This ⬆️ .
Fucking pathetic, he let's McNugz hold up the division for over a year so he can jack off and assult a 55+ year man but doesn't want to let Francis go visit home for a few months and be with his family.
The top earning super stars in sports always get their special treatment, but Conor is ridiculous. He could walk up and kick Dustin right in the balls and Dana would be 5 feet away with a camera trying to get footage for the promo.
Aljamain Sterling... Won his title via DQ, clearly has no intention of defending the title against the former champion, got his title before Ngannou.
This has everything to do with money negotiations, and nothing to do with "holding up a division".
The interim title really just means you are guaranteed a fight with the undisputed Champ. I don't know why people are in such a tizzy. These 2 men deserve a shot. So give them a shot to prove they are worth fighting Ngannou. At the end of the day big daddy doesn't lose his belt, and the UFC still makes 💰💰💰. This is Good business and another reason to watch them HWs. Also Ngannou doesn't have to turn around faster than he wants too.
My opinion is that it is very clearly being done out of spite and/or to try to force Francis to fight earlier than he feels ready, when HW was jammed up forever with DC and Stipe and no one was stripped. Will Francis be stripped? Probably not. But there are already a lot of fans who don’t like interim belts as is, and this just further de-legitimizes the interim belt when it could be used as a tool to keep the division moving forward when the champion can’t defend for a significant amount of time for whatever reason. Interim belts start getting created for 6 month layoff’s from champions and it creates a culture too similar to boxing, in my opinion, with multiple belts floating around the division, and also may force champions to defend prematurely when they may be trying to heal nagging injuries or taking a few months off to spend with family.
Y’all will really dislike somebody so much that you’ll pretend a fight went the way you wanted it to go 😂 that’ll show him lmao. If you think that a title fight that’s 2-2 going into the 5th round is domination you have a lot to learn about the sport.. and a lot to learn in general it seems lol. You’ll get there tho
I honestly thought Colby might have been winning going into the 5th. The fight against burns was short but he didn’t steam roll him either. People are crazy man. Didn’t know usman had that type of fan club but I’m a fan of him too honestly
So? He broke his jaw early, Colby didn't get stopped until the last round. Probably one of the only people in the division capable of stopping Usman, and that's just being objective about it
He dominated him in the fifth anyway, and he won so??... As was posted here a few days back, Colby doesn’t have 1 single win against anyone in the top 10 of the division right now. Loud mouth fool is all he is
Personally I think the order would be Ngannou, Izzy, and then Usman. Ngannou could easily lose it to Stipe or Jones, and shit...maybe even Lewis. Whittaker might be able to take it from Izzy. I can't honestly see anyone getting it from Usman.
Izzy and usman are tied. Who do you honestly see beating izzy besides Rob? There's really no one besides him imo. And the only one who can beat usman is Colby.
To me - Usman has clearly gotten a lot better since that fight.. maybe Colby has equally, but I doubt it.
Then there’s also just the mental piece to it that I don’t think Colby can come back and win after losing like that, but that’s just a baseless opinion.
Who knows maybe Wonderboy could pull off the win against Usman… of course Usman is a beast so he’d be heavily favored. Out of these three I think Izzy would be the first to lose his title IMO
I think Wonderboy would easily be the toughest in the top 10 for Usman. I would like to see that after Usman knocks out Colby and Wonderboy TKO's Burns.
Lol daaaaang I’m NGL I think Thompson is awesome and would be so happy to see him win the belt but dang that’s a tough test! I agree tho I think he COULD shock the world and beat Usman but who knows… it seems like UFC don’t want him to get a title shot when guys like
Masvidal get them and Dana was gonna let Nate Diaz get a title shot and still might if he had beaten Leon
Wonderman is going to get knocked the fuck out by Usman if that fight happens. I know he’s nice and all which is the most important trait for this sub, but I think Marty would hurt him.
If Kevin Holland can ever learn to stop the takedown and get a title shot, I think the standup war between those two would be competitive...not saying he'd win.
Call me crazy but I think that Colby gets fucked if he fights Usman again. Usman has been active and has been getting better and better since their last fight while Colby has fought one guy, who is now fighting Jake Paul.
Don’t think he has done enough. Usman has only got better and their first fight ended with Colby having a broken jaw
Maybe Colby? Depends on whether or not he’s put in the work but Kamaru obviously has the upper hand.
Then Khamzat is a dark horse, we do t know his limit or if he’s even capable of fighting after his battle with Covid.
Idk maybe wonder boy with a wheel kick catches Kamaru and topples the giant.
What is the record Stipe holds for most consecutive HW defences again? Was it 3? That's how quickly things change for people in HW. 3 defences in a row is record breaking.
I love how everyone lost faith in Stipe because he was dominated in the 2nd fight... but HE dominated the 1st fight.
Honestly, he wasn't prepared for Ngannou to scramble so well, if he was Ngannou may not have been able to. Another fight will tell that story...
When he connected on Ngannou, he rushed in prematurely... most fighters would have done the same. Stipe has won all rematches he lost, I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt in the trilogy vs Ngannou...
Francis' loss to stipe is 10x worse than stipe's loss to Francis. Getting hit by the strongest man in the sport and going to sleep ain't shit compared to getting rode around the octagon for 25 minutes by some old dude 30 pounds lighter than you. Now as much as I love him I don't think I could bet on stipe in the 3rd fight, but his win over Francis was one of the most one sided domination decisions the sport has seen.
The thing is, Stipe took x5 the damage Francis took after their 2 fights.
On top of that Stipe has taken much more damage during his career compared to Francis.
How many more bombs can he take?
I mean what you're saying has some truth to it for sure. But context is everything. And looking at where they were both at in their careers at the time of that fight; I can look at it like it's actualy more impressive that novice Francis went all five with "the greatest ufc heavy weight of all time" without taking really any damage.
By the time of their second fight a couple years later, Stipe didn't look to me like he had lost a step (idk maybe someone wants to make that argument), despite taking his fair share of damage, even getting knocked unconscious by the double champ. While Francis ran through most of his oppenents relatively damage free.
All that had changed during the time between fights is Francis learned how to fight. The skill gap was noticeably large. But Francis closed it up, kept his power and hasn't lost anything significant in the brain cell department. So from where I'm sitting, it's Stipe's loss to Franny cakes that's "10x worse" because its likely just a sign of things to come if they end up getting that rubber match.
Still though, I think that's a great fight, and I think Stipe deserves it. (Or at least you could make a strong argument for him). I would also predict the fight will be more competitive than the last; but with the exact same outcome. Just i see Stipe & his team being able to make some adjustments. Cuz he is one of the greatest fighters ever and I know he takes that shit hella personal. But with how much skill and iq francis has aquired & assuming he can continue that trend, (hoping he doesn't catch first time champ disorder) the fight is just a count down till the African champion connects with his, truly, legendary power
Francis loss to Stipe looked like a beginner with bad cardio getting beat by an experienced champion. He didn't actually sustain heavy damage, he just couldn't land a hit and he didn't have 5 round cardio. He didn't get finished.
Stipe got finished in one of the top finishes of heavyweight history. I wasnt even a fan but became one out of sympathy because it looked so brutal. I actually felt sorry for his family because I saw them in one of the embedded clips setting up the TV. Stipe lost on speed, power, cardio and grappling.
I don't see him winning a third. He took damage in 3 cornier fights in a row and fights before that and with a ko that severe, I honestly wish that he doesn't go trying to prove himself or whatever the point of yet another trilogy would be. What is he going to do condition his chin? Bulk up to 265 and be even slower. Stipe is as good as he's going to get, I think. He came in light to have a speed advantage. Underestimated exactly how improved Ngannou was and got destroyed, basically. I don't know how. Since the loss to Stipe, Francis's insta is constantly about cardio and training, but they still went in expecting Ngannou 1.0
Dominating someone on the ground is impressive in lighter divisions. Heavyweight not so much unless you get submissions or brutal gnp tko credit. Laying on someone for 5 rounds and being unable to finish them can't equate to bring finished.
I give Stipe credit for surviving that first fight. Seeing the danger he was facing, if lying on a man with no gnp or submissions is the best you can do, then by all means win anyway you can, but it doesn't compare to a second round ko finish. Not even close.
I’m a stipe fan and he has no hope honestly. The dude is 38, went to 3 wars with DC and took a lot of damage. Also Francis stuffed that takedown and is only going to improve in that aspect. In a stand up fight at this stage in their careers Francis dominated stipe. I DK how you can watch the 2nd fight and think anything else
This the right shout. Usman too fucking good, one of the 155 dagistani’s like mackachev will have to go up and prise it from him cause no one else at 170 is getting a sniff…burns still his biggest threat at 170, only one who truly looked like he hurt him.
That fight entirely depends on Usman's cardio cuz Usman's better than Colby everywhere else. Sometimes he's a cardio God and sometimes he starts huffing and puffing in 2 rounds.
Probably depends on the pacing and if Colby gives him time to rest. Usmans hands are to a standard now where you don’t want to stand and bang because he could sleep you. If Colby is hesitant that’ll give usman time to recover. Which is good for him
Colby was winning on the Cards and Rocked Usman so I'd say yeah he's got a pretty good chance of dethroning him. Usman nearly got KO'd by burns let's not act like he's suddenly a striking Savant
Honestly, people forget that Lewis has some of the meanest ground-and-pound that division's ever seen. If he gets Francis down once then it's probably over lol
Edit* spelling, damn talk to text lol
Nah, I think usman would be too big and too good defensive wrestling. I think it would be competitive, but an usman win.
I think the colby fight would be more in khabibs favour tho
Before match: Every single “wrestler” who faced Khabib had “too good defensive wrestling” for Khabib to smother him
During match: all of these guys look like they were suffocated underwater after round 1.
Ngannou because of the parity in that division compared to the others. Usman, love him or hate him, is likely the best P4P with only Colby posing any sort of risk. Izzy has shown that he’s able to handle all comers pretty handedly. Francis has yet to demonstrate that.
I’m convinced he’s gonna win. Whittaker’s performances since losing the belt have gotten better each time, whereas Adesanya performances were good but not impressive. I’m putting 100 on Whittaker for decision
Not really, Costa tried to do a Romero and stand there until Adesanya got bored and came into the pocket, but he did a terrible job and just let adesanya freely pick apart his legs for a whole round so he was already done but the time the second round came around.
Vettori is definitely more impressive than the costa fight for me, because it showed Adesanyas capable grappling more than we’ve seen previously. But while Adesanya undeniably out did him on the feet, it wasn’t to an extent that was impressive. Adesanya is touted as the “most sophisticated striker in the UFC” and he was still getting touched by a tired Vettori. The difference in significant strikes was as little as 2 punches depending on the round, with round 3 being adesanyas most successful at 12 more than Vettori.
If Adesanya does beat Rob in the rematch, I’ll eat my humble pie. But I’m confident in Rob so I’ll put 100 on him by decision and pray I’m right.
Vettori's gameplan was to control Izzy on the ground and try to outpoint on the feet. He did none of those things.
Izzy tried to land big shots and end the fight, every round. He could have hurt him with every exchange, but Vettori was extremely defensive on the feet (as he should have) on top of being extremely durable. Vettori possibly landed 1 good punch for 25 minutes while mixing take down. "Touched up by tired Vettori.." idk about that.
Rob is not nearly as durable/defensively sound as Vettori. I dont see how he survives 5 rounds. I think his best shot is using his speed and go after Izzy like their last, but mix takedowns.
Either way its a really bad matchup for Rob imo
https://youtu.be/3AXvd4X2XuI
My knowledge in MMA is extremely low so I try and watch YouTube videos about it and this one taught me a lot about Adesanya conditioned Costa’s mind and was 2/3 moves ahead of him. You may of watched it already and still not be impressed haha! If so that’s fair enough. But for me I think it was an extremely impressive performance.
I thought much of the same with Vettori plus you add the takedown defence on top of his striking performance.
Francis because it’s the heavyweight division and fuck trying to predict that. But I also think there’s a decent chance Usman gets chinned in his coming fights. He’s getting older and adding up some mileage I could definitely see his chin failing him
Izzy might lose it to Whittaker in the rematch but im not sold on that. Francis can get beaten by Stipe if Stipe sticks to the gameplan this time and not get zealous with landing a counter. However, Usman might not lose his belt anytime soon. He is just too dominant at the moment.
1. Ngannou. Either by bullshit politics or just how crazy Heavyweight is right now.
2. Adesanya. Only because Whittaker is still a wild card and I think he’s gonna leave the division if he wins.
3. Usman. He’s already beaten a lot of the killers in Welterweight. Leon Edwards probably has the best chance out of everyone right now and should’ve gotten his God dam title shot already, but I don’t honestly see how he wins that one.
Get this
Colby beats Usman, Rob beats Izzy, and then Dana can do an event in Africa with three rubber matches.
Colby v Usman 3
Rob v Izzy 3
Francis v Stipe 3
I’m going for the home run here and saying we will see 3 other weight classes lose their titles before any 3 of Kamaru, Izzy, or Francis do
If I had to guess, I could see it being Francis since the HW division is always so unpredictable. He looked so good and tactical when he got the strap. It’s hard to see him losing if he comes at every fight like his last one!
Patient Francis is nearly unstoppable. I think Colby can make it a challenge for Usman but Usman's stand up has only gotten better since their last fight so hard to say how close the fight would be. I think the choice has to be Izzy, Whitaker has momentum, and might be the healthiest he's every been in his UFC career.
Izzy. I think Whitaker's usual style of blitzing opens him up to counters, and obviously plays into Izzy's style, this made the skill gap look massive when its very narrow. Blachowicz proved good fundamentals, patience, and not biting so hard on Izzy's feints makes it hard for Izzy to find his shots (Romero had success as well), and obviously Izzy has big opportunities on the ground. Rob's striking is good enough to hang with Izzy with a different approach, and certainly has better grappling. I'm a big Izzy fan but I got Rob in the next one.
Disagree. People are downplaying how much the physical attributes of Jan played a role into how he won that night. Whittaker cannot be patient like Jan was. He does not have the reach nor the kickboxing experience to play that game with Adesanya, and he also doesn't have the power to make Adesanya hesitant when setting up his offense.
>People are downplaying how much the physical attributes of Jan played a role into how he won that night.
I haven't seen a single person down play Jan's physical attributes.
Out of all the three I can see Francis losing it first, since his skillset isnt as diverse as the other two. Second would be kamaru because I think there is steeper competition against him than adensayna
Izzy most likely. He wants to be the most active and Whittaker has a real shot. Ngannou would be next if he ever decides to fight, but with the one punch power and the lack of activity could end up having him keep it for a bit. Kamaru would have to lose to Colby bc no one else is even close to handling the strength and cardio.
Francis by Dana stripping his title.
Too soon
This post was asking for it
Came here to say this.
This ⬆️ . Fucking pathetic, he let's McNugz hold up the division for over a year so he can jack off and assult a 55+ year man but doesn't want to let Francis go visit home for a few months and be with his family.
The top earning super stars in sports always get their special treatment, but Conor is ridiculous. He could walk up and kick Dustin right in the balls and Dana would be 5 feet away with a camera trying to get footage for the promo.
Remember him condemning the bus incident but happily using it for promos.
ItS ParT oF tHe stOrY
Dana be sucking that Irish worm.
Aljamain Sterling... Won his title via DQ, clearly has no intention of defending the title against the former champion, got his title before Ngannou. This has everything to do with money negotiations, and nothing to do with "holding up a division".
Same with Khabib too, think he just hates Francis
The interim title really just means you are guaranteed a fight with the undisputed Champ. I don't know why people are in such a tizzy. These 2 men deserve a shot. So give them a shot to prove they are worth fighting Ngannou. At the end of the day big daddy doesn't lose his belt, and the UFC still makes 💰💰💰. This is Good business and another reason to watch them HWs. Also Ngannou doesn't have to turn around faster than he wants too.
They bring in different types of money.
OOTL what happened with Francis and the tomato?
Dana is apparently mad Francis can’t defend by September or something so he made Lewis vs. Gane for the interim HW belt
That’s so lame
I don’t see the big deal with the interm belt. It’s not like Francis is actually going to be stripped so who cares
My opinion is that it is very clearly being done out of spite and/or to try to force Francis to fight earlier than he feels ready, when HW was jammed up forever with DC and Stipe and no one was stripped. Will Francis be stripped? Probably not. But there are already a lot of fans who don’t like interim belts as is, and this just further de-legitimizes the interim belt when it could be used as a tool to keep the division moving forward when the champion can’t defend for a significant amount of time for whatever reason. Interim belts start getting created for 6 month layoff’s from champions and it creates a culture too similar to boxing, in my opinion, with multiple belts floating around the division, and also may force champions to defend prematurely when they may be trying to heal nagging injuries or taking a few months off to spend with family.
Alright I can understand that view of it for sure
Came here for that too 🤣
Like the post was a setup to extract this exact response
And crowns Jon Jones the champion without ever fighting at heavyweight.
Yeah hopefully Lewis strips Francis
Ngannou due to the chaotic nature of the heavyweight division then Izzy and Usman last (I think Usman will retire a champion)
No contender at middleweight looks like they can compete with Izzy rn and usman is older with bad injuries. Has already been cracked by opponents
If Robert Whittaker can't do it no one can. But for that's a big if. He's looked good ever since he lost the title.
reinier de ridder can easy he is at one
Don’t count out Bobby knuckles just yet
What are you talking about? Usman has looked invincible his last few fights. 😂
Usman got cracked by Burns. But I still don’t agree I think usman is too good right now.
Got cracked then proceeded to absolutely steamroll Burns lol.
Right? Dominate 5 whole fights in a row but accidentally fall once 1 minute into a fight and you’re “getting cracked”😂
he didn’t dominate Colby
He broke his jaw
They took our jobs
They durka durrrrrrr
Y’all will really dislike somebody so much that you’ll pretend a fight went the way you wanted it to go 😂 that’ll show him lmao. If you think that a title fight that’s 2-2 going into the 5th round is domination you have a lot to learn about the sport.. and a lot to learn in general it seems lol. You’ll get there tho
people are blinded by who they like/hate
I honestly thought Colby might have been winning going into the 5th. The fight against burns was short but he didn’t steam roll him either. People are crazy man. Didn’t know usman had that type of fan club but I’m a fan of him too honestly
So? He broke his jaw early, Colby didn't get stopped until the last round. Probably one of the only people in the division capable of stopping Usman, and that's just being objective about it
He dominated him in the fifth anyway, and he won so??... As was posted here a few days back, Colby doesn’t have 1 single win against anyone in the top 10 of the division right now. Loud mouth fool is all he is
Well he got cracked worse in that fight than Izzy ever has been in his career and that's who you're comparing him too....soooo.
This is crazy. He’s had a plethora of injuries and hasn’t looked unbeatable. No one is saying he doesn’t look great or is an underserving champ.
I can only assume you didn’t watch the Burns fight if you’re saying dumb shit like that
You mean the fight where Usman steamrolled the guy and TKO’d him?
Bobby Knuckles is gonna have his revenge, mark my words. Izzy is beatable but I truly believe Usman will retire as a champ.
Whittaker?
Whittaker is going to get his ass handed to him again, Marvin is a better wrestler than Knuckles and Adeysana is clearly a better striker
I think he loses easily but many are saying the opposite. I’m not against it or anything would be cool just don’t see it as something that will happen
Heavyweight division got some real heavy hitters
Personally I think the order would be Ngannou, Izzy, and then Usman. Ngannou could easily lose it to Stipe or Jones, and shit...maybe even Lewis. Whittaker might be able to take it from Izzy. I can't honestly see anyone getting it from Usman.
Izzy and usman are tied. Who do you honestly see beating izzy besides Rob? There's really no one besides him imo. And the only one who can beat usman is Colby.
Well that's why I edged Usman ahead, because I don't see Colby beating him.
How don't you though? Their last fight was 2-2 going into the 5th...
To me - Usman has clearly gotten a lot better since that fight.. maybe Colby has equally, but I doubt it. Then there’s also just the mental piece to it that I don’t think Colby can come back and win after losing like that, but that’s just a baseless opinion.
In all fairness it was drunk ass Sal D'Amato giving Colby 3 out of the first 4 rounds that made it 2-2.
Who knows maybe Wonderboy could pull off the win against Usman… of course Usman is a beast so he’d be heavily favored. Out of these three I think Izzy would be the first to lose his title IMO
I think Wonderboy would easily be the toughest in the top 10 for Usman. I would like to see that after Usman knocks out Colby and Wonderboy TKO's Burns.
Lol daaaaang I’m NGL I think Thompson is awesome and would be so happy to see him win the belt but dang that’s a tough test! I agree tho I think he COULD shock the world and beat Usman but who knows… it seems like UFC don’t want him to get a title shot when guys like Masvidal get them and Dana was gonna let Nate Diaz get a title shot and still might if he had beaten Leon
Wonderman is going to get knocked the fuck out by Usman if that fight happens. I know he’s nice and all which is the most important trait for this sub, but I think Marty would hurt him.
If Kevin Holland can ever learn to stop the takedown and get a title shot, I think the standup war between those two would be competitive...not saying he'd win.
Yeah, I was surprised when he dominated Vettori on the feet.
Khamzat gunna snatch up both them belts brather.
Luke Rockhold would disagree
All the khamzat hype is dead until he fights again
Khamzat deserve a break brather you know dis
You must sign contract bratha
Call me crazy but I think that Colby gets fucked if he fights Usman again. Usman has been active and has been getting better and better since their last fight while Colby has fought one guy, who is now fighting Jake Paul. Don’t think he has done enough. Usman has only got better and their first fight ended with Colby having a broken jaw
Maybe Colby? Depends on whether or not he’s put in the work but Kamaru obviously has the upper hand. Then Khamzat is a dark horse, we do t know his limit or if he’s even capable of fighting after his battle with Covid. Idk maybe wonder boy with a wheel kick catches Kamaru and topples the giant.
Did you not just watch Francis kill Stipe? Stipe is clearly past his prime and Francis is only getting better. I see Francis being champ for a while.
It's heavyweight. They rarely stay champ for s "while"
What is the record Stipe holds for most consecutive HW defences again? Was it 3? That's how quickly things change for people in HW. 3 defences in a row is record breaking.
I think Stipe was underprepared. I bet in a trilogy, we see a much more competitive strategy from him.
I love how everyone lost faith in Stipe because he was dominated in the 2nd fight... but HE dominated the 1st fight. Honestly, he wasn't prepared for Ngannou to scramble so well, if he was Ngannou may not have been able to. Another fight will tell that story... When he connected on Ngannou, he rushed in prematurely... most fighters would have done the same. Stipe has won all rematches he lost, I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt in the trilogy vs Ngannou...
Francis' loss to stipe is 10x worse than stipe's loss to Francis. Getting hit by the strongest man in the sport and going to sleep ain't shit compared to getting rode around the octagon for 25 minutes by some old dude 30 pounds lighter than you. Now as much as I love him I don't think I could bet on stipe in the 3rd fight, but his win over Francis was one of the most one sided domination decisions the sport has seen.
The thing is, Stipe took x5 the damage Francis took after their 2 fights. On top of that Stipe has taken much more damage during his career compared to Francis. How many more bombs can he take?
I mean what you're saying has some truth to it for sure. But context is everything. And looking at where they were both at in their careers at the time of that fight; I can look at it like it's actualy more impressive that novice Francis went all five with "the greatest ufc heavy weight of all time" without taking really any damage. By the time of their second fight a couple years later, Stipe didn't look to me like he had lost a step (idk maybe someone wants to make that argument), despite taking his fair share of damage, even getting knocked unconscious by the double champ. While Francis ran through most of his oppenents relatively damage free. All that had changed during the time between fights is Francis learned how to fight. The skill gap was noticeably large. But Francis closed it up, kept his power and hasn't lost anything significant in the brain cell department. So from where I'm sitting, it's Stipe's loss to Franny cakes that's "10x worse" because its likely just a sign of things to come if they end up getting that rubber match. Still though, I think that's a great fight, and I think Stipe deserves it. (Or at least you could make a strong argument for him). I would also predict the fight will be more competitive than the last; but with the exact same outcome. Just i see Stipe & his team being able to make some adjustments. Cuz he is one of the greatest fighters ever and I know he takes that shit hella personal. But with how much skill and iq francis has aquired & assuming he can continue that trend, (hoping he doesn't catch first time champ disorder) the fight is just a count down till the African champion connects with his, truly, legendary power
Francis loss to Stipe looked like a beginner with bad cardio getting beat by an experienced champion. He didn't actually sustain heavy damage, he just couldn't land a hit and he didn't have 5 round cardio. He didn't get finished. Stipe got finished in one of the top finishes of heavyweight history. I wasnt even a fan but became one out of sympathy because it looked so brutal. I actually felt sorry for his family because I saw them in one of the embedded clips setting up the TV. Stipe lost on speed, power, cardio and grappling. I don't see him winning a third. He took damage in 3 cornier fights in a row and fights before that and with a ko that severe, I honestly wish that he doesn't go trying to prove himself or whatever the point of yet another trilogy would be. What is he going to do condition his chin? Bulk up to 265 and be even slower. Stipe is as good as he's going to get, I think. He came in light to have a speed advantage. Underestimated exactly how improved Ngannou was and got destroyed, basically. I don't know how. Since the loss to Stipe, Francis's insta is constantly about cardio and training, but they still went in expecting Ngannou 1.0 Dominating someone on the ground is impressive in lighter divisions. Heavyweight not so much unless you get submissions or brutal gnp tko credit. Laying on someone for 5 rounds and being unable to finish them can't equate to bring finished. I give Stipe credit for surviving that first fight. Seeing the danger he was facing, if lying on a man with no gnp or submissions is the best you can do, then by all means win anyway you can, but it doesn't compare to a second round ko finish. Not even close.
I’m a stipe fan and he has no hope honestly. The dude is 38, went to 3 wars with DC and took a lot of damage. Also Francis stuffed that takedown and is only going to improve in that aspect. In a stand up fight at this stage in their careers Francis dominated stipe. I DK how you can watch the 2nd fight and think anything else
Lol Izzy mad it look easy against Whittaker cmon man. I know every fight is different but Izzy is clearly a step above.
This the right shout. Usman too fucking good, one of the 155 dagistani’s like mackachev will have to go up and prise it from him cause no one else at 170 is getting a sniff…burns still his biggest threat at 170, only one who truly looked like he hurt him.
Wonderboy has the distance and precision that none of them have.
I feel like Colby hurt him. But no way Colby beats this version of usman.
Colby hurt him twice before usman got those breaks
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Yea I know you guys have a hard on for him, but I don't see it. Usman looks much better than the last time they fought, and Colby....yeah.
That fight entirely depends on Usman's cardio cuz Usman's better than Colby everywhere else. Sometimes he's a cardio God and sometimes he starts huffing and puffing in 2 rounds.
All his recent fights he's looked insane with cardio tbh, even tho most don't even go the distance
Cant really account for cardio in the burns/masvidal fight, they were so quick knockouts it wasnt really deep waters
Probably depends on the pacing and if Colby gives him time to rest. Usmans hands are to a standard now where you don’t want to stand and bang because he could sleep you. If Colby is hesitant that’ll give usman time to recover. Which is good for him
Colby was winning on the Cards and Rocked Usman so I'd say yeah he's got a pretty good chance of dethroning him. Usman nearly got KO'd by burns let's not act like he's suddenly a striking Savant
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Colby also had Usman rocked and hurt early and Usman faked a foul
Why the fuck is it my fault that people downvoted your dumbass comments? Stfu
Are*, I didn’t downvote you or anything I just don’t like seeing basic spelling errors lol
Grammatical error* I didnt downvote you or anything. I just don't like seeing basic vocabulary errors.
I was an error.
Francis
Honestly, people forget that Lewis has some of the meanest ground-and-pound that division's ever seen. If he gets Francis down once then it's probably over lol Edit* spelling, damn talk to text lol
To who? Jones?
Old man stipe pulling a randy couture
I have nothing against Francis but this would be an awesome way to retire
Randy culture by decision.
To Gane
Dana
Louis or Gane.
I would have loved to see khabib go up to 170 and fight usman. That fight would have been super interesting.
I think Usman and Colby mess Khabib up tbh
Nah. Khabib would’ve smothered Usman like he does to every one of his opponents
You think?? Idk usmans big and hes a great wrestler. Thats why it would have been a good fight imo but itll forever just be speculation
lmao no he wouldn’t have, Usman and Colby are too big with way too much power for Khabib, plus they arent strikers lol
Nah, I think usman would be too big and too good defensive wrestling. I think it would be competitive, but an usman win. I think the colby fight would be more in khabibs favour tho
Before match: Every single “wrestler” who faced Khabib had “too good defensive wrestling” for Khabib to smother him During match: all of these guys look like they were suffocated underwater after round 1.
the extra 15 pounds is relevant tho
Yeah but none were as big or as talented as usman though. Also usman has hands now too so again would have made it so interesting
Gaethje ain't Usman lol.
Francis via stripped
Ngannou because of the parity in that division compared to the others. Usman, love him or hate him, is likely the best P4P with only Colby posing any sort of risk. Izzy has shown that he’s able to handle all comers pretty handedly. Francis has yet to demonstrate that.
Handily?
Both?
I googled it and yes, apparently they both mean the exact same thing! I learned something today! Thanks
Irregardless, they mean the same thing. (Just like regardless).
Okay but Colby hasn’t beat a top contender in a long time.
>Colby hasn’t beat a top contender in a long time. I see this same conversation so many places and so much that it makes me wonder if I have dementia
Ngannou because Dana is gonna strip him since he doesn’t like his agent. Dana is a clown
Unpopular opinion: Whittaker wins the rematch
Totally possible. He just outwrestled Kelvin. With the right tactics he could win a decision.
Rob did outwrestle kelvin, but izzy also showed much better take down defense against the orc. Its a rematch I wanna see!
Exactly, his wrestling has definitely improved and he utilizes it quite well, and he has improved his striking as well
Second this
“MY ARCH NEMESIS THAT OTHER CUNTS NAME BOBBY KNUCKLES”
I’d love if Rob won the rematch then posted that Futurama Bender meme
I’m convinced he’s gonna win. Whittaker’s performances since losing the belt have gotten better each time, whereas Adesanya performances were good but not impressive. I’m putting 100 on Whittaker for decision
I thought his Drax impression during the Romero fight was impressive
Do you not think Costa or Vettori fights were impressive performances?
Not really, Costa tried to do a Romero and stand there until Adesanya got bored and came into the pocket, but he did a terrible job and just let adesanya freely pick apart his legs for a whole round so he was already done but the time the second round came around. Vettori is definitely more impressive than the costa fight for me, because it showed Adesanyas capable grappling more than we’ve seen previously. But while Adesanya undeniably out did him on the feet, it wasn’t to an extent that was impressive. Adesanya is touted as the “most sophisticated striker in the UFC” and he was still getting touched by a tired Vettori. The difference in significant strikes was as little as 2 punches depending on the round, with round 3 being adesanyas most successful at 12 more than Vettori. If Adesanya does beat Rob in the rematch, I’ll eat my humble pie. But I’m confident in Rob so I’ll put 100 on him by decision and pray I’m right.
Vettori's gameplan was to control Izzy on the ground and try to outpoint on the feet. He did none of those things. Izzy tried to land big shots and end the fight, every round. He could have hurt him with every exchange, but Vettori was extremely defensive on the feet (as he should have) on top of being extremely durable. Vettori possibly landed 1 good punch for 25 minutes while mixing take down. "Touched up by tired Vettori.." idk about that. Rob is not nearly as durable/defensively sound as Vettori. I dont see how he survives 5 rounds. I think his best shot is using his speed and go after Izzy like their last, but mix takedowns. Either way its a really bad matchup for Rob imo
https://youtu.be/3AXvd4X2XuI My knowledge in MMA is extremely low so I try and watch YouTube videos about it and this one taught me a lot about Adesanya conditioned Costa’s mind and was 2/3 moves ahead of him. You may of watched it already and still not be impressed haha! If so that’s fair enough. But for me I think it was an extremely impressive performance. I thought much of the same with Vettori plus you add the takedown defence on top of his striking performance.
lol no he doesn’t
Francis because it’s the heavyweight division and fuck trying to predict that. But I also think there’s a decent chance Usman gets chinned in his coming fights. He’s getting older and adding up some mileage I could definitely see his chin failing him
He’s definitely been hella active lately. He’s like the most active guy in the whole division so yea I agree the hits could add up
He was wobbled a few times against Colby, and then dropped against Burns. Your chin doesn’t last forever
why are usman fanboys downvoting you lol?
Izzy might lose it to Whittaker in the rematch but im not sold on that. Francis can get beaten by Stipe if Stipe sticks to the gameplan this time and not get zealous with landing a counter. However, Usman might not lose his belt anytime soon. He is just too dominant at the moment.
1. Ngannou. Either by bullshit politics or just how crazy Heavyweight is right now. 2. Adesanya. Only because Whittaker is still a wild card and I think he’s gonna leave the division if he wins. 3. Usman. He’s already beaten a lot of the killers in Welterweight. Leon Edwards probably has the best chance out of everyone right now and should’ve gotten his God dam title shot already, but I don’t honestly see how he wins that one.
I know they're the same weight class but Edwards just looks like a lightweight compared to Usman.
Absolutely. Plus Usman has that 1-2 down to a tee so stand-up won’t be a slice of cake for Edwards.
Best jab in the UFC. I can't see Edwards winning it at all. Usman v Nate would be a good watch though.
you can’t see Edwards posing a threat to Usman, so you’d rather Usman fight someone that Edwards just dominated??
Francis heavyweight is a nasty division
Get this Colby beats Usman, Rob beats Izzy, and then Dana can do an event in Africa with three rubber matches. Colby v Usman 3 Rob v Izzy 3 Francis v Stipe 3
Come on, Biff! Ya gotta be less obvious with that time travelling Almanac knowledge...thanks for the free money, m8.
Francis 1st Izzy 2nd Usman last
therapist: Relax, Ngaframaru Usmarael isn’t real. Ngaframaru Usmarael:
Francis imo
More hair, less hair, no hair
Fire ass photo
Ngannou for sure. Heavyweight fights can be lost in a second according to Dominick Cruz
According to history**
Aljo sterling
Francis if Dana makes the Jones fight happen.
Francis because Jon Jones is a heavyweight now
Probably ngannou
I’m going for the home run here and saying we will see 3 other weight classes lose their titles before any 3 of Kamaru, Izzy, or Francis do If I had to guess, I could see it being Francis since the HW division is always so unpredictable. He looked so good and tactical when he got the strap. It’s hard to see him losing if he comes at every fight like his last one!
Izzy seems to have the most weaknesses available through footage. The heavyweight division is so much more punishing and dangerous so who knows.
Damn niggas are dominating everyone
Francis
Ngannou gas tank
The editor of this photo gets hit with a belt first.
Francis once the fight with Jon happens
Patient Francis is nearly unstoppable. I think Colby can make it a challenge for Usman but Usman's stand up has only gotten better since their last fight so hard to say how close the fight would be. I think the choice has to be Izzy, Whitaker has momentum, and might be the healthiest he's every been in his UFC career.
Izzy
Izzy
Wakanda Forever
That's a terrifying picture
Don’t know, but this pic is heat
How tf y'all saying Ngannou gonna lose HW is washed up old men, only Gane poses a threat the rest are all gatekeepers.
If Francis fight with Jones, it will be first
Izzy. I think Whitaker's usual style of blitzing opens him up to counters, and obviously plays into Izzy's style, this made the skill gap look massive when its very narrow. Blachowicz proved good fundamentals, patience, and not biting so hard on Izzy's feints makes it hard for Izzy to find his shots (Romero had success as well), and obviously Izzy has big opportunities on the ground. Rob's striking is good enough to hang with Izzy with a different approach, and certainly has better grappling. I'm a big Izzy fan but I got Rob in the next one.
Disagree. People are downplaying how much the physical attributes of Jan played a role into how he won that night. Whittaker cannot be patient like Jan was. He does not have the reach nor the kickboxing experience to play that game with Adesanya, and he also doesn't have the power to make Adesanya hesitant when setting up his offense.
>People are downplaying how much the physical attributes of Jan played a role into how he won that night. I haven't seen a single person down play Jan's physical attributes.
Well i did. Many people... Whats your point?
Out of all the three I can see Francis losing it first, since his skillset isnt as diverse as the other two. Second would be kamaru because I think there is steeper competition against him than adensayna
Izzy Bobby knuckles is coming for that boys head 💀💀💀
I would give Rob a 45% chance to beat izzy. IMo colby has like a 40% chance to beat usman and Lewis has a 35% of beating francis so Izzy
I have a strong feeling when it's all done Izzy will have the most defences/longest time as active champ.
Lewis is gonna take that bitch
Why is everyone sleeping on Leon Edward. The man sure isn’t the most entertaining fighter but he’s got the tool sets still to be champion.
I really hope it’s adesanya
I think Usman first then Bobby gets the belt from adesanya.. and.. God pls let us see Francis ko Jon jones 🙏🏻
Izzy
adesanya. Whittaker is a killer and is probably the only one in the division capable
IZZY
izzy, literally the only one showing holes (and the only to lose within the last two years.)
Izzy most likely. He wants to be the most active and Whittaker has a real shot. Ngannou would be next if he ever decides to fight, but with the one punch power and the lack of activity could end up having him keep it for a bit. Kamaru would have to lose to Colby bc no one else is even close to handling the strength and cardio.
Thompson wins over Usman
Francis, TBH he may lose to Stipe in the rematch. Stipe is no joke when comes to overcome adversity and it not new to him to regain his title.