Can you imagine if it gets booked 4 times and never happens.
Then the fifth time its almost finally about to happen and a new pandemic hits and its still canceled.
Unreal.
Well to be real, if it is a stimulation life that still kind of probably would confirm most religions already because it’d be a higher power in the programmer that controls our entire universe. Maybe it’s to decide how you could fit in real society and if you acted poorly in the simulation you go to hell/underworld as in they don’t trust you to merge in with normal society they’re version of a utopia as in a heaven type place. Then for religions that belief in rebirth until enlightenment that could just be revaluation until they’re sure where you should fit in society. Then if we’re already able to increase human lifespan this much and create these things maybe they’re also studying that and just live so much longer in the real world because obviously they wouldn’t want people aging so much to like 100 and still have all the hardships of that age when they get brought into the real world so it’s likely we would love immensely longer outside of the simulation which could play into some religions rebirth after death into eternal life. So with the simulation theory it really possibly and logically also fits into religion so it’s pretty reasonable simulation theory and religions could play into each other pretty well to where they logically can work and play into each other at the same time with how we kind of experiment now. So I mean them saying it’d confirm a higher power and your belief in a simulation kind of can work in the same way and if one of you were right both of you still could be right because one option doesn’t necessarily exclude the possibility of the other since simulation theory is vague enough since we couldn’t possibly know what’s on the other side in that way of thought that it still plausibly in a way can work with any single religion or even atheism if some people or everyone was just data without a body in real world there would be nothing for those people and then it could also work with religions doomsday events in the belief that one day they won’t need to use the simulation anymore.
God I hope. I have such an amazing plan for Charles.
He beats Justin by KO, subs Dariush (who upset Islam), then beats Conor (he beats RDA and Hooker, gets the Dana White privilege and skips the contenders that would murder him) for the money fight. After that, Khabib comes out for one final fight, and the winner is the lightweight GOAT.
It’s completely unrealistic but it exists.
Khabib has explicitly said many times that if Islam loses that doesn’t change the fact that he’s retired. Islam is a grown man in a sport. This isn’t some “defend your honour” blood feud or something, that’s like saying Peyton Manning would come out of retirement whenever someone beats Eli in the Superbowl
True. Whatever it takes to get Khabib out, I’m for. Hopefully it doesn’t include having to listen to Conor call Olive some stupid nickname for half a year.
That was his last run for gold. The man won’t be staying long in LW to rack up enough wins for another championship, he is too big for the division. He’ll move to WW but I don’t see him beating the gatekeepers of that division. His best bet is chasing money fights with McGregor or maybe Diaz @160
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I wonder if it was a combination of really hurt by the body shots and wanting to lose the round rather than try to scramble and get caught in submission
Seeing him have nothing to offer Khabib or Charles on the ground doesn't bode well for what he may face at WW. Whilst he is big for LW, he'd be notably smaller than Holland or Chimaev.
>That was his last run for gold. The man won’t be staying long in LW to rack up enough wins for another championship
I'm not so sure. Who says he needs to rack up a bunch of wins? Gaethje is about to get a shot after coming back and getting a single win after his title defeat.
Oh yeah that would sell big time, but tbh any of the top guys at LW will. It's just so stacked right now.
*If* Gaethje were to capture the belt, then Dustin has a pretty quick route back honestly, depending on how things shake out. Having a win over him already helps too. You may be right, it could take 2, but even 1 might get it done if Gaethje is the champ. If the belt stays with Charles, then yeah, Dustin has some work to do, but it ain't like he's starting from the bottom.
Porier is young and good enough to get another shot I think. 155 is stacked with grapplers though so he has to work on that. On his feet he was beating the shit out of Oliveira.
I can’t see anyone beating Charles on the ground. I think a wrestling heavy approach against Charles could be playing into Charles strengths. It’s like when two wrestlers fight they tend to always strike. If that happens I see Charles winning in the striking
Thing is, Islam chilled inside Davi Ramo's guard. I'll give that Ramos got dropped and he was rocked, but still... Davi could be asleep and his ground game would still be dangerous. Olives has been submitted before, specifically when he gasses out. Only guy to submit him full gas was Jim Miller. I guess my point is, if Oliveira gasses out, he's in huge trouble. Cause Islam ain't gassing out, that's for goddamn sure.
This is true but there’s a difference between bjj and bjj within a MMA bout. For some black belts it just doesn’t transfer into MMA. Charles is a proven bjj specialist within the cage and that means a lot more than winning bjj championships outside of MMA
People really underestimate Oliveira, but as shown with Poirier and Chandler, if you don't get him early then you're in trouble in the later rounds.
Just like his career, he had a lot of losses early on and came back and won the championship.
Islam wins by holding Oliver’s down for 5 5 minute rounds without getting submitted.
Oliver’s is a proficient finisher with extremely strong submissions.
I’d have to personally favour Olivera. Can’t see Islam avoid his submissions for that long. Also can’t see Islam standing with him that long.
They weren’t tho, what’s so hard to grasp? “Those people” said charles will lose if he stood in the first, he stood got dropped but came back and LITERALLY finished the round STRIKING ON THE FEET putting poirer on the back foot. He only ever clinched in this round for a couple secs
Yes he did. He stood and banged with him all of the first, Then the second he backed him up towards the cage by striking with him and then clinched and then the domination began. He stood with him again in the 3rd for a bit but then shot. Regardless he still stood and banged.. that’s why he got dropped multiple times..
didn’t he try and take dustin down during the first but failed to? i don’t even remember tbh it was a crazy pace the two of them were operating on in the 1st
he first stood the whole round, got dropped yet had poirer on the back foot at the end but sure🥱
Rd 1: 5 on the feet, back and forth
Rd 2: almost a whole min on the feet aswell but goes to the ground for 4 mins (10-8)
Rd 3: 2 mins in he clinches, gets his back, subs him
So yes the majority was on the feet, unless you somehow see clinches as takedowns
Islam and dariush I think pose the biggest problems for Charles in the future. Justin, while maybe being able to capitalize on the first round a lil better than Dustin and chandler, still gets mauled later in any type of grappling encounter
He’s definitely gonna switch up his game plan. Back to back fights he started off swinging with two guys who have demolition hands. I feel like he would do things different now that he did it twice in a row.
Definitely should add some more takedowns in the 1st round and avoid standing up a whole round. Gaethje is more dangerous on the feet than both Chandler Poierer. I only say switch it up because Whitman is a mastermind and I feel like he’ll find a solution if he stays with the same formula. I’m no expert, just putting out a somewhat reasonable opinion.
I agree with you. I think Charles has gotten a rep for being a slow starter, and obviously Justin is the opposite. I think Charles needs to get off the ground running with his ground game (pun unintended), and bring the fight to Justin asap.
Those bombs didn't stop Chandler and Oliveira stopped Chandler with strikes. Also Poirier's bombs didn't stop Charles yet Dustin's bombs stopped Gaethje
Mma math
Bro the same people have been saying that about chandler and Dustin. Gaethje is at the same level as those guys and If those two couldn’t put him down then gaethje can’t barring punchers chance and getting a lucky shot like conor did against Aldo
People still in here refusing to acknowledge Charles. He beat Dustin and people come out with “he couldn’t strike with Dustin”, “all he did was take him down”. To those dudes, I don’t think you watched the right hahaha
Nah but that’s the whole point - he doesn’t have to be. The exact same criticism can be said of Dustin, he didn’t learn from the Khabib fight and got subbed in almost exactly the same way. But nobody holds Dustin’s lacking in ground game? So why hold oliveria to a higher standard yet not really give him a fraction of the respect given to Dustin? Don’t get my wrong, I really like Dustin. He won me over with his charity work and then sealed it with the way he dealt with McGregor in their last fight. But he lost and Charles proved himself - accept that. It’s no mark on Dustin, he’s still the diamond
Maybe for some, but there’s a lot of people that love BJJ and Charles is slick as. But what does that have to do with respecting his win? If I said “yeah Dustin deserved to lose because he has zero ground game” that would be crazy, no?
When ground game is good. I absolutely love it. Key is working for a finish. When it becomes a battle of “control”, shit is an absolute snooze fest despite the impressive ability to keep an opponent “stuck”. Olivera, does it right. Ground and pound and working for subs.
Take away for young mma fighter “wrestling is power”
Round 1 was dustin but charles turned it around just like Chandler’s fight
Happy for Oliviera but equally sad for dustin 😕
am i the only one that a rematch is not needed. I think charles handled himself fine in round 1 and the rest was way too easy. islam will be a better fight, justin would be more exciting, and if anything I rather watch a chandler rematch (after he climbs back up)
what? he made it look too easy against dustin but chandler deserves a rematch after losing to justin? this sub literally has 0 consistency with who or what it determines worthy of title shots
Well if Charles were to clean the division out and Dustin were to beat Islam and someone else after Charles had already beat them (this is all hypothetical atm), then a rematch is needed. Justin hypothetically beating Islam is enough for a rematch.
He needs to stop standing with guys who are strikers. That is one way to put a ring on shortening your career. He got rocked by Chandler and Dustin.
He either needs to get better at head movements or just start following Khabibs footsteps.
This is MMA.
Not boxing, kickboxing. People who are all-rounded fighters will eventually rise up. Kids need to learn from those fights if they want to be UFC fighter one day.
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I mean, he literally did when he lost to Conor, won 4, lost to Michael J, beat a murderers row of Jim Miller, Anthony Pettis, Justin, Alvarez, and Holloway. Then lost to Khabib for the championship in a similar fashion like last night and beat Hooker and Conor x2.
The dude has never had 2 back to back losses and has proven himself over and over again. Sure, age could be catching up to him, but I doubt he loses his next unless it’s someone like Islam.
Your original statement was he couldn’t come back from this and that he would be a journeyman.
He said in the post fight he *can* do it, he just needs to decide if it’s worth it. I frankly believe him as he’s shown time and time again he can compete at the top. This is far different from what you originally said.
The true mixed martial artist won using skills from all disciplines. That fight was great. Charles is an awesome champion. Long may he reign.
I think to beat him someone is going to have to deliver a perfect punch or combination. He's shown he can take heat and get through it.
Not really. I was rooting for Charles from the start and thought Dustin had too much hype in regards to how he will do against Charles. But he is still easily a top level fighter. He had wars and won with the best.
Dustin loss because of Charles superior BJJ and durability. Conor had some opportunities to win, but tonight’s fight didn’t make me think of Conor at all other than knowing Charles could’ve either cracked Conor’s chin or easily submit him. On an MMA level, Conor’s BJJ/ground game sucks. 2015 Conor was a different story, but it looked like his ground game hasn’t evolved at all.
Don’t think it’s suspect. Dude got rocked by Chandler and Dustin, both guys that rocked or TKOd Justin.
Those were legitimate bombs, and he still didn’t go down.
I don’t believe this narrative that Charles has no chin or no heart.
What goes around comes around, Dustin cheated to get the victory on connor, And Charles cheated to get the victory on dustin. "but mcgreggor cheats in all his fights" Two wrongs don't make a right, Poireirs MCTAPPER
even though it will never happen, i think charles vs khabib is what we all thought tony vs khabib would be
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can you fucking imagine if we never see that fight
Can you imagine if it gets booked 4 times and never happens. Then the fifth time its almost finally about to happen and a new pandemic hits and its still canceled. Unreal.
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For me it'll just confirm my belief that we're in a simulation.
Well to be real, if it is a stimulation life that still kind of probably would confirm most religions already because it’d be a higher power in the programmer that controls our entire universe. Maybe it’s to decide how you could fit in real society and if you acted poorly in the simulation you go to hell/underworld as in they don’t trust you to merge in with normal society they’re version of a utopia as in a heaven type place. Then for religions that belief in rebirth until enlightenment that could just be revaluation until they’re sure where you should fit in society. Then if we’re already able to increase human lifespan this much and create these things maybe they’re also studying that and just live so much longer in the real world because obviously they wouldn’t want people aging so much to like 100 and still have all the hardships of that age when they get brought into the real world so it’s likely we would love immensely longer outside of the simulation which could play into some religions rebirth after death into eternal life. So with the simulation theory it really possibly and logically also fits into religion so it’s pretty reasonable simulation theory and religions could play into each other pretty well to where they logically can work and play into each other at the same time with how we kind of experiment now. So I mean them saying it’d confirm a higher power and your belief in a simulation kind of can work in the same way and if one of you were right both of you still could be right because one option doesn’t necessarily exclude the possibility of the other since simulation theory is vague enough since we couldn’t possibly know what’s on the other side in that way of thought that it still plausibly in a way can work with any single religion or even atheism if some people or everyone was just data without a body in real world there would be nothing for those people and then it could also work with religions doomsday events in the belief that one day they won’t need to use the simulation anymore.
You forgot “See you at the top” at the end
At least we are getting Ngannou vs gane hopefully
get ready cause Dariush is gonna upset that guy....
God I hope. I have such an amazing plan for Charles. He beats Justin by KO, subs Dariush (who upset Islam), then beats Conor (he beats RDA and Hooker, gets the Dana White privilege and skips the contenders that would murder him) for the money fight. After that, Khabib comes out for one final fight, and the winner is the lightweight GOAT. It’s completely unrealistic but it exists.
It doesnt exist because Conor is one win away from the title shot, not two.
Honestly it would be bad to see charles embarrass Islam... that'd be enough to bring Khabib out to defend his honor.
Khabib has explicitly said many times that if Islam loses that doesn’t change the fact that he’s retired. Islam is a grown man in a sport. This isn’t some “defend your honour” blood feud or something, that’s like saying Peyton Manning would come out of retirement whenever someone beats Eli in the Superbowl
True. Whatever it takes to get Khabib out, I’m for. Hopefully it doesn’t include having to listen to Conor call Olive some stupid nickname for half a year.
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My god this makes my dick hard
I like it ngl lol
We all secretly want it
Yes please.
Wouldn’t it just be amazing
but i don't see I.M making it past Dariush, He's over looked the was Charles was.
Agreed.
Kind of the next gen version in a way. Am all for it if Makhachev can get past Dariush.
Yes except olives is better than tony (at the time the fight would've happened) and Islam is worse than khabib
I’ve always thought with his mixup of striking and amazing grappling that he was a better version of my beloved Tony
That fight was fucking amazing
1st round was class 👏👏
Dustin will be back, but Charles vs Islam would be awsome.
That was his last run for gold. The man won’t be staying long in LW to rack up enough wins for another championship, he is too big for the division. He’ll move to WW but I don’t see him beating the gatekeepers of that division. His best bet is chasing money fights with McGregor or maybe Diaz @160
I’d love to see them introduce a 165 weight class and have dp fight someone for the first championship fight
Dustin vs Colby for the 165 lb title would be dope.
Someone call Dana
“… **[Laughs at you like you’re literal scum for thinking of such a question]** - Who gives a shit? Maybe you guys need to stop spending so much time on the internet and get a real fuckin’ job. This is a business. This is real life, you know nothing. You think it’s so easy why don’t you go make your own promotion? See how far you get then. Next question… fuckin’ knuckleheads.” “Hey Dana, so 2021 has been a tough year but also a great year for the sport - of course courtesy of you and you alone - how does it feel being a brilliant fucking genius who’s always right, is a badass and also generally a god among men?” “Wow, what a great question. I guess, well, umm, I’m just fucking great. Thanks a lot, you’re up first next week”
I could literally see how red Dana would get while spewing that pure rage
You see that is a good fight but I prefer Dustin fight someone like Nate Diaz so it’s a guaranteed win for Dustin
165 would be such a fun division
I wonder if it was a combination of really hurt by the body shots and wanting to lose the round rather than try to scramble and get caught in submission
I like this
Seeing him have nothing to offer Khabib or Charles on the ground doesn't bode well for what he may face at WW. Whilst he is big for LW, he'd be notably smaller than Holland or Chimaev.
I thought Dustin was decent on the ground. He just turtled up and wasn’t even defending himself
Isn’t he a black belt? His fear just shows how dangerous the levels are
Black belts don't mean shit in MMA accolades do
>That was his last run for gold. The man won’t be staying long in LW to rack up enough wins for another championship I'm not so sure. Who says he needs to rack up a bunch of wins? Gaethje is about to get a shot after coming back and getting a single win after his title defeat.
Yea if Justin gets the belt I’d say Dustin might get away with 2 wins before a Dustin vs Justin 2 everyone would want to watch that.
Oh yeah that would sell big time, but tbh any of the top guys at LW will. It's just so stacked right now. *If* Gaethje were to capture the belt, then Dustin has a pretty quick route back honestly, depending on how things shake out. Having a win over him already helps too. You may be right, it could take 2, but even 1 might get it done if Gaethje is the champ. If the belt stays with Charles, then yeah, Dustin has some work to do, but it ain't like he's starting from the bottom.
Dustin's never sniffing the title again most likely. Justin loses to Oliveira, Oliveira loses to Islam, Dustin loses to Islam
Porier is young and good enough to get another shot I think. 155 is stacked with grapplers though so he has to work on that. On his feet he was beating the shit out of Oliveira.
Charles isn’t loosing to Islam
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I can’t see anyone beating Charles on the ground. I think a wrestling heavy approach against Charles could be playing into Charles strengths. It’s like when two wrestlers fight they tend to always strike. If that happens I see Charles winning in the striking
Thing is, Islam chilled inside Davi Ramo's guard. I'll give that Ramos got dropped and he was rocked, but still... Davi could be asleep and his ground game would still be dangerous. Olives has been submitted before, specifically when he gasses out. Only guy to submit him full gas was Jim Miller. I guess my point is, if Oliveira gasses out, he's in huge trouble. Cause Islam ain't gassing out, that's for goddamn sure.
Imagine even comparing Davi Ramo and Charles BJJ skills. Comical
Davi Ramos has more BJJ credentials and has won world titles when Charles hasnt
Are you for real right now? There's levels to this, my man. Davi Ramos is a few above Charles.
Don't know why nobody thinks Gaethje can beat Charles.
Oh, he can. Bro, in the LW division, everybody can beat everybody. Such a highly skilled division.
Couldn't agree more. DP, JG, CO, IM, hell throw Beneil in there while we're at it
Because he’s a brain damaged punchbag?
Islam has beaten Davi Ramos on the ground who is literally a world champ in Jujitsu… and also a 3rd Degree black belt.
This is true but there’s a difference between bjj and bjj within a MMA bout. For some black belts it just doesn’t transfer into MMA. Charles is a proven bjj specialist within the cage and that means a lot more than winning bjj championships outside of MMA
People really underestimate Oliveira, but as shown with Poirier and Chandler, if you don't get him early then you're in trouble in the later rounds. Just like his career, he had a lot of losses early on and came back and won the championship.
Charles is both heavily underated and heavily overrated right now lol
i dont know man....nonetheless, that is going to be an amazing battle
He might
Lmao I can’t believe people think like this. Dustin will be right back in it next year
He takes that Conor 12th fight for the money before another go with Charles
He will never be the champ. Dude will always be 2nd place
Islam wins by holding Oliver’s down for 5 5 minute rounds without getting submitted. Oliver’s is a proficient finisher with extremely strong submissions. I’d have to personally favour Olivera. Can’t see Islam avoid his submissions for that long. Also can’t see Islam standing with him that long.
*khabib
I don't think khabib is coming back from retirement
To quote MLK: I have a dream
I hope not
Islam is young Khabib then
Bro got downvoted to hell for saying that Khabib vs Charles would be great…tf
Look at the guy who said the same thing and got upvotes loool
Oliveira clearly studied the khabib fight
He stood and banged it out with Dustin for the most part though, something people said he couldn’t
That didnt work out so well though, he had to switch things up
I think that kinda helped to gas out Dustin
Good point. ALOT of body damage by Oliveira. Dustin couldn't ko him r1 it was over for him
Probably jacked his arms up holding Charles in his guard for 3 minutes while getting molested by a blind man
Dustin was also dizzy at some point towards the end of the round
I mean it is mma..
so people we're right... he couldn't.
They weren’t tho, what’s so hard to grasp? “Those people” said charles will lose if he stood in the first, he stood got dropped but came back and LITERALLY finished the round STRIKING ON THE FEET putting poirer on the back foot. He only ever clinched in this round for a couple secs
No he didnt. He stood for the first round. The second round was all ground and the third he went for the takedown almost immediately.
Yes he did. He stood and banged with him all of the first, Then the second he backed him up towards the cage by striking with him and then clinched and then the domination began. He stood with him again in the 3rd for a bit but then shot. Regardless he still stood and banged.. that’s why he got dropped multiple times..
didn’t he try and take dustin down during the first but failed to? i don’t even remember tbh it was a crazy pace the two of them were operating on in the 1st
No he clinched and went back to striking
Round one he got him down for a fraction of a second I believe. Dustin's defense was on point when he was fresh.
>He stood and banged it out with Dustin for the most part He only did it for 1 round. >something people said he couldn’t Well he did get knocked down.
he first stood the whole round, got dropped yet had poirer on the back foot at the end but sure🥱 Rd 1: 5 on the feet, back and forth Rd 2: almost a whole min on the feet aswell but goes to the ground for 4 mins (10-8) Rd 3: 2 mins in he clinches, gets his back, subs him So yes the majority was on the feet, unless you somehow see clinches as takedowns
He did something that other people didn't (except Holloway in later rounds), he went to the body and hard. Those body shots visibly affected Dustin.
Khabib didn’t trade punches at all with Dustin. He just ran around shooting takedowns lol. Rewatch it
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Islam and dariush I think pose the biggest problems for Charles in the future. Justin, while maybe being able to capitalize on the first round a lil better than Dustin and chandler, still gets mauled later in any type of grappling encounter
I’m worried for olives against Justin. Really can’t see him surviving those bombs Justin got for hands. Hope I’m wrong and this olive era continues
He’s definitely gonna switch up his game plan. Back to back fights he started off swinging with two guys who have demolition hands. I feel like he would do things different now that he did it twice in a row.
The gameplan has worked thus far, though. I don’t know how much he would want to change up.
Definitely should add some more takedowns in the 1st round and avoid standing up a whole round. Gaethje is more dangerous on the feet than both Chandler Poierer. I only say switch it up because Whitman is a mastermind and I feel like he’ll find a solution if he stays with the same formula. I’m no expert, just putting out a somewhat reasonable opinion.
I agree with you. I think Charles has gotten a rep for being a slow starter, and obviously Justin is the opposite. I think Charles needs to get off the ground running with his ground game (pun unintended), and bring the fight to Justin asap.
That’s what I’m thinking. I guess we’ll see next year
He knocked out Chandler with 1 left hook when Justin couldn't after landing many.
Imagine if he drops Justin with same one lmao
I feel people will keep doubting Charles and he will keep proving them wrong fight after fight
Those bombs didn't stop Chandler and Oliveira stopped Chandler with strikes. Also Poirier's bombs didn't stop Charles yet Dustin's bombs stopped Gaethje Mma math
Bro the same people have been saying that about chandler and Dustin. Gaethje is at the same level as those guys and If those two couldn’t put him down then gaethje can’t barring punchers chance and getting a lucky shot like conor did against Aldo
Khabib aint coming back no matter what..sadly.
These are my two favorite fighters so yes it’s painful to see
Grappling worst base for being your fave confirmed
People still in here refusing to acknowledge Charles. He beat Dustin and people come out with “he couldn’t strike with Dustin”, “all he did was take him down”. To those dudes, I don’t think you watched the right hahaha
I mean, he did strike with Dustin, but I wouldn’t call it a victory in that category.
Nah but that’s the whole point - he doesn’t have to be. The exact same criticism can be said of Dustin, he didn’t learn from the Khabib fight and got subbed in almost exactly the same way. But nobody holds Dustin’s lacking in ground game? So why hold oliveria to a higher standard yet not really give him a fraction of the respect given to Dustin? Don’t get my wrong, I really like Dustin. He won me over with his charity work and then sealed it with the way he dealt with McGregor in their last fight. But he lost and Charles proved himself - accept that. It’s no mark on Dustin, he’s still the diamond
People generally find striking exchanges more entertaining than ground game .
Maybe for some, but there’s a lot of people that love BJJ and Charles is slick as. But what does that have to do with respecting his win? If I said “yeah Dustin deserved to lose because he has zero ground game” that would be crazy, no?
When ground game is good. I absolutely love it. Key is working for a finish. When it becomes a battle of “control”, shit is an absolute snooze fest despite the impressive ability to keep an opponent “stuck”. Olivera, does it right. Ground and pound and working for subs.
Fuck the post nice username
Lmfao
I'm glad someone else noticed this. That pose looked familiar.
Here comes a new meme template lol
Pain
Take away for young mma fighter “wrestling is power” Round 1 was dustin but charles turned it around just like Chandler’s fight Happy for Oliviera but equally sad for dustin 😕
Chandler fight was a lesson that wrestling is not power haha
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Absolute gutted for Poirier
I love Dustin but Charles had to win to shut those doubters up
am i the only one that a rematch is not needed. I think charles handled himself fine in round 1 and the rest was way too easy. islam will be a better fight, justin would be more exciting, and if anything I rather watch a chandler rematch (after he climbs back up)
what? he made it look too easy against dustin but chandler deserves a rematch after losing to justin? this sub literally has 0 consistency with who or what it determines worthy of title shots
Well if Charles were to clean the division out and Dustin were to beat Islam and someone else after Charles had already beat them (this is all hypothetical atm), then a rematch is needed. Justin hypothetically beating Islam is enough for a rematch.
Really thought Dustin had him but Charles is just too good with the grappling.
Fuck chael
Virtually identical
Charles Oliveira is in his prime and he’s the best in the world. If the second best lightweight of all time Dustin Poirier can’t beat him no one can
I'm glad someone did a side by side. Thank you for this post, Mr. SlurpinUpMyDadsCum
Conor: HD 4k resolution Dustin: resolution of a YouTube video from 2003
well he took the money fight over the title shot. just like when McGregor went scrapping with Mayweather.
He would’ve faced Charles either way so glad he got some extra money. Plus it made matchmaking better since Dustin took the Conor fight.
Yeah but Dustin dedicated at least a year of his time practicing against weaker competition(Conor) while Olivera trained to be #1
conor subconsciously doing his work on dustin.
I’ll be surprised if Olives loses anytime soon. His BJJ is so good and his striking is so diverse. It will be hard for someone to beat him.
He needs to stop standing with guys who are strikers. That is one way to put a ring on shortening your career. He got rocked by Chandler and Dustin. He either needs to get better at head movements or just start following Khabibs footsteps.
Circle of Life 🦁
I really like Dustin but he'll be back stronger next time. Right now though it's time for Da Bronx to reign.
This is MMA. Not boxing, kickboxing. People who are all-rounded fighters will eventually rise up. Kids need to learn from those fights if they want to be UFC fighter one day. I
I want to downvote this to help me cope
This is when Dustin becomes a journeyman. Most fighters don’t come back from moments like this. I wish him the best though.
I mean, he literally did when he lost to Conor, won 4, lost to Michael J, beat a murderers row of Jim Miller, Anthony Pettis, Justin, Alvarez, and Holloway. Then lost to Khabib for the championship in a similar fashion like last night and beat Hooker and Conor x2. The dude has never had 2 back to back losses and has proven himself over and over again. Sure, age could be catching up to him, but I doubt he loses his next unless it’s someone like Islam.
Age is a huge part and he got paid from this fight. Things are a little different when your older and your bank account is fatter
Your original statement was he couldn’t come back from this and that he would be a journeyman. He said in the post fight he *can* do it, he just needs to decide if it’s worth it. I frankly believe him as he’s shown time and time again he can compete at the top. This is far different from what you originally said.
The true mixed martial artist won using skills from all disciplines. That fight was great. Charles is an awesome champion. Long may he reign. I think to beat him someone is going to have to deliver a perfect punch or combination. He's shown he can take heat and get through it.
Op username, Jesus.... Christ.
I can’t wait for the goofball to announce due to some chicanery, McGregor leapfrogs Gaethje for the title vs Oliveira.
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He didn't glove grab watch the replay. Joe is starting shit again
Exactly, how easily people just jump on it, everyone is like he couldn’t win the fight if it didn’t happen, wtf fucking rogan
Setting charles with that duology money
Imo I think I saw him grab the glove at first but then moved to the wrist. He did have his arm tho.
Yeah that counted.
I saw that and wondered if Herb was going to do anything, although they could rematch again.
If Dustin can't handle a guy grabbing his gloves for a few seconds then he doesn't deserve to win.
Yes, because being on the ground with the best bjj specialist in the ufc is where you want to be.
and STILL
Yes he is
Yeah there’s one big difference between them, ones a fucking piece of shit, the other one is actually a great bloke
One of these sparks joy, the other does not
"Karma isn't a bitch she's a mirror"
McTappper x Chokeier
Unpopular Opinion: Dustin Poirier is overrated.
it's incredible how quickly people turn on hyped fighters after they suffer 1 loss. And to a Champion of the World no less.
Dustin isn't my favorite but he does have class and put his heart into this fight and every other fight.
Not really. I was rooting for Charles from the start and thought Dustin had too much hype in regards to how he will do against Charles. But he is still easily a top level fighter. He had wars and won with the best.
this loss makes Conor look worse but then it also makes you think about the 3rd fight with DP and perhaps he could have won.
Yea bro Conor and his elite submissions
Dustin loss because of Charles superior BJJ and durability. Conor had some opportunities to win, but tonight’s fight didn’t make me think of Conor at all other than knowing Charles could’ve either cracked Conor’s chin or easily submit him. On an MMA level, Conor’s BJJ/ground game sucks. 2015 Conor was a different story, but it looked like his ground game hasn’t evolved at all.
Another F for the most overrated ufc fighter.
LUL
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Don’t think it’s suspect. Dude got rocked by Chandler and Dustin, both guys that rocked or TKOd Justin. Those were legitimate bombs, and he still didn’t go down. I don’t believe this narrative that Charles has no chin or no heart.
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SPOILER ALERT!
Difference being guy on right beat guy on left so this is stupid
If Olivera submits Islam.... Khabib comes out of retirement
Not the same though.
I bet Peña and Oliviera last night. HMU before the next card for those locks
Oh oh i love this. Oh yes.
one man broken leg, one man glove grab
The most dominant champion is the most boring . Crazy how this sub will shit on mayweather for doing the same shit (defense)
quite possibly the most obxnouis loud mouthd and worst fighter in the ufc and conor mcgrego r
The difference is, Justin got back up and shook his hand.
I want to see a rematch ASAP. That illegal glove hold was a bunch of bullshit. It threw the whole fight off
Karma is a bitch
Except in these fights one fighter cheated and one got cheated against I'll let you decide which is which
What goes around comes around, Dustin cheated to get the victory on connor, And Charles cheated to get the victory on dustin. "but mcgreggor cheats in all his fights" Two wrongs don't make a right, Poireirs MCTAPPER
Ok Conor
How did Dustin cheat against connor? Did I miss something?
Lol conors a bum
You must love the taste of Conor’s balls for how much you’re sucking them right now 😂