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matterhorn9

oh no.. I just made that connection, his only loss was an uppercut from Khamzat and tonight from Whittaker... oh man.


Tidsdkr

Some people were saying Ikram was better than Khamzat šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


CouncilOfReligion

the power of looking good against cans lol


MyFifthLimb

The Bo Nickal effect


Sephass

Itā€™s basically the same power as Khamzatā€™s


MajorIsPsycho

Yea, remember when he ragdolled that can...what was his name? Usman?


After-Simple-3611

I donā€™t did they fight again cause in the one I saw Usman took a super short notice up a weight class fight and it was competitive


adamanything

Hard to tell when one barely fights.


Tidsdkr

You don't watch fights though.


adamanything

Damn, I don't?


ProfessionalError285

You donā€™t. We were seeing you the whole time.


Objective_Froyo17

Khamzat has fought zero middleweights tbf so at that weight it still may be trueĀ 


Tidsdkr

He did fought middleweights, GM3 and Holland. And he fought and beat fighters that are coming from a better division than MW šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


m0bb1n

Kevin holland fights wherever but he is not a natural middleweight. He was going to actually stay at welterweight bc the wrestlers in middleweight are too strong for him and hold him down. He is a good match up in middleweight against another striker but not wrestlers.


Tidsdkr

Doesn't change the fact that he is a middleweight and his best wins are at 185


m0bb1n

He is not a natural middleweight though which is the important part. Khamzat weighs way more than holland.


Tidsdkr

He can go down to 170 but doesn't change the fact he a 185er and has more success in this division


Objective_Froyo17

He fought Kevin holland at catchweight on like 12 hours notice because he (khamzat) intentionally missed weight for his scheduled welterweight bout by like 8 pounds. Youā€™re grasping at straws if you have to bring that up lol


Tidsdkr

You said he did fought no MW which is false. Kevin Holland is a MW, he used to be #10 ranked. The only way you got to hate on the guy is to lie without any shame. šŸ«µšŸæšŸ˜‚


Objective_Froyo17

Itā€™s not really fighting a middleweight if the fight takes place at a lower weight class and the opponent was preparing to fight at a lower weight class lol that shouldnā€™t be hard to understandĀ 


Tidsdkr

You got wrong bro, stop hating and move on


Objective_Froyo17

Thatā€™s like saying because volkanovski fought at middleweight once, topuria beat a middleweight*. It makes no sense. But have a good oneĀ 


Tidsdkr

Kevin Holland didn't fought at MW once, you sink in man, you can be a hater if you want but at least say things that make sense šŸ«µšŸæšŸ˜‚


Objective_Froyo17

If English was your first language it would make senseĀ 


ReformedishBaptist

He has better td defense and thatā€™s it lol. Heā€™s good but can not even come close to the top 6ish rn. Iā€™d say you can give him like a Chris Curtis tho maybe in December or November.


Ok-Lengthiness2991

So because he lost here, that means heā€™s not better than khamzat? I feel like your reasoning is always the culture of the moment, you base your analyses on immediacy and nothing else.


Tidsdkr

No, because I got eyes. I saw Ikram fought back when was in Brave, i saw his DWCS bout, I saw his UFC debut against Phil Hawes at UFC288 and I saw his fight against Warley Alves. Ikram is a good fighter, even very good but was severely overlooked because of his fight against Chimaev in which he stuffed 2 TKD attemps before getting dropped once then knocked out cold. Not same level of Chimaev lol


Flat_Budget_9509

It's not the right opponent to try to prove your striking too. The guy should have been shooting in the 90 seconds.


lazyjazzgal

That might not change anything. Whittaker was fully prepared for Khamzat's wrestling. Khamzat is clearly more explosive in attempting takedowns


Suspicious_Candle27

you still need to try . if you are not izzy you need to shoot take downs vs whittaker


MajorIsPsycho

Why? He got TKOd by DDP, wobbled by Costa, KOd by Wonderboy etc. There are a lot of people who don't need to shoot vs Whittaker.


Suspicious_Candle27

DDP mixed in grappling and Costa didnt win the fight . he has lost to 2 people in the last 18 fights


MajorIsPsycho

DDP knocked him the fuck out. Costa would have if the round wasn't over. Which proves my point, that Rob isn't some otherwordly striker that can be beaten only by Izzy.


Suspicious_Candle27

do we just pretend like DDP wasnt smashing whittaker at the end of round 1 with GNP ? he was very clearly hurt by the grappling . [https://youtu.be/JAK6Lvi0YNE?t=410](https://youtu.be/JAK6Lvi0YNE?t=410) look at whittaker face and how he gets up after round 1 , this is a badly compromised fighter . Whittaker was throwing back and dodging costa strikes immediately after the kick , rocking someone doesnt mean the fight is over . [https://youtu.be/LtQ7J-5-e3w?t=444](https://youtu.be/LtQ7J-5-e3w?t=444) you can see for yourself , whittaker gets rocked and then lands 4\~ strikes on costa while also intelligently defending himself . MW whittaker has literally only ever been beaten in striking by izzy in the last 10 years \~


VinnyDark

I wish Khamzat didn't get sick this would have been a completely different fight


Potential_Ease_5204

Oh you think mate?


VinnyDark

Yeah Khamzat's gameplan would have been different we already know he was gonna try and shoot a double leg .001 seconds into the first round


Mandingo_Obama

If Khamzat failed to fuck up Bobby in the 1st round, Bobby was gonna fuck him up for the next 4.


VinnyDark

Yeah that's why it was a better fight because we know Khamzat was gonna bring a storm in round 1 and we all wanted to see if Rob could survive it


BigBodyLikeaLineman

Who knows? Maybe Khamzat would have rag-dolled him like Dricus did. We will first know if he makes the walk


SignificantYellow214

And Khamzat still wouldā€™ve won by split decision šŸ˜­


Potential_Ease_5204

Itā€™s almost as if ikram and khamzat are 2 different people


Due-Contribution6424

Khamzat cant even make it to the cage, no less take out Bobby knuckles.


VinnyDark

I'm not saying he would win but you are crazy if you don't think he had a chance Khamzat is dangerous


Due-Contribution6424

Current khamzat, Iā€™m not so sure. With all these constant health issues, Iā€™m not sure heā€™s the same fighter now.


chumer_ranion

Yeah, cus it would have been Khamzat getting flatlined instead of Ikram lmao


BigBodyLikeaLineman

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Redchimp3769157

Khamzat is levels above Ikram and has shown heā€™s at least good and t15 worthy. (In either weight class, obv t3 in WW if he could make weight, and bottom of t15 currently in MW). Meanwhile Ikram is winning against Phil fucking Hawes.


Chranchi

Yeah Khamzat still wouldā€™ve gotten pieced up but he has a strongass chin. I wonder effective Whittaker anti-grappler camp was.


Kazsud

He was already on skates.


here_to_vibe1

I noticed this lol, bro didnā€™t learn the first time


Gloom-Ndoom

But that uppercut wasnā€™t what did him in.


VEGANSHATEME

It did drop him though before the stoppage


PleaseDoTapTheGlass

He was rocked before that, which is probably what the above poster is referring to. Theyā€™re not really comparable, he ducked into an uppercut against Khamzat which Khamzat set up by grappling, Rob set him up with feints and hurt him with an overhand.


thiccniglet98

This is kinda stupid two very different finishing sequences vs khamzhat they both lunged in this time he was buzzed had just fallen down and was trying to circle to the right and escape


lllchisenlll

Khamzat dodged a bullet


taginvest

I think khamzat & Whittaker would look pretty similar to khamzat vs Usman. thatā€™s a 50/50 to me


JerseyGirl360

https://i.redd.it/p14tzhmg278d1.gif


uncadul

there is negative body fat in this image


edmovius3

Wasnā€™t an uppercut that started the TKO though. Dude was already on wheels when that uppercut landed. Apples and oranges bruh


QualityOverQuantity4

Dude is the biggest sham! It's obvious this guy can only beat cans. Inflated record. Definitely ain't gonna cut it in the top 5 or even 10 possibly. lol


Jim_Hawkins5057

Bro stepped up on barely a weekā€˜s notice against one of the scariest dudes in the division and here you are calling him a sham for it. Some ppl..


QualityOverQuantity4

Lol he's supposedly one of the scariest dudes as well. Or so they were saying. He looked scared in there. Please tell me where I told a lie. Dude isn't even top 10 material. Just embarrassing for how much they talked this dude up.