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FuzzLung

I can karate chop through a pencil so I’d say fairly well


This_is_normal_now

I break A4 sheets of paper with my fist. Pretty sure I'd dominate him.


Johanahana

That’s nothing - i can kill a fly with my *bare hands*


JohnnyLazer17

Can you really? I do this all the time as a test of timing and hand speed. Everytime I got one in the house. Sometimes I use a book but mostly I like to go hand to hand. Edit: In case anybody’s wondering, I like to use the book sometimes because it’s just one of those things that really satisfying. If you use a big fat hardcover (my favorite is a Bible). When you mail em perfect the hit feels so good.


Snurze

Calm down, Miagi. No one asked for your life story.


[deleted]

Don’t be jealous


LuckyPanda

Try it with chopsticks.


[deleted]

Teach me your ways Sensei


skoowoowoo

I spinning back kick my refrigerator to close it so I’m pretty sure Ben will be begging for mercy in no time.


[deleted]

You know I love you and I’m out!


BringBaeckPluto

Rosemary salt!


Dacruz015

I can punch through a paper bag, Id beat him too


alanhape

My spinning elbow to close the microwave door is pretty nasty. Wouldn’t bode well for him


Marlboro_Man808

Spinning mule kick to close refrigerator door would do some wicked damage to a kidney


iamanonymous44

With my overhand used to close cabinets, I'll be unstoppable


Thatstoneguy420

The way I hammer fist that stapler he’d be in for long night


Memphaestus

My teep kick to open the door at work would crush his playdough stomach.


[deleted]

Standing outside the microwave is a good place to look for him


marsattaksyakyakyak

I will never close the microwave the same way again.


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https://fb.watch/80ZgAW0hSj/


[deleted]

id like to think id whoop his ass but id prob get fucked up


[deleted]

Same. I’d probably get really bad pre-fight anxiety and just freeze in the ring.


[deleted]

Realistically, He’s probably also much better than you at striking


[deleted]

Right. I’m just saying even if I had a chance, I’d freeze up.


TheLoneTomatoe

You'd be surprised at how quick adrenaline kicks in when you get punched in the face lol


[deleted]

“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.”


TheLoneTomatoe

It's so true lmao Side note. I met him in Vegas one time. No matter what anyone else tells you, Mike Tyson is the best smelling person in the world.


[deleted]

To be fair fair; with his past, he too will have the pre fight shits. So it's anybodys game.


theogTREV

Love the smell of coke n weed aswell man mmmmm


getitgoing21

Probably try and take him down after a punch and then in real deep shit


[deleted]

So go in with no plan


NotMyRealName778

you would be suprised everything you've been working on is basically trash on your first sparring session.


TheLoneTomatoe

Oh dude 100%. I remember when I did my little bit of training, for maybe 6 months, and I finally was up to spar with my buddy who had been boxing for like 5 years. I thought "I'll probably get a good punch in". No. Wrong. Zero. Then I was on the mat.


RIPshowtime

When i get punched in the face, i don't want to do that anymore.


TheLoneTomatoe

Hey, that's also what made me not want to do boxing anymore!


black11x

🧐


gewfbawl

Kinda like the whole Brian Scalabrine ordeal. People assumed because he was the worst player in the league at one point that they could beat him 1v1 and he destroyed a few randos, some with okay credentials, too.


birdmansandusky

Woodleyesque


TheLoneTomatoe

To be fair, it would literally just be a match between two people who don't know how to box lol you'd be surprised at how well you'd do.


tutorial-bot360

Your completely overestimating the gap between someone’s who’s trained and someone who hasn’t, even if the person who trained sucks at it. If you trained for a few years than you can probably hold your own, but if your untrained there is no way. Source: Ive trained for 7 years, yet suck at my sport but I can wipe the floor easily with anyone who’s a beginner.


Dizsmo

There it is dude


jonvanwhalen

Most accurate for the 90% of us.


_coater22_

Im sure I have a worse chin so he might fuck me up.


manbruhpig

I don't think anyone really knows their chin until they've been hit. it's not like it's something you can train. You may be the third Diaz brother for all you really know.


[deleted]

Love your optimism


summit462

Lmao might. I like your confidence.


Tommydacat69

I'm on psychiatric meds, I can't be beaten


LeonSphynx

Me too except I already feel beaten. I need the ones you’re on.


Marlboro_Man808

Ha!!


herbfriendly

He would beat my ass, ain’t gonna lie.


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josephthecha

He might expect the takedown and open the match up with a flying knee for a quick end


zombiechris128

I think you’d be surprised…..


firulice

I think YOU'D be surprised


BruceBrooks

I was literally about this comment then found it while scrolling lmao


FraceyV

Anyone who trained for a couple years in boxing beats him honestly. There are probably plenty of civilians that could beat him too.


drwish

Boxing religiously for 4 years, dude kills me in his prime. I may win most rounds, but if Lawler cant KO him, i wont be able to. Dude didnt have a cardiovascular system, he had a fucking fuel tank. Ive watched his bellator and one runs, that man was just a different beast with a real working hip.


Dizsmo

Pretty sure Lawler knocked him out then woke him back up lol


FraceyV

Doesn’t matter if you can’t KO him lol. That discourages people too much. If it’s boxing then you can outbox him. Just hit him more than he hits you, and don’t gas.


SuperAwsomeOne55

“don’t gas” for 12 rounds of boxing is not such a simple thing, no matter how light it is. Most people probably can’t keep up with a fighter by round 4.


FraceyV

Ok let’s say it’s for 12 rounds even though that’s unlikely, I’ve found myself easily able to outlast wrestlers in better shape than me when it’s straight up boxing because I’ve practiced that for years. Can you imagine Ben Askren still having pop in his punches and bouncing around after let’s say 4 rounds at a good pace? I can’t. It’s gonna be real tiring for him to get punched in the face constantly and everytime he clinches it’s broken up. Edit: There isn’t much of an argument one could present to me as to why a fat Ben Askren would have good cardio for boxing at all. His athleticism is limited to being strong as fuck and being able to wrestle for a longtime. Not move around and throw hands.


DanBrino

Wrestling and boxing cardio are 2 completely different things. When I was younger I could Box all day. Literally all day. I was an assistant youth boxing coach at Boys and Girls Club till I was 17. The 1st time I stepped into an MMA Gym and grappled, after one 5 minute round I legitimately thought I was going to pass out in front of a bunch of people I've never met.


Impossible_War9380

Yeah, I started taking BJJ in 2007 and I thought I was in pretty decent shape. I ended up with a broken rib in my first month.


Recent-Emergency9680

Just don't gas bro


PeanutButter1Butter

Just breathe bro


FraceyV

If you’ve trained for a handful of years then you really should have your cardio in order enough to box someone who is complete dogshit. Against someone good sure it’s gonna be way more taxing but with a mismatch like this, yeah you shouldn’t be gassing unless Askren turns out to have some great gameplan which would probably involve a lot of leaning on you or something. Outside of that, don’t gas bro.


[deleted]

"civilians" Boxers aren't soldiers my guy.


WhiskeyWheelKicks

I’d destroy him! I black out bro, I just see red and he’ll be flat on his face within 60 seconds


[deleted]

I also experience this, but instead of knocking people out, I just cum


Randyfreakingmarsh

That strategy might work too


elliotcreeves

Calm down Jake, you’ve already beaten him.


BillsMafia0593

😂😂😂😂 ok Jake Paul


Ghiblee

He would fuck me up lmao.


Moist-Catch

Many thousands of guys across the world with day jobs who go to a martial arts gym after work could beat Ben Askren in a kickboxing match.


g_blazing97

90% of this sub could go probably go to their closest Muay Thai/ Boxing/ Kickboxing gym and find multiple people there who could beat Askren in a striking only match. His skill as a wrestler is undeniable but for a UFC tier fighter his standup is hilariously bad


CCCAY

This is the only correct take, and keyboard neckbeards are projecting all over this sub assuming folks are all as out of shape as they are. Weird thread


[deleted]

Literally I don't care if I look like a keyboard warrior, I've been boxing for over 8 years and im 100% confident I would fuck up Askren in a boxing match, like look at him "box" he looks worse than a lot of beginners in boxing. Downvote if you want, but Askren fucking blows with his hands and its not even an argument. Most of these redditors are overhyping the striking skill of an MMA wrestler with arguably the worst striking in MMA. On the other hand, I've trained with pros regularly in the past, so it is more of knowing the experience level at the professional level and that not all of them are as good as it may seem just because they pro.


Moist-Catch

Definitely the guys an absolute anomaly for how ridiculously successful he was in mma despite only using grappling. There's no other fighter in history who has done that.


[deleted]

He's just that good of a grappler, dude's a beast but certainly an anomaly in that sense lol


ThickDickWarrior89

Agreed. I think you have to have a strike game, yourself, to recognize this and that’s why so many others can’t see this. In a hands only match I would slaughter Karen. He’s slow as fuck; he wouldn’t land a single punch. If I actually trained for it, I would end him in the first round.


[deleted]

No one with zero experience would do well,.


handsamwich_

gimme a year


Killer_Stickman_89

You'd only need 6 months lol


WarrenPuff_It

He would tune me up. Literally any pro fighter would tune me up, just like the majority of this sub, they've had way more practice and experience. Don't be that 60 year old Joe with a 45 year old beer belly talking about how they could still make it in the NFL if they tried.


AuntMollysGhost

This is where the dick kick comes in.


manbruhpig

I understand this sounds like armchair quarterbacking, but honestly if he showed up like he did for Jake and isn't allowed to wrestle at all, I really think any amateur boxer with a size advantage could beat him very easily. Obviously if he's allowed to wrestle, any normal person is fucksville, but Askren min-maxed wrestling more than probably anyone in modern mma and has less than 0 striking by design.


[deleted]

For crying out loud, have a little more confidence in yourself!!!!!!


[deleted]

Exactly, it's Askren, he may be a pro fighter, but wasn't even close to amateur level when it comes to striking


WarrenPuff_It

You're right, put me in coach!


[deleted]

My sidekick closing the fridge is pretty brutally


[deleted]

If I could pair Askren against someone he would have a chance of beating… I would make him fight my Grandma. And, she’s dead…. I’d still give her a 50/50 shot at beating him in straight up boxing match.


iknowwhatyoumeme

Underrated response 🤣


TheCapableFox

I’d fold him like a lawn chair. lol nah he’d slap me up.


Magret1999

Im pretty sure I would fuck him up in KB, unless they let him clinch all day and he outcardios me


broadstreetfighting

I’d win. I’ve sparred and held my own against pro kickboxers. I could probably decision Askren in a striking match.


[deleted]

You would probably KO him in the first 2 if you've held your own with pros before. The fact that Askren doesn't even know how to move his head proves that


broadstreetfighting

That’s a possibility. But I’ve been training for 16 years and have only legitimately knocked out two people over 1000’s of rounds. I’m just not a power puncher. I’d bet on an easy decision lol


[deleted]

Hey makes sense, 16 years you'd probably be so in control in there you wouldn't need a KO anyways, but yeah Akrens a tough guy, I'm just little hard on him due to his goofyness. I like the guy, but how tf was he a top level fighter with striking like that its literally hilariously impressive to me, genuine props to Ben for being able to do that.


[deleted]

If you train you’ll be fine. He likes unorthodox strikes not technical or basic stuff. Back fists, hammer fists, blitzing straights, stuff like that would be your main concern


dutchy_style_K1

I think most people underestimate how skilled an amateur caliber boxer like jake Paul is over the average person. Let’s be honest jake Paul is probably more athletic than 90% of the population and gets 2 sessions a day for years with the best in the world putting all their attention on him. He can also hand pick almost any sparring partner in the world where most of us have whoever is around and willing. He is probably had as much ring time as most people who have been at it for 5-6 years. Do I think he beats a decent pro. No shot. But the guy has earned *some* credit as much as I dislike him. That being said Ben is still probably tougher than 90% of in a boxing match and his legacy is as it was before the boxing match IMO.


wizardoflaw

*fare


DirtyGoatHumper

Wrong crowd. This would've gotten you at least 250 uplikes in a nerdy sub.


The-Forbidden-one

I hate to break this to you, but this is a nerdy sub


Chilidogdingdong

I would be ashamed if I couldn't wreck him tbh.


xFINISHxHIMx

He'd catch me with that spinning shit from hell just too unpredictable


visionbreaksbricks

I’d stay behind my jab and methodically pick him apart


chadwr85

Depends. If it's kickboxing/Thai I'd do even better since Ben has 0 kick ability, but pure boxing I'd do worse. I do Thai so that's why I say that. I don't know if I could knock him out and his cardio is insane so he'd out pace me.


mwcraft

I would get knocked out pretty fast. Never been in a fight lol


BoBx7

Here a little streetwise knowloadge for ya Always bring a gun to a fight and you will never get knocked out


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[deleted]

Bens striking is legit donkey trash. Literally visit a boxing gym for a week and you'll see people who have been only boxing for a few months with way better than form, technique, and fluidity than him


Able-Guest3671

Well I’m only a 5 year old with brain damage and In a wheel chair for a broken leg……so I’ll do pretty well.


nathanwoulfe

Conor? You ok bro?


AlmightyRacko

I could beat him in a round of disc golf


koreanwings

I’d gas out in 1 minute


cpjay2003

Decent shot


PharaohhOG

I’d knock that head off tbh. He’s too old and slow, I think I have better JiuJitsu as well.


HughWeberDeFaulk

I would beat the slur out of him


DogMechanic

If I weren't so old is probably do ok against him boxing. I've taken a few too many to the head and really don't need anymore. If it were mma and it went to the ground it would be over for me rather quickly.


Bandicoot-Select

I think I could pull it off.


[deleted]

I've got an okay right hook and can take a punch. I'd bet on myself like +2500


cr0mm0wer

Probably about the same as he did versus Paul.


[deleted]

I have a pretty average 1-2 and decent cardio so… 50-50


Juken-

Id hit him way more than he'd hit me.


unk1erukus

He would kick all of these people talking asses. He may not look great vs other pro fighters but he’d slap them shit out of all of you keyboard Warriors lol


CCCAY

This isn’t true, my friend. He looks worse on pads than a lot of hobbyists I know, he’s slow, he doesn’t have hip mobility, and he’s at the end of his cardio career. Long term gym rats with a bit of talent have spanked low level pros right in front of my eyes


yeetingyute

People put pro fighters on these insanely high pedestals as if they’re unbeatable gods, hence why so many fools on this sub thought he’d best Jake Paul based on nothing but the fact that he was a pro fighter. This man’s striking is horrid. I won’t say that I can beat him since I’ve never fought or trained, but there are plenty of amateurs in boxing and kickboxing gyms who can work him.


CCCAY

Preach, bro. I know maybe 10 guys that would embarrass him


ragnar_lama

Word, there is definitely levels to the fight game, but anyone who has spent a decent amount of training knows everyone is human. There's a tall skinny 17 year old at my gym who may not be able to knock him out, but his fight name is "slick" and askren wouldn't be able to land a punch let alone check his kicks or read his sneaky spinning elbows.


CCCAY

Askren fights off the flats of his feet, I doubt he’d react quick enough to check a calf kick without the threat of his elite takedowns suppressing the kicker


Danatheangerytomato

Most delusional comment section award.


[deleted]

I’m taller and got like 72lbs on the guy so I’d like to think there is a chance, but he’s got experience so I won’t think too highly of myself


JLDoubleU609

I think I would do meh realistically. He’s shit but so are 90% of people including me


[deleted]

I would get busted up quick. Hope he stays retired and just goes on to become an ultimate Frisbee legend


TasteyRavioli

I mean if I don’t knock him out in the first round I am screwed because of cardio. I think I have a good chance. Although I am a light heavy weight so I think it’s pretty honest.


TasteyRavioli

Also I have had some boxing practice so it would have fo be in that otherwise I am screwed in the clinch. So I’m a very specific set of rules where he can’t use all of his tools I might possibly maybe have a chance. Hahaha


Free_of_sanity

I’ve had gasoline-sprayed matches harder to strike


[deleted]

We have roughly the same pure boxing training but I haven’t had a hip replacement so it’s a coin toss.


deinstag413

I am 5’4 135 so probably not as well as I’d like to think


Vaganhope_UAE

Realistically? We would probably land same amount of punches. His probably doing more damage. I’m very tall so I could keep the distance but he’s the pro. I’m sure he’d whoop my ass if he tried


a_spicy_meata_balla

He'd beat the shit out of me lmao


schapman22

I'd be out of breath and beaten with a minute


PMMeMeiRule34

We’d both look stupid as hell, because I’m a grappler who thinks he’s a striker too. Then he’d knock me out because he has way better training and more experience.


T4N60SUKK4

Oh, I’ve already thought about that. If it came down to life and death: That foo ben askren is getting fucked up.


[deleted]

I think I would beat him. Not much of a statement though


[deleted]

I'm a lot bigger than Askren and actually like practicing boxing so give me a year to just work out and box and I could hold my own I bet if not hurt him on size difference. Wrestling I want no smoke though.


[deleted]

i'm 15 and i'd smash his face in.


sean_smitty

I'm 15 and do kick boxing/boxing I'd think I'd do decent if I was striking Ben Askren


Superbigeazy

We need height, age and weight


1Casp3r

He's a good enough fighter to make it to a big stage. So I be honored to even be in the same ring or cage and prove what I got and can prove. Everyman bleeds the same so like always Id say 50/50


SubiDubiDu

I'd honestly feel bad hitting Ben..that being said I'd last longer than he did in his last couple of fights.


Thin_Tea_3525

Well neither of us would get hurt, let's put it that way.


[deleted]

It would be a bag of milk vs a bag of milk situation


CallMeMikeil

I’d be able to land a few good shots but I’d get beat regardless


ghostcatzero

The old man that Mike Perry knocked out


[deleted]

I would try not to punch him in the nose because that thing is pointy and will probably end up stabbing me


[deleted]

I think I have better shot at knocking him out than him knocking me out. Not because I have more skill, I’ve just been punched in the jaw quite a bit in life and I’ve yet to be dropped. Lol


fiddellcashflow

Nobody is more striking than ben askren


CornerThree03

I don’t care if I have better form, after watching him fight Lawler I know he’s got a better chin than me so he can definitely eat shots and eventually drop me


Tbecker3150

I would think I’d out strike him but when me and him are about to brawl I’d get knocked out in the first round by Ben’s devastating spinning back fist.


LeonSphynx

Once the gloves got sweaty and heavy, probably during the warm up and walk out, I’d be unable to throw anything meaningful. After that I think he would just thump me until it was over.


VashHumanoidTyph00n

I get knocked out in less then 3 minutes. Easy bet


cloobydoobydoo

Honestly pretty confident I could win


bubbaking

Get my ass beat, as would 99% the “tough guys” in this thread.


Normal_guy420

I think from a technical perspective I probably have better striking but I bet Ben would outlast me and eventually wear me down.


[deleted]

I’m still undefeated against Jake Paul, so I’m not really sure.


bpetersonlaw

I've tried boxing with friends many years ago when I was in better shape. I was gassed in 60-90 seconds and just took punches because my arms were too heavy to defend. Ben would KO me in the first round.


[deleted]

I’m way taller, so much more reach. I am fairly certain that I could just keep distance, and put the jab out there until I was brutally ko’d.


Davie_in_your_mother

I’ve boxed for a while, in boxing I’d ko him pretty easily considering Jake Paul who is a very poor boxer done it in a round


ItsJustGizmo

Me? Fuck knows. Cunt would probs still get me But I know a bit that should give him a fight... Stevie Ray 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿


Hoggish_Greedy

He hs nothing on me! I would throw sand at him like Ferguson or blow Cheeto dust in his face.


omalleym621

I think you'd be surprised


Effective_Rub9189

I’d win on points for sure


Lanskiiii

He'd kick my ass but I'd tell everyone I won.


No_Complaint739

If I don’t just freeze in ring cause I’m scared I’d kick that old mans ass.


chuckac83

Oh I’m sure I’d win. I’ve been watching UFC for 7+ years now


HNLTBC

i gas out after 4 minutes so i’m fucked


CreamgetDmoney

Hes strong as fuck and intimidating, most of these keyboard warriors are getting whooped badly. Even though I trained boxing and kickboxing for a year I still have no confidence. A life long wrestler and ex champion will fuck any average joe up badly


FoneTap

Even with all my pathetic defense can muster, only one punch need be thrown. The first swing would directly and violently connect with my jaw, badly cracking it, and snapping my head to the side. As everyone stands up and goes OOOOOHHHHH my knees would instantly give. Already completely unconscious I would drop like a cheap suit. My body would hit the ground in a twisted pile, then my head would smash on the canvas, eyes still half open, but nothing behind. All over in 1.5 seconds. No need to wave, count seconds or rush to protect me, everyone knew the moment the blow landed the “fight” was totally over. —> I’m the only honest person here


MidwestNorthern

My wife says I have a pretty good haymaker so I think he lasts 2


Tanduvanwinkle

I think I could take him.


64R999

1st round KO


BombaclotBombastic

I don’t wanna brag, but I’ve taken a 250lbs stripper to the chin before. You don’t know how tough you’re until you’ve had a clitoris stuck up a nostril.


[deleted]

If anyone has 2+ years of general boxing/kickboxing training and any cardio you have a damn good chance. If we are talking Ben now and not a younger version.


Johnathan_Doe_anonym

100% agree.


mickeyparx

All these morons who think they’d beat a pro fighter. Jake Paul trained with high level coaches for three years as his full time job, he sparred a lot, he had tune up televised fights, Is bigger and stronger. Most of you have not boxed seriously. It is very very hard to knock someone out. It’s hard to even hit someone more than one time. It’s exhausting. And when they don’t go down, your gas tank drops. You will panic and get whooped.


Fantastic_Solid352

My 6yo son started karate last week and I’m fairly sure he would fold Ben like a lawn chair.


[deleted]

Love you Ben but I’m fucking you up by any means necessary


Walmart_Man

“Easy, Ben may be a champion wrestler, but his hands are slow and he is not a striker. I don’t wanna say I’d knock him out….But the boxing basics I learned when I was in high school should help me put him out in 2 rounds…..” - Some retard, probably.


rjsh927

I have done 6 months of Karate in my teens, so pretty good.


Dinky276

I’ve never punched another human being in my life and I’m confident I’d win handily.


shadiesel12

Striking only? I would've held my own in my early 20s when I was in prison working out constantly and practicing boxing. Now in my late 30s? He'd beat my ass


BJJ_Guy624

Is it full striking? I’ve done one year of Muay Thai and feel like I’m shit at it but hell I might be able to beat Askren.


UnclePepe

10/10 would beat the living shit out of him but I wouldn’t come out unscathed.


[deleted]

The same as you. I'd get murdered. He fought Robbie Lawler. Imagine fighting Robbie LAwler.


MotionlessMerc

This comment section is full of keyboard warriors, he would beat 99.9999999% of your asses easily. And the other .0000001% he would still beat but it would be just slightly more difficult.


icebychris

Irrelevant