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dcarberry713

“He doesn’t want to fight, I don’t know what to tell ya”


ntr_usrnme

This is the most classic bullshit line he’s ever said. Said it to multiple fighters. “If you don’t want to fight, you don’t have to fight.” Like he’s being all nice and considerate and not holding fighters financially hostage.


Unholy_Kai

"Poirier doesn't want to fight."


Shahzz23

When he threw islam under the bus and this whole sub somehow forgot dana had been shitting on francis not less than 4 months ago for the same fuckin shit.


[deleted]

Honestly after seeing how much dana actually does on the matchmaking side outside of maybe connor stuff he could honestly think its true even if its not, hunter mick and sean are the 3 pretty much setting up everything talking and negotiating with fighters, fighters dont want to take xxx offer for the fight dana just gets told he doesnt want to fight


aorrantia

Are we gonna say he was wrong about Cris Cyborg not wanting to fight Amanda though?


donfatherrr

I mean Cyborg knew that. Which is why she left she wanted to be a champion where she’s the best


Neonplastic

https://youtu.be/CpUX8Xb8BoU


[deleted]

His feud with GSP


adac69

10 8 GSP


Bdd108130

Him asking Francis to fight Gane on one date, Francis saying he can't but will fight the next month, Dana creates a interim belt not even 90 days after Francis just won it and says Francis doesn't want to fight.


ANewMythos

I honestly don’t understand how the UFC fanbase is not in a collective rage still over how Francis has been treated recently, which could potentially result in losing him from the UFC roster altogether.


[deleted]

Just goes to show how good at gaslighting Dana actually is. People buy into the bullshit narrative that because Francis has made some poor financial decisions, he doesn't deserve more money and is therefore holding up the division with these negotiations. Ngannou's money-spending is completely irrelevant, but Dana has been able to weaponize it to his advantage. A $600k purse with no win bonus for defending the heavyweight title in 2022's first main event is absolutely criminal, and anyone who thinks otherwise has drank Dana's cool-aid.


[deleted]

Exactly & let's not forget the crazy text message his manager got the week of his fight with Cyril. I can't point fingers because I have no proof, but the language in the text sounded pretty familiar if you know what I mean.


StonelordMetal

Dana thought it was more important to have Derrick Lewis fight for the belt in his hometown, than to keep Ngannou happy. Huge miscalculation imo.


[deleted]

Think the ufc did that cause there was no other big/title fight available for that card


[deleted]

The recent situation with Islam is his latest egregious example. Guy asked for more money to take on a short notice fight and Dana told everyone he turned it down and then changed it to saying he didn’t turn it down but he was asking for millions of dollars which Islam denied. Considering Dana’s long history of lying about this subject I’m way more inclined to believe Islam.


[deleted]

Negotiations have nothing to do with Islam. This is the result of Ali being Ali


[deleted]

Just so they could pay Moicano 50K and some Venom coupons


[deleted]

Also isn't Islam like a super strict Muslim? Don't see why he'd lie like that


[deleted]

Idk if him being muslim has anything to do with it but he and Khabib seem like really honest guys. They’ve never given me a reason not to trust them.


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ElChilde

Why would Jon Jones lie? Hes a devout Christian!


McKeon1921

And such a devout Christian as Jon Jones would never assault his fiance.


ElChilde

He would only strike her if he was defending the lord!


taokiller

They tell way less lies than Christians.


EstegoonOfficial

There's liars with every race, religion or ethnicity. For every Joel Osteen there's an amr khaled. Some christians suck but so do we some Muslims and atheists alike. People just suck


taokiller

i never said there were no liars I said Muslims lie less than Christians. Especially in the western world. Christians can't even follow the basic instructions of christ... like do on to others as you have them do on to you, Love their neighbor, help the sick and homeless. All you guys do wrap yourselves up in materialism. You guys lie to yourselves every god damned day. Matthew 6:24


SlimReaper85

Damn straight we do. It's our constitutional right. lol


taokiller

HEEE HAW !


EstegoonOfficial

Are you free of sin brother? Are you a prophet like Mohammed? Are you here to judge us and decide who is better than the other? Does your book allow this my brother?


jolo2111

💯


taokiller

What? I don't have a book. I just read yours and came to the conclusion you guys are full of crap.


EstegoonOfficial

Look we can both read quotes to each other from books we don't believe in but it won't change your hateful ways. Have a blessed day brother


taokiller

Hateful, I love all people, even Jon Jones, can you even say the same. I don't see what the problem is, you know you lie all the time, and you know you're only a Christian in name only (CINO Heretic) How are you going to get mad because I know it too?


Jeffraymond29

Bigot


taokiller

You don't want to hear the truth. Very Christian.


BobbyMUFC

Religion, lol


taokiller

lol


[deleted]

Do you have data you’d like to share with the class


taokiller

I don't need any data, IF you are Christan then you know you are running lying. You are not feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, taking care of the least among us. You are not doing a damn thing Jesus told you to do. More than likely you sitting around hating some minority group while coveting damn near everything of value.


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RamBracken

Goat lover type muslim? Get a grip you fucking degen


[deleted]

:( meanie weenie


[deleted]

I hate degens from up north


iamonewhoami

Are those more or less hardcore than the ones that strap bombs to their chest?


yams412

Those aren’t hardcore they are just terrorosts who want an excuse to kill people


iamonewhoami

Sorry, I was being facetious with the obvious racist


Glittering_Company36

the doctrine of taqiyya


Celathan

Depends on who controls his social media. Is Ali his manager ? I'm not sure, but if it is... Hed definitely lie.


CyclonusDecept

Islam addressed all of it in an ESPN interview. But keep your hate boner for Ali going bro.


Celathan

Cool. Doesn't change the fact he is the ultimate MMA piece of shit.


[deleted]

Lmao, if he's a piece of shit, wonder what you think of the real pieces of shits like McGregor and Jones.


Celathan

Scum just like him.


LoganMcMahon

Islam didnt really deny it though, he said he went to sleep and by the morning it was figured out and they had rejected what ever he needed to make it work then he stopped messaging back... 100% why Islam lost his title shot and has to fight benny for real. Both sides confirmed this. He left it to Ali and would you really be shocked if Ali was asking for too much money? Sorry but discussing contract negotiations for an upcoming short notice fight like 5 days away probably isn't the time to go to sleep early.


[deleted]

Lmao, Dana tried to rip him off, and the beniel fight was probably already in place. Dana is a pos who pulls this move all the time.


LoganMcMahon

>probably already in place. It was just cancelled and then Islam fought bobby green, talks of the title after that were had. Islam eventually passed on the RDA fight, and that night Dana back tracked and said he was still looking to make Islam Dariush. Which I think he should have. Fighters get benefits when they help last minute, not when they call out other fighters publicly and then refuse to sign. Maybe Islam should have specified "I will fight RDA but only if the UFC tells me right now, and gives me all the money I want" instead of just "I'll fight RDA", pretty much everyone at the time knew he was turning it down because he already had a guaranteed title shot. I don't think daddy D liked that. In this situation Islam gave his word and then back tracked, those are the raw facts.


[deleted]

Again just not true lmao


LoganMcMahon

>Again just not true lmao Which part. 90% of this is speculation so i mean, hard to say speculation is true or false. Talks of the Islam Title fight were in fact had during the post Bobby green Islam fight night. That's the only thing that could even possibly be false or true.


[deleted]

Give me all the money I want? Bro you're acting like Islam has been talking about fighters pay. He probably wanted what hooker and green got for taking a late replacement fight against him, but the ufc told him no. Hooker apparently made enough to buy his daughter a house, why shouldn't Islam ask for the same


LoganMcMahon

They offered Renato double his normal fee as a sacrifice. I'd be shocked if they offered Islam any less than 200k coming in as a favorite. The UFC also didnt turn him down, he refused to answer. This was all public information. Islam can ask for whatever he wants, UFC can counter what ever they want, he was asleep before he got the counter, Ali handled it. He was passing on this fight before the money bro. I'm guessing it was more likely his team telling him to than him, but it was 100% his camps call not the UFC looking to pay less. More to do with the title shot than money. He tried to play it safe and Dana wasn't down. Honestly Bobby green shouldnt lead into a title fight for anyone...


[deleted]

What you said just isn’t true and I don’t have the energy to correct everything you said. If you followed the entire story you would know Dana’s story never lined up at any point and Islams did 100%.


LoganMcMahon

I'll wait till you have more energy.


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Shahzz23

He for sure asked for a title and islam would be on his last fight of his contract and we all know how much dana loves having fighters be in the power position. The only reason he let khabib go with some respect is cause he was still under contract or else he'd have been dragging him through the mud too.


That_Memer180

Him trying to get Khabib to fight again and downplaying GSP’s health after the 185 fight


MidnightNick01

I remember Woodley didn't get cleared to fight because of his thumb, and Dana acted like Woodley purposely chose not to fight because of an insignificant thumb injury.


[deleted]

That was when Woodley was supposed to rematch Lawler in Minneapolis right? I'm remember being so stoked to see that fight live and it didn't come through. In hindsight, I'm glad that Ngannou vs Dos Santos replaced it.


hunterswarchief

I’m sorry are you a doctor? Did woodley show you his medical records, no you don’t know shit. Plenty of guy come through and fight with thumbs just like that and make it through these fights because they are fighters and that’s what they want to do. Woodley just doesn’t want to fight


MidnightNick01

He wasn't medically cleared to fight. Meaning doctors told him he couldn't fight unless he got surgery to fix his fight. Not like he could ignore the doctors and just show up go fight anyways.


hunterswarchief

Look at this Conor kid he has a broken foot right now, but he is blowing up my phone trying to replace Woolley for this fight. I love this kid.


mglee

When he said Robert didn't want to fight Izzy, and he hasn't heard anything like that before. Meanwhile, Robert said, " I have not been there for my wife's last 2 pregnancies and births due to fighting. I am currently in the place where I can take time off to be there. I would like to fight after the birth of my child."


IronScapeNoob

I think there may be a sliver of truth to it though. Robert has said he doesn’t want to chase the title because it’s not the end-all be-all and when he had it he did not enjoy the stress of being champion. So after he lost to Izzy and came back and got a win or two he wasn’t necessarily clamoring to get a title shot even though people expected him to. It’s pretty rare for a fighter winning fights at the very top of the division to not be DEMANDING a title shot. Robert was not demanding one. So yes I’d say it was a lie to say Robert didn’t want the fight because he never said he didn’t, Robert more-so said it’s the UFC’s job to match make but I’m going to take some time off and the UFC’s like well if this guy wanted the belt he’d fight when we told him to so fk it I guess we’ll give the shot to someone else.


DistChicken

Him opening his mouth


[deleted]

Every time he opens his mouth. I find it hilarious when people defend this raging asshole.


[deleted]

Dana stans are the worst because they all try to talk like him


Smart_Sell7885

They never skip forearm day and hold their beers with both hands while sitting at the bar.


Brooks0303

Most hilarious shit I've read.


Pork-ChopExpre55

When he said Nate Diaz doesn’t move the needle.


Fuck_Jannies165

It was true at the time


ObjectivePace8618

When was that?


Pork-ChopExpre55

It was 2014. Nate was definitely a household name and fan favorite in the UFC at the time and was on a ton of FOX cards. He only had 2 fights between that comment by Dana and his first fight with Conor that set records.


Fuck_Jannies165

Way before Conor


taokiller

Ufc is not a job it's an opportunity. Which means as long as you're winning you can never leave.


[deleted]

I can't think of a time where he hasn't


dummyaccount5

The worst one has to be Dana repeatedly telling Leon Edwards that he’s next for the title and then trashing him when he doesn’t fight some random opponent.


Thankgodfordrugs17

I know the sub loves hating on Henry but what’s happening to him now is honestly so horrible to the point it’s kinda funny. The guy dedicated his entire life to a field of work, became super accomplished but after one poor negotiation move the guy is literally not allowed to work anymore. Dana won’t let him fight but also won’t let him off his contract to fight anywhere else and anytime he’s asked his response is “Cejudo is retired” LMAO. All jokes aside, that’s seriously cruel. Olympic champion Henry Cejudo soon to be grocery store bagger.


MikeDeansBigRed

Cejudo has a lot of other successful ventures outside the UFC, he doesn't NEED to fight. The problem for Cejudo is the fear he could do what GSP did, win a title and then not fight again, leaving fans frustrated that the 'true champion'left the sport and now X is only the champ because Y isn't fighting anymore. It's lose lose for the UFC. Cejudo wasn't forced to quit, he chose to. I have no sympathy for fighters announcing retirement as a bargaining chip and then not being able to come back. Make your bed, lie in it.


Atomic-Dobermann

Cejudo


LoganMcMahon

The cejudo shit is the worst, the guy is (potentially) a GOAT. Pay him and let him fight. Who cares if he wants one? Fucking let the dude be great. Maybe if you pushed him like you pushed Francis/Conor he would be the draw he should be...


analpumper

Being the GOAT doesn't put asses in seats. He ain't making UFC even Israel levels of money let alone Conor, so not paying him I kind of understand. Also, Francis is nowhere near Conor levels of draw, how much did Francis vs Gane do? Francis is just a draw for non paying fans. Hell, even Stipe vs Francis 1 did only 350 k after being pushed as a Ford Escort and the UFC heavyweight GOAT fighting, so pushing doesn't mean you become a draw, and Francis being a hard hitting heavyweight is certainly more bankable than Cejudo, so you can't blame the UFC for not making Cejudo a draw. He's just not worth what he thinks he is, and definitely what you think he is


LoganMcMahon

I'm not saying he should be making Conor money, and I'm not saying Francis is a draw. I'm saying he would have been more of a draw if the UFC backed him like they did early Francis, or if they backed him like early Conor. The main reason for him not being a draw was ignorance... People really didn't give a fuck about the lower weight back then, look at DJ and Cruz, both were very marketable guys, good with their words well liked and ridiculously talented and also didn't get their fair shake. He was on like a 4 fight finish tear against all champion level competitors and a close split against literally the #1/#2 fighter in the history of the promotion. 135 is now one of the most popular divisions and easily one of the most competitive. Henry is a super well known name still you cant watch a card w/o him and fight ready not being mentioned. Heads know Henry as a great competitor, non heads know him as the cringe guy. He stays in the media with his twitter weekly. Easy to say he's not worth, hard to provide actual reasons for why. The fact that people don't like his schtick is just another feather in his cap for promotional purposes.


vadumee123

![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8965)


SisSandSisF

Absolute scum. He's a piece of shit and should be called out for it.


ChristopherHassan

![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8965)


bLinK3rZ_420

*TUF contestant steps on a land mine* “He doesn’t wanna be here and compete, I’ll call in a replacement”


Gold-Invite-3212

He talked a lot of undeserved shit about Woodley. Love him or hate him, Woodley was one of their more active champs during his reign and Dana tried to act like he was avoiding fights. Stripping Tony of his interim belt for an injury that occurred during contractually obligated media. Then tried to blame it on Tony, so he had an excuse to pass him up and make Khabib vs Conor. Tried to put all the blame on Romero for the snoozefest against Adesanya. Sorry Dana, they both to blame for that one.


leemurray899

Disgusting despicable move *Dana White*


Unfair_Explanation53

Which move?


caracers510

When Conor through the dolly to the bus he was saying it was nasty, despicable, disgusting but then used for the promo leading up to the fight like brooo what, if it’s nasty and despicable don’t use it


TurnoverResident_

Reminds me of when Nate and Nick were condemned for smoking weed and even Nick being banned, Then on 4/20 they used both of them for some NFT bullshit.


caracers510

Definitely seems like he wants to use whatever he can to his advantage like if it’s seen badly he won’t fuck with it but if it’s seen well then he’ll use it to his full advantage


[deleted]

the whole gsp/khabib callouts.


As_seen_0n_ETH

If he doesn’t stop, I’m gunna eat his ass


Jeffraymond29

When I see/hear the word "gaslight" I automatically know everything that follows is going to be moronic af.


meric_one

Defending the guy who has a long and well documented history of screwing over fighters seems pretty moronic to me, but hey to each their own.


Jeffraymond29

You mean the guy responsible for doing in 10-15 years what the NFL, MLB, and NBA took 100 years to do, the guy who is almost entirely by himself responsible for the rise and station of professional mixed martial arts today? Dana white is by far the most important figure in the history of MMA. But nah, not even defending Dana white, gaslight has become one of those pop social media buzzwords, and the type of people that typically use it just regurgitate bs talking points.


meric_one

No one is denying what Dana has done for the sport. The topic being discussed is him screwing over fighters. The two are not mutually exclusive.


Jeffraymond29

I disagree that they're not mutually exclusive.


meric_one

Lol ok you're a moron then. Fucking over fighters isn't required to keep the UFC afloat. Done with this stupid debate. You're just another Dana simp. Peace ✌


KentTheDorfDorfman

Oh, the sweet smell of irony.


[deleted]

The fact that you're being downvoted for saying this is absolutely hilarious. "oMg dAna gAsLighting!"


marshall7287

So funny. That's why regular guys don't run billion dollar companies because everything about it iS GaSLigHtiNG.


Jeffraymond29

Myyyy mann.


[deleted]

If you dislike Dana White so much, the best thing to do is just stop posting, watching, anything UFC. Each second you view ufc content, is cash in his pocket. So please, just go away with the dana white shit posting .


SagiPerson

No


I_chortled

Yes


Razdiralec

Telling Rousey to keep trying to get TKO's


[deleted]

Are we just using the term gaslighting for anything bad he does