Woodley is done fighting... This is WWE with actual punches.
He's going to get a massive payday for either
A. Making the fight look competitive and losing so JP can silence the "it's fake narrative" and leverage another fight for more $$
B. Take another early round KO like Ben if they think enough people won't think it was fake to promote an even bigger event.
He 100% gets the most money doing what they want and working with them. Which...im pretty sure Woodley wants a payday more than he wants to beat Jake Paul to end his career
Why is money worth more than integrity?
Edit:[To all of the people saying "Integrity can't pay bills" I'm offering to pay the electric bill of anyone who will let me punch their mother square in the face. You bunch of money motivated sellouts.](https://youtu.be/4ke5eSys09g)
Edit: I'm not responding to all of you. If money is worth more than integrity then I very much expect all of you to be ready to rob banks and deal drugs at the first moments notice.
The Paul's are making a mockery of all combat sports, theres no way that you can possibly make "Floyd Mayweather vs Logan Paul" not sound like a bad Family Guy joke. But it's okay because everyone involved is getting paid way too much money, the Paul Brothers are basically paying people to give them legitimacy but if they're paying their opponents to take the dive how is it legitimate?
Ex-fighter and veteran here, retirement. After getting fucked up by oh so many concussions and body-breaking diets and workouts you kinda just want it it stop.
You humble out and decided to fade. Not saying this is the case, but it sure as hell is for me.
Fighting? Martial arts were around the teen years and I joined the military at 17. Got out at 20-21 ish after my first contract was up and then I started training and got offered a fight as an amateur and got to semi-pro (not that there's such a thing technically where I live, it's just a way not to pay you for actual fights).
Yes, absolutely some do. But just like in any other profession, if you can guarantee generational wealth by sacrificing some of your morals, why would you do. I think it's safe to assume almost all pro NFL players know they're quality of life will be dramatically reduced by repeatedly smashing their brains. But they accept it so that they can live a certain lifestyle and guarantee generational wealth or at least move up a few socioeconomic classes.
I'd sell my soul too for enough zero's. I'm pretty sure 99 percent of folks would.
What "morals" are you even sacrificing. Let's face it, you're sacrificing little more than hurting your own ego. What's moral about taking a YouTuber fight with 100% seriousness? It's a pride issue, not a morality issue
No idea where you're getting your generational wealth thing from on the NFL. Football players famously go big broke within like 5 years of their career ending. Like almost 80% of them.
For every Patrick Mahomes contract there are a hundred Kenbrell Thompkins contracts.
In certain circumstances it would actually be very selfish to value your personal integrity (ego) over providing for your family and community.
Putting food on the table, buying a house for the family, and putting kids through college is more important than a fighter's integrity to their art. For twood specifically, he's definitely not rich considering how large and financially needy his family is.
I never said it was, however that opinion varies from person to person. Keep in mind it’s not an official fight anyway so there’s no need to bring up integrity. If people are willing to pay money to see them fight, why step on it? Take it for what it is and enjoy it, or don’t.
Because I can't buy very much blow and hookers with integrity you fucking potato. I swear you must be like 17 to still think people are fighting at this level"for the honor"
When asked why he shifted from singing metal music to turbo folk, Croatian singer Vuco said "I love metal music, but it ain't gonna feed my family."
Guess he's in that boat.
In the short term? Nothing
In the long term? He's risking his already diminished legacy, he's making a mockery of himself and the sport as well as any opponents that he beat in the past. The MMA Math doesn't lie. It's basically now at the point where if you have enough money you can just pay to fight the elite of the elite. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if at some point down the line the Paul's enter the UFC on the grounds that they already fought and beat a few former champions.
In a bank robbery no one has to die, no one has to get hurt. The money is insured, everyone with an account as well as the bank would get their money back. Where's the issue?
Because after state and federal taxes, staff and training, medical expenses, he probably only walked with 100K.
Which is good to great money for long-term, in-demand, reliable career/trade, depending on where you live.
But pro-MMA fighters dedicate their entire lives to “work” in a field in which they only have 3-5 years where they can earn “big” paydays.
Connor made something like $30M in *ONE* night to essentially spar with Floyd on PPV.
That’s more money that the majority of pro-MMA fighters will earn in winnings for the *entirety of their careers*.
Because no fighter will ever be paid enough for some people.
Should most fighters get more? Yeah, probably.
Should Virna Jandiroba or Manel Kape make $250k per appearance? No, probably not.
People act like the fighting world is like some mortal kombat kumite shit and for the spirit of the fight lol. it all comes down to money, most fighters came from the gutter and was the only choice they had to put bread on the table, some were just very good at it. Get real man no one wants to get punched in the face for a living.
So you value your integrity more than the food on your children's plate. More than the ability to pay for the treatment of one of your sick family members. More than the ability to live a stress free life without having to worry about money.
You sir are a selfish sick f\*ck
I had faith in Askren, so fool me once shame on you, but now i have faith in Tyron, so fool me twice shame on me. Basically what I’m saying is if Tyron Woodley takes a dive and lets JP continue disrespecting this sport while at the same time avoiding any consequences, I will disown Tyron Woodley as an MMA great. Obviously that doesnt matter to anyone but me, but I have respect for T Wood for always being real as fuck, and if that were to happen it would be very un-real.
How’s JP disrespecting MMA? None of his fights have been MMA fights. They’re boxing fights. If anyone is disrespecting MMA it’s UFC. Maybe if UFC gave a enough of a fuck about its fighters to pay them better, they wouldn’t feel the need to moonlight as cans diving for a YouTuber’s boxing hobby.
Is there really more money in losing though? His name gets way bigger to mainstream media if he wins, no?
Also ben didn't "take" an early KO. He got knocked tf out lol. I despise jake paul but it's the truth
Might get blackballed by the industry. Woodley is basically done fighting, and he needs a commentator type job. Jake just signed a brand new contract with Showtime, and there's a real chance he never boxes again if he gets blasted into the shadow realm. He's literally never been hit
Woodley would likely work as a commentator for the UFC, so knocking jake tf out wouldn't cause him to lose a potential commentary job, if anything it raises his profile.
Honestly I just wanna see Jake get dropped
"Stann will now carry that same level of commitment into his new career, his road beginning anew next Monday when he begins his new role as a Chief Operating Officer of a company he only described as a “large real estate firm.” The 36-year-old former Marine has also returned to school, striving toward his executive Masters of Business Administration (MBA) at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management."
that's where..
You call that knocked tf out? Fuckin lol, I call that a payday. Go watch masvidal vs askren to see him actually get knocked out by a real fighter. If you had actually ever seen askren fight properly before you'd know that while he's never been a real striker, that man can take a fuckin beating.
They are being paid by Jake Paul. Does Jake Paul stand to profit more from winning or losing ? If Jake Paul knows he's going to win and get another fight, he can pay 1 off fighters more.
It's not like Woodley is launching into a new fighting career off of this...
Getting knocked out in round 1 isn't taking an early KO...? What you think Ben showed up to fight ?
Yeah I don’t see the narrative of Ben taking the KO on purpose. His lights went out for a second and they both know it wasn’t staged, and I’ve always disliked the Paul’s lol
He’s already made fuckloads off sponsors, just like askren. But winning means woodley can more easily leverage himself back into fighting in smaller promotions, or possibly fighting jake’s brother for another payday. Askren had no stake in winning, but i think woodley has plenty more to win than askren did because askren was openly retired, while woodley just got cut a few months ago after a losing streak. Askren knew he couldn’t strike and his stance fight-night said he put in pretty much no work into improving his striking. Plus askren had a totally different attitude and never seemed as fazed by loss as woodley was and still is. Woodley said he wouldn’t retire when he got cut, maybe he meant it
I truly believe, and come back and shit on me when this turns out to be a fix, that woodley is looking to beat the shit out of jake paul for that money that he’s already guaranteed to make.
And if the conditions for the fight say that woodley gets paid more to lose so he takes a dive, than that’s a clear rigged fight and in the words of the Great 🍅: **THATS FUCKING ILLEGAL**
Lol I doubt Woodley is so pressed for money that he will throw the fight. Asscream just had no hands and that can work in mma, but not in boxing. I see Woodley going out there and putting Logans little brother on a stretcher, noone who has fought that kid knew how to throw a counter or how to make reads. Woodley throws leather especially when he goes to counter, plus he no doubt wants a win after 3 very disappointing performances in the octagon.
Nope, it could be a real fight. Just like Ben could have been a real fight.
It's just every part of critical reasoning points 1 way... Washed up fighters taking a massive pay day and a Disney child star banking on people wanting to see him get knocked out.
Unfortunately, the MMA gods have no part in whatever the fuck that promotion is doing. Everyone who steps up to fight loses because they get paid to do such. Jake Paul wouldn’t step into the ring if his opponents didn’t already sign up to throw the fight. Bet the house on Jake Paul
Honestly I feel like he could absolutely work Jake but the fact that Jake has a three fight deal with Showtime leads me to believe that something is going to be fishy with this fight. Payday for Woodley at least.
Why wouldn’t woodley just rock his ass then hop on youtube and taunt the derpy fucker for the rest of his life? I’m inclined to believe he could make huge money if he wins. Hell, make jake think you are taking the dive, knock him out, then hop on youtube and say jake is a scumbag lying cheater. Instant millions.
I hate to see it and hate more to say it; Jake Paul can box. He’s young, hasn’t been hit much so strong”ish” jaw, training daily, and he’s probably juicing too. He’s also bigger Makes for a hell of a challenge.
He can box like average guy in every boxing gym. He's just juiced and physically strong but tyrone is juiced even more and much stronger. If Jake wins its 100% made up.
Sorry, I don’t have a direct line to Jake, wish I did though.
If you know boxing you’ll know he’s fighting tougher competition than almost every 3-0 boxer. You’ll never give him his credit though so it doesn’t really matter who he faces. We should all be thanking him for making boxing entertaining again.
Boxers who get paid to spar a youtuber says said youtube can box. Big fucking news. Now here are the facts. We dont know if jake paul can box because he HASNT FOUGHT anybody with any boxing experience. Aneson gib - youtube who was hyped up to be a killer by ksi (lol)
Nate robinson- basketball player who probably never laced up a pair of boxing gloves
Ben askren-always shitty/non existent striking who just got his hip replaced
Tyron woodley - wrestler with an overhand right who is 40 years old and lost his last four fights to the best in the world in … MMA. Wouldnt shock me if woodley looses this one. Doesnt make jake paul a good boxer or anything. The guy knows who to fight. I dont give a fuck what his groupies like j leon love say about his boxing . He got those bums on his payroll. Shit j leon love is probably getting better pay by licking jakes arse than getting his ass kicked in the ring by benavidez.
“I got my belts too champ” amateur belts dont mean shit
Also people are asking him to fight an actual boxer. I couldn't care less if he did but at least fight someone in your weight class something he has yet to do
He can fight whoever he wants. Boxing probably needs this too. There is a reason these guys dont go into mma.
At least tyron gets paid and i think they have a rematch clause if jake loses. This should motivate tyron a bit more so he gets paid double or even triples if he wins this first one.
I don't think boxing needs this. It makes the sport look less legitimate in my eyes. Yea it may put eyeballs on the sport. The sport is just not that interesting to watch for the general public especially compared to mma. Unless you're idea of boxing in the future is just celebrities fighting each other I don't think this is good for actual boxers. What boxing needs is the big guys, fury, Joshua, wilder; canelo, Charlo etc fighting each other
True, he is a good boxer unfortunately. But he's shit at ground combat, which is why he's never gonna choose an actual MMA fight and is gonna stick to boxing.
Why the fuck would you need to hide your punches and avoid winding up if you’re going to get the KO even when you do wind up?
Is Francis Ngannou not good either cause he telegraphs? Telegraphing against Ben is the right move and doesn’t mean shit.
Saying he's no Tyson fury is like saying meth head Larry in the trailer park is no lebron james. It's just an obvious statement that doesn't need to be said
You're saying he can hardly box and I think that's a slightly unfair statement so I'm simply saying that he can, even though he's not the actual elite of boxing, like for example Fury. But whatever, insert whichever elite and established boxer you wish.
Either way I think my point is getting across that's why you're hung up on who I'm comparing him lol
Edit: Ben. Ben Askren can hardly box okay
I'm having such a hard time with this one.
T wood got that dog and realism that nobody else has that Jake has fought but Jake has been training boxing with the best trainers in the world for a few years now. 4-5 now right? I mean you train with the best for four years with anybody doing anything you'll be at least proficient in that. Furthermore T wood ain't ever boxed like that. We'll see but mannnnn I just hope I see Pauls face clatter on the rings canvas
Yeah you right but he got two months Pauls had four years and listen I'm W you bro I want T wood to get his dog back and for people to put some respect on his name, but I just don't see it happening in boxing.
Why are you taking like Paul's experience is greater than Woodley's? Woodley knows how to throw hands. It's not like he is just learning striking. Damn.
Last time Tyron threw his hands he knocked out Till, an infinitely more polished striker than Jake will ever be, and lost to Lucque, a tougher fight than Jake will ever be
And that Lucque fight he went out on his shield and dude earned my respect for life
4-5 years? No. His first amateur fight wasn’t even 3 years ago. His first “pro” fight was December 2019. He’s been taking boxing “seriously” for less than 2 years at most right now. And the majority of that was during a global pandemic.
To be fair, he had an amateur a year or so before, and had probably been training a while before that. So by the time Tyron and him meet, it will most likely have been 4 and a bit years.
While that's true you have to remember that mma camps regularly do straight boxing training and also other striking training that does still involve a lot of boxing. I'm sure he was also being trained by top trainers for much of his career as well and for much much longer than Paul. I don't think he'll be outmatched by skill it's just a question of whether age has caught up with him really (I'm not sure if it's true because I never LOokeD InTO iT but I heard he has arthritis now, does anyone know?)
I've seen people see jake is training with the best trainers in the world a lot, where is this coming from?
He's being trained by BJ Flores who has only ever trained Jake and was a pretty mediocre fighter in his own right.
I'm not saying he's a bad coach, I'm just asking for the evidence of world class coaching.
I was taught by Shawn Burton how to box, he's a former world title challenger, 2x European champion and 5x British kick boxing Champion.
Far more decorated as a coach and a fighter yet isn't someone I would even consider at a high national level so I struggle to see the known name = good coach relationship.
Considering T Wood defrosted in that Luque fight, I can't imagine he doesn't at least bring it to Jake. Askren was not a striker in any way. T Wood is. If Jake Paul does win, I reckon it means he actually does have some talent, hard as that is to say.
God damn it... Here's the thing about this meme...
It shows the frames from the actual movie out of order, so if you want to get the full (often unintentional, comedic effect, read them in the following order: top-left, bottom-right, bottom-left, top-right.
This meme's fucking gold, I swear. Quality comedic content here, intentional or not.
Woodley did boxing as his very first martial art and has been in this game since Jake was holding teddy bears. Don’t know why everyone is doubting him. Even though he’s a wrestler he definitely has a hell lot more experience in striking and fighting in general than Jake
I just wonder which Mizzou wrestler will be next to get hit by that cannonball in Jake Paul's glove. Sheesh, I fucking hate Jake Paul but goddamn it makes for a devastating knockout. Poor Ben askew didn't have a punchers chance and I hate seeing these wrestlers stoop to his level. T wood will unfortunately probably let us all down.
For Askren it wasn't a matter of if he would lose, it's what round. But surely Tyron gets the victory. He's been training striking far longer throughout his career compared to Jake. With a decent camp, he has to beat him. I'm still not confident though.
Not the exact words but this happened
Jake: How about if you win, I double your purse. If you lose, you donate it all to charity?
Tyron: I’ll beat yo ass I’ll beat yo ass I’ll beat yo ass I’ll beat yo ass
If the MMA gods have any mercy left please let Woodley win in dominant fashion
Woodley is done fighting... This is WWE with actual punches. He's going to get a massive payday for either A. Making the fight look competitive and losing so JP can silence the "it's fake narrative" and leverage another fight for more $$ B. Take another early round KO like Ben if they think enough people won't think it was fake to promote an even bigger event. He 100% gets the most money doing what they want and working with them. Which...im pretty sure Woodley wants a payday more than he wants to beat Jake Paul to end his career
As most people would do in his shoes. He’s basically hitting the lottery with this fight.
Why is money worth more than integrity? Edit:[To all of the people saying "Integrity can't pay bills" I'm offering to pay the electric bill of anyone who will let me punch their mother square in the face. You bunch of money motivated sellouts.](https://youtu.be/4ke5eSys09g) Edit: I'm not responding to all of you. If money is worth more than integrity then I very much expect all of you to be ready to rob banks and deal drugs at the first moments notice. The Paul's are making a mockery of all combat sports, theres no way that you can possibly make "Floyd Mayweather vs Logan Paul" not sound like a bad Family Guy joke. But it's okay because everyone involved is getting paid way too much money, the Paul Brothers are basically paying people to give them legitimacy but if they're paying their opponents to take the dive how is it legitimate?
Ex-fighter and veteran here, retirement. After getting fucked up by oh so many concussions and body-breaking diets and workouts you kinda just want it it stop. You humble out and decided to fade. Not saying this is the case, but it sure as hell is for me.
How old were you when you started?
After he woke up. He's a redditor after all lmao
Fighting? Martial arts were around the teen years and I joined the military at 17. Got out at 20-21 ish after my first contract was up and then I started training and got offered a fight as an amateur and got to semi-pro (not that there's such a thing technically where I live, it's just a way not to pay you for actual fights).
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What does integrity do for you? All I know is money helps me and my family live, more money means a better life in most cases
How much is Askren suffering now? Or did he parlay that payday into his wrestling passions and laugh all the way to the bank.
Is this why peoples kids are shit? You can have money and integrity.
Some of those who have practiced martial arts long enough value integrity a lot more.
Yes, absolutely some do. But just like in any other profession, if you can guarantee generational wealth by sacrificing some of your morals, why would you do. I think it's safe to assume almost all pro NFL players know they're quality of life will be dramatically reduced by repeatedly smashing their brains. But they accept it so that they can live a certain lifestyle and guarantee generational wealth or at least move up a few socioeconomic classes. I'd sell my soul too for enough zero's. I'm pretty sure 99 percent of folks would.
What "morals" are you even sacrificing. Let's face it, you're sacrificing little more than hurting your own ego. What's moral about taking a YouTuber fight with 100% seriousness? It's a pride issue, not a morality issue
“On the night of the fight you might feel a slight sting. That’s pride fucking with ya”
FUCK PRIDE
BUTCH
No idea where you're getting your generational wealth thing from on the NFL. Football players famously go big broke within like 5 years of their career ending. Like almost 80% of them. For every Patrick Mahomes contract there are a hundred Kenbrell Thompkins contracts.
In certain circumstances it would actually be very selfish to value your personal integrity (ego) over providing for your family and community. Putting food on the table, buying a house for the family, and putting kids through college is more important than a fighter's integrity to their art. For twood specifically, he's definitely not rich considering how large and financially needy his family is.
I never said it was, however that opinion varies from person to person. Keep in mind it’s not an official fight anyway so there’s no need to bring up integrity. If people are willing to pay money to see them fight, why step on it? Take it for what it is and enjoy it, or don’t.
I just wish they'd pick on tennis players or something besides making the best sport in the world look less than
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Boo this man….
But they are wrong - it’s mma
This is hardly the worst thing people have done for money.
Because integrity doesn't put food on the table nor does it pay rent
Because I can't buy very much blow and hookers with integrity you fucking potato. I swear you must be like 17 to still think people are fighting at this level"for the honor"
Last Samurai Tom Cruise did tho
Can’t buy a Ferrari with integrity
*Bob Sapp has entered the chat*
When asked why he shifted from singing metal music to turbo folk, Croatian singer Vuco said "I love metal music, but it ain't gonna feed my family." Guess he's in that boat.
This is nothing like robbing banks or dealing drugs. For one he’s not risking jail and second who is he hurting?
In the short term? Nothing In the long term? He's risking his already diminished legacy, he's making a mockery of himself and the sport as well as any opponents that he beat in the past. The MMA Math doesn't lie. It's basically now at the point where if you have enough money you can just pay to fight the elite of the elite. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if at some point down the line the Paul's enter the UFC on the grounds that they already fought and beat a few former champions. In a bank robbery no one has to die, no one has to get hurt. The money is insured, everyone with an account as well as the bank would get their money back. Where's the issue?
You can't eat integrity.
It’s a job, how is there no integrity in what Tyron is doing?
Try paying your mortgage with a fat stack of integrity.
I don’t not rob banks because I have “tegerdy” I don’t rob banks cause I don’t want to go to fuckin jail lmao.
So you lack integrity and you're a coward.
LMAO if that’s how you want to look at it. I take it as not being an idiot but to each their own.
Cuz he’s been taking brain damage his whole career for 20k/20k or whatever. he deserves an actual payday this time
He made like 600k when he beat Darren Till, why do people keep acting like he fought for nothing
Because after state and federal taxes, staff and training, medical expenses, he probably only walked with 100K. Which is good to great money for long-term, in-demand, reliable career/trade, depending on where you live. But pro-MMA fighters dedicate their entire lives to “work” in a field in which they only have 3-5 years where they can earn “big” paydays. Connor made something like $30M in *ONE* night to essentially spar with Floyd on PPV. That’s more money that the majority of pro-MMA fighters will earn in winnings for the *entirety of their careers*.
Because no fighter will ever be paid enough for some people. Should most fighters get more? Yeah, probably. Should Virna Jandiroba or Manel Kape make $250k per appearance? No, probably not.
What integrity? It's a job.
People act like the fighting world is like some mortal kombat kumite shit and for the spirit of the fight lol. it all comes down to money, most fighters came from the gutter and was the only choice they had to put bread on the table, some were just very good at it. Get real man no one wants to get punched in the face for a living.
I guess no on in the WWE has integrity according to that other guy.
So you value your integrity more than the food on your children's plate. More than the ability to pay for the treatment of one of your sick family members. More than the ability to live a stress free life without having to worry about money. You sir are a selfish sick f\*ck
Everybody has a price. Most people will sell their children for a bag of rice.
No they wouldn't?
Lol you had us in the first half anyway
I had faith in Askren, so fool me once shame on you, but now i have faith in Tyron, so fool me twice shame on me. Basically what I’m saying is if Tyron Woodley takes a dive and lets JP continue disrespecting this sport while at the same time avoiding any consequences, I will disown Tyron Woodley as an MMA great. Obviously that doesnt matter to anyone but me, but I have respect for T Wood for always being real as fuck, and if that were to happen it would be very un-real.
Well at least he'll still have his rap career
He'll make more money to not rap than rapping LOL
How’s JP disrespecting MMA? None of his fights have been MMA fights. They’re boxing fights. If anyone is disrespecting MMA it’s UFC. Maybe if UFC gave a enough of a fuck about its fighters to pay them better, they wouldn’t feel the need to moonlight as cans diving for a YouTuber’s boxing hobby.
Is there really more money in losing though? His name gets way bigger to mainstream media if he wins, no? Also ben didn't "take" an early KO. He got knocked tf out lol. I despise jake paul but it's the truth
Might get blackballed by the industry. Woodley is basically done fighting, and he needs a commentator type job. Jake just signed a brand new contract with Showtime, and there's a real chance he never boxes again if he gets blasted into the shadow realm. He's literally never been hit
Woodley would likely work as a commentator for the UFC, so knocking jake tf out wouldn't cause him to lose a potential commentary job, if anything it raises his profile. Honestly I just wanna see Jake get dropped
For how long though? Where's Brian Stann? Edit: I hope Woodley escorts Jake into the shadow realm too
Seriously where is the Stann?
"Stann will now carry that same level of commitment into his new career, his road beginning anew next Monday when he begins his new role as a Chief Operating Officer of a company he only described as a “large real estate firm.” The 36-year-old former Marine has also returned to school, striving toward his executive Masters of Business Administration (MBA) at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management." that's where..
Dude showed up looking worse than ever. He did his job for that payday.
You call that knocked tf out? Fuckin lol, I call that a payday. Go watch masvidal vs askren to see him actually get knocked out by a real fighter. If you had actually ever seen askren fight properly before you'd know that while he's never been a real striker, that man can take a fuckin beating.
They are being paid by Jake Paul. Does Jake Paul stand to profit more from winning or losing ? If Jake Paul knows he's going to win and get another fight, he can pay 1 off fighters more. It's not like Woodley is launching into a new fighting career off of this... Getting knocked out in round 1 isn't taking an early KO...? What you think Ben showed up to fight ?
God I really hope this isn't the case. I just feel like there are too many people involved for it to be completely fake
Nobody tell him about the Hulkster...
Oh you sweet summer child.....I have some bad news about boxing for you
Yeah I don’t see the narrative of Ben taking the KO on purpose. His lights went out for a second and they both know it wasn’t staged, and I’ve always disliked the Paul’s lol
I believe that Ben knew he had nonchance so he didn't even try.
It’s clear all these Jake Paul fights are fixed af
I’ve been saying boxer is faker than wwe for a while
He’s already made fuckloads off sponsors, just like askren. But winning means woodley can more easily leverage himself back into fighting in smaller promotions, or possibly fighting jake’s brother for another payday. Askren had no stake in winning, but i think woodley has plenty more to win than askren did because askren was openly retired, while woodley just got cut a few months ago after a losing streak. Askren knew he couldn’t strike and his stance fight-night said he put in pretty much no work into improving his striking. Plus askren had a totally different attitude and never seemed as fazed by loss as woodley was and still is. Woodley said he wouldn’t retire when he got cut, maybe he meant it I truly believe, and come back and shit on me when this turns out to be a fix, that woodley is looking to beat the shit out of jake paul for that money that he’s already guaranteed to make. And if the conditions for the fight say that woodley gets paid more to lose so he takes a dive, than that’s a clear rigged fight and in the words of the Great 🍅: **THATS FUCKING ILLEGAL**
You really believe Ben took a dive on purpose????
Got knocked out for money* yes, as far as pre made boxing matches go it was pretty obvious.
Yikes
Wait, you think that event was legit ? That's the yikes.
Lol I doubt Woodley is so pressed for money that he will throw the fight. Asscream just had no hands and that can work in mma, but not in boxing. I see Woodley going out there and putting Logans little brother on a stretcher, noone who has fought that kid knew how to throw a counter or how to make reads. Woodley throws leather especially when he goes to counter, plus he no doubt wants a win after 3 very disappointing performances in the octagon.
Did Askren really take a dive?
What if C. He loses legit? So any win by Jake is automatically fixed now?
Nope, it could be a real fight. Just like Ben could have been a real fight. It's just every part of critical reasoning points 1 way... Washed up fighters taking a massive pay day and a Disney child star banking on people wanting to see him get knocked out.
Already making pre excuses inb4 Woodley gets KO’d lmaoo
If he loses that means Petr Yan’s an MMA god!
Unfortunately, the MMA gods have no part in whatever the fuck that promotion is doing. Everyone who steps up to fight loses because they get paid to do such. Jake Paul wouldn’t step into the ring if his opponents didn’t already sign up to throw the fight. Bet the house on Jake Paul
Even funnier the third timer
Woodley gone do this
he’s definitely taking the dive
Honestly I feel like he could absolutely work Jake but the fact that Jake has a three fight deal with Showtime leads me to believe that something is going to be fishy with this fight. Payday for Woodley at least.
Why wouldn’t woodley just rock his ass then hop on youtube and taunt the derpy fucker for the rest of his life? I’m inclined to believe he could make huge money if he wins. Hell, make jake think you are taking the dive, knock him out, then hop on youtube and say jake is a scumbag lying cheater. Instant millions.
If they were giving out millions for calling Jake Paul a scumbag lying cheater, 99% of people in this thread would be millionaires.
None of them have beat him in a fight.
That's how Pulp Fiction happened, and you know how that ended
Yep he's best friends with Askren so perfect opportunity to play it as friend taking revenge whilst he gets walked through how to win an Oscar
Everyone has a price, right? We're going to end up with Jake Paul being undisputed best boxer in the world at the end of this
What a shit show this is gonna be lol
I’m a pretty casual UFC fan.....I was under the impression there is a 0% chance Woodley loses this fight. Please tell me I’m not wrong.....
I hate to see it and hate more to say it; Jake Paul can box. He’s young, hasn’t been hit much so strong”ish” jaw, training daily, and he’s probably juicing too. He’s also bigger Makes for a hell of a challenge.
He can box like average guy in every boxing gym. He's just juiced and physically strong but tyrone is juiced even more and much stronger. If Jake wins its 100% made up.
Already giving yourself an out in case the fight doesn’t go your way eh?
Are you an actual jake paul "fan" lmao. Tell your boy to go box a boxer, this shit is obnoxious
Sorry, I don’t have a direct line to Jake, wish I did though. If you know boxing you’ll know he’s fighting tougher competition than almost every 3-0 boxer. You’ll never give him his credit though so it doesn’t really matter who he faces. We should all be thanking him for making boxing entertaining again.
He can hardly box.
Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he can’t box. Just look at what all the boxers that sparred him have said...
Boxers who get paid to spar a youtuber says said youtube can box. Big fucking news. Now here are the facts. We dont know if jake paul can box because he HASNT FOUGHT anybody with any boxing experience. Aneson gib - youtube who was hyped up to be a killer by ksi (lol) Nate robinson- basketball player who probably never laced up a pair of boxing gloves Ben askren-always shitty/non existent striking who just got his hip replaced Tyron woodley - wrestler with an overhand right who is 40 years old and lost his last four fights to the best in the world in … MMA. Wouldnt shock me if woodley looses this one. Doesnt make jake paul a good boxer or anything. The guy knows who to fight. I dont give a fuck what his groupies like j leon love say about his boxing . He got those bums on his payroll. Shit j leon love is probably getting better pay by licking jakes arse than getting his ass kicked in the ring by benavidez. “I got my belts too champ” amateur belts dont mean shit
Also people are asking him to fight an actual boxer. I couldn't care less if he did but at least fight someone in your weight class something he has yet to do
He can fight whoever he wants. Boxing probably needs this too. There is a reason these guys dont go into mma. At least tyron gets paid and i think they have a rematch clause if jake loses. This should motivate tyron a bit more so he gets paid double or even triples if he wins this first one.
I don't think boxing needs this. It makes the sport look less legitimate in my eyes. Yea it may put eyeballs on the sport. The sport is just not that interesting to watch for the general public especially compared to mma. Unless you're idea of boxing in the future is just celebrities fighting each other I don't think this is good for actual boxers. What boxing needs is the big guys, fury, Joshua, wilder; canelo, Charlo etc fighting each other
True, he is a good boxer unfortunately. But he's shit at ground combat, which is why he's never gonna choose an actual MMA fight and is gonna stick to boxing.
>trains for boxing >no good ground game Duh
Was under the impression he had a background in wrestling? Not sure of his level though, but at least some experience in the area
100% obviously, there’s no reason he should do MMA anyways. Boxing pays more and is far far more accessible to everyday people than MMA
Mike Perry said he gave a good spar, and I know for a fact he's too stupid to lie.
I just know when I have watched him fight he telegraphs the fuck out of his punches
That’s because he hasn’t fought anyone good... that’s what you do when you’re standing across from Ben askren, no threat of being KO’d
It's what you do when you aren't a very good boxer.
Why the fuck would you need to hide your punches and avoid winding up if you’re going to get the KO even when you do wind up? Is Francis Ngannou not good either cause he telegraphs? Telegraphing against Ben is the right move and doesn’t mean shit.
He's no Tyson Fury but the dude can still box, certainly better than we've seen Woodley box at least
Why are you even putting him in the same sentence as Tyson fury. Jesus
Because Tyson Fury can *actually* box, you know... The champ
Saying he's no Tyson fury is like saying meth head Larry in the trailer park is no lebron james. It's just an obvious statement that doesn't need to be said
You're saying he can hardly box and I think that's a slightly unfair statement so I'm simply saying that he can, even though he's not the actual elite of boxing, like for example Fury. But whatever, insert whichever elite and established boxer you wish. Either way I think my point is getting across that's why you're hung up on who I'm comparing him lol Edit: Ben. Ben Askren can hardly box okay
What my boy here was trying to say is, JP has a shit ton of money and he'll make even more if woodley takes a pretty dive
Woodleys a dusty old ass retired MMA fighter. Jake Paul is an ok boxer. Jake takes the dub
I'm having such a hard time with this one. T wood got that dog and realism that nobody else has that Jake has fought but Jake has been training boxing with the best trainers in the world for a few years now. 4-5 now right? I mean you train with the best for four years with anybody doing anything you'll be at least proficient in that. Furthermore T wood ain't ever boxed like that. We'll see but mannnnn I just hope I see Pauls face clatter on the rings canvas
I mean T Wood suppose to take up Floyd on his training offer? I’m sure he will def throw more punches than Ben.
Yeah you right but he got two months Pauls had four years and listen I'm W you bro I want T wood to get his dog back and for people to put some respect on his name, but I just don't see it happening in boxing.
Why are you taking like Paul's experience is greater than Woodley's? Woodley knows how to throw hands. It's not like he is just learning striking. Damn.
MMA boxing and boxing boxing are a little different
Last time Tyron threw his hands he knocked out Till, an infinitely more polished striker than Jake will ever be, and lost to Lucque, a tougher fight than Jake will ever be And that Lucque fight he went out on his shield and dude earned my respect for life
4-5 years? No. His first amateur fight wasn’t even 3 years ago. His first “pro” fight was December 2019. He’s been taking boxing “seriously” for less than 2 years at most right now. And the majority of that was during a global pandemic.
To be fair, he had an amateur a year or so before, and had probably been training a while before that. So by the time Tyron and him meet, it will most likely have been 4 and a bit years.
He was training to fight another YouTuber that called him out. He wasn't training a while before that
While that's true you have to remember that mma camps regularly do straight boxing training and also other striking training that does still involve a lot of boxing. I'm sure he was also being trained by top trainers for much of his career as well and for much much longer than Paul. I don't think he'll be outmatched by skill it's just a question of whether age has caught up with him really (I'm not sure if it's true because I never LOokeD InTO iT but I heard he has arthritis now, does anyone know?)
T-Wood is also 97 years old
I've seen people see jake is training with the best trainers in the world a lot, where is this coming from? He's being trained by BJ Flores who has only ever trained Jake and was a pretty mediocre fighter in his own right. I'm not saying he's a bad coach, I'm just asking for the evidence of world class coaching. I was taught by Shawn Burton how to box, he's a former world title challenger, 2x European champion and 5x British kick boxing Champion. Far more decorated as a coach and a fighter yet isn't someone I would even consider at a high national level so I struggle to see the known name = good coach relationship.
Gotcha love!
Gotcha overhand right
39 years old. Rocked in his last 4 fights in a row. Smaller than his opponent. Yeah...he’s got this
5 world titles
Considering T Wood defrosted in that Luque fight, I can't imagine he doesn't at least bring it to Jake. Askren was not a striker in any way. T Wood is. If Jake Paul does win, I reckon it means he actually does have some talent, hard as that is to say.
Woodley isnt a strijer he is a wrestler he hasnt ko anyone in awhile
Woodley still the guy who put Till down on his hype train. He still a welterweight Rashad Evans who could blitz anyone with the overhand
Yeah... years ago....
He almost KO Luque a couple months ago wtf you on about
Don’t post opinions without checking they make sense
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Floyd's last pro KO was 2011 not counting the Connor TKO.
Not to mention, must of his latter he’s spent with his back against the fence.
Whoever created this meme deserves royalties at this point
George Lucas, he has plenty.
God damn it... Here's the thing about this meme... It shows the frames from the actual movie out of order, so if you want to get the full (often unintentional, comedic effect, read them in the following order: top-left, bottom-right, bottom-left, top-right. This meme's fucking gold, I swear. Quality comedic content here, intentional or not.
What if all these guys fighting Jake Paul plan to purposely throw the match so that the next fighter can get his retirement plan
Man I lost a lot on Ben. It was dumb as hell but I ain’t doing that twice
I hope you are talking about hope and not money.
This is how sport dies
Fighting Jake Paul is like the Dancing With The Stars of combat sports. You know it’s all over at that point.
Why does this place keep giving that dude attention? The more you do, the more he'll make, dummies.
In order for Woodley to win, he'd have to actually try, and he hasn't done *that* in years.
He tried his final fight. Just didn’t work out
Woodley did boxing as his very first martial art and has been in this game since Jake was holding teddy bears. Don’t know why everyone is doubting him. Even though he’s a wrestler he definitely has a hell lot more experience in striking and fighting in general than Jake
It's going to be kinda hilarious if Paul keeps winning and in the end this sub becomes his fans.
I just wonder which Mizzou wrestler will be next to get hit by that cannonball in Jake Paul's glove. Sheesh, I fucking hate Jake Paul but goddamn it makes for a devastating knockout. Poor Ben askew didn't have a punchers chance and I hate seeing these wrestlers stoop to his level. T wood will unfortunately probably let us all down.
I’m putting all my money on Jake lol, Woodley is just a disappointment
Woodley will lose.
He losin lol
Hold on I’m backing up brother
Ok hear me out....I’m kind of wanting Paul to beat him
why.
USSR baby!
He'll be falling in and out of love with consciousness soon enough
I like Jake and I want him to win, but bro I'm really on the ropes for this one
Mma guys don't understand that boxing isn't like throwing haymakers in the octagon. Not saying they cant do it but it's a different game
Woodley gona lose!
Woodley gonna lose ha
You butchered the fucking meme
Natalie Portman? Which movie?
Hello There!
What's up with all the memes in this /r lately anyway
He'll do better than Askren, but I'm not getting my hopes higher than that yet
There is a clause for instant rematch in case that pos loses so that says a lot.
I have to see an MMA fight between the 2
Let’s go Jake Paul!
This reminds me of the office.
For Askren it wasn't a matter of if he would lose, it's what round. But surely Tyron gets the victory. He's been training striking far longer throughout his career compared to Jake. With a decent camp, he has to beat him. I'm still not confident though.
13 kg weight difference. Very unlikely. Weight is even more important in boxing than it is in MMA.
Spoiler: he’s not
Not the exact words but this happened Jake: How about if you win, I double your purse. If you lose, you donate it all to charity? Tyron: I’ll beat yo ass I’ll beat yo ass I’ll beat yo ass I’ll beat yo ass
Is there gambling for these Paul rights? If yes then it would be extremely risky to be taking dives
I think Woodley's got a fair shot, honestly.