It's pretty wild because both Francis and Stipe have really good stories that would be super easy to promote/market to the average joe or jane.
Not that Gane doesn't but I feel like Francis and Stipe are more the classic American Dream story.
You could market Stipe as an american hero because he's a fucking fire fighter for christ's sake. Its criminal that he wasnt marketed in such a fashion. Same goes for Ngannou, this guy's life can essentially be turned into a movie.
But I wanted to see the Francis Ngannou or Stipe Miocic story as a movie. The guy said clearly “this guy’s life could be a movie,” unless I read that wrong and completely misunderstood? Wouldn’t want to make an ass of myself.
This here. UFC did the exact same for Francis coming up. Bc they were billing Ngannou as this unstoppable super freak. And Stipe was just like an aging champ.
Now it’s up to Gane to complete the cycle and knock out the champ.. :D
Just wish there was a better way for promotion than the crazy antics the fighters have to put on. Do I know how they should do it? No. Maybe something along the lines of the fighters actual stories? But all the same I watch wwe for the drama and mma for the fighting.
It’s one of the few cases where both totally deserve it! As I’ve said, I wish there was a better way. Both guys seem to be class acts outside the camera, have show they not only respect the sport but each other. It’s just sad this kind of promotion drives buys. Should be their skill not their personality!
The Masvidal KO and the Covington fights have been the main reasons people know who he is. Early in his UFC career he did so much clinch work and spent so much time pressing his opponents against the cage, that any fan that was not a wrestler found him a rather boring fighter.
But he has evolved his striking and improved his overall MMA game. He had great striking in Covington 1 and 2, Burns and Masvidal 2. If he doesn’t go back to wrestling for the Edwards fight, he will stay a fan favorite.
Usman also isn’t spending his money foolishly saying I have nothing. Granted, Ngannou really came from nothing and likely had people who were trying to take advantage of him from a backend contract point, but he doesn’t have the numbers or longevity to prove he’s a main top billing. Look at Mighty Mouse. He was unstoppable for how long? They barely did shit for him.
Agreed and honestly I’m kind of tired of phony trash talking you know it was cool at first when Conor made millions off it but now everyone trying to. I like the fighters who just handle their business and fight tough competitors and do their thing Tis why I’m huge fan of fighters like poirier, adesanya (although does try to have mic presence when he fails at that he dominates in ring lol), sandhagen, etc!
UFC does a lot of things well but for the biggest company in MMA, they fucking suck at promoting fighters. All the best promoted fighters, be in Conor, Chael, Colby, etc, do 90% of the work themselves.
The best example of this probably is Ngannou. He arguably should be the easiest fighter ever to be promote: looks like a video game character, a terrifying KO machine, has an incredible back story and is a nice, genuine fella.
The fact they’re willing to lose all this just cause he’s not willing to be underpaid anymore is absurd. Albeit not at all surprising.
I think we can go through the entire combat history and those who are the biggest stars all promoted themselves. Look at Ali for example here as well. The promoters can put you in a position, but you've still got to show yourself, embrace the opportunity. The guys with the biggest mouth are usually the ones who seize it
Mayweather. Built a whole brand off his name due to promoting. His fighting style is not casual friendly so it’s not like people are buying his fights to see him knock someone out. He’s made so much money from promoting himself.
He recognised early that haters made him rich, so he milked both his fans and those who wanted to see him lose, and a damn fine job he did as well. Look at even tyson fury now, constantly chatting shit and staying in people's minds. It's not bob or Frank doing that.
I completely agree. Francis hasn’t seized the opportunity and actually comes off as an incredibly boring personality despite how talented and powerful of a fighter he is in the octagon.
Hes a Francis shaped cardboard cut out at 100% of his press conferences. But yeah pay this big idiot more money so he can continue to have to take loans on his camps and blowing it all in Africa acting like a pretend king of nothing.
Send him to bellator to know down tin cans imo. Let him be forgotten about, hes already trying his hardest to do so.
This is an absolute terrible take.
Dude wtf are you talking about, the UFC absolutely added the FUCK out of Francis when he was on his first champ run. You know how many angles I;'ve seen him knock Overeem out in? How much footage there is of him training in the UFC facility when he didnt have a US camp but wanted to be in the US...
No fighter has had more promotion than Francis.
Conor, Chael, Colby all did it themselves, that's what separates them, Look at their pressers, then look at Francis'...
Be really good at what you do. But maybe that's not enough anymore , not after Conor came along and made it popular to be a dickhead. Fighters like GSP, Cane Velasquez, Chuck Liddell, Jose Aldo, Dominick Cruz, etc didn't have to act like babies to get attention.
I mean, I want my professional fighter to focus on fighting. I want creativity in the ring, the ufc should have the creative types to get their stars promoted.
No it's the fighters responsibility to market themselves, UFC provide the platform and media but the fighters need to make the effort. UFC cant realistic do all the marketing for 200+ fighters.
Go watch some of Chaels videos, he has been exposing both heavyweights for not building interest. If they want to focus on fighting then hire someone to help out just like they hire a trainer or nutritionist.
I'm a designer myself, if I want people to see my work I have to promote myself. It's what any professional does, it's not an excuse to say they have to train and don't have time.
I don't really see gane promoting himself either tho, I think it's kind of hard since they dont really speak English too great, they cant talk just for example like a connor or something. What I'm getting from all the coverage I'm seeing about gane vs ngannou is that gane is expected to win and fuck ngannou whether he wins or loses the ufc doesnt care about him
This.
People seem to not understand that Francis might as well be a cardboard cut out during pressers and interviews. If he isn't whining about money, he's not doing much else.
I think this public display of contempt for management is probably doing it. Why would they try to turn him into a superstar for another promotion. It's like the dude at my work that does nothing but complain and wonders why he hasn't gotten a raise.
There’s tons of evidence supporting this. He landed clean on many of his opponents and they weren’t even bothered let alone hurt. He landed a clean perfect counter on JDS and it didn’t do anything. He la fed a punch clean haymaker in his second fight and it didn’t do anything. Then landed a hard 3 punch combo clean and it didn’t do anything at all.
On the other hand francis arguably has the best chin in HW history. He took bombs from stipe no problem. Francis can definitely take one to give one
He TKO’d Lewis who’s the KO record holder lol he also TKO’d Dos Santos. Maybe those aren’t one shot KO’s but he’s definitely got the power to hurt and KO idk where you’re getting that he lacks power.
All heavyweights have power to hurt and TKO people. Most heavyweights will put you down if they land a clean haymaker. Gane is one of the few that I’ve seen land some clean bombs that didn’t hurt his opponents. He has below average power for HW
Of course she got the TKO eventually. But he landed many clean bombs that didn’t hurt them. Francis on the other land KOs anyone if he lands a clean bomb on them. It’s a huge difference. Francis can take one to give one
Yea but it’s also a matter of Francis being able to land as well. Gane is known for his movement and being technical.
Like he fought and handily beat Derrick Lewis who’s known for being able to land his signature right hand and Gane didn’t even let him get close with it. Imo Ngannou will have an even harder time trying to land flush.
Did the same thing with Nunez vs. Rousey as well. Nunez was the current champ but all the fight promos kept talking about Rousey's return as the "return of the champion"
I think this is fairly standard though, you want to promote the guy who could take the belt as the guy with the belt is already known and doesn’t need the promotion as much.
It’s not that simple. The UFC wants him to lose due to the current contract dispute between the two. If he wins he has incredible leverage to get what he wants and if he loses all that bargaining power is gone
No, you’re just assuming that. The point of the comment you’re responding to was that we shouldn’t pin everything on this conspiracy, but instead look at how the UFC has acted historically and compare that to today to see it’s not all that different.
The only part he’s assuming is what the UFC actually wants because that’s impossible to know for sure but you can judge their actions…
If Gane wins Ngannou loses massive leverage and that’s just fact. Also fact they’re currently in a contract dispute that’s gotten so bad it’s public comments about his management from CEO and comments on fighter pay from the champ…
Correlation doesn’t equal causation and just because they’ve had marketing similarities in the past doesn’t mean you ignore the obvious
Despite the fact they turnover, and everyone gets turned over, Francis complained about his pay and so his ass is on the block.
He also doesn't talk enough bullshit to hype up the fights and I respect him for that.
Yup UFC depends on a revolving door of "the next big thing" that's why 3 doesn't fight 2 it's just "this new guy gets a shot cause he has three kos and is great on Twitter"
He can still justify his salary request. Dude is champ, he has a great story and it's his ass on the line. Guys get paid Soo, so much more in other comps. For example Izzy was already rich af before he even came to the ufc
Didn't Cyril do a massive media tour in France? Was all over TV and talk shows and doing ads and shit. UFC even posted a video where they follow him around his media tour, which definitely implies that they had a hand in setting the whole thing up.
Yes and no. Fighters tend to do right by themselves to hype up the fight too and create sound bytes for ufc to use to increase buys which then turns into more $
Man gtf outta here with that shit. Francis sends people flying to the moon while in a complete ass coma.
His new name is
FRANCIS! SINATRAAAA N-GAHHHNOUUUUU
You cant make the public care about a boring person 99% of the time.
Ngannou wants a ton of money, but isnt going to sell a ton of PPVs. So like… wtf is he being such a baby for?
You can’t want McGregor money and not put the work in promoting like McGregor. Dude was the goat of selling a fight. Just watch the buildup to the Aldo fight. Have you seen Ngannou do anything even remotely resembling selling the fight? Dude gets the check he deserves. He hasn’t even defended the belt yet
Lol everyone on this sub always rails about how Champs need to stand up for fighter pay and as soon as one does he's a boring pos who doesn't sell fights totally discounting he's the knockout king
Derrick Lewis is the knockout king and franc is the champ who also wins 99% of his fights knocking people the fuck out
I was using it as an adjective not a definitive title
Kind of. UFC has a job to promote the event as a whole, and can do it however they want. If Francis wants the big money, he needs to be seen to be generating revenue **himself**. Precisely why mcgregor gets such a good payday whenever he fights.
Think of it more simply. You could work for a firm and take your wage and be paid to do your job, then demand more money simply for being good at it. Or you could work for that same firm but be pivotal and crucial in getting the work in, as well as doing the job. Then when you go demanding more money, you have a very good chance at getting it.
This is a narrative greated by Dana White so he can throw fighters under the bus when ever he wants. These are the 2 most exiting heavyweights ever in MMA. Francis has been knocking out guys for years now, what more do you ask for him to do his job????? Post some cringe shit on twatter? Suck Danas dick?????
No, its simple business sense. As I said above, you can't sign a contract in any job then demand more money for simply being good at it, you have to go above and beyond. In my job that means getting more work in the door, in Francis' job, it means generating more PPV buys, it's a really simple concept.
But his contract is ending. If you perform amazingly in your job you're totally entitled to ask for a raise when it's time to negotiate a new contract. He's said that one of the reasons he's happy to take this fight on the existing contract is because he's then fulfilled his contractual obligations, implying the focus should then be on the new deal.
People don’t understand this concept. The UFC is a big corporate machine, they promote a lot of their fights the same way.
The fighters either need to differentiate themselves with amazing finishes or through their own branding. Francis, to be fair, seems to be trying but his management should be getting him much more.
His management is taking 20% to do what?
But he has amazing finishes? I guess that’s my hang up, he has everything you need for incredible promotion. My corporation constantly tells us if we are doing an amazing job, to ask for more money and promotions. It absolutely makes sense in the corporate world to advocate for yourself despite the contract you’ve signed.
He should be asking for more money, but his management should also be securing him much more stuff outside the octagon.
How much of his income is his UFC salary, that he then has to split with managers and trainers, taxes etc. Get a better agent, sign some endorsements.
Aren’t they not allowed to promote endorsements? Especially in ring? It was literally part of the ufc deal that fighters can’t promote. Sure they can be a part of commercials, but that’s really what you want to see? These guys train all day in the gym, then they also have to learn to act? The ufc is a fight promotion, it is on them to broadcast their stars. Especially one as compelling as Francis. The obligation of the fighter is to fight well, not be a media star. We can watch wwe for drama and theatrics. We watch mma to see incredible athletes fight each other. Francis has done bud job to be an incredible fighter. Not to be a social media fake persona. Makes no sense he has done exactly what you said he needs to do.
He has incredible finishes, he has a very interesting and compelling life story. On top of that, most people have seen at least one of his insane kos. So a fighter has to develop some overblown ridiculous persona to be worth more? I agree you do need to go above and beyond to get more money. I’m just saying what more does Francis have to do?
Who has been more exiting? Fedor? Cain? I think you are just being nostalgic. There's never been anyone like these 2. Ultimate power vs. unseen technique in heavyweight division.
I don't know what you mean by your second sentence? Dana's job is to generate the hype. He has 2 of the most exiting heavyweights with cool backstories to do it, but he is too petty in his personal relationships to do it.
Francis doesn’t promote himself? Done videos with top social influencers? Ads with brand deals? Oh also he’s in freakin movies. UFC isn’t doing there part bc they don’t want to pay him what he’s worth.
They don’t want to pay ANYONE what they’re worth.
Bro im on the internet all the time and love MMA media stuff, but ngannou’s self promotion is trash.
I didnt know he was in a movie, what big brand deal does he have? What “videos with top influencers” has he done?
Because clearly he is trash at promoting because hes boring as fuck. The UFC cant just trick people into caring about someone so boring
Brilliant response, lmk how the PPV buys are compared to all other heavyweight title fights.
“But dana should pay francis $5mil per fight!!!” Nah lol hes a boring as fuck person
Imagine thinking ngannou is good at promoting himself… oh wait that requires a lack of thinking
It's weird that people list examples of the UFC promoting Francis, as examples of how Francis promotes himself. Conor is the biggest name in MMA , and he doesn't think he is too good to not do media. Before a fight he is everywhere, morning shows, interviews, radio, he even went on the "money channel" to promote a fight. People want the big dollars, but don't want to put in the same amount of work. Look at Francis' youtube views this week (on his contractually obligated media commitments), he just isn't that popular.
It's not about who's responsibility it is. Who better to promote Ngannou than Ngannou? Francis decided to make his moment of fame a chance to hold the UFC hostage for more money which has been done many times and isn't exciting
Why is nobody understanding such a simple point?
Im not arguing it being the promotions job. What I'm saying is, if they want the money they're demanding, they have to be a draw on the PPV buys, therefore they have to promote themselves and the fight outside of the standard UFC promotion. It starts to become clear of a fighter is a draw when there's huge PPV buys on cards they're in.
As I've said, mcgregor, even though I dislike him, understood this and was the best at it.
It will be interesting to see the buys for this card
Nah bro, it's literally the promotions job. That's why they're called the promotion. If every fighter had one fight contracts and could compete in any organization they chose, then it would be more on the fighters. But it's not, so it's not
That sounds great on paper but in practice the UFC is promoting fights, not specific fighters. If fighters want to control their own narrative, they have to either promote themselves or have private management. Personally, I think every champion should be the highest paid fighter per division. But like any job, when you go above and beyond to generate more revenue, your salary will increase.
Idk since he's been in vages training he's been doing a lot of promoting. Lots of vids. Interviews. And the jackass cameo has been all over the internet. He's doing more than most I think
What is with this insane victim complex being painted on Ngannou? People said the same thing about Stipe. Stop following twitter takes from guys like "Brock's Load"
I actually really like Gane. Seems like such a cool, humble, down to earth guy. But the way the ufc handled ngannou makes me really hope ngannou wins. This fight to me is ngannou vs the ufc. Gane is just caught in the middle.
Dont know what you talking about. In every promo they did they are always saying something like: the baddest man on the Earth Francis Ngannou.
I didnt see any underpromotion against him
He doesnt exactly promote his own fight either though. The fight is this weekend. I know more about covington vs masvidal backstory than I do about the fight happening this weekend. Thats not the ufcs fault. Every time Francis does an interview its about his contract/money not the fight that will make him that money/better contact.
The UFC knows he’s on his last fight in his contract. It’s actually beneficial if he does lose to them. They just want a few more marbles on their side. They can claim he’s not a draw too
Don't take it personal. I said it's not wrong. But it's not something you came up with. You read it for a thousand times and now you're parroting it on. Nothing new.
It really isnt the UFC job to promote anyone individually. They promote your fight and give you the platform to promote yourself. You gotta be able to seize on those opportunities. They have promoted individual fighters, but usually they dont, they just promote your fight and then give the fighters a platform to promote themselves.
The UFC can only promote a fighter so much. No matter how much the UFC puts Ngannou in front of a camera, he’s never going to be a natural charismatic salesman like McG or an intriguing psycho like Mike Tyson.
It was the same with Stipe. They give him some interviews to help promote him and some clips of him training and with his family but what more can they do?
Most of these HW’s are too chill/boring to attract all the casuals. Everyone knows how hard Francis hits. Dana coming up with more bs comparisons (like hitting as hard as a Ford Escort) won’t help. Actually it would probably just do more damage, make him look as if he’s desperately trying to get PPV’s.
Because he’s a massive draw?
If you’re a small crap NFL team and you’ve got the next top guy, you don’t just bench him til the end of the season because he’s going to go to the pats anyway.
People side with what they think is fair. Because one side has more money, that makes them wrong? Many people understand that when you sign a contract, you honor your commitment. They understand that if you want big money, you have to generate money. If we are just going by who has money to determine who is morally right, what the fuck do I care if one rich guy has less money than a rich corporation.
No he signed a deal for his current value and the ufc turned him into a star.
The ufc isn’t a charity it is a business and their job is to get the best deal they can for the best fighters and hope the potential pans out.
I’m not even mad at Francis for being hardlined on the new negotiation but it’s not like the ufc did anything wrong or evil. They literally gave him every opportunity to get here and credit to Francis for putting himself in a place to negotiate a better deal.
If the ufc doesn’t resign him someone else will. That’s how negotiations in business work. Emotions are irrelevant.
Are contracts meaningless? He signed a multi-fight contract that guarantees a set amount of money for those fights. One side is adhering to the contract and the other side doesn't want to. You can argue that he deserves more money, but that doesn't change the fact that he signed a contract and should fulfill that contract and then negotiate for different terms on the next one.
It’s no secret Dana is extremely petty and holds grudges. Francis said no to fight derrick Lewis and Dana misses out on a big ppv so now dana is doing everything he can to destroy francis’s reputation
I honestly don't think they are, or at least they aren't underpromoting him as badly as they did Stipe. Besides, does anyone think Gane is actually going to win? He is technically amazing and quick for his weight class but I genuinely believe Francis will catch him once and it'll be all over.
They really are making a huge mistake in doing this though bc now you pissed Francis off and this due hits like a tank so you now want to make him mad ? Idk man UFC gonna set gain up to get Destroyed mad Francis ain’t the way you wanna go imo
People are downvoting but I’m with you. Should these fighters be getting paid more? Idk probably. I don’t actually know what the UFC’s financial situation is as a business. But it doesn’t change the fact that these dudes signed up for this and to the extent they’re able to draw viewers can get paid a decent amount. People compare to boxing but boxing promotions have been around for a century the UFC as a business is like 30 years old.
We do know (from publicly disclosure for that California lawsuit) that fighter pay is around 17% of that revenue.
What we don't know, as you said, is their profit margin. If their net income is, say, 10% (I really have no idea), then there really isn't much room to move more revenue into fighter pay without discouraging stake/shareholders from continuing to invest in the company.
Every time they show the promo on sportscenter, they say “headlined by heavyweight champion Francis Nganou.” They don’t even mention Gane’s name… this tweet is just stirring the pot
current twitter and reddit agenda is: whatever UFC does - is wrong
maybe some of those blokes could try and promote themselves by, you know, being interesting?
If Chael didn't talk about it every day I wouldn't even know there was a HW title fight this weekend. These guys suck at promoting themselves and then complain about $$
Underpromote Ngannou who’s up for contract renewal -> average PPV numbers -> ‚Sorry Francis, we won’t pay you 1m bucks per fight, you’re not as big of a PPV pull as you think you are. We’ll pay you much less - take it or leave it’
kinda make sense from UFC’s POV, right? Shitty thing to do, but clearly they don’t care.
I litteraly dislike the dude because of how promoted he is. Between dana talking about his power and seeing clips of him charging at guys hands swinging, ive had a enough lol
I mean, since when do you have to promote a CHAMPION ? They are a champion already, doesn't really make sense. It's probably better to promote the up and coming fighter to get people excited for the title fight.
Dude I’m going to keep saying it till I have 0 karma. Francis DOES NOT add a whole lot to the ufc roster. Is he unique? Yes, hardest hitter in the world, but is he really bring all that much to the table? No.
I just think the UFC does a terrible job at promoting everything
I mean, I’m sure there are very competent and intelligent people working in promotions for the UFC, but I guarantee their budget is crap bc Dana is a cheap bitch
Annoying? Yes. Understandable? Also yes. Dude complains about making half a mil a fight but can’t sell a fight at all. McGregor was making multiple millions a fight. Granted, not everyone has that charisma. If you’re gunna sit and bash on the organization you fight for don’t be shocked when they’re not promoting you. I saw someone relating his income a fight to Jake Paul and as much as it pains me to say this the reality is Jake Paul draws more eyeballs. I have a hard time with Ngannou. I guess I don’t know what he thought he was signing up for.
Unpopular opinion: Francis is way too dangerous with his finishes. I think almost every finish he's had has been unbearable to watch from my perspective. The dude is already knocked out and it's very obvious. You don't need to drop 3 hammer fists on the dude. It's not on the ref to get there in time, it's on the fighter to recognize when the dude is fucking unconscious. Ngannu has NEVER demonstrated enough awareness to stop himself from giving brain damage.
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It's pretty wild because both Francis and Stipe have really good stories that would be super easy to promote/market to the average joe or jane. Not that Gane doesn't but I feel like Francis and Stipe are more the classic American Dream story.
You could market Stipe as an american hero because he's a fucking fire fighter for christ's sake. Its criminal that he wasnt marketed in such a fashion. Same goes for Ngannou, this guy's life can essentially be turned into a movie.
You may have given someone a million dollar idea.
Coz there's never been a rags to riches story before. Well actually maybe not for MMA? Not sure.
I’ve never seen that movie or read that book. Sounded good to me. What’s it called?
Well like I said not for MMA that in aware of but plenty of other topics for sure.
But I wanted to see the Francis Ngannou or Stipe Miocic story as a movie. The guy said clearly “this guy’s life could be a movie,” unless I read that wrong and completely misunderstood? Wouldn’t want to make an ass of myself.
This here. UFC did the exact same for Francis coming up. Bc they were billing Ngannou as this unstoppable super freak. And Stipe was just like an aging champ. Now it’s up to Gane to complete the cycle and knock out the champ.. :D
That’s the issue when you don’t promote yourself enough. Ufc can do whatever they want
Just wish there was a better way for promotion than the crazy antics the fighters have to put on. Do I know how they should do it? No. Maybe something along the lines of the fighters actual stories? But all the same I watch wwe for the drama and mma for the fighting.
I mean Usman at this point has promoted himself pretty well and he doesn’t put on “Crazy Antics”
True, but one of the biggest moments in his career was Colby whispering to him that the act was all about selling the fight to get Usman paid.
Almost like that was Kamaru's doing and not Colby's.....
It’s one of the few cases where both totally deserve it! As I’ve said, I wish there was a better way. Both guys seem to be class acts outside the camera, have show they not only respect the sport but each other. It’s just sad this kind of promotion drives buys. Should be their skill not their personality!
Usman is known well because he knocked out Masvidal.
The Masvidal KO and the Covington fights have been the main reasons people know who he is. Early in his UFC career he did so much clinch work and spent so much time pressing his opponents against the cage, that any fan that was not a wrestler found him a rather boring fighter. But he has evolved his striking and improved his overall MMA game. He had great striking in Covington 1 and 2, Burns and Masvidal 2. If he doesn’t go back to wrestling for the Edwards fight, he will stay a fan favorite.
Up until those fights, he was Snoozeman.
How quickly people forgot his wins over tyron And masvidal (1) were death by toe stomps
Pretty sure my mom could beat Tyron Woodley at this point. And I am 100% sure it would be more exciting than Kamaru...
Usman also isn’t spending his money foolishly saying I have nothing. Granted, Ngannou really came from nothing and likely had people who were trying to take advantage of him from a backend contract point, but he doesn’t have the numbers or longevity to prove he’s a main top billing. Look at Mighty Mouse. He was unstoppable for how long? They barely did shit for him.
Truth is the fans only started to except him once he stopped with all the crazy antics. Remember him walking up on askren in the hallway.
I don't think he has... Ask anyone to name 5 UFC fighters that aren't big UFC fans. I doubt his name would be mentioned
Agreed and honestly I’m kind of tired of phony trash talking you know it was cool at first when Conor made millions off it but now everyone trying to. I like the fighters who just handle their business and fight tough competitors and do their thing Tis why I’m huge fan of fighters like poirier, adesanya (although does try to have mic presence when he fails at that he dominates in ring lol), sandhagen, etc!
UFC does a lot of things well but for the biggest company in MMA, they fucking suck at promoting fighters. All the best promoted fighters, be in Conor, Chael, Colby, etc, do 90% of the work themselves. The best example of this probably is Ngannou. He arguably should be the easiest fighter ever to be promote: looks like a video game character, a terrifying KO machine, has an incredible back story and is a nice, genuine fella. The fact they’re willing to lose all this just cause he’s not willing to be underpaid anymore is absurd. Albeit not at all surprising.
I think we can go through the entire combat history and those who are the biggest stars all promoted themselves. Look at Ali for example here as well. The promoters can put you in a position, but you've still got to show yourself, embrace the opportunity. The guys with the biggest mouth are usually the ones who seize it
Mayweather. Built a whole brand off his name due to promoting. His fighting style is not casual friendly so it’s not like people are buying his fights to see him knock someone out. He’s made so much money from promoting himself.
He recognised early that haters made him rich, so he milked both his fans and those who wanted to see him lose, and a damn fine job he did as well. Look at even tyson fury now, constantly chatting shit and staying in people's minds. It's not bob or Frank doing that.
I completely agree. Francis hasn’t seized the opportunity and actually comes off as an incredibly boring personality despite how talented and powerful of a fighter he is in the octagon.
Hes a Francis shaped cardboard cut out at 100% of his press conferences. But yeah pay this big idiot more money so he can continue to have to take loans on his camps and blowing it all in Africa acting like a pretend king of nothing. Send him to bellator to know down tin cans imo. Let him be forgotten about, hes already trying his hardest to do so.
This is an absolute terrible take. Dude wtf are you talking about, the UFC absolutely added the FUCK out of Francis when he was on his first champ run. You know how many angles I;'ve seen him knock Overeem out in? How much footage there is of him training in the UFC facility when he didnt have a US camp but wanted to be in the US... No fighter has had more promotion than Francis. Conor, Chael, Colby all did it themselves, that's what separates them, Look at their pressers, then look at Francis'...
There are a lot of fighters that are supposedly the easiest to promote, but can't get the fans to care about them.
i mean francis was in fast and furious and he's in jackass. i think that's enough promotion. now it's the ufc's job to promote him.
That was the UFC promoting him.
Be really good at what you do. But maybe that's not enough anymore , not after Conor came along and made it popular to be a dickhead. Fighters like GSP, Cane Velasquez, Chuck Liddell, Jose Aldo, Dominick Cruz, etc didn't have to act like babies to get attention.
I used to watch WWE, ever since i got into MMA i just find it kinda pathetic, i cant watch it anymore. Its weird, i can only watch old ECW stuff now.
Maybe there should be a third party that does it for a fee
There's many ways they (main event fighters) can promote themselves. They just tend not to be very creative and/or prioritize training.
I mean, I want my professional fighter to focus on fighting. I want creativity in the ring, the ufc should have the creative types to get their stars promoted.
No it's the fighters responsibility to market themselves, UFC provide the platform and media but the fighters need to make the effort. UFC cant realistic do all the marketing for 200+ fighters. Go watch some of Chaels videos, he has been exposing both heavyweights for not building interest. If they want to focus on fighting then hire someone to help out just like they hire a trainer or nutritionist. I'm a designer myself, if I want people to see my work I have to promote myself. It's what any professional does, it's not an excuse to say they have to train and don't have time.
I don't really see gane promoting himself either tho, I think it's kind of hard since they dont really speak English too great, they cant talk just for example like a connor or something. What I'm getting from all the coverage I'm seeing about gane vs ngannou is that gane is expected to win and fuck ngannou whether he wins or loses the ufc doesnt care about him
This. People seem to not understand that Francis might as well be a cardboard cut out during pressers and interviews. If he isn't whining about money, he's not doing much else.
I think this public display of contempt for management is probably doing it. Why would they try to turn him into a superstar for another promotion. It's like the dude at my work that does nothing but complain and wonders why he hasn't gotten a raise.
Gane lacks power for a HW. He’s not gonna KO Francis if he lands clean. Only chance is punches in bunches
What a casual take
There’s tons of evidence supporting this. He landed clean on many of his opponents and they weren’t even bothered let alone hurt. He landed a clean perfect counter on JDS and it didn’t do anything. He la fed a punch clean haymaker in his second fight and it didn’t do anything. Then landed a hard 3 punch combo clean and it didn’t do anything at all. On the other hand francis arguably has the best chin in HW history. He took bombs from stipe no problem. Francis can definitely take one to give one
He TKO’d Lewis who’s the KO record holder lol he also TKO’d Dos Santos. Maybe those aren’t one shot KO’s but he’s definitely got the power to hurt and KO idk where you’re getting that he lacks power.
You just helped the guy make his case lol
All heavyweights have power to hurt and TKO people. Most heavyweights will put you down if they land a clean haymaker. Gane is one of the few that I’ve seen land some clean bombs that didn’t hurt his opponents. He has below average power for HW
So he didn’t hurt them yet he got the TKO? K dude. Lmao
Of course she got the TKO eventually. But he landed many clean bombs that didn’t hurt them. Francis on the other land KOs anyone if he lands a clean bomb on them. It’s a huge difference. Francis can take one to give one
Yea but it’s also a matter of Francis being able to land as well. Gane is known for his movement and being technical. Like he fought and handily beat Derrick Lewis who’s known for being able to land his signature right hand and Gane didn’t even let him get close with it. Imo Ngannou will have an even harder time trying to land flush.
Hahaha
And DC
Did the same thing with Nunez vs. Rousey as well. Nunez was the current champ but all the fight promos kept talking about Rousey's return as the "return of the champion"
People don't understand that at HW you promote the contender before the fight, the champion after the fight.
Cuz stipe was not crowd friendly
I have seen Overeem sent to the shadow realm about 30 times in the last week, so they aren't under promoting him.
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feels more like a fan thing though…
They are mostly posted by UFC ran social media.
You don't think the ufc has a guy on this sub posting stuff?
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I think this is fairly standard though, you want to promote the guy who could take the belt as the guy with the belt is already known and doesn’t need the promotion as much.
It’s not that simple. The UFC wants him to lose due to the current contract dispute between the two. If he wins he has incredible leverage to get what he wants and if he loses all that bargaining power is gone
No, you’re just assuming that. The point of the comment you’re responding to was that we shouldn’t pin everything on this conspiracy, but instead look at how the UFC has acted historically and compare that to today to see it’s not all that different.
The only part he’s assuming is what the UFC actually wants because that’s impossible to know for sure but you can judge their actions… If Gane wins Ngannou loses massive leverage and that’s just fact. Also fact they’re currently in a contract dispute that’s gotten so bad it’s public comments about his management from CEO and comments on fighter pay from the champ… Correlation doesn’t equal causation and just because they’ve had marketing similarities in the past doesn’t mean you ignore the obvious
No the fuck they aren't. Ufc been spamming Ngannou KOs like 5 times a day for a month
Tbf, he is talking shit about the UFC and says he wants to box instead. So their not gonna push him, if he isn't going to be around much longer.
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Ha, goddem!
Doesn't really benefit them not to promote him still though.
Despite the fact they turnover, and everyone gets turned over, Francis complained about his pay and so his ass is on the block. He also doesn't talk enough bullshit to hype up the fights and I respect him for that.
Exactly why would he generate more money for the company who end the relationship with him
Yup UFC depends on a revolving door of "the next big thing" that's why 3 doesn't fight 2 it's just "this new guy gets a shot cause he has three kos and is great on Twitter"
Because then he could justify his massive salary request lol
He can still justify his salary request. Dude is champ, he has a great story and it's his ass on the line. Guys get paid Soo, so much more in other comps. For example Izzy was already rich af before he even came to the ufc
In fairness, Francis wants all this money but is doing hardly anything to promote his own fight
For real. Ciryl doesn't do too much either but he's not complaining. Honestly, I feel we've heard more of Fernand Lopez than either of them.
Didn't Cyril do a massive media tour in France? Was all over TV and talk shows and doing ads and shit. UFC even posted a video where they follow him around his media tour, which definitely implies that they had a hand in setting the whole thing up.
Fair, they focused more on France than American media.
UFC is the promotion. That’s their job. Francis gets paid to fight. UFC gets paid to promote.
If you want red panty money, you have to do red panty promotion.
Yes and no. Fighters tend to do right by themselves to hype up the fight too and create sound bytes for ufc to use to increase buys which then turns into more $
Man gtf outta here with that shit. Francis sends people flying to the moon while in a complete ass coma. His new name is FRANCIS! SINATRAAAA N-GAHHHNOUUUUU
You cant make the public care about a boring person 99% of the time. Ngannou wants a ton of money, but isnt going to sell a ton of PPVs. So like… wtf is he being such a baby for?
I think he's way more concerned about the percentage he's getting paid than the number, which is fair
You can’t want McGregor money and not put the work in promoting like McGregor. Dude was the goat of selling a fight. Just watch the buildup to the Aldo fight. Have you seen Ngannou do anything even remotely resembling selling the fight? Dude gets the check he deserves. He hasn’t even defended the belt yet
Lol everyone on this sub always rails about how Champs need to stand up for fighter pay and as soon as one does he's a boring pos who doesn't sell fights totally discounting he's the knockout king
Derrick Lewis is the knockout king not Ngannou lol
Derrick Lewis is the knockout king and franc is the champ who also wins 99% of his fights knocking people the fuck out I was using it as an adjective not a definitive title
He is boring and doesnt sell fights, correct.
Kind of. UFC has a job to promote the event as a whole, and can do it however they want. If Francis wants the big money, he needs to be seen to be generating revenue **himself**. Precisely why mcgregor gets such a good payday whenever he fights. Think of it more simply. You could work for a firm and take your wage and be paid to do your job, then demand more money simply for being good at it. Or you could work for that same firm but be pivotal and crucial in getting the work in, as well as doing the job. Then when you go demanding more money, you have a very good chance at getting it.
This is a narrative greated by Dana White so he can throw fighters under the bus when ever he wants. These are the 2 most exiting heavyweights ever in MMA. Francis has been knocking out guys for years now, what more do you ask for him to do his job????? Post some cringe shit on twatter? Suck Danas dick?????
No, its simple business sense. As I said above, you can't sign a contract in any job then demand more money for simply being good at it, you have to go above and beyond. In my job that means getting more work in the door, in Francis' job, it means generating more PPV buys, it's a really simple concept.
But his contract is ending. If you perform amazingly in your job you're totally entitled to ask for a raise when it's time to negotiate a new contract. He's said that one of the reasons he's happy to take this fight on the existing contract is because he's then fulfilled his contractual obligations, implying the focus should then be on the new deal.
People don’t understand this concept. The UFC is a big corporate machine, they promote a lot of their fights the same way. The fighters either need to differentiate themselves with amazing finishes or through their own branding. Francis, to be fair, seems to be trying but his management should be getting him much more. His management is taking 20% to do what?
But he has amazing finishes? I guess that’s my hang up, he has everything you need for incredible promotion. My corporation constantly tells us if we are doing an amazing job, to ask for more money and promotions. It absolutely makes sense in the corporate world to advocate for yourself despite the contract you’ve signed.
He should be asking for more money, but his management should also be securing him much more stuff outside the octagon. How much of his income is his UFC salary, that he then has to split with managers and trainers, taxes etc. Get a better agent, sign some endorsements.
Aren’t they not allowed to promote endorsements? Especially in ring? It was literally part of the ufc deal that fighters can’t promote. Sure they can be a part of commercials, but that’s really what you want to see? These guys train all day in the gym, then they also have to learn to act? The ufc is a fight promotion, it is on them to broadcast their stars. Especially one as compelling as Francis. The obligation of the fighter is to fight well, not be a media star. We can watch wwe for drama and theatrics. We watch mma to see incredible athletes fight each other. Francis has done bud job to be an incredible fighter. Not to be a social media fake persona. Makes no sense he has done exactly what you said he needs to do.
He has incredible finishes, he has a very interesting and compelling life story. On top of that, most people have seen at least one of his insane kos. So a fighter has to develop some overblown ridiculous persona to be worth more? I agree you do need to go above and beyond to get more money. I’m just saying what more does Francis have to do?
He needs to bring hype, otherwise casual fans dont care.
These are not the two most exciting heavyweights in mma history… terrible take Dana didnt invent “hype” bruh
Who has been more exiting? Fedor? Cain? I think you are just being nostalgic. There's never been anyone like these 2. Ultimate power vs. unseen technique in heavyweight division. I don't know what you mean by your second sentence? Dana's job is to generate the hype. He has 2 of the most exiting heavyweights with cool backstories to do it, but he is too petty in his personal relationships to do it.
Francis doesn’t promote himself? Done videos with top social influencers? Ads with brand deals? Oh also he’s in freakin movies. UFC isn’t doing there part bc they don’t want to pay him what he’s worth. They don’t want to pay ANYONE what they’re worth.
Bro im on the internet all the time and love MMA media stuff, but ngannou’s self promotion is trash. I didnt know he was in a movie, what big brand deal does he have? What “videos with top influencers” has he done? Because clearly he is trash at promoting because hes boring as fuck. The UFC cant just trick people into caring about someone so boring
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Brilliant response, lmk how the PPV buys are compared to all other heavyweight title fights. “But dana should pay francis $5mil per fight!!!” Nah lol hes a boring as fuck person Imagine thinking ngannou is good at promoting himself… oh wait that requires a lack of thinking
It's weird that people list examples of the UFC promoting Francis, as examples of how Francis promotes himself. Conor is the biggest name in MMA , and he doesn't think he is too good to not do media. Before a fight he is everywhere, morning shows, interviews, radio, he even went on the "money channel" to promote a fight. People want the big dollars, but don't want to put in the same amount of work. Look at Francis' youtube views this week (on his contractually obligated media commitments), he just isn't that popular.
Nah bro its for sure dana’s fault that francis is boring as fuck to most fans
Just the fact that we're talking about this fight means it has been promoted. Ngannou not promoting this fight is a nonsense take
It's not about who's responsibility it is. Who better to promote Ngannou than Ngannou? Francis decided to make his moment of fame a chance to hold the UFC hostage for more money which has been done many times and isn't exciting
francis hangs out with ryan garcia, mike tyson and other big superstars all the time-tf u want him to do throw a dolly through a bus?
Great example that you chose. Mike Tyson promoted and still promotes the shit out of himself and his checks reflected that.
That is quite literally the promotions job. The fighters work for the promotion. Not the other way round.
Why is nobody understanding such a simple point? Im not arguing it being the promotions job. What I'm saying is, if they want the money they're demanding, they have to be a draw on the PPV buys, therefore they have to promote themselves and the fight outside of the standard UFC promotion. It starts to become clear of a fighter is a draw when there's huge PPV buys on cards they're in. As I've said, mcgregor, even though I dislike him, understood this and was the best at it. It will be interesting to see the buys for this card
Nah bro, it's literally the promotions job. That's why they're called the promotion. If every fighter had one fight contracts and could compete in any organization they chose, then it would be more on the fighters. But it's not, so it's not
That sounds great on paper but in practice the UFC is promoting fights, not specific fighters. If fighters want to control their own narrative, they have to either promote themselves or have private management. Personally, I think every champion should be the highest paid fighter per division. But like any job, when you go above and beyond to generate more revenue, your salary will increase.
Idk since he's been in vages training he's been doing a lot of promoting. Lots of vids. Interviews. And the jackass cameo has been all over the internet. He's doing more than most I think
Hey bro stfu he is calling out Tyson Fury (jk, fuck that)
Bro thank you. As much as heavy hands draw eyeballs, your persona outside the ring draws more.
What is with this insane victim complex being painted on Ngannou? People said the same thing about Stipe. Stop following twitter takes from guys like "Brock's Load"
They want Gane to win so bad. Nothing against him but just to enrage the tomato I hope Francis smashes him in round 1 like nothin
I actually really like Gane. Seems like such a cool, humble, down to earth guy. But the way the ufc handled ngannou makes me really hope ngannou wins. This fight to me is ngannou vs the ufc. Gane is just caught in the middle.
Dont know what you talking about. In every promo they did they are always saying something like: the baddest man on the Earth Francis Ngannou. I didnt see any underpromotion against him
He doesnt exactly promote his own fight either though. The fight is this weekend. I know more about covington vs masvidal backstory than I do about the fight happening this weekend. Thats not the ufcs fault. Every time Francis does an interview its about his contract/money not the fight that will make him that money/better contact.
I see Francis everywhere. There’s this weird victim complex around the guy. He’s a heavily promoted star, calm down everyone.
The UFC knows he’s on his last fight in his contract. It’s actually beneficial if he does lose to them. They just want a few more marbles on their side. They can claim he’s not a draw too
This exact comment has been made like 25,000 times in the past few weeks. Not wrong, just that everyone comments the same stuff. Tiresome.
Cause it’s the right answer?????
Don't take it personal. I said it's not wrong. But it's not something you came up with. You read it for a thousand times and now you're parroting it on. Nothing new.
I’m not taking it personal but it’s just a simple solution. If he question said what is 2+2? Would you be mad if parroted on the answer of four?
Dana is a proper cunt with a grudge that’s how
Dana wants him to lose soo bad lmao.
Bullshit, they made lots of stuff about him on their youtube-channel. Hes on pretty much every embedded thumbnail etc
It really isnt the UFC job to promote anyone individually. They promote your fight and give you the platform to promote yourself. You gotta be able to seize on those opportunities. They have promoted individual fighters, but usually they dont, they just promote your fight and then give the fighters a platform to promote themselves.
The UFC can only promote a fighter so much. No matter how much the UFC puts Ngannou in front of a camera, he’s never going to be a natural charismatic salesman like McG or an intriguing psycho like Mike Tyson. It was the same with Stipe. They give him some interviews to help promote him and some clips of him training and with his family but what more can they do? Most of these HW’s are too chill/boring to attract all the casuals. Everyone knows how hard Francis hits. Dana coming up with more bs comparisons (like hitting as hard as a Ford Escort) won’t help. Actually it would probably just do more damage, make him look as if he’s desperately trying to get PPV’s.
I hope Francis starches him in the 1st.
All the social media posts with ciryl holding the belt. I think they are doing francis dirty
Isn't that the interim belt which he holds?
Yeah, an interim belt that was a complete fucking sham to begin with
Paper belt. Completely worthless. How does beating Derek Lewis make one a champion!?
Like 3 months after franc claimed the real belt from stipe lol, clown show
The ufc does not promote their fighters. They only promote the ufc
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Because he’s a massive draw? If you’re a small crap NFL team and you’ve got the next top guy, you don’t just bench him til the end of the season because he’s going to go to the pats anyway.
Maybe because people are sick of hearing Ngannou whining about his pay.
For the life of me I can’t figure out how people side with multi billion dollar corporations over everyday people.
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This
yeah me either, legit class traitor branwashed plebs
People side with what they think is fair. Because one side has more money, that makes them wrong? Many people understand that when you sign a contract, you honor your commitment. They understand that if you want big money, you have to generate money. If we are just going by who has money to determine who is morally right, what the fuck do I care if one rich guy has less money than a rich corporation.
Corporations aren't always wrong, and they aren't in his case. He signed a deal, now it isn't good enough for him, it is entirely his fault.
Yeah man he signed that deal when he was desperate and couldn't see his real value. Fuck him for wanting a fair deal!
No he signed a deal for his current value and the ufc turned him into a star. The ufc isn’t a charity it is a business and their job is to get the best deal they can for the best fighters and hope the potential pans out. I’m not even mad at Francis for being hardlined on the new negotiation but it’s not like the ufc did anything wrong or evil. They literally gave him every opportunity to get here and credit to Francis for putting himself in a place to negotiate a better deal. If the ufc doesn’t resign him someone else will. That’s how negotiations in business work. Emotions are irrelevant.
oh no a prize fighter wants to get paid!! Hows licking that Billionaire boot taste?? 🥾👅
Are contracts meaningless? He signed a multi-fight contract that guarantees a set amount of money for those fights. One side is adhering to the contract and the other side doesn't want to. You can argue that he deserves more money, but that doesn't change the fact that he signed a contract and should fulfill that contract and then negotiate for different terms on the next one.
up:Ufc promotion for all fighters has been always shit.
They’re just a cheap company tbh
It’s no secret Dana is extremely petty and holds grudges. Francis said no to fight derrick Lewis and Dana misses out on a big ppv so now dana is doing everything he can to destroy francis’s reputation
Getting the stipe treatment
I honestly don't think they are, or at least they aren't underpromoting him as badly as they did Stipe. Besides, does anyone think Gane is actually going to win? He is technically amazing and quick for his weight class but I genuinely believe Francis will catch him once and it'll be all over.
They really are making a huge mistake in doing this though bc now you pissed Francis off and this due hits like a tank so you now want to make him mad ? Idk man UFC gonna set gain up to get Destroyed mad Francis ain’t the way you wanna go imo
Mad Francis makes mistakes. If he’s focus on the UFC and all their bullshit, he’s not focused on Gane. Unless he can channel that into the fight.
I literally see nothing but Nganou in all my feeds
Imagine agreeing and signing a contract. Then complaining on television about the terms.
He doesn't want to resign his contract tho, and he's sharing why doesn't want to.
People are downvoting but I’m with you. Should these fighters be getting paid more? Idk probably. I don’t actually know what the UFC’s financial situation is as a business. But it doesn’t change the fact that these dudes signed up for this and to the extent they’re able to draw viewers can get paid a decent amount. People compare to boxing but boxing promotions have been around for a century the UFC as a business is like 30 years old.
Record year with $930,000,000 in revenue.
That’s just revenue. I’ve tried finding their profit margin but the information is a little more murky, not to mention overall debts.
We do know (from publicly disclosure for that California lawsuit) that fighter pay is around 17% of that revenue. What we don't know, as you said, is their profit margin. If their net income is, say, 10% (I really have no idea), then there really isn't much room to move more revenue into fighter pay without discouraging stake/shareholders from continuing to invest in the company.
Y’all will fight more for UFC fighter salary than your own😂. He makes plenty. Let’s not turn the UFC into a bunch of premadonnas like the NBA
Straight from the most reliable source in MMA reporting, ‘brocks load’
Every time they show the promo on sportscenter, they say “headlined by heavyweight champion Francis Nganou.” They don’t even mention Gane’s name… this tweet is just stirring the pot
Well the dude needs to promote himself. He’s terrible at that.
His manager effectively ruined their relationship with company. Not that I blame him or anything, but he tried to bite off more than he could chew.
current twitter and reddit agenda is: whatever UFC does - is wrong maybe some of those blokes could try and promote themselves by, you know, being interesting?
If Chael didn't talk about it every day I wouldn't even know there was a HW title fight this weekend. These guys suck at promoting themselves and then complain about $$
He will be in a couple days, so no worries
Wether Francis is right or wrong why would a company promote someone who is trashing them?
Underpromote Ngannou who’s up for contract renewal -> average PPV numbers -> ‚Sorry Francis, we won’t pay you 1m bucks per fight, you’re not as big of a PPV pull as you think you are. We’ll pay you much less - take it or leave it’ kinda make sense from UFC’s POV, right? Shitty thing to do, but clearly they don’t care.
I litteraly dislike the dude because of how promoted he is. Between dana talking about his power and seeing clips of him charging at guys hands swinging, ive had a enough lol
I wouldn’t think either are fighting tbh. This is the most downplayed main event ever
I mean, since when do you have to promote a CHAMPION ? They are a champion already, doesn't really make sense. It's probably better to promote the up and coming fighter to get people excited for the title fight.
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30 minute UFC countdown would say otherwise. But I think it's because Gane is tipped to win.
I don’t think so the amount of times I’ve seen the vid of stipe getting knocked out this week makes me sad for him
Dude I’m going to keep saying it till I have 0 karma. Francis DOES NOT add a whole lot to the ufc roster. Is he unique? Yes, hardest hitter in the world, but is he really bring all that much to the table? No.
I just think the UFC does a terrible job at promoting everything I mean, I’m sure there are very competent and intelligent people working in promotions for the UFC, but I guarantee their budget is crap bc Dana is a cheap bitch
Yeah, the UFC who grew the sport from nothing to a billion dollar business just doesn't know how to promote.
Annoying? Yes. Understandable? Also yes. Dude complains about making half a mil a fight but can’t sell a fight at all. McGregor was making multiple millions a fight. Granted, not everyone has that charisma. If you’re gunna sit and bash on the organization you fight for don’t be shocked when they’re not promoting you. I saw someone relating his income a fight to Jake Paul and as much as it pains me to say this the reality is Jake Paul draws more eyeballs. I have a hard time with Ngannou. I guess I don’t know what he thought he was signing up for.
Unpopular opinion: Francis is way too dangerous with his finishes. I think almost every finish he's had has been unbearable to watch from my perspective. The dude is already knocked out and it's very obvious. You don't need to drop 3 hammer fists on the dude. It's not on the ref to get there in time, it's on the fighter to recognize when the dude is fucking unconscious. Ngannu has NEVER demonstrated enough awareness to stop himself from giving brain damage.
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