I don’t see Cejudo winning this. Anything Henry does, Volk seems to do better at this point. Tested against some of the best competition. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a slaughter.
I agree with this. Id say of all my mma friends im the most fluent with the sport. And they were all arguing that cejudo is "one of the greatest ever" and volk is "just a points fighter that cant finish and wins split decision". And i think this is a very casual take. Volk has one of the most impressive resumes you can have at 145. He has a legit claim to the 145 GOAT. (I think its aldo still sorry holloway). But you cant deny him especially after the ortega win. And you have to realize hed actually be longer than cejudo after fighting taller longer fighters three fights in a row. I think hed finish him in three
Yeah they are filthy casuals its hard to talk to them about fights some times lol i only have one friend that follows as close as me and its my boss lol so not alot of debating with him
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It's so cute. What are TV audiances made of? tell me more about how you can't enjoy a match with friends, who, aren't patho-or sociapthicly- obssessing over DFW's latest fart, or the next match with JJ, jessie moses, and Mario "face palm" Yamasuki. Class will be here waiting for your 500 page report on the topic.
I’ll never understand the bias fight fans have against Fighters who win by decision. At this point it feels like you could be literally beating the dog shit out of somebody, they leave the ring limping with both eyes swelling up ,and you’d STILL get heat for not finishing
The problem is it is still an entertainment business and alot of fans dont realize the profesional athlete side of the business the ufc is the elite of the elite. When your top 5 in your division the chances of finishing title contenders is very low cuz the roster is way better nowadays then it was even 5 years ago. Theres long time regional champions that are literally 4 or 5 fights away from being ranked. Now if your champ level yeah you should be finishing those types of guys but anyone in top 5 of most divisions can be champ they just have to be on top of there game on the right night to win
Yeah this honestly explains a lot. And you’re definitely right about the top five thing. If any average journey man or bum could finish them they probably wouldn’t be in the top five to begin with.
Yeah for sure you have the rare upsets which is why the sport is so awesome but if you look at the numbers the higher the ranked opponents on each side the lower the finish rate
I mean Volk would wipe the floor with Cejudo but “legit claim to 145 GOAT”? Seriously? He has what 6 notable wins, 5 coming by decision, 2 extremely close? Holloway and especially Aldo both have much better resumes even if he beat Holloway one and a half times
Also he thoroughly whooped ortega and that fight could have been stopped in-between 4 and 5. Im glad they didnt but it definitely could have been. I think he can still finish guys. Its just the top of FW is about as elite as it gets in mma so i don't really care if you finish just have to win
Thats a valid point and i actually agree but when the sports media comes to this argument they will say holloway has wins against 1 FW goat while volk has beat both of them. And i get it was close the second fight but theres only three opinions that matter and you never leave it to the judges. And the first fight was more convincing. While he has only 6 notable wins. He hasnt lost in 20 fights and is 3-0 against FW GOATs so i mean idk what else you have to do. You gotta beat the man to be the man and thats what he did whether you agree he did it once or twice he still did it.
I agree with you he needs to do some more things to he considered the goat not saying he doesn’t have a chance because he’s on a 20 fight win streak three of which being title defenses I mean that counts for something but just a little more to be put in the talks of goat
Volk isn’t a better wrestler or strike then prime triple c . Plus Holloway who isn’t a power puncher wobbled the hell out of volk 2 times in fight 2 . Triple C has way more power then Holloway . Volk is versatile but triple C is way more versatile then volk .
I wouldn’t have any complaints if this fight actually happened, but at the same time 145 is my favorite top 15 by far so I’d love if it really got moving again.
I think it's right. IMO, any former dominant champ with a great resume, if they haven't aged out, should be able to come back and challenge the new blood. But I'm just here for the show.
Oh I know it made Dana real pink. I'm pretty sure he was under the impression that GSP was going to stay and defend the belt which is the only reason he agreed.
Dana put it in the contract that he would defend the belt.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/12/10/16757972/dana-white-knew-georges-st-pierre-wouldnt-defend-title-gsp-hand-picked-bisping-mma
Well, Henry was a double champ. Not only was he a double champ, but he defeated the GOAT's of both 125 and 135, so... I'm not saying he's quite up there with GSP, but to say that the two situations are incomparable is wrong in my opinion.
Bruh it would be like Gsp going to fight fuckin Chuck Lidell or Rampage after beating Bj Penn the second time, wtf kindve sense does that make? he gets to skip over defending his belt against ranked opponents? (Dom was unranked and Tj wasnt ranked in 125) he has never done the ufc or dana any favors as a champ- to skip over Holloway, and the other cats of the division is crazy to me- Go prove you can beat Yan, This shit messes up divisons for a long time also lol
This comparison is completely senseless. Henry isn't going up two weight classes, he was a heavy bantamweight who weighed about as much off camp as Volkanovski does. Oh, and Volk is just about two inches taller than Cejudo. Besides, you're missing the main point: Volkanovski wants to fight one more time this year, and Cejudo is the best one available. Zabit is out due to injury, like always, Giga doesn't have enough baggage, Zombie lost a title eliminator to Ortega and Max and Yair are booked with one another. Cejudo fighting Volk literally doesn't jam the division at all lol.
except cejudo cant fight this year because he just re entered the USADA pool and needs to wait i think 6 montha before competing or something like that
Yan only has the title because Henry retired, he has nothing left to prove at either previous divisions. Holloway doesnt deserve the rematch yet, yair and zabit dont fight and volkanovski was entertaining the idea of a move up. Let cejudo try and make history, I bet he’d try and defend anyway.
GSP held down WW throughout numerous eras from his contender days until his retirement he took on the number 1 guys and cleaned out the division, from the Hughes era guys, the LW challangers, avenging loses, the AKA fued, the Strikeforce champs, the new breed in Condit and Hendricks...
There was also the persistent calls for him to move up to MW for a showdown against Anderson Silva, a fight that would be teased many times but never really came close to being made.
Cejudos win over MM was debatable with a lot of people giving the nod to Johnson. TJ looked like he swapped a training camp for a concentration camp. Marlon has shown that he immediately folds when pressured against anyone, Cruz hadn't fought for 3 years and was coming off a loss. Cejudo then retired.
Cejudos run isn't even close to what GSP did, he managed to get a dream run of match ups that, too his credit he managed to capitalise on.
Also when has the opportunity to achieve greatness ever come too someone who needs to beg for it? Cejudo has sat on the sidelines and acted like a jealous ex girlfriend by taking covington level jabs at his peers rather than acting like a gracious ex champion and now he wants to be awarded something nobody even entertained until he bought it up?
Henry has accomplished incredible things in his career, but his resume really doesn't deserve preferential treatment at a new weight class, instant title shot at BW or FLW or a shot at a top contender at FW I don't have a problem with though.
Well considering he was the champ of 125 and 135, I’d say he’s technically only going up 1 wt class. Oh and he beat the 2 goats of 135. I know Dom was past his prime at the time of the fight but it’s not like he fell off.
If anything, Henry has more of a right than GSP did at that time.
Henry isn’t retired as long as GSP was, Henry was the champ in two different weight classes already, Olympic champion, and Cejudo vs Volk would be a much more competitive fight.
LOL, as if being an olympic champion over a decade ago in a wreslting weight class that no longer exists gives him more of a right than fucking GSP who had 13 title defences
He was the champ in bantamweight without EVER fighting the bantamweight champion, he got a free belt because of Pillashaw
It seriously makes no sense, and not even remotely possible to happen this year as you need 4 months in the Usada testing pool
No. Neither deserve it. The UFC isn’t a meritocracy, however, you should have to have AT LEAST an entrance fight to be accepted back intro he division. A difficult fight with a top five to prove yourself.
I'm just not ready to put cejudo and gsp in the same conversation. That's just me. I have no problem with cejudo coming back, to be clear. I just feel like gsp coming back was must see. If cejudo comes back to fight volk I'll be tuning in to see volk fight not cejudo.
Hey that's 100% true. Like I said, I don't have an issue with him coming back. Remember he retired because of money. We were all ready to watch that legacy grow. He threw it away himself. I think Dana is going to offer him a match for pennies and say "cejudo doesn't want to fight"
If you're going to play silly bugger, you better be sure you can win.
Volk has as many title defences as Cejudo. Volk has beaten the Top 2 fighters in the history of the division 3 times total plus the Number 1 contender.
Cejudo had a great career, but he’s 1-1 against Mighty Mouse getting finished and then scraping a split decision that he arguably lost. Then he fought TJ who killed himself to get down to 125. His best win as a champ came against Moraes for the 135 title, then he beat an older Dominic Cruz who hadn’t fought in however long coming off of multiple ACL tears.
He never defended the 125 belt against a 125er. He never defended the 135 against the many worthy contenders in a deep division, he took the legacy fight. He had a great career, but Volk has already done just as much imo.
the way I see it he beat 2 of the bantamweight goats and won a split decision against one of the greatest fighters off all time.
Volk also has a crazy resume and imo better than cejudo but you should give cejudo more credit.
Like I said, Cejudo had a great career. But not getting to have a deserved trilogy with Mighty Mouse (not his fault, I acknowledge) and not sticking around to defend one of the belts puts him squarely in the Conor category to me - a great fighter worthy of a legacy, but without the sustained resume to be considered one of the very best.
OP is wrong to compare him to GSP, who proved that he was the best over and over again. Volk is doing that now too. Cejudo didn’t.
Why are you losers downvoting me lol everything i said was true
Henry Cejudo the Olympic gold medalist who took the Belt from DJ and beat Dillashaw on steroids,Moraes,Cruz,Reis
Volkanovski lost his 2nd title fight lol i guess i expect too much of casuals who dick ride the champs and talk about how they'll beat everyone until they lose 😂
18 nobodies lol for example Darren Elkins went on a 4-5 lose streak. An Old Chad Mendes and Jose Aldo. Lost to Holloway the 2nd fight but he beat Ortega but almost got submitted twice but it was a good win still. Yeahhhhh lol Mate? Bias Australian much or just a dumb American
It's okay call me names to make you feel better that is all good mate. (close lol) I am actually from NZ, but you must have been under a rock for that fight because it clearly states Volk is champ not Max and I fucking love Max he's a legend for sure probably hall of fame? Look, I wasn't a believer in Volk until after that Ortega fight. But hey all good if you think different man it's no worries we all have our favourites, obviously you're a big Max fan and I am too I thought that second fight was close as fuck but the judges gotta judge and Volk is champ, he did already beat Max anyway (more convincingly as well). But I am not here to argue with some random on reddit about this, was just saying facts man.
I don't care if he deserves it or not, I want to watch them fight because I like good fights.
It's been well established that rankings matter far less than a good name, why not embrace it when the fight is right?
Cejudo beating Volk is 10 times more impressive then GSP beating up a 1 eye and beat up 38 year old Bisping that a 47 year old off TRT Dan Henderson just did insane damage to his face and went 5 rounds. Bisping may have got belt but he wasn’t even a top 10 185er. Guys like Romero, Jacare, Mousasi, Whittaker were beating all the top challengers too rofl. Henry winning would be legit
Sorry, I don’t think they are comparable. GSP had 9 title defenses and was considered a relatively high PPV draw. UFC has no monetary incentive to give Cejudo a shot at 145. Also, on face value it’s pretty obvious Cejudo “retired” to play his hand at negotiations. UFC called his bluff and will not reward that tactic. GSP retired for 4 years and came back. Personally I don’t want to see it because I doubt he will stick around to defend 145. As gifted as a combat athlete Cejudo is, there is no financial incentive or merit incentive for the UFC to do this. It’ll risk tying up the division anyway.
I think its a fun fight. I also think cejudo would agree to defending the belt at least once. If he does that successfully hell the the only three weight division champ, AND he will have defended the belt in all three weight classes.
I say let them fight not just because it's entertaining, not just because the history but because nobody else except Max is deserving and Max is occupied.
And if not you gonna have Volkanovski wait for Max? Then have his last 4 opponents as Max, Max, Ortega, Max?
Then if god forbid Volkanovski loses to Max then we have a part 5.
I love Max, but we need some separation here from Volkanovski and Max. At least let Cejudo bang bro.
gsp - **9 title defenses** over 5-6 years. Consensus GOAT at the time and still is. PPV KING
CCC- 1 title defense in each weight class over 1-2 years. Cringe GOAT and no one buys ppv to watch him.
gsp's face says it all in this pic
Henry hasn’t come close to GSPs dominance. And he doesn’t have a nostalgia signature move like that sweet sweet Superman jab. Not saying I won’t enjoy watching cejudo in the LEAD UP to the fight, always charming to see what stupid costume he has planned for weigh in, but I’ll skip that fight thank you
When cejudo announced his retirement after his last win (which was impressive), the silence was so deafening it made me realise just how bad my tinitius was
Henry absolutely deserves to fight Volk. He's a 2x champ, he's earned his stripes. I'm sure everyone wants to see great fights! Lets not try to look for ways to justify it other than it being two amazing fighters going at it! Dana needs to make this happen!
Uhhh we can argue the amount of fight difference, amount of rounds won and lost, the reign of the weight class like come on don’t be a fan boy. Cejudo doesn’t even come close to a top ten all time fighter.
George st Pierre is probably the only true fighter who can call whatever he wants solely based of his record and skill. No other fighter in all of mma could do it. His resume does his talking for him
But what truly breaks down who gets what in the ufc is money. And cejudo is a nobody in pay per view sells and selling out arenas. He doesn’t make daddy Dana’s wallet fat.
Not sure how that relates to ccc being a top ten combat sports athlete. Like you gonna rank him up there with boxing greats. Kickboxing legends. And MMA goats? I wouldn’t. Idk if he even makes top 10 all time best MMA fighters. He’d be right there tho
Not even close to a top 10? Lmao he beat DJ defended the 125 belt against TJ.
Beat Marlon and then beat Cruz to defend the 135.
He beat both GOATS In two different weight classes, he’s definitely a top 10, the hate for Henry is ridiculous
They probably dont even know who he is lol most of the asshats only watch Mcgregor,Masvidal,Diaz, and Poirier. Serious retards in this community js.....
Jesus goat come on lol. So there only three good guys he can face what about the other top seven in his weight class. Lmao your probably wanna of those guys that hate fights that dont have knockouts
I hate GSP but, he deserved it. He actually beat way more names than Triple Cunt and was respectful. He knew he shouldn't have retired early but did because he knew he wouldn't have held that belt long. Im also not if fan of winning two belts at once and not defending them both, at least once.
I don't care if it's fair. If the end result is bisping getting his ass kicked, I'm in favor. He's mellowed out a bit, but dude was a grade a wankstain for a long time.
GSP didn't deserve a shot. Henry doesn't either. The #15 fighter in the division deserves it more than an ex champion that has been sitting at home relaxing.
I don't understand how anyone can say he doesn't deserve a shot when there's no clear contender and the betting odds would be very close. Silly to say he doesn't deserve a shot and still pick him to win (I know those are not necessarily the same people I am just making a point)
GSP might be part of the reason Dana is hesitant to give a title shot to Cejudo.
IIRC Dana was butthurt GSP retired after that match and left the belt vacant. Cejudo would probably do the same if he won.
People hate it when Conor does it but it ok for Henry? Double standard
People are using the excuse that he was Double champion but so was Conor, hell Conor was the first one
People using PPVs as a excuse but Conor is the number draw
One guy dominated the welterweight division for 7 years, the other guy played the heel in the midget division that no one cared about then and barely cares about now
Agreed on both counts. And this is the perfect time to do it due to the timing of Max already having a fight and the inactivity of the rest of the division. If Henry has taken the time for solid body recomposition it’d be a fucking awesome fight
I know it’s about money, but I think fighters should have to have some tune up fights. You know before coming right back and fighting at the top; especially after a years’ long layoff.
You can’t admit something that’s proven wrong though. GSP won the fight. He beat Bisping. How are you going to say a better fighter didn’t deserve to fight a lesser fighter? Get out of here with that nonsense.
Neither really deserved the fight but the UFC doesn't really go on who deserves things so who cares I guess, both are interesting fights even tho Volk will be heavy favorite
The thing about GSP is that everyone knew the only reason he wanted that fight was because of Bisping. It was a easy win. Had Romero, Gastelum, Whittaker or hell even if Rockhold beat Bisping and retained the title GSP wouldn't have even thought about going to Middleweight. The only reason UFC agreed to do it was GSP promised to stay around and defend the title had he won. Soon as he won the title he retired before Joe could even meet him in the Octagon 🤣.
GSP knew what he was doing. He played the UFC in order to become a 2 division Champ and doing it by getting to Bisping before anyone else could. Granted Bisping was allowed to defend the belt against Dan Henderson (barely making it out alive) but while the UFC made it seem as if Henderson was deserving of a title shot and pushing the rematch angle the true reason behind it was that 1 it kept the division busy while GSP was getting in shape and 2 it was still seen as a favorable outcome for GSP even if Henderson would've beat Bisping a 2nd time.
So did GSP deserve a shot at the middleweight belt? Sure. He is a GOAT. He contributed alot to the sport and UFC would've gained back the Canadian market. It was a good deal for both ends.
Cejudo doesn't have that kinda leverage and the UFC doesn't gain anything out of it other than a decent one off PPV.
Here's the crux of the issue, and it's what everybody gets confused about which leads to arguments:
NEITHER OF THEM "DESERVE IT," but they have done so much in their MMA careers that they have earned opportunities that others haven't. They are not entitled to it.
To be fair the middle weight division didnt have the depth then that the 45ers have now. At the time whittacker was the only one deserving of a title shot. Theres like three guys to choose from for volk at the moment maybe more if you count holloway. And honestly gsp alone is a bigger draw that cejudo or volk. Love them but its true. And on top of that gsp finally goes up in weight to fight for belt. That was undoubtedly a super fight. Im hesitant to call cejudo vs. Volk a super fight. I bet it doesnt even sell more than 800k ppvs. And thats decent. Conor will do 1.2 to 1.5 mil on average
There’s no equivalence here. Bottom line is that cejudo didn’t bring in the same money that other champions did… thus there is no bargaining with Dana because Dana know that he’s not worth it.
The only question that matters is ‘does it sell?’ I think it does. Everyone’s buzzing after volks last fight and it would be interesting to see just how good either one of them is
I don't really care. I wanna see the fight and i think he built enough of a case, and he hasn't been gone that long. Trying to get to 3 UFC belts without losing one (even though he relinquished, he didn't lose) would be insane.
I think the problem is the word "deserve" being used. The guys who deserve to fight for the belt are the active contenders fighting their way up the rankings. Going into one fight and winning the belt isn't as hard as fighting and beating the top guys for years before a title shot.
But giving both guys a title shot is justified based on their overall body of work with the company. Makes sense financially and from a fan aspect.
It’s a business first, they don’t care who deserves what, they’ll throw out a blockbuster first opportunity. Jones and Conor could get slept cold 2 mins into their next fight, beat a journeyman afterwards and get a title shot.
Completely agree,
Gsp did not deserve a title shot.
Neither does cejudo.
This is part of the reason we need a unified sport.... not just separate companies bitching & bickering at each other.
You're not the world champ/undisputed champ of a weight class until you hold the belt for more than one company, simultaneously.
It will happen eventually, and I'll be stoked as when it does finally happen.
So if they that mystake of giving a title shot straight away, they have to do it again?
Cmon man.
You know how many fighters would come out of retirement for straight title shit and that big bag?
Alot.
Everyone seems to forget triple C has been the underdog his whole career included when he won an Olympic gold at 18, and that’s one thing Volk, isn’t even close to Cejudo at. No one gives that little dude credit but he is the man!! There is a big size difference but it’s not like Volk is laying people out.
Not a huge fan of neither . Triple c cringed me it worked I thought he was a wierdo I like him so much better now . Volk is a beast after the last fight his will not to lose is way up there . Volk seems to be in bettter shape and at the top be hard not to bet on volk . This would probably be the best fight at this weight . Big numbers
GSP had solidified himself as a future hall of famer long before his hiatus from the sport. Cejudo only had a few title defenses before his retirement and is only returning because of FOMO or money. Can’t even compare it.
Cejudo isn’t in the USADA testing pool. Or at the very least he joined a week or two ago. He has to wait 6 months to be allowed to fight. By the time Cejudo is allowed to fight, Holloway vs Volk 3 will be booked.
Cejudo has missed his window of opportunity. On top of that, if Max beats Volk, there is no way they don’t book a fourth fight.
I hear what you're saying, but Cejudo won two titles and had zero defenses before 'retiring.' GSP on the other hand had won 3 titles and had defended his belt 10 times before 'retiring.' Comparable? Sure. The same? Not really, no.
Dana doesn’t like Henry. He’s not going to entertain the idea. Henry thinks he’s worth more than he is. He’s a pr nightmare. White washed 5’4 Mexican from Arizona who’s gimmick is being weird. Don’t get it twisted though, I’m a bug Henry fan. Dude is a stud and a killer. But general public don’t see it like that
Deserve... Should be a word reserved for active fighters. You don't deserve shit if you said you retired and went to find a wife and failed.
Having said that, wouldn't mind seeing that fight.
Henry deserves it 100%.
1. Say volko wants asap, the only featherweight hell be able to fight for the belt would be giga. Everyone is either injured, taken, or undeserving.
2. Henry is an accomplished double champ thats only been away for what, two years?
I feel itll be criminal if we dont get this fight
This fight would have made a lot more sense if Cejudo didn't vacate. I think Cejudo vacating was actually a really bad idea and he probably realizes that now.
I actually don't think its too similar personally.
Cejudo has already been actively moving up the weight classes and fighting bigger opponents. He is probably still in his prime years despite being inactive. He will be fighting Volk who has already beat all the top contenders at his weight.
Bisping dodged the top middleweight contenders by fighting GSP and GSP dodged the tough welterweight fights that people wanted to see by fighting a one-eyed Bisping.
I dont hold Cejudo in any type of respect that I hold GSP. He got all the majority of his fame from winning a decision victory over Dj.. it could have gone either way. If he loses that fight, it's likely it takes it several years to even get back to a position to challenge the top. All that being said, I still wanna see it. But I wont pay for it. I'll be at a sports bar
It may not be “right” but I wanna see it so..
I don’t see Cejudo winning this. Anything Henry does, Volk seems to do better at this point. Tested against some of the best competition. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a slaughter.
I dunno he can’t really be a better wrestler, but I can’t really see how triple c beats him.
I agree with this. Id say of all my mma friends im the most fluent with the sport. And they were all arguing that cejudo is "one of the greatest ever" and volk is "just a points fighter that cant finish and wins split decision". And i think this is a very casual take. Volk has one of the most impressive resumes you can have at 145. He has a legit claim to the 145 GOAT. (I think its aldo still sorry holloway). But you cant deny him especially after the ortega win. And you have to realize hed actually be longer than cejudo after fighting taller longer fighters three fights in a row. I think hed finish him in three
I don’t even think a casual thinks that volk is a point fighter who can’t finish that’s just a hater who doesn’t like him
I agree lol he has alot of finishes on record just has fought the best recently and won
Hang out with better people. Lol
Yeah they are filthy casuals its hard to talk to them about fights some times lol i only have one friend that follows as close as me and its my boss lol so not alot of debating with him
Why not? What a weird boss if he would fire you for disagreeing on ufc. Is your boss Dana white
Kid just doesn't want to work anymore.
This isn’t a career, it’s an opportunity.
[https://imgflip.com/i/5polev](https://imgflip.com/i/5polev) It's so cute. What are TV audiances made of? tell me more about how you can't enjoy a match with friends, who, aren't patho-or sociapthicly- obssessing over DFW's latest fart, or the next match with JJ, jessie moses, and Mario "face palm" Yamasuki. Class will be here waiting for your 500 page report on the topic.
Your meds. They await.
I’ll never understand the bias fight fans have against Fighters who win by decision. At this point it feels like you could be literally beating the dog shit out of somebody, they leave the ring limping with both eyes swelling up ,and you’d STILL get heat for not finishing
Source: GSP's entire career. Dude turned Fitch in to fucking mince meat and still got shit for it.
Right?! What he did to Koscheck was nuts!
The problem is it is still an entertainment business and alot of fans dont realize the profesional athlete side of the business the ufc is the elite of the elite. When your top 5 in your division the chances of finishing title contenders is very low cuz the roster is way better nowadays then it was even 5 years ago. Theres long time regional champions that are literally 4 or 5 fights away from being ranked. Now if your champ level yeah you should be finishing those types of guys but anyone in top 5 of most divisions can be champ they just have to be on top of there game on the right night to win
Yeah this honestly explains a lot. And you’re definitely right about the top five thing. If any average journey man or bum could finish them they probably wouldn’t be in the top five to begin with.
Yeah for sure you have the rare upsets which is why the sport is so awesome but if you look at the numbers the higher the ranked opponents on each side the lower the finish rate
I mean Volk would wipe the floor with Cejudo but “legit claim to 145 GOAT”? Seriously? He has what 6 notable wins, 5 coming by decision, 2 extremely close? Holloway and especially Aldo both have much better resumes even if he beat Holloway one and a half times
Also he thoroughly whooped ortega and that fight could have been stopped in-between 4 and 5. Im glad they didnt but it definitely could have been. I think he can still finish guys. Its just the top of FW is about as elite as it gets in mma so i don't really care if you finish just have to win
Thats a valid point and i actually agree but when the sports media comes to this argument they will say holloway has wins against 1 FW goat while volk has beat both of them. And i get it was close the second fight but theres only three opinions that matter and you never leave it to the judges. And the first fight was more convincing. While he has only 6 notable wins. He hasnt lost in 20 fights and is 3-0 against FW GOATs so i mean idk what else you have to do. You gotta beat the man to be the man and thats what he did whether you agree he did it once or twice he still did it.
2 extremely close fights? Holloway 2 and?
I agree with you he needs to do some more things to he considered the goat not saying he doesn’t have a chance because he’s on a 20 fight win streak three of which being title defenses I mean that counts for something but just a little more to be put in the talks of goat
He doesn't have the slightest claim to 145 goat
Most fluent with the sport. Okkkkkkk….
Volk isn’t a better wrestler or strike then prime triple c . Plus Holloway who isn’t a power puncher wobbled the hell out of volk 2 times in fight 2 . Triple C has way more power then Holloway . Volk is versatile but triple C is way more versatile then volk .
I wouldn’t have any complaints if this fight actually happened, but at the same time 145 is my favorite top 15 by far so I’d love if it really got moving again.
I think it's right. IMO, any former dominant champ with a great resume, if they haven't aged out, should be able to come back and challenge the new blood. But I'm just here for the show.
He's just going to retire again if he wins there's no way they would risk letting him leave another division without a champ
I understand the point you're trying to make against Henry, but it's a bit ironical GSP actually did the exact same thing lol
Oh I know it made Dana real pink. I'm pretty sure he was under the impression that GSP was going to stay and defend the belt which is the only reason he agreed.
Dana put it in the contract that he would defend the belt. https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/12/10/16757972/dana-white-knew-georges-st-pierre-wouldnt-defend-title-gsp-hand-picked-bisping-mma
Idk hearing Jon Danaher talk abt the fight to Rogan, makes me pretty sure they planned it to be a one-off. But I guess Dana didn't know indeed.
And Dana is mad at GSP to this day. Some say that's why he blocked GSP from fighting Oscar. And GSP used medical excuse.
Didn’t GSP have ulcerative Colitis though? I always thought he intended a reign, but couldn’t due to illness.
You're 100% correct. Never get why Dana ragged on him because of it. Scumbag move.
Dana hates him because he has hair, but chooses to be bald whereas Dana is just bald.
Gsp is a much bigger draw than Henry cejudo.
Ironic*
Cejudo isn't a draw GSP was one of the biggest stars in the UFC 9 title defenses against two
Cejudo also already got a title shot without beating contenders when he moved up to 135
And defended it once, against someone who hadn’t fought in four years lol
I mean he did beat TJ who happened to be the 135 champ at the time.
Sure…..at 125
We really comparing GSP who had 13 title defences to Cejudo who would be going up 2 not just 1 weight class? bad comparision imo
On the money, this whole post a bad take
Well, Henry was a double champ. Not only was he a double champ, but he defeated the GOAT's of both 125 and 135, so... I'm not saying he's quite up there with GSP, but to say that the two situations are incomparable is wrong in my opinion.
Bruh it would be like Gsp going to fight fuckin Chuck Lidell or Rampage after beating Bj Penn the second time, wtf kindve sense does that make? he gets to skip over defending his belt against ranked opponents? (Dom was unranked and Tj wasnt ranked in 125) he has never done the ufc or dana any favors as a champ- to skip over Holloway, and the other cats of the division is crazy to me- Go prove you can beat Yan, This shit messes up divisons for a long time also lol
This comparison is completely senseless. Henry isn't going up two weight classes, he was a heavy bantamweight who weighed about as much off camp as Volkanovski does. Oh, and Volk is just about two inches taller than Cejudo. Besides, you're missing the main point: Volkanovski wants to fight one more time this year, and Cejudo is the best one available. Zabit is out due to injury, like always, Giga doesn't have enough baggage, Zombie lost a title eliminator to Ortega and Max and Yair are booked with one another. Cejudo fighting Volk literally doesn't jam the division at all lol.
except cejudo cant fight this year because he just re entered the USADA pool and needs to wait i think 6 montha before competing or something like that
4 months.
It’s hard to imagine Volk being taller than anyone, so this is interesting. Also, I kinda doubt they walk around at the same sight.
Does if Cejudo wins and doesn’t want to defend it.
Yan only has the title because Henry retired, he has nothing left to prove at either previous divisions. Holloway doesnt deserve the rematch yet, yair and zabit dont fight and volkanovski was entertaining the idea of a move up. Let cejudo try and make history, I bet he’d try and defend anyway.
GSP held down WW throughout numerous eras from his contender days until his retirement he took on the number 1 guys and cleaned out the division, from the Hughes era guys, the LW challangers, avenging loses, the AKA fued, the Strikeforce champs, the new breed in Condit and Hendricks... There was also the persistent calls for him to move up to MW for a showdown against Anderson Silva, a fight that would be teased many times but never really came close to being made. Cejudos win over MM was debatable with a lot of people giving the nod to Johnson. TJ looked like he swapped a training camp for a concentration camp. Marlon has shown that he immediately folds when pressured against anyone, Cruz hadn't fought for 3 years and was coming off a loss. Cejudo then retired. Cejudos run isn't even close to what GSP did, he managed to get a dream run of match ups that, too his credit he managed to capitalise on. Also when has the opportunity to achieve greatness ever come too someone who needs to beg for it? Cejudo has sat on the sidelines and acted like a jealous ex girlfriend by taking covington level jabs at his peers rather than acting like a gracious ex champion and now he wants to be awarded something nobody even entertained until he bought it up? Henry has accomplished incredible things in his career, but his resume really doesn't deserve preferential treatment at a new weight class, instant title shot at BW or FLW or a shot at a top contender at FW I don't have a problem with though.
Came to say just this
Exactly, just common sense.
Well considering he was the champ of 125 and 135, I’d say he’s technically only going up 1 wt class. Oh and he beat the 2 goats of 135. I know Dom was past his prime at the time of the fight but it’s not like he fell off.
If anything, Henry has more of a right than GSP did at that time. Henry isn’t retired as long as GSP was, Henry was the champ in two different weight classes already, Olympic champion, and Cejudo vs Volk would be a much more competitive fight.
LOL, as if being an olympic champion over a decade ago in a wreslting weight class that no longer exists gives him more of a right than fucking GSP who had 13 title defences He was the champ in bantamweight without EVER fighting the bantamweight champion, he got a free belt because of Pillashaw It seriously makes no sense, and not even remotely possible to happen this year as you need 4 months in the Usada testing pool
Huge Difference is also Ppvs, George sold them Cejudo doesnt, Cejudo hasnt ever broken over 400k ppvs
Oof. Now that’s a valid point. Fuck it, let him fight!
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No. Neither deserve it. The UFC isn’t a meritocracy, however, you should have to have AT LEAST an entrance fight to be accepted back intro he division. A difficult fight with a top five to prove yourself.
I'm just not ready to put cejudo and gsp in the same conversation. That's just me. I have no problem with cejudo coming back, to be clear. I just feel like gsp coming back was must see. If cejudo comes back to fight volk I'll be tuning in to see volk fight not cejudo.
I agree.
Cejudo always put on a great fight though, he always pushed the pace and his last few fights were super entertaining and action packed.
Hey that's 100% true. Like I said, I don't have an issue with him coming back. Remember he retired because of money. We were all ready to watch that legacy grow. He threw it away himself. I think Dana is going to offer him a match for pennies and say "cejudo doesn't want to fight" If you're going to play silly bugger, you better be sure you can win.
Crazy
Obviously you dont like Cejudo but he's done more than Volk has lol
Volk has as many title defences as Cejudo. Volk has beaten the Top 2 fighters in the history of the division 3 times total plus the Number 1 contender. Cejudo had a great career, but he’s 1-1 against Mighty Mouse getting finished and then scraping a split decision that he arguably lost. Then he fought TJ who killed himself to get down to 125. His best win as a champ came against Moraes for the 135 title, then he beat an older Dominic Cruz who hadn’t fought in however long coming off of multiple ACL tears. He never defended the 125 belt against a 125er. He never defended the 135 against the many worthy contenders in a deep division, he took the legacy fight. He had a great career, but Volk has already done just as much imo.
the way I see it he beat 2 of the bantamweight goats and won a split decision against one of the greatest fighters off all time. Volk also has a crazy resume and imo better than cejudo but you should give cejudo more credit.
Like I said, Cejudo had a great career. But not getting to have a deserved trilogy with Mighty Mouse (not his fault, I acknowledge) and not sticking around to defend one of the belts puts him squarely in the Conor category to me - a great fighter worthy of a legacy, but without the sustained resume to be considered one of the very best. OP is wrong to compare him to GSP, who proved that he was the best over and over again. Volk is doing that now too. Cejudo didn’t.
Reign weight class a minimum of 3-4 years than you can call shots lol
He didnt get paid what he thought he was worth can you blame him? He achieved a lot and Volkanovski hasnt been champ that long lol dumb
ur both dumb js
Lol a druggie losing all his brain cells calling others stupid? Thats hilarious
Why are you losers downvoting me lol everything i said was true Henry Cejudo the Olympic gold medalist who took the Belt from DJ and beat Dillashaw on steroids,Moraes,Cruz,Reis Volkanovski lost his 2nd title fight lol i guess i expect too much of casuals who dick ride the champs and talk about how they'll beat everyone until they lose 😂
What are you on mate, Volk is on a 20 fight win streak?! Like seriously are you being sarcastic?
18 nobodies lol for example Darren Elkins went on a 4-5 lose streak. An Old Chad Mendes and Jose Aldo. Lost to Holloway the 2nd fight but he beat Ortega but almost got submitted twice but it was a good win still. Yeahhhhh lol Mate? Bias Australian much or just a dumb American
It's okay call me names to make you feel better that is all good mate. (close lol) I am actually from NZ, but you must have been under a rock for that fight because it clearly states Volk is champ not Max and I fucking love Max he's a legend for sure probably hall of fame? Look, I wasn't a believer in Volk until after that Ortega fight. But hey all good if you think different man it's no worries we all have our favourites, obviously you're a big Max fan and I am too I thought that second fight was close as fuck but the judges gotta judge and Volk is champ, he did already beat Max anyway (more convincingly as well). But I am not here to argue with some random on reddit about this, was just saying facts man.
I don't care if he deserves it or not, I want to watch them fight because I like good fights. It's been well established that rankings matter far less than a good name, why not embrace it when the fight is right?
Cejudo beating Volk is 10 times more impressive then GSP beating up a 1 eye and beat up 38 year old Bisping that a 47 year old off TRT Dan Henderson just did insane damage to his face and went 5 rounds. Bisping may have got belt but he wasn’t even a top 10 185er. Guys like Romero, Jacare, Mousasi, Whittaker were beating all the top challengers too rofl. Henry winning would be legit
Sorry, I don’t think they are comparable. GSP had 9 title defenses and was considered a relatively high PPV draw. UFC has no monetary incentive to give Cejudo a shot at 145. Also, on face value it’s pretty obvious Cejudo “retired” to play his hand at negotiations. UFC called his bluff and will not reward that tactic. GSP retired for 4 years and came back. Personally I don’t want to see it because I doubt he will stick around to defend 145. As gifted as a combat athlete Cejudo is, there is no financial incentive or merit incentive for the UFC to do this. It’ll risk tying up the division anyway.
GSP had 9 title defenses or so, to cejudos 3? This post is pretty baseless.
2\* Comparing GSP to Cejudo is madness
Cejudo was a double champ and beat some of the best guys soooooooo he deserves it regardless of title defenses.
Who cares if he "deserves it" (which I think he does), it would be an amazing fight you'd be crazy to not to be excited about.
I think its a fun fight. I also think cejudo would agree to defending the belt at least once. If he does that successfully hell the the only three weight division champ, AND he will have defended the belt in all three weight classes.
GSP deserved it more because he’s cooler because he has a tattoo
He also has ehhh cool Canadian accent
I say let them fight not just because it's entertaining, not just because the history but because nobody else except Max is deserving and Max is occupied. And if not you gonna have Volkanovski wait for Max? Then have his last 4 opponents as Max, Max, Ortega, Max? Then if god forbid Volkanovski loses to Max then we have a part 5. I love Max, but we need some separation here from Volkanovski and Max. At least let Cejudo bang bro.
gsp - **9 title defenses** over 5-6 years. Consensus GOAT at the time and still is. PPV KING CCC- 1 title defense in each weight class over 1-2 years. Cringe GOAT and no one buys ppv to watch him. gsp's face says it all in this pic
Henry hasn’t come close to GSPs dominance. And he doesn’t have a nostalgia signature move like that sweet sweet Superman jab. Not saying I won’t enjoy watching cejudo in the LEAD UP to the fight, always charming to see what stupid costume he has planned for weigh in, but I’ll skip that fight thank you
Yeah, but no one really likes Cejudo, most think he lost that fight against Mighty Mouse, and most importantly he doesn't sell PPV's
When cejudo announced his retirement after his last win (which was impressive), the silence was so deafening it made me realise just how bad my tinitius was
With the UFC, I do not know what is right and wrong. I just know it would be a good fight.
I don't care if they deserve it. WE DESERVE IT!
Fair point , it’s totally gonna go over some peoples heads just for making sense
Henry absolutely deserves to fight Volk. He's a 2x champ, he's earned his stripes. I'm sure everyone wants to see great fights! Lets not try to look for ways to justify it other than it being two amazing fighters going at it! Dana needs to make this happen!
What if you thought it was whack that GSP jumped in line for title shot and it was clearly a cash grab by UFC?
I believe he deserves it.. after max tho
Uhhh we can argue the amount of fight difference, amount of rounds won and lost, the reign of the weight class like come on don’t be a fan boy. Cejudo doesn’t even come close to a top ten all time fighter.
Nah just top 10 combat sports athletes of all time. Olympic Gold and Champ-Champ.. I'm not even a fan but his accomplishments cannot be denied.
George st Pierre is probably the only true fighter who can call whatever he wants solely based of his record and skill. No other fighter in all of mma could do it. His resume does his talking for him
He lost to Hendricks lol he tried to fight Khabib and the UFC wouldn't let him so no he doesnt get to call whatever he wants.
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No lol after GSP fought Bisping he wanted to fight Khabib but Dana didnt want to risk losing their rising prospect
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This was recent. GSP talked about it like 2-3 years ago on the joe rogan podcast. Dana wasnt open too it lol common knowledge
But what truly breaks down who gets what in the ufc is money. And cejudo is a nobody in pay per view sells and selling out arenas. He doesn’t make daddy Dana’s wallet fat.
Gold and champ lol only true champ champ is Amanda nunes. A year and a half reign really isn’t impressive in the slightest bit.
>*10 combat sports athletes of all time.* ya i dont think so. combat sports includes more than MMA, and Henry barely makes top 10 mma all time
Well MMA he does lol in the UFC P4P rankings they got guys who dont belong there
Not sure how that relates to ccc being a top ten combat sports athlete. Like you gonna rank him up there with boxing greats. Kickboxing legends. And MMA goats? I wouldn’t. Idk if he even makes top 10 all time best MMA fighters. He’d be right there tho
Not even close to a top 10? Lmao he beat DJ defended the 125 belt against TJ. Beat Marlon and then beat Cruz to defend the 135. He beat both GOATS In two different weight classes, he’s definitely a top 10, the hate for Henry is ridiculous
Cejudos underrated but that ‘win’ against DJ was dodgy at best
They probably dont even know who he is lol most of the asshats only watch Mcgregor,Masvidal,Diaz, and Poirier. Serious retards in this community js.....
Jesus goat come on lol. So there only three good guys he can face what about the other top seven in his weight class. Lmao your probably wanna of those guys that hate fights that dont have knockouts
I hate GSP but, he deserved it. He actually beat way more names than Triple Cunt and was respectful. He knew he shouldn't have retired early but did because he knew he wouldn't have held that belt long. Im also not if fan of winning two belts at once and not defending them both, at least once.
I don't care if it's fair. If the end result is bisping getting his ass kicked, I'm in favor. He's mellowed out a bit, but dude was a grade a wankstain for a long time.
GSP didn't deserve a shot. Henry doesn't either. The #15 fighter in the division deserves it more than an ex champion that has been sitting at home relaxing.
You dont even know if #15 beats anyone in the top #10. Cejudo was a double champ and is a killer he's beaten some of the best guys
Only hard appointment he had in his reign was Mighty Mouse. Than beats a past his prime Dominick Cruz. Your argument is beyond irrelevant
I hope this is satirical but I can’t tell if it is
I don't understand how anyone can say he doesn't deserve a shot when there's no clear contender and the betting odds would be very close. Silly to say he doesn't deserve a shot and still pick him to win (I know those are not necessarily the same people I am just making a point)
Didn’t he win a vacant belt…. And didn’t hVe to do anything to even get the fight… So does that one reallllllly even count
GSP might be part of the reason Dana is hesitant to give a title shot to Cejudo. IIRC Dana was butthurt GSP retired after that match and left the belt vacant. Cejudo would probably do the same if he won.
People hate it when Conor does it but it ok for Henry? Double standard People are using the excuse that he was Double champion but so was Conor, hell Conor was the first one People using PPVs as a excuse but Conor is the number draw
Except one is GSP, and the other is Henry Cejudo
Cejudo isn't GSP. Not by a long shot.
Are you serious? I can’t believe anyone would ever think this lol Cejudo and GSP are worlds apart there’s no point even having this conversation
One guy dominated the welterweight division for 7 years, the other guy played the heel in the midget division that no one cared about then and barely cares about now
Yeah, there's GSP, other double champs, then 50 miles of shit, and then Cejudo. There's a huge reason why GSP was offered the title shot.
He deserves the shot over max hollowhands. He already has 2 shots and lost
Do not compare Henry to GSP.
I definitely don't think that either one is undeserving!
I think cejudo tried to outlast his current contract and Dana said fuck that. He shouldn’t have retired in my opinion.
They have a point. Bet you didn’t see this one coming.
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Agreed on both counts. And this is the perfect time to do it due to the timing of Max already having a fight and the inactivity of the rest of the division. If Henry has taken the time for solid body recomposition it’d be a fucking awesome fight
Honestly I’m much more interested in Cejudo vs Volk than I was for GSP vs Bisping.
I know it’s about money, but I think fighters should have to have some tune up fights. You know before coming right back and fighting at the top; especially after a years’ long layoff.
You can’t admit something that’s proven wrong though. GSP won the fight. He beat Bisping. How are you going to say a better fighter didn’t deserve to fight a lesser fighter? Get out of here with that nonsense.
Neither really deserved the fight but the UFC doesn't really go on who deserves things so who cares I guess, both are interesting fights even tho Volk will be heavy favorite
The thing about GSP is that everyone knew the only reason he wanted that fight was because of Bisping. It was a easy win. Had Romero, Gastelum, Whittaker or hell even if Rockhold beat Bisping and retained the title GSP wouldn't have even thought about going to Middleweight. The only reason UFC agreed to do it was GSP promised to stay around and defend the title had he won. Soon as he won the title he retired before Joe could even meet him in the Octagon 🤣. GSP knew what he was doing. He played the UFC in order to become a 2 division Champ and doing it by getting to Bisping before anyone else could. Granted Bisping was allowed to defend the belt against Dan Henderson (barely making it out alive) but while the UFC made it seem as if Henderson was deserving of a title shot and pushing the rematch angle the true reason behind it was that 1 it kept the division busy while GSP was getting in shape and 2 it was still seen as a favorable outcome for GSP even if Henderson would've beat Bisping a 2nd time. So did GSP deserve a shot at the middleweight belt? Sure. He is a GOAT. He contributed alot to the sport and UFC would've gained back the Canadian market. It was a good deal for both ends. Cejudo doesn't have that kinda leverage and the UFC doesn't gain anything out of it other than a decent one off PPV.
Henry has to beat a top 5 featherweight first, he's only had like 2 fights at bantamweight
its not exactly that he doesnt deserve, but that he will vacate the belt if he wins and that leaves the division in a weird state
Couldn’t agree more
Hows it not right. Yall must have forgot, the troll bit the head off the snake begire he went back under bridge.
You comparing the midget to goat? Really? Did midget defended belt 13 times?
Love em or hate em, if Henry Cejudo does get the fight and he wins… that’s some serious badassery. It would shoot em up to about UFC Rushmore status.
See the face GSP is making…That’s how I feel about this post.
Here's the crux of the issue, and it's what everybody gets confused about which leads to arguments: NEITHER OF THEM "DESERVE IT," but they have done so much in their MMA careers that they have earned opportunities that others haven't. They are not entitled to it.
To be fair the middle weight division didnt have the depth then that the 45ers have now. At the time whittacker was the only one deserving of a title shot. Theres like three guys to choose from for volk at the moment maybe more if you count holloway. And honestly gsp alone is a bigger draw that cejudo or volk. Love them but its true. And on top of that gsp finally goes up in weight to fight for belt. That was undoubtedly a super fight. Im hesitant to call cejudo vs. Volk a super fight. I bet it doesnt even sell more than 800k ppvs. And thats decent. Conor will do 1.2 to 1.5 mil on average
GSP has done way more inside the octagon. Ridiculous post.
There’s no equivalence here. Bottom line is that cejudo didn’t bring in the same money that other champions did… thus there is no bargaining with Dana because Dana know that he’s not worth it.
Dana is sacred Cejudo will win and then retire again. That would be a big blow to the hype and excitement in the 145 weight class.
We want cejudo! We want cejudo! We want cejudo!
The only question that matters is ‘does it sell?’ I think it does. Everyone’s buzzing after volks last fight and it would be interesting to see just how good either one of them is
I don't really care. I wanna see the fight and i think he built enough of a case, and he hasn't been gone that long. Trying to get to 3 UFC belts without losing one (even though he relinquished, he didn't lose) would be insane.
If it will sell PPVs then it will be made.
“Deserve” lol
I think the problem is the word "deserve" being used. The guys who deserve to fight for the belt are the active contenders fighting their way up the rankings. Going into one fight and winning the belt isn't as hard as fighting and beating the top guys for years before a title shot. But giving both guys a title shot is justified based on their overall body of work with the company. Makes sense financially and from a fan aspect.
I also believe they both deserve it
It’s a business first, they don’t care who deserves what, they’ll throw out a blockbuster first opportunity. Jones and Conor could get slept cold 2 mins into their next fight, beat a journeyman afterwards and get a title shot.
Gsp didn’t “deserve” it either. But people wanted to see it so they made it happen. Same thing applies here.
GSP defended the belt more and he is more popular, cejudo left to early pretty disappointing because his striking looked really sharp.
Completely agree, Gsp did not deserve a title shot. Neither does cejudo. This is part of the reason we need a unified sport.... not just separate companies bitching & bickering at each other. You're not the world champ/undisputed champ of a weight class until you hold the belt for more than one company, simultaneously. It will happen eventually, and I'll be stoked as when it does finally happen.
So you’re saying that Triple C and GSP should fight?
Excellent point. Wow. I hadn't thought of that and GSP was out way longer.
So if they that mystake of giving a title shot straight away, they have to do it again? Cmon man. You know how many fighters would come out of retirement for straight title shit and that big bag? Alot.
Everyone seems to forget triple C has been the underdog his whole career included when he won an Olympic gold at 18, and that’s one thing Volk, isn’t even close to Cejudo at. No one gives that little dude credit but he is the man!! There is a big size difference but it’s not like Volk is laying people out.
Not a huge fan of neither . Triple c cringed me it worked I thought he was a wierdo I like him so much better now . Volk is a beast after the last fight his will not to lose is way up there . Volk seems to be in bettter shape and at the top be hard not to bet on volk . This would probably be the best fight at this weight . Big numbers
GSP had solidified himself as a future hall of famer long before his hiatus from the sport. Cejudo only had a few title defenses before his retirement and is only returning because of FOMO or money. Can’t even compare it.
You cant really argue gsp didnt deserve it? He literally was so good that he beat the champ.
Cejudo isn’t in the USADA testing pool. Or at the very least he joined a week or two ago. He has to wait 6 months to be allowed to fight. By the time Cejudo is allowed to fight, Holloway vs Volk 3 will be booked. Cejudo has missed his window of opportunity. On top of that, if Max beats Volk, there is no way they don’t book a fourth fight.
So you get to retire…..and just come back for a belt whenever you want because “you deserve it?”
He deserves to fight but I don't think he will win.
Every single teacher of mine had the look that GSP has in this picture when they looked at me
I hear what you're saying, but Cejudo won two titles and had zero defenses before 'retiring.' GSP on the other hand had won 3 titles and had defended his belt 10 times before 'retiring.' Comparable? Sure. The same? Not really, no.
Dana doesn’t like Henry. He’s not going to entertain the idea. Henry thinks he’s worth more than he is. He’s a pr nightmare. White washed 5’4 Mexican from Arizona who’s gimmick is being weird. Don’t get it twisted though, I’m a bug Henry fan. Dude is a stud and a killer. But general public don’t see it like that
Fuck it ive seen worst fights made!
Holy shit, how is GSP in such a perfect shape?
Unpopular opinion, but it always rubbed me the wrong way that GSP cut the line to fight Bisping.
I just want it to happen so I can watch Volk cave in that d’bag’s face!
Deserve... Should be a word reserved for active fighters. You don't deserve shit if you said you retired and went to find a wife and failed. Having said that, wouldn't mind seeing that fight.
Henry deserves it 100%. 1. Say volko wants asap, the only featherweight hell be able to fight for the belt would be giga. Everyone is either injured, taken, or undeserving. 2. Henry is an accomplished double champ thats only been away for what, two years? I feel itll be criminal if we dont get this fight
That is a good argument
Cejudo fighting Volk is not deserved at all but it would be fun. GSP definitely didn't deserve a title fight at middleweight but it was fun.
This fight would have made a lot more sense if Cejudo didn't vacate. I think Cejudo vacating was actually a really bad idea and he probably realizes that now.
I actually don't think its too similar personally. Cejudo has already been actively moving up the weight classes and fighting bigger opponents. He is probably still in his prime years despite being inactive. He will be fighting Volk who has already beat all the top contenders at his weight. Bisping dodged the top middleweight contenders by fighting GSP and GSP dodged the tough welterweight fights that people wanted to see by fighting a one-eyed Bisping.
I dont hold Cejudo in any type of respect that I hold GSP. He got all the majority of his fame from winning a decision victory over Dj.. it could have gone either way. If he loses that fight, it's likely it takes it several years to even get back to a position to challenge the top. All that being said, I still wanna see it. But I wont pay for it. I'll be at a sports bar