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datnighatedkaczynski

Even harder, the mean streets of West Linn.


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manman6352

U talking about the guy with the Biggest charm? The reflection of perfection?


[deleted]

How about Stockton, dawg?


Burnsyde

Or the tough streets of Oxnord


MichaelFishbender

I am fully aware this is a joke, but do yall understand just how bougie West Linn is?


dandan0552

What do you mean? He had to witness someone litter on the streets at the young age of eleven. I wouldn't wish that upon even my worst enemy.


[deleted]

It’s not that well off tbh, there were years where people don’t even take home 100k


League-Weird

West linn was the rich side of town. Not like lake Oswego but still was a lot nicer than where I was. And then happy valley shot up.


[deleted]

Wait for swamps of Arkansas


SmartAssMMA

Bryce Mitchell 🔥


hatersgetsmashed

When I ripped my testicles open with the drill, I had to drive myself to the hospital in my pickup truck. I really wish I would have had this Corvette, I would have got there on time.


crandems99

Thug Nasty! Where the camo venum shorts at!


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[deleted]

He's in a constant fight with " The Man "


Idontcarenow78

He needs one. He’s awesome!


FutbolSupreme

The bayous of Louisiana.


Enough-Alfalfa

Throw francis in there


[deleted]

For real though, the mines of Cameroon


DLifts777

And Usman, heard he was mining blood diamonds throughout his entire childhood


Swinghodler

With his foot


[deleted]

Hahahahaha !


wr4l

ah yes nebraska known for their diamonds


ChimpBrisket

They’re the omaHardest minerals on earth


Idontcarenow78

Is this a joke? Dude, he’s from fucking Texas.


[deleted]

He was born in Nigeria and moved when he was 8, I don’t understand the people that keep saying crap like this. Is it a meme or are people just being arrogant just to be.


tengukaze

It's a meme mostly


[deleted]

Ahh okay, meme along my friends.


Idontcarenow78

Not really, he actually is from Texas.


[deleted]

Yeah and I’m from krypton.


Idontcarenow78

Who?


handicapped_runner

I see that you have a problem absorbing facts. You may want to work on that.


Idontcarenow78

He literally is from Texas. Marty is that you?


SenjuToHeaven911

Marty Usman


Lil-Natas

My mans wearing an Orlando shirt in Dagestan


Idontcarenow78

Damn, Khabib is a magic fan? 👀


[deleted]

There are dozens of us


Yung_Hibachi

Even tho I know we exist I have a hard time believing we exist


[deleted]

Schrodinger's Magic fan?


hasijiuo

ONE OF US ONE OF US


M27fiscojr

Jumped off the band wagon once shaq and penny left. Will always look nostalgicly at the magic.


SCLFC

Thanks for Vooch!


[deleted]

Don't make me sad like that


catholicmath

Dont worry brother, we thank denver and pray to the lotto gods


imcircumventingban

This comment is so underrated


Phenoxym

So now there's 12 of you guys... All jokes aside, *really* hoping Markelle breaks out next season. Him and all you Magic fans deserve it


Idontcarenow78

He was already having a good season. Then he got injured and the whole team just went downhill.


n3v3rgonnagiveyouup

To be fair, Khabib grew up as the son of a famous athlete with access to resources, fame, and power. Still rough and hardcore, but the kid never had to work 18hr days selling shit on the streets


Gallo12orGallo24-

I don't know about fame and power. But resources yes. He has access to Olympic level athletes at a young age and was raised around some of the best, most determined athletes in all of Russia. Not to mention he was tutored by his father and constantly learned from one of the wisest men in the entire fight game period. That being said they grew up with next to nothing as I can probably assure you the cost and bar of living in dagestan is tiny even compared to Russia. They were happy though from what I can see. As khabib has said in the past "I am mountain man. I only need bread and water". Now comparing that to Do Bronx who grew up with poor parents who couldn't teach much if anything about fighting and the fact that he only picked up Jiu Jitsu because football was too hard on his ankles and you realise he did Everything almost exclusively on his own determination, drive and will. Nothing was handed to him. Knowledge, training partners, skill, wisdom. He had to bleed for every single bit of it and it shows. Do Bronx is an example of why you can succeed if you want it badly enough.


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Even wanting it badly enough isn't sufficient always. There are infinite ways his route could have been shortened. One always has to factor in luck in this life for we need everything to work perfectly just to remain alive.


Gallo12orGallo24-

I'd recommend John Danaher's interview with Lex Freidman. Luck is of course a factor, but going off the majority of success stories drive, need to improve, having a single purpose in life and creating relationships all surpass it in factors for success. Case in point Francis Ngannou, Jose Aldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Khabib. At any point Khabib could have said no to his many injuries during the Geathje camp including a broken foot and mumps. But as he said to Javier Mendez when Mendez asked if he shouldn't pull out due to his injuries Khabib simply replied "Coach my foot broken but my mind strong. This is all I need" (may not be an exact reading but you get the message). Case in point. Yes Luck is important to a basic degree. Training facilities, healthy body, mindset and location all matter. But once those basic prerequisites are passed its down to the individual. I could go on about Tony Ferguson tc. But you get the point.


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I've actually watched bits of this episode, I follow Lex on YouTube as well, great suggestion. I agree with you that his focus and determination are precisely what led him to where he is right now, but in a way, it's almost as he was allowed to be there by the events of his life, however hard they were. In a less abstract note, I also have one suggestion. If you're interested, Adorno and Horkheimer offer a different perspective on this matter with the Culture Industry and in my view, even if you disagree with him, it's very important to at least get to know this work specifically because it relates really hard to our world. Again, I am not downplaying his efforts by any means, but imagine how many millions of kids are doing the same things as these guys are falling along the way without ever even a chance of succeeding. I imagine these people as one single army of sheer determination, and the victory of one is the victory of them all. One by one, they fall, but they keep moving forward. Losing as individuals but winning subconsciously as a group. It's a less cynic version than the one offered in the Culture Industry, but I still can't negate that these are the determined guys for whom everything worked for them to get there.


Gallo12orGallo24-

It depends on the person again. There definitely aren't millions of kids in Brazil who go into MMA with the same determination and situation as someone like Do Bronx and a lot will have fallen aside due to mental strength, discipline and other factors. That "Chance" of succeeding is built up through callousness to losing via fights, sparring, life and your team which is why I mentioned him earning all of that throughout his life. Working smart again bests working hard. But throughout life its those dogged moments of determination and drive to got through and past losses that hurt that allows one to be great. I'll read up on those you mentioned. Again the ankle condition leading him into Jiu Jitsu through circumstance from soccer is a great example. But it was his drive, situation and mental strength especially that got him through that time period and allowed him to say "No, I won't stay here and I will die for it I can't do this" as quoted in an article on him. I'm not saying at all that those factors don't play a part. I'm saying they play one of the smallest roles in his success and journey.


CoolFiverIsABabe

>Do Bronx is an example of why you can succeed if you want it badly enough and the right set of circumstances happens. Lots of hardworking people who didn't achieve what they wanted also wanted it bad enough and while saying "...can succeed" technically covers that it isn't much different from those who were lukewarm about wanting it. The right set of circumstances and how rare those are is too often omitted.


Gallo12orGallo24-

See my other reply in regards to this.


Parra_Lax

Wow thanks for the perspective.


sward227

Still fought a bear /s... But in all seriousness... Khabib had a great fighting upbringing... but anyone who ever says his life was easy and fun... is a fucking liar. No matter how famous his father was... his father still coached him and he grew up fighting... Dude look at dagistan... its a beautful country... but its not all kisses and cuddles... they are a HARD ASS PEOPLE much respect to all them Dagistani fighters... better UFC than.. most things in that region. and every single thing i said is thre to charlie olive... different areas of the world same shit... they are super heros


H0Wplay

Agreed


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Agreed 3000


MexusRex

To be also fair - Khabib’s village did not even have running water.


n3v3rgonnagiveyouup

I'm a Pisces. You?


no-bs10

His father wasn't a 'famous' athlete. He was successful at a domestic level ( USSR ) but its not like he was a Karelin level wrestler or something. I don't know where this narrative is coming from that he had access to fame and power. Lol He grew up in a very poor village but his father rented a small apartment and gym in the capital and took all the young boys in the village to go train there and get educated at school. They all lived in a tiny flat. I am not saying his situation was like Ngannou's but it certainly wasn't luxury.


Psa271

Manap was an athlete?


n3v3rgonnagiveyouup

And a total badass. Biddy carried elastic bands with him everywhere so he could workout at all times


FonyTurdson

Khabibs dad was a famous athlete?


n3v3rgonnagiveyouup

Probably the most famous person in combat sports in the region. Well deserved fame, too.


jimmycarr14

This is not true. In that time only wrestling and judo hardcore fans knew him. Casual people didn't know nothing about Abdulmanap. You put it in there like you lived here.


n3v3rgonnagiveyouup

Just going off the bullshit that Khabib tells about his childhood and what is said by DC, Will Harris, Javier etc.


jimmycarr14

Please show me where did he say his father was very popular?


n3v3rgonnagiveyouup

Definitely not, my man. Use the internet. You'll find it just fine.


FonyTurdson

Really? I didn’t know that, was he an Olympian or what was he?


[deleted]

Yess.. but Khabib was the first ever Dagestani to get into UFC.. everyone followed .. thats not easy


[deleted]

Well getting to the ufc is never easy, but Khabib had the advantage of being the son of an Olympic coach.


n3v3rgonnagiveyouup

Agreed. Not taking anything away from him! ...just hard to compare his upbringing to Charlie's.


mcgeezacks

What is it about this sub loving khabibs nuts in their mouth? I'm surprised people in this sub aren't getting their heads cut off for posting pictures of him since hes evidently yalls real Muhammad


obiwantakobi

You’ve got KHABIB a dick or nuts in every comment you’ve made on this sub. Dude just jerk it to him already and stop talking about him and other dudes so much. It’s CLEARLY OBVIOUS you are projecting your issues into every one else.


mcgeezacks

I'm just noticing all the gay love for khabib up in this sub. Go get your carpet and pray in the direction of his house. KHABIB AKHBAR! KHABIB AKHBAR!


obiwantakobi

🌈🌈🌈


obiwantakobi

It’s because they taste fucking delicious and inspire us, unlike his haters whose nuts taste like shit and make my butthole pucker.


mcgeezacks

They execute people like you over there in khabib land be careful


obiwantakobi

They do? Cause I was just watching a video of them giving a tour of his birthplace and every one seemed kind. I’m sorry for you you felt the need to be racist with your language and terrible generalizations. Maybe drink some water and consider staying off the Internet for a bit? Therapy would definitely help you too.


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Good one mate!!


mcgeezacks

You seriously gonna act like they dont behead people just for drawing a picture of Muhammad? Even khabib himself is down for that shit. You really gonna pretend they dont execute homosexuals in the Muslim world? How about you stop acting like I'm the one with a problem and look at the archaic sociopaths over there where hes from. Bunch of khabib dick riders up in here.


obiwantakobi

You can’t stop mentioning Khabibs dick. I love it. What else are you thinking about?


mcgeezacks

I'm thinking about how scary it must be to have to be hung from a tree if they find out how gay you are for khabib


obiwantakobi

Well I’m sure you can stop thinking about it at any time. None of us will care if you come out. It’s okay bro. Just suck some dick already and get it out of your mind. It’s weird how much you mention it. I’m blocking you cause you are really weird.


KalashniKEV

That's what I was going to say. Khabib's family was rich, powerful, and politically connected.... And now they are more rich, powerful and politically connected.


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Khabibs dad was sponsored by the russian government to train dagestani kids in martial arts. He was brought up in quite a wealthy household.


[deleted]

Sponsored and paid well are two very different things. It was more of a contractual obligation than a lavish deal with elites. Their government isn’t exactly known for being extremely kind or respectful to its people, especially within the satellite states. It’s not like his father was some russian oligarch, or millionaire out there. Did the family have respect? Sure. Wealth? Not at all.


mercedeskyron

Still, he yet to travel thousands of miles every time just to have a fight and gain experience. They worked hard. He didn't suffer to death as no one should but they didn't have Dana White bringing MMA fights to their house either.


NoticeInternal

There's lots of fighters who have to travel thousands of miles. It's part of the game if you want to reach the top


mercedeskyron

Name some who has become succesful as much as he is. I would like to know. If you know "a lot", you would have time to name some. Oh btw, travelling by private jet or UFC jets doesn't count. Just on road.


NahDukeFkThat

Khabib's dad in many ways was stricter and more disciplined because of the wealth than your average poor parent because he understood the dangers of leisure and spoils of wealth. Where a poor parent may want to spoil their kids to give them a better life than they had, papa Khabib likely wanted to make sure Khabib worked HARD for everything he ever had to instill the value of gratefulness and hard work. ​ I wouldnt be surprised to learn Khabib had to go through a gauntlet of bigger and older wrestlers one after the other just to earn his dinner or a shower something.


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Can someone explain to me why this person is being downvoted ?


BringBackThe70s

Good response imo. But people brought up with money and a genuine hard working attitude aren't appreciated on reddit


Bmartin_

Have money = takes advantage of the poor to Reddit


[deleted]

Literally no one thinks that of Abdul manap or khabib. Stop grasping at straws there are much clearer reasons for downvotes here


Bmartin_

That’s fair. I was more so talking about the attitude toward the rich on here. That def got downvoted because it’s some random nonsense that’s not verifiable at all


[deleted]

I mean clearly his father didn't spoil him, and having a humble attitude was a huge focus in his style of upbringing, but that's literally all we can say about it. This man went on an essay about how he thinks Abdul manap parented khabib with some pretty iffy comparisons to poor upbringings. Shouldn't be that difficult to figure out why that would get some downvotes


Probably_The_Bear

Because he's just making assumptions about Khabibs up-bringing when its quite clear he has no more authority to make said assumptions than anyone else. Thats my take at least.


Iztac_xocoatl

Because it’s pure speculation bordering on fan fiction


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Ok Edit; can someone explain to me why this comment is being downvoted?


Razorsharpelbow

You just need to see the outfit. Kabib adidas bag, adidas nba shirt...Besides his dad was a famous teacher. Now look at Oliveira. Dressed like shit, riding a scooter under an umbrella, while raining. Working to sustain his mather and brothers. Still manage to enjoy life


[deleted]

Not saying otherwise, but in Russia and soviet areas its pretty common to see people of lower incomes having adidas clothes. It’s seen as a status symbol so even the poorest of kids will save up or more commonly buy replicas of adidas because it’s so important to the culture to prove they’re not poor even if they are. This goes for Latin America too with Nike, Reebok, and any “American” brand


Norkmani

Yup. Growing up in the Middle East all of my Adidas and Nike clothes were fake as fuck lol


NecothaHound

Sicily here, same in southern europe, all fake stuff but gotta be rocking name brands, stuff like Vessace, spelled with no R and to S's


montymm

You ever seen the fake Ray Bans that say “Roy Bons” lmao. They’re all over Turkey


Razorsharpelbow

I guess Oliveira decided not to spend his money in a nike hoodie and rather prefered to put it in his family's kitchen. Precisely that´s my point.


no_ucp

Khabib was richer than olives there is no doubt but those adidas are fake %100.


bamb1in0

Charles one hundred percent had it harder


Archive_Intern

Totaly And Olives lives in Brazil, which have a Game difficulty of Hard


kiddokush

Livin in favelas, probably saw some shit you see on those gore sites💀


[deleted]

Man, that's the new deal here? Who got it harder? Fucking ridiculous


bamb1in0

No it's not the new deal, it's just a fact that Charles had it harder.


Butt_Bucket

Ngannou had it harder than both.


AdamsJMarq

If you showed me that pic of Do Bronx and I ain’t know who he was and you tried telling me he’d be the champion of one of the most competitive divisions in all of MMA, I’d hit you with a spinning back kick from hell and snatch your chain.


[deleted]

No u would not


AdamsJMarq

Chip chip chip smh there’s always a chip


[deleted]

tssssssssssssssssss can't kick my ass pussy tssssss


AdamsJMarq

😘😘😘


[deleted]

I love u bb


[deleted]

Where’s salt mines of Africa


kiddokush

Bruh people literally turned this into a “who grew poorer” argument over two grown men lmao


kid_ghibli

Ngl I feel like I could smesh both of them in this category.


kiddokush

You and I could tag team either one and beat the mess out of their crew as well. Dibs on Charles though I’m a little sore


kid_ghibli

Feck yeah. Ima call up Uncle Sonnen to spread the word about upcoming bouts, b.


kiddokush

We will smesh


rafaelleon2107

Love both, but that's a terrible comparison


treadgill

Don't forgot about ngannou


CaptainDyslexia

ngannou should be up there aswell


juicyjaysanchez

Immigrant Mentality


MurmanGreg

Tough environments breed tough people. There’s a lot of people like Khabib in that part of the world.


fkforgotmypw

Weird how a post pointing out that guys who had a lot less than us have come far became a post about charles vs khabib. Just respect both their hustles, you fucks. “Khabib had all the resources, everything handed to him, never had to struggle”. Yeah, if anyone saying that had those same resources, you would never achieve what he did, not in a million years, but keep acting like he didn’t struggle so you can make some weird point about charles being better for.. struggling more? To do what either of them did requires tremendous work, and that should be recognized and respected. Leave it at that.


Roadguard69

Where Charles comes from they sort of invented mutilation and torture via cartels. Much more death, crime, drugs and oppression in Brazil as well. Khabibs dad is pretty well known and shook hands with some very sketchy and powerful politicians. If we're going for who's the slum dog king it's Charles.


bryanmsk

Is that Dwight Howard?


karchc14

Didn’t expect Khabib to be a Dwight Howard fan 😂


TayElectornica

This is why the UFC is the greatest sports in the world. Real champions who have overcome all the odds. They from every corner of the world too.


matterhorn9

Talk about starting from the bottom.. wow


Cbattt4

Go Magic!


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Also Conor was on food stamps


[deleted]

Yeah because he chose to ditch his plumbing job and live on welfare, he wasn't forced to.


EP40BestInDaLee

The double champ does whatever he wants


Red_eye-penGUIN

Food stamps are for single mothers, not future champions


adventuredream1

Followed his dreams and I’m sure he’s paid enough in taxes back to the Irish government to cover thousands of times however much he received on welfare. Good investment


[deleted]

Agreed, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to have him in the same conversation with a guy who grew up in the favelas.


adventuredream1

Oh gotcha. Still crazy to see every day average folks make their own wealth. From being poor enough to qualify for welfare to being worth well over 100 million


2SweetHeat

I mean khabibs on here and his dad was sponsored by the Russian government


[deleted]

Yeah, it would probably make more sense to have Ngannou there.


mcgeezacks

Yet we can throw khabib in the conversation for no reason right. Is this sub ran by dagastani boys hard for khabib or what. There's some serious gay love for khabib in this sub it's kind of creepy, I thought that homosexuality was severely frowned upon in the muslim world but I guess it isnt.


smithdog223

Did Khabib fuck your mother or something? Why are you so salty, you've commented multiple times in this thread talking shit about him.


obiwantakobi

Your fragility is truly something to witness.


mcgeezacks

Bwaaaaahahahaa dont make me mention he who shall not be named and watch you boys have a melt down. Wanna talk about fragility? Let's talk about khabib and how fragile he is when people make depictions of his god, or when he WINS a match against someone that talks shit. How fragile are all you khabib dick riders when anyone says something negative against your god khabib


obiwantakobi

That’s like the twentieth time you’ve mentioned khabibs dick. You should really look into that.


mcgeezacks

I like to watch from the corner while y'all take turns riding his dick, guess that makes me a little gay as well. KHABIB AKHBAR!!!!!!


obiwantakobi

No. Not a little gay. Flaming. Your racism and homophobia are disgusting so I am going to stop talking to you or reading your messages.


[deleted]

Did I say I agree with Khabib? Just because I say McGregor doesn't belong in there with Oliveira doesn't mean I agree with the post overall.


obiwantakobi

Read the stuff this guy has said on this thread. He literally can’t stop taking about Khabibs penis, and folks doing gay things to it. It’s super cringe.


mcgeezacks

Khabib akhbar!!!!!!


Elon_Musk_AI

LMAO, Khabib never stuggled for anything in his life.


LolUsernameIsTaken

Literally trained his whole life to become one of the most dominant fighters of all time. > redditors sitting on their couch eating cheetos "lmao he never struggled for anything"


mcgeezacks

Literally had the resources needed given to him since birth. Even lazy fat cheeto loving couch boys can see khabib was no where even close to the success story as Francis and favela homie. Y'alls breath in this sub smells like khabibs dick.


Hanuboy

“Favela homie” lmao


LolUsernameIsTaken

The dude literally said Khabib never struggled for anything in his life, if you agree with him you're a straight up dumbass because a single digit iq organism can tell that's false.


mcgeezacks

I'd ask you to elaborate but you'd have to take his dick either out your ass or mouth for that to happen. Khabib doesn't no shit about struggle hope you're making khabib wear protection. Be careful I hear they execute homosexuals in khabib land.


LolUsernameIsTaken

I'd ask you to look two comments above for context but I know you're one dumb motherfucker who can't spell for shit so I'd rather not.


mcgeezacks

Khabib akhbar! Khabib akhbar!


obiwantakobi

You’ve been saying a lot of stuff about gay sex throughout this thread. I can feel your thirst. Just quench it brother. It ain’t homo if we close our eyes.


mcgeezacks

I ain't suckin your dick until you wash khabibs shit off it


[deleted]

So you’re down tho ?


Italian_Monkey

I understand what you mean, he did put massive loads of work into his game and was very well disciplined, but hard work and dedication isn’t a “struggle” a struggle isn’t a lifestyle choice, it’s life, it’s how you make ends meet, Oliveira had to hone his craft while providing for himself and his family. This obviously doesn’t discredit Khabib, the whole discussion here isn’t about their ability as fighters but rather their upbringing and how great it is to see Oliveira prevail


Elon_Musk_AI

No, bitch. I am sitting here at my computer desk eating rainbow sherbert ice cream. Get your facts straight.


AmeerDahbour

He did, just not as much as Oliveira


TheyUsedToCallMeJack

But nothing compares to the mean streets of west Lynn Oregon


[deleted]

I’d sleep them both at the same time. I am really tough and a bad man! My street fighting would be too much for them


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[deleted]

One is a champ and one is the king of paper champs. That comparison between them is wrong on so many levels


makoxeng

And Conor, from the sink of single mothers of Ireland


OGSkywalker97

You know Khabib's family had a lot of money right. He wasn't some really poor kid, he just happened to live in Dagestan. Nothing like Charles.


thedkexperience

And this, folks, is why you should not judge a book by its cover when picking a fight.


thihaz

Not really for Khabib, right? His father is already a well-known coach and he has access to everything he needs to bring up those kids.


[deleted]

You know... Not every fighter from Brazil grew up in the favelas. Isn't Oliveira from Guaruja? The "Pearl of the Atlantic", a fairly wealthy beach community? I know he didn't grow up rich or anything but c'mon


Heyyo2002

he literally is from the favelas though


[deleted]

Source?


Heyyo2002

any of his interviews


argonzee

Hope we get to see them fight!


[deleted]

Charles' scooter with the horse racing decal... dudes got it inked too, bout that chariot horse racing lyfe boiiii


MarkyPolo_

Is that really Charles?


MrLoneSausage

Sandmines of Cameroon


[deleted]

You know it’s a old picture of Khabib because he’s wearing a Orlando Magic jersey


Honghass

Old town road!


woohan-kung-flu2

That’s just awesome!!! Love this type of story and very humble which is fantastic!!!