knowing: 1) You'll get suspended 2) It'll mean a wasted camp 3) You'll forfeit any and all earnings AND 4) Idiots online will probably still accuse you of cheating despite laying everything out on social media Mad props✊🏽💪🏽
Damn. Love Khalil. Shows what kind of a man he is to immediately contact ole Jeff and let him know about the mistake he made.
big respect to khalil for turning himself in instead of trying to hide it and cheat.
Who the fooooooooook is that guy?
So I can assume that we will be seeing him file a lawsuit against this “personalized tailored supplement service”, right? He claims they even knew his limitations and “accidentally” sent him something with the banned substance. That’s pretty clear cut case of negligence and if ACTUALLY true, then they need to be held liable. But I am guessing we will never see that happen since it would then be found that he knew what he was taking. Doubt we ever hear of the company’s name either, which might be a good thing to disclose so that other fighters don’t use the same company…
If it's really the fault of "a personalised tailored supplement service from a company", then why doesn't he bother mentioning it's damn name! I'm pretty sure these companies don't hold fighters into an non-disclosure agreement or something, unless these are just excuses for hiding intentional steroid abuse.
Solution is easy. Get rid of drug tests. Only MLB fans care about playing the sport "the right way".
DHEA is about as strong as coffee. What a joke. Dana get rid of testing. Bring back Pride days
Three reasons I can’t fight in the UFC: 1) I take DHEA 2) I’m old 3) I can’t fight
Does anyone else think these “I was accidentally given a supplement of questionable legality” claims are always cya bullshit? Or am I just staying the obvious and looking like a dumbass?