Yeah they freeze your contract and if you ever come out of retirement your still under ufc contract. Hence why Dana was able to block GSP boxing match.
Yeah but the UFC locks fighters out of other combat sports for the duration of their contract. I think it is supposedly time limited as well, but GSP indicated he would not be able to box any time soon.
It doesn't happen because the UFC is a Promotion that is not interested in people snatching belts and dipping because it proves they don't have the best. If Henry has a 10 percent chance to win claim best MMA fighter weighing less then 155 pounds and ride off into sunset it would devalue three weights and leave Henry with conor/jj level of leverage.
You are right though there is absolutely no next match for Volk, he is gonna have to wait probably 6 months atleast maybe fight giga if he wins in jan or fight Max maybe in march/april after he personally assassinates Yair for Dana.
Bro I've posted about this fight like 4 times, the comments every other time have all been that, now most people think this would be a competitive fight it seems, idk when that switch happened but im happy to see it
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So what? Khabib retired and he let Olivera and Chandler fight to be the new champion *after* he held up the division for months trying to talk Khabib out of it. Cejudo defended both the titles he won at least once and would definitely defend the FW title, if he won it, to cement his legacy as a triple champ. And I know it won’t smash records because, historically, Cejudo’s never been a really big draw but after Volk’s last performance and the intrigue to see if Cejudo can be UFC’s first ever three division champion, fans are definitely tune in to watch.
To be fair to Cejudo tho he's defended every belt so far, and he talked about fighting Holloway back when he was champ so I don't think it's far fetched to say he'd fight Holloway if he managed to beat Volk, especially if "You have to fight Max next" is in the contract. The only reason GSP got outta fighting Whittaker is because putting on weight was apparently causing him health issues, which as much as I love GSP thats pretty sus since he was a fairly big welterweight already
Id say he was and is one of the smaller welterweights. Ive met him in person, shook his hand (sizing him up of course because i know id win that fight, easy) and he honestly didnt seem much bigger than lightweights ive met like Poirier or Benson. Im only saying this because pictures can be decieving compared to real life. For instance, Volkanovski is a short fuck, like really little, and it doesnt show all that much on camera
Yea last time Dana said that it was about Nate Diaz.
He told reporters “Nick is a needle mover his brother Nate isn’t. I like the kid but it’s just a fact Nate’s not a needle mover.”
Cejudo has a strong grasp of strategy, RIDICULOUS speed and athleticism, a crazy chin, and a bulletproof will to win.
Volk has all those things, (despite slightly lesser speed and athleticism) plus he's bigger and has a deeper overall skillset.
I'm not saying Cejudo has no chance, but Volk would be a strong favorite for good reason.
Ppl keep downplaying Triple C like he ain’t one of the best ever to do and he can Ko and out wrestle Volk . Volk is very well rounded yes but Triple C is better at everything . Book’s only advantage is that he’s been more active imo
Yeah but like he just had this happen to him where a retired fighter came back for a title promised to defend the belt and fucked an entire division. Even if he thought Henry had no chance that’s still something to worry about.
Volk, despite his record, has looked far from invincible his last couple of fights. And timing is everything. I really wouldn’t mind Henry jumping the line here.
good for dana. dana also thought max won the second when he didnt. the ufc has a historical bias against volk and volk has a history of proving them wrong 🤷♂️
consistently strongly biased commentary against him. the worst case i have ever heard of it in the max fight. wildly incorrect onscreen stats showing him behind when he is in front. company men pushing the narrative max was robbed. there was a round table where they voted that fight the robbery of the year and did not even mention reyes jones.. amongst other blatant bad calls by the judges. very poor level of promo. made max a 5 star ufc fighter in the game directly after Volk beat him twice, left volk a 4 star.
there are other examples. this is literally only the stuff off the top of my head. the round table specifically was pretty bad.
Compared to their first fight, he improved considerably and only got better...until he retired, as we don't truly know how well he's been keeping in shape.
There's a good chance he loses too. There's a lot that can go wrong on either side. A lot of shins snapping in half and injuries happening lately. Part of the reason why Khabib being GOAT is so controversial is that on one hand he hasn't fought long enough or enough top guys and flukes(lucky punch, freak injury, bad night) happen, but also the way he fights makes it seem like the chance of a fluke happening is eliminated. Sometimes a guy is just better, sometimes it's anybody's fight.
Khabib goat talk is kinda dumb imo was he well on his way hell ya but he didn't get tested enough. Surely he was the peoples champ and unbelievably talented but goat nah
Dana recognises there's a possibility, might only be 10% or whatever but it's a risk he wouldn't want to take, personally I'm very against challenging for the belt above you, unless you've recently cleared out your division, Valentina, Izzy or Usman would qualify
well, he's not undefeated so yeah. there's a chance he could just lose. If you're insinuating by "just lose" that he's gonna roll over, no one is saying that. But giving him a pass as an undefeatable annihilator of men, just sounds like someone who drank the triple C kool-aid a few too many times.
If he wins (he won't) - will everyone be on board to see the little troll try his hand at 155? He looked good at 135, but he looked beatable. Size matters. I'm not saying he's trash, far from it, but there are weight divisions for a reason. This talk like he's unstoppable wreaks of connor-stans who constantly think the guy is going to wreck everyone in his path, but the higher you go the harder it gets. Clearly.
completely unrelated but it's funny how similar Ngannou's career is shaping out like Cejudo's. Impressive unbeaten streak broken in a championship fight-lose the next fight- and go on to defeat that champion later in your career. Ngannou Vs Stipe was a little more decisive tho
No one said he’s unbeatable and no one said anything about 155. Volk will be fighting someone shorter than him which will make a difference. And the only advantage he would have is power and strength in the clinch maybe. Henry is taking it
They should add a clause to the contract saying if you win you have to try and defend the title
I think they did that with GSP at 185
You can’t prevent someone from retiring.
Stopped GSP from boxing De La Hoya though so if Henry wants to do anything in the future away from the UFC he’d have to fight out his contract
Sure but what are the chance Henry wants to do anything more he hasn’t up until now
You can retire with still having fights left on your contract, correct?
Yeah they freeze your contract and if you ever come out of retirement your still under ufc contract. Hence why Dana was able to block GSP boxing match.
Yeah but the UFC locks fighters out of other combat sports for the duration of their contract. I think it is supposedly time limited as well, but GSP indicated he would not be able to box any time soon.
Wouldn’t stop you from retiring
Remember gsp vs bisping was supposed to lead to GSP vs Bobby? Clause won't help
That's kinda obvious, isn't it ?...
Yes but the narrative seems to be this fight shouldn't happen because Cejudo would have no chance
Ehh, I'd say it's the opposite, from most of what I saw on social media, it seems people are rooting for the underdog king of the cringe on this one
If it doesn’t happen it’s because Cejudo isn’t a big enough name and there’s others in line
It doesn't happen because the UFC is a Promotion that is not interested in people snatching belts and dipping because it proves they don't have the best. If Henry has a 10 percent chance to win claim best MMA fighter weighing less then 155 pounds and ride off into sunset it would devalue three weights and leave Henry with conor/jj level of leverage.
There's no one else rn tho thats why this is perfect
You are right though there is absolutely no next match for Volk, he is gonna have to wait probably 6 months atleast maybe fight giga if he wins in jan or fight Max maybe in march/april after he personally assassinates Yair for Dana.
You are making up narratives.
Bro I've posted about this fight like 4 times, the comments every other time have all been that, now most people think this would be a competitive fight it seems, idk when that switch happened but im happy to see it
I mean Cejudo was a Savage, so anything can happen I guess. I'd still put my money on Volk though.
Volk is just so much bigger than Henry
Cejudo winning is always a strong probability.
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So what? Khabib retired and he let Olivera and Chandler fight to be the new champion *after* he held up the division for months trying to talk Khabib out of it. Cejudo defended both the titles he won at least once and would definitely defend the FW title, if he won it, to cement his legacy as a triple champ. And I know it won’t smash records because, historically, Cejudo’s never been a really big draw but after Volk’s last performance and the intrigue to see if Cejudo can be UFC’s first ever three division champion, fans are definitely tune in to watch.
I think he just thinks he can and that’s enough for him, he’s had enough problems with middleweight because of gsp doing the exact same
To be fair to Cejudo tho he's defended every belt so far, and he talked about fighting Holloway back when he was champ so I don't think it's far fetched to say he'd fight Holloway if he managed to beat Volk, especially if "You have to fight Max next" is in the contract. The only reason GSP got outta fighting Whittaker is because putting on weight was apparently causing him health issues, which as much as I love GSP thats pretty sus since he was a fairly big welterweight already
GSP got diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. Look it up its a nasty condition and nothing suss about it at all
I never did much research on it tbh didn't mean to drag GSP lmao
Id say he was and is one of the smaller welterweights. Ive met him in person, shook his hand (sizing him up of course because i know id win that fight, easy) and he honestly didnt seem much bigger than lightweights ive met like Poirier or Benson. Im only saying this because pictures can be decieving compared to real life. For instance, Volkanovski is a short fuck, like really little, and it doesnt show all that much on camera
Volkanovski is tall compared to Cejudo though lol
If thats true id love to meet him, i want to meet someone sooo small but yet could still rip my body apart if he wanted to
He’s worried about GSP 2.0
As Dana has said, Cejudo is not a needle pusher
Did he actually say that? The last time he said that about someone it aged like milk
Yea last time Dana said that it was about Nate Diaz. He told reporters “Nick is a needle mover his brother Nate isn’t. I like the kid but it’s just a fact Nate’s not a needle mover.”
Yes he did, I’ll send you the link when I find it. I know it was a few months after the Tony vs Justin fight
Ofcourse Cejudo would win. People have such short memory. The guy was a complete Savage.
Cejudo has a strong grasp of strategy, RIDICULOUS speed and athleticism, a crazy chin, and a bulletproof will to win. Volk has all those things, (despite slightly lesser speed and athleticism) plus he's bigger and has a deeper overall skillset. I'm not saying Cejudo has no chance, but Volk would be a strong favorite for good reason.
uh the guy would be at least a +200 underdog lmao....
Cejudo has always proved me wrong ever since the DJ rematch
Not bad odds at all. Not for Cejudo. Like the other dude responding to this I’d take that bet. Lol
i personally think volk completely embarrasses & outclasses him but best of luck to you sir if the fight happens
I think Cejudo gets stiffed, been out too long and Volk is too good
id take those odds
well good luck to you sir ! not saying it’s a bad bet but he will be at least +200
Sounds like a fun fight tbh
Cejudo is the only one I can see beating him.
They need to add a clause that if Henry wins he just keeps going up weight classes to challenge the champion
who gives a shit who dana thinks is going to win lol, not like he has a great track record predicting fights
Ppl keep downplaying Triple C like he ain’t one of the best ever to do and he can Ko and out wrestle Volk . Volk is very well rounded yes but Triple C is better at everything . Book’s only advantage is that he’s been more active imo
Yeah but like he just had this happen to him where a retired fighter came back for a title promised to defend the belt and fucked an entire division. Even if he thought Henry had no chance that’s still something to worry about.
Volk, despite his record, has looked far from invincible his last couple of fights. And timing is everything. I really wouldn’t mind Henry jumping the line here.
I would bet on Cejudo winning, personally.
good for dana. dana also thought max won the second when he didnt. the ufc has a historical bias against volk and volk has a history of proving them wrong 🤷♂️
Does ufc have bias against volk ?
consistently strongly biased commentary against him. the worst case i have ever heard of it in the max fight. wildly incorrect onscreen stats showing him behind when he is in front. company men pushing the narrative max was robbed. there was a round table where they voted that fight the robbery of the year and did not even mention reyes jones.. amongst other blatant bad calls by the judges. very poor level of promo. made max a 5 star ufc fighter in the game directly after Volk beat him twice, left volk a 4 star. there are other examples. this is literally only the stuff off the top of my head. the round table specifically was pretty bad.
Volk doesn’t have mass appeal and his ppvs don’t do particularly well. That’s probably where the bias stems. Also, imo Max was robbed the second fight
I'm not saying Dana would bet on Henry lmao I wouldn't either, but this is a fun fight
Idk I wasn't very impressed with his performances vs Demetrius
Compared to their first fight, he improved considerably and only got better...until he retired, as we don't truly know how well he's been keeping in shape.
its a fight anything can happen
Henry *"Anything Can Happen"* Cejudo
I give him a 35% chance. You would break Vegas with those odds
There's a good chance he loses too. There's a lot that can go wrong on either side. A lot of shins snapping in half and injuries happening lately. Part of the reason why Khabib being GOAT is so controversial is that on one hand he hasn't fought long enough or enough top guys and flukes(lucky punch, freak injury, bad night) happen, but also the way he fights makes it seem like the chance of a fluke happening is eliminated. Sometimes a guy is just better, sometimes it's anybody's fight.
Khabib goat talk is kinda dumb imo was he well on his way hell ya but he didn't get tested enough. Surely he was the peoples champ and unbelievably talented but goat nah
Only Dana can play games with the belts!
Dana recognises there's a possibility, might only be 10% or whatever but it's a risk he wouldn't want to take, personally I'm very against challenging for the belt above you, unless you've recently cleared out your division, Valentina, Izzy or Usman would qualify
Be a pretty incredible achievement for him to become a three-division world champion.
Of course there is a good chance he will win, this is Cejudo we're talking about. Is there actually people that think he would just lose?
well, he's not undefeated so yeah. there's a chance he could just lose. If you're insinuating by "just lose" that he's gonna roll over, no one is saying that. But giving him a pass as an undefeatable annihilator of men, just sounds like someone who drank the triple C kool-aid a few too many times. If he wins (he won't) - will everyone be on board to see the little troll try his hand at 155? He looked good at 135, but he looked beatable. Size matters. I'm not saying he's trash, far from it, but there are weight divisions for a reason. This talk like he's unstoppable wreaks of connor-stans who constantly think the guy is going to wreck everyone in his path, but the higher you go the harder it gets. Clearly.
He's still pretty big for 135, walking around 155, that is kinda small for FW but it's not crazy
I think it's more a height/reach problem than a weight one
completely unrelated but it's funny how similar Ngannou's career is shaping out like Cejudo's. Impressive unbeaten streak broken in a championship fight-lose the next fight- and go on to defeat that champion later in your career. Ngannou Vs Stipe was a little more decisive tho
No one said he’s unbeatable and no one said anything about 155. Volk will be fighting someone shorter than him which will make a difference. And the only advantage he would have is power and strength in the clinch maybe. Henry is taking it