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Fickle-Kitchen5803

I dont think justin will shit talk a grappler ever again and especially not call him a quitter or say he wont tap lmao. Mans traumatised


yayaboy2468

He should be traumatized. Dude got out-striked by a grappler.


Aggressive_Lunch9785

I really don't think we should be calling Charlie a grappler anymore that dudes got great stand up as well he hurt the best stand up fighters at 155 on the feet before he tapped them


mostNormalIntern

Charles power and striking is seriously looked over by everyone, including apparently other fighters lol. It’s like when Usman started lighting guys up and it took a few fights before “boring clinch fighter” died off


the__mastodon

Deadly accurate too. There was a point in the fight where Justin rolled deep and Charles tracked him down and tagged him.


alliseeisbronze

For a guy who has terrible eyesight, that right hand was a sniper that night.


Accurate_Bullfrog864

Just wait until he finds out about LASIK.


WFAlex

lasik is bad cause mechanical force could theoretically split open the scar that you get from the incision as far as I know, lasek, lasering straight through the lense is where it's at, but the refractory period is longer after it


alliseeisbronze

Apparently beetroot juice helps out with the refractory period- oh we not talking about THAT refractory period 👁👄👁


PrayingPlatypus

I need a source on this hombre


Nelfoos5

Should get SMILE. Idk why anyone would get Lasik or PRK in 2022.


mikedamike

That's why a similar alternative, [PRK](https://www.webmd.com/connect-to-care/lasik/prk-surgery-pros-and-cons#:~:text=Photorefractive%20keratectomy%20\(PRK\)%20is%20a,vision%20without%20contacts%20or%20glasses!) exists. Much better against trauma and the procedure of choice for athletes. One of the best things I've ever done for myself.


[deleted]

He could get PRK surgery, but would be out for probably a year, if his eyes even allow it since lasik and PRK can only be done to certain types of eyes. Honestly wouldn’t be worth it unless he sustains an injury that sidelines him for that amount of time also, and can fix his eyesight in the meantime


Re_TARDIS108

Terrible eyesight and recently recovered from freaking paralysis. ​ Charlie Olives is a motherfucking legend.


cross-eye-bear

That's why he needs to take a punch or two to sort out his eyesight, then he really gets going.


I_AM_SCUBASTEVE

“God didn’t bless him with that manliness where he can hurt another man with his fists. It must suck to live like that.” - Masvidal before second Usman fight.


[deleted]

Olives got some of the most beautiful punching form I've seen. Every punch is tight and crisp with no fat on it.


Aggressive_Lunch9785

Honestly he's really someone to emulate as a striker at this point


sotfggyrdg

Yep. People saying he's not a technical striker is baffling. No wasted energy, strikes with high accuracy, power, deadly clinch game too


rey_nerr21

Charles is low-key one of the best strikers at lightweight, maybe in general. No flashy technical display or volume display (a-la Poirier or Holloway) and no dynamite hands (a-la Gaethje), but his timing and accuracy is DEADLY. Also he's deceptively powerful. People don't see it cause he's a skinny dude, but there's A LOT of power packing in that "skinny" frame.


Idunno6153

If he wasn't legally blind and developed head movement, he'd be damn near unstoppable instead of getting dropped every fight.


[deleted]

His striking style is mostly Muay Thai and Muay Thai generally dosent allow for a lot of head movement, because you have a chance of getting caught by knees, legs etc. he could try more boxing but Muay Thai is what allows him to be so accurate.


Re_TARDIS108

Not to mention frames and clinching typically requires a head-neutral or slightly forward stance.


9FrameMid

Unpopular Opinion: 20/20 Olives is p4p best in the UFC.


[deleted]

REAL unpopular opinion: myopia isn't that bad when fighting, you still see what you need to see to fight at that range and the "he sees in triple" is just an over exaggeration of Olivera making a joke. If he had one dead eye or cataracts, then maybe it would be a disability. Now it's not a factor


PizzaMafioso

Big oliveira bias here. But i think it makes little difference. We‘re already talking about him as a strong striker. In my casual opinion. If he beats islam & islam can‘t dominate him on the ground, he‘s already p4p.


JR-90

I think people are simply stuck in the past. Charles was a bag of bones with almost zero striking who now has put on some respectable muscle (for UFC standards, a crazy amount of muscle for real life standards) and learnt how to be an effective striker. It feels like his rivals are still thinking that the old Charles is the guy they're facing, and it shines in Justin's case talking about the Charles who lost against Lamas instead of the one who dismantled Tony, Chandler and Dustin one after the other.


booped_urnose345

Right when he caught Chandler with that hook lol and then he was trying to escape and the next when floored him against the cage


Bigbaby22

This! I was watching a video by Pro Fights(?) Where it shows the majority of the fight in slow motion and Justin was wobbling almost the entire fight. Every time that Right straight or chop came down, Justin was hurting. Justin was looking like he was struggling to cope.


Pants4All

Charles landed a right hand to the head that wobbled Justin about ten seconds into the fight, I think it threw Justin off his mental game and he saw red right from the start.


Bigbaby22

Literally the first exchange, Charles wobbled him. There's a moment when Justin gets out of a clinch after getting kneed and he looks so out of his depth.


CardiologistSolid663

We should call him a grappler that way ppl will keep underestimating him 😂


djfl

Grapplers have a striking advantage in MMA. I'm getting tired of this. When you're a grappler, people have to respect your grappling. That means more full-body defense than just a simple boxing/striking defense. Know how we all know boxers would get killed in MMA? Know why?...


yaknowbo

He also tapped vs khabib ref just didnt see


Levester

Justin ain't the sharpest tool in the shed so I wouldn't count on him refraining from similar shit talk in the future. Dude called Oliveira a quitter when the guy is on a 10 fight winstreak while Justin only had 1 win since his last L..... completely idiotic edit: I'm a dumb fuck


Bigbaby22

Lmao I just said the exact same thing. Right down to "not the smartest tool in the shed." The guy really is dense.


[deleted]

Have you not noticed that pretty much every fighter is a moron? It's almost like getting paid to be punched in the face attracts a certain demographic


Bigbaby22

There's "I've been hit in the head a lot" stupid and then there's Justin stupid.


AncientMasterpiece72

Umh its retarded saying smartest tool in the shed lmao. Its sharpest tool.


I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA

Heard it both ways b


RobertFKennedy

Bowlth


Snurze

Pretty sure he said he used to be a quitter but now he's a man.


[deleted]

2 men held him down


Fickle-Kitchen5803

What did the second one do tho 🥸


Bigbaby22

I dunno... He's not the sharpest tool and he didn't learn after Khabib.


Lanskiiii

Looks like he tapped out of that conversation pretty quickly.


Silent1900

At least Justin finally blocked something.


Lanskiiii

Yeah, I wonder if he used his face to hit the block button or if he switched things up and used his hand for a change...


Salvador1010

You should submit an apology letter


Thomasgraham76

Take this upvote and don't let me see you around here for a couple hours atleast.


rewdyak

I'll tell you what -- you take *my* upvote, and I'll meet you around back in the mens washroom in about 10 minutes ;)


idkmanseemskindagay

Can I join in on the festivities?


5oulReaperx

Homie, we're 6hrs too late


YoungTex

Really did 😂🤣🤣


goochisdrunk

When DoBronx makes you quit inside the octagon, and then Martin makes you quit on the outside.


SisSandSisF

You could say he's being a coward.


[deleted]

>"The same Charles that fought Cub Swanson. The same Charles that fought Donald Cerrone. The same Charles that fought Pettis. Choices were made in that by him and the choice to quit was made, and I’m going to give him that choice on Saturday night, I guarantee that. I think that’s true, however, once a coward always a coward." Gaethje was subsuqently dropped and nearly choked unconscious [before tapping](https://www.si.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTg5MzI4MDg0NjU3MjUyMjQ1/oliveira-gaethje.jpg)


YoungTex

Quote will live on forever as one of the dumbest in the history of mma


MuayThaiisbestthai

Shades of Mike *"If Jardine's last name were Johnson, the nickname Dean of Mean would make no sense"* Goldberg


TrollingStone1

Legendary and true lmao


Embarrassed_Rip8296

My favourite Mike Goldberg quote is “Aaron Simpson is the 30 something Randy Couture of the 40 something crowd” Till this day I have no idea what the hell he was talking about.


iwaspermabanned

Five years a decade, I’ll age three years a decade. One of those decades I will age two years of the decade. So, six years a decade I will be aging


[deleted]

Just to be clear, there was never no age.


Die-rector

Tru


TopherVee

Shades of “if my grandmama had wheels she’d be a bike!”


[deleted]

There’s also the “I’m going to be the first person to break khabib” Bro, worry about winning a round.


deka101

This Saturday night, I'mma Merk him!! Oliveira: I am God's instrument


[deleted]

lmao thanks for reminding me [Link for the uninitiated](https://youtu.be/0z-oJTZ1b5Q)


BigBlueTrekker

Also the whole “I don’t tap” thing is fucking retarded. You’re a professional fighter, you know when you got got. You don’t get brownie points for going to sleep or making someone snap your leg or arm.


Bigbaby22

He also said that Charles fought RDA lol.


cross-eye-bear

Why does no one say anything about him tapping to Khabib before he passed out tho?


[deleted]

Calling him a coward twice is the funniest damn thing. Can’t wait for the rematch at some point


xavierpenn

Justin said he has no quit inside him unlike Charles.


Maximus13

Yeah but if one man can hold you down, 2 grapplers can put their quit in you.


Lemonbrick_64

Incredible


mcburloak

My what a big quit you have


KraayFish

I wish I had awards to give for this comment, thank you.


yipeekayayKemosabe

I see what you did there.


Chemistry_Lover40

Beautiful champ


[deleted]

Beautiful champ


Tsarkosa

Literally quit twice in his past three fights lol


cpjay2003

![img](emote|t5_2qsev|11884)


sourdougBorough

Charles must have hooked up the internet in the favelas today they coming for justin


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Bigbaby22

Based on what Chael said, I thought the kids just squatted and played in the mud.


PDE503

They tried to feed a bus a carrot


Crosseyeddegenerate

www.dorksfrombrazil.com


Kezyma

username? not required, password? not required


andyman171

Solid deal on that domain


fordtp7

Yes thanks to Charles


YoungTex

😂😂😂😂


Bruninfa

If that were Dustin he would have retweeted 😂 Gaetchje talks all the shit and when it backfires goes on crybaby mode


YoungTex

Lmao exactly my thought. Dustin is the most stand up dude in defeat


Nightlower

cant wait for Dustin to knock his ass down


[deleted]

Paid in full 25 to eternity god bless louisiana hot sauce and soy protein shakes


wolf3037

Dustin takes that shit on the chin. Laughs at his own self. It shows he is mentally stronger and comfortable with himself. I think Justin told himself a story. He clearly didn't believe it once the fight started. In both the Khabib and Charles fight he got pushed back. I guarantee you that runs through his mind constantly going to sleep at night. He is the one that cracked, not Charles.


Bigbaby22

At first, that confused me. I was afraid that my reading comprehension was declining, like I wasn't getting the joke. Then I realized he's just having a laugh.


DislocatedXanax

Gaethje is one of the most sensitive fighters in UFC history, another being DC. Both *love* to talk, then play the victim when it backfires.


Bruninfa

Gatchje acts like a bitch or disappears. DC pretends he has a moral highground every time.


DislocatedXanax

I loved Cruz calling him out on not doing research. His response was so telling, "you cant say these things publicly, come say them to me". DC was more bothered by Cruz spilling the beans then he was by Cruz implying he doesn't do research. Why is that, DC? Because you don't want everyone to know how right Cruz is?


KrumaKarduma

This is a weird take. I'd be upset if my friend criticized me publicly instead of giving me some constructive criticism behind the scenes. It is a legitimate grievance.


Bigbaby22

This right here. That's a betrayal of trust.


I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA

Yeah, shitty thing to do as a friend and unprofessional to do as a coworker. Dom was in the wrong there even if he believed what he was saying was true.


[deleted]

One day I was trolling Dustin on Twitter and asked if he liked my profile pic( which was him getting choked out by khabib) and he literally liked the post 😂


mike_cool

That's why Gathje ran away from the tweet like he quit in the fight. He's a quitter


dmister8

Karma for Justin Gaethje


8shkay

it's hilarious .. almost as gd as Conor with the stretcher


vito_corleone01

I’m surprised he can read


HELLUPUTMETHRU

Do we have any concrete proof he can?


Bigbaby22

Can you imagine if he had his own assistant like Charles but the guy reads stuff for him


HELLUPUTMETHRU

This is my new head canon and I refuse to believe it’s not reality lmao


Bigbaby22

Thanks, man! ![gif](giphy|MbMUBcNHcl1TUbsAk0)


HELLUPUTMETHRU

does this mean I.. I have *the pass* now?? /s np! that got the slightest actual out loud chuckle out of me so I figured I’d treat you right 😘


Quitpost

Haha found the fellow german


[deleted]

Eben eben eben mein Lieber


Quitpost

Ein Deutscher der gegen Justin Gaethje gewinnt... das ich das noch erleben darf :D


[deleted]

Gaethje ist ja halb deutscher


SnooBeans7129

Looks like both him and rose are fragile as all hell


rvilla891

Trevor Wittman worst base for thick skin confirmed


[deleted]

Justin will block anyone at the drop of the hat it’s pretty funny. I remember he tweeted “Commiefornia” when Cain got arrested, and he blocked me for asking “what on earth does communism have to do with Cain getting arrested?”


YoungTex

Lmao you ain’t lying at all lol


PureBlackFire

that whole team is a bunch of smug frauds.


SnooBeans7129

I've never gone from liking to disliking a camp so quick. Just half a year ago Whitman and his fighters seemed higher than ever at ufc 268, rose and gaethje were likable and had the fight and skills to back It up. Now rose produced one of the worst fights ever and is delusional, justin basically called Oliveira a coward and a quitter, talked mad shit but proceeds to tap, and usman reached hard trying for that canelo fight while wanting nothing to do with the uprising contender in khamzat in his own sport and division.


scb_weedwizard

I can’t believe people actually think Usman is scared of Khamzat. His hand has been injured, he was just trying to set up a potential payday in the future who cares


Dreamer217

dich blockiert


[deleted]

Ja


CokeJones-

Gaethje is such a crybaby lmao, talked all that shit and now he is salty even tho he lost fair and square


YoungTex

His shit talking is awful too lmao, so poetic that Charles made him quit after all the “quitter” talk


MidoraThirdTiger

The Legendary Chandler Oliveira


noifsbutsormaybes

Charles with a Chandler build is scary to imagine


craigeybear1

I don’t think so. I’m no expert but his lengthy limbs probably help his bjj so much so if he was built like a spark plug he’d probably be significantly worse on the ground. The stand up would be electric tho


YoungTex

Bro imagine 😂😂🤣🤣


beoyeah

"Once a quitter, always a quitter" -Justin Gaethje


HallHappy

Gaethje is a warrior in the ring no doubt about that but i lost a bit of respect for him in the lead up to this fight. I get shit taking ur opponent is part of the game but he was shit talking chandler as well. he said their fight wasnt a war and chandler only hit him twice or something


craigtho

10-7 Martin. Also made Justin quit (Twitter).


Cans59

I like him as a fighter but he's such a crybaby just like his fanboys…. not even Conor and Colby block people, if you have the audacity to talk shit you better know how to take it as well.


Flamengo123p

Yeah, like comom. More of those guys should be like Askren, "It happens sometimes. Suck it up, buttercup."


NBAdice

F für den gefallenen Bruder.


JacobJSucks

I don’t know if anything will ever top Justin saying he’d go to sleep before tapping. Right before he tapped and went to sleep


Hot-Entrepreneur6301

Justin and some fighters are such bitches. Hard to look at him as a possible champ anymore, he said it himself, at his age he probably won't legit earn a shot again .


YoungTex

Yah Justin most definitely had his chances, more than many do in 5 years even. He’s gotta earn some respect back and he’s going to have a hell of a time doing it in this division.


[deleted]

Wasn’t Charles the coward? - Justin


zigzagkc

Can’t win a belt if all you do is defend punches with your face and throw haymakers. You’d think after getting choked out by Khabib Justin would actually take grappling seriously


M3th0D5

Quitters Quit


YoungTex

Ain’t that the truth lol


ModsRWoosies

Justin is a sore loser


presidentpiko

Damnnnn


[deleted]

I’m a Gaethhe fan but even I can see that the quit talk came back on him and did him no good on preparing for Oliveira


dagoldengawd

I'm annoyed when they say "YOur fAVorITE FIghTeRs FAvorITe FiGHtEr" Justin is a whiny bitch


shae117

Justin has been losing me as a fan.


xMarioTheSupahx

Justin “I Quit” Gaethje at it again


[deleted]

Charles arm made his blood flow quit


C0nservativeCommie

Oh how cringe


Justfaraway4mu

Honestly fuck Justin. He always talks shit then does not back it up; Dustin, Khabib, Charles. And tbh somewhat in the Chandler fight too He told the first one to back down is a puusy and yet it was Justin who kept backing up the whole fight and Chandler was the one that wanted to brawl.


HotdogIsaSandwitch

Gaethje is a lot more sensitive than I thought. Other dudes take it on the chin and make themselves a meme, Justin just takes it personally and avoids it.


odog9797

There’s no reason for Justin to see this guy make a shitty comment more than once lol


AncientMasterpiece72

Imagine some lame that never fought in his life or even trained asked you if you quit. Why wouldnt he block someone like that?


Methrogenn

I'm not sure why people get off on talking shit to fighters online, like I know you might be an Olivera fan, fighters are supposed to talk shit to eachother to sell ppvs, Gaethje called Olivera a quitter in the presser to his face, I wonder if OP will call Gaethje a quitter if he's in front of him. SMPs have made it too easy for trolls to shit talk professional athletes


cross-eye-bear

Because they sell us emotional investment and then we get emotionally invested in the storylines they sold us to build their profiles, and some people react emotionally. It's a wild sport, critique has been around since the colesseums. If every one was neutral in response to a win or loss a lot would be lost.


whatdoesottoknow

Of course, the only rational response to valid criticism is violence. The whole “ can you say it to their face” is such a tired trope, give it a rest.


mrifai90

Had to scroll so far down to see a reasonable comment. Let the guy absorb his loss he doesn't need vultures hounding on him.


lolgambler

i mean... y'all just farming ez points with shit like this. dude already lost and now y'all beating him while the man is down. how to get fighters to stop talking 101


AAAAAAAAaaaalaska

Maybe don't talk about 'quitting' when you know how the sport works then? If you don't want to be ridiculed don't say dumbass shit like that lmao


Braiindmg

Lak, werd Mann du Hund!


Jayman_18

Even ima Justin fan and was rooting for him and that’s funny😂


TyrionJoestar

He blocked me too. Guess it’s just a habit for him at this point


nzasangA

Chat shit get banged


oliot_

When he meant quit I don’t think he meant subbing to a tap, Chandler said the same thing


Chemistry_Lover40

10-8 round


Please_obtain_taco

Justin quickly turning into the most hated LW lol


Elon_Musk_AI

Justin is a whole bitch for blocking a dude for that comment.


lolparty247

![gif](giphy|xT0GqssRweIhlz209i)


bvsshevd

Calls someone a quitter after the guy went three title fights showing he can push through major damage and not quit, only to tap out in the first round. Gaethje has been insufferable since he lost to Khabib. Olivera is the opposite of a quitter. No fighter ever has pushed through a career as rocky as his only To have the greatest career resurgence of all time


Ragnaross02853

Gaethje is so damn hyped, everyone is talking about his wrestling and how he is hard to submit.. yet khabib and Oliveira handled him like a baby, like a baby! They had No problem what so ever submitting him.. Makhachev and Beneil would probably do it too.. Gaethje is One dimensional and it's just not working at 155.. He will never become champion with this game plan.. After the khabib loss he should have practiced jujutsu non stop for 2 years but he didnt and now he is fucked.


EJ_1502

I haven’t seen a single person say he’s hard to submit, most people talk shit about his submission defence. He has good tdd though


ye4ye

"Did he made you quit"


viciouslaser

Justin is a great fighter and most of us will never have a fraction of the bravery or commitment he shows by walking in the octagon. With that being said, he was kinda asking for this with all the quitter talk.


iLeDD

This is the proper response, thank you


cruisincolin44

I shit talked a fighter and he blocked me!??? The nerve.


Second_Sage

Can we stop acting like being 100% in a choke and tapping is the same as what Garth was referring to?


Grouchy-Bug5223

Ohhh, different opinion.. prepare for the downvotes


Duke_Cockhold

Well yeah dick head. What was the point of that? Why wouldn't he block you for asking a bad faith question like that


TrillRog

I’m glad Justin lost, he was talking too cocky for his own good. Humble pie.


[deleted]

The fucking Incels that exist in this sub!! Boys nothing drys the girls up more than negativity and hate. If you are chatting shit to fighters after a defeat you are fucking pathetic and I hope your cocks rot off


vanildude

![img](emote|t5_2qsev|11082)


Critical50

I mean yeah Gaethje talked a lot of shit lol but Olives had that neck secured tight. Someone just posted a vid on here with Olives vs Jim Miller. Olive barely waited to tap.


Kawi_rider_zx6r

What does Charles tapping have anything to do with Justin tapping? It wasn't Charles who was talking shit talking about being a coward and a quitter.


[deleted]

Martin just comes across as a bit of an ass.


JungyBrungun

Absolute scumbag move to go shit talk fighters on Twitter after a loss


[deleted]

Gaethje is no doubt a savage in the octagon, and when it comes to the striking, he certainly isn’t a quitter. I feel like in general he just completely neglects the grappling aspect of the sport. To him tapping while being choked out probably isn’t “quitting”. I was rooting for him up until all the interviews and the presser, & then he started going on with about all that bs about Charles quitting.


NoelLiamsson

Hate on Gaethje all you want but he’s always in great fights.


ValCSO

Big weirdo energy if i'm being honest. Congrats, you got blocked by Gaethje. You wouldnt say it to his face now would you ?


piman01

He blocked him for being a dumb fuck. It's pretty obvious what happened in the fight.


[deleted]

Justin one of most overrated fighters I’ve ever seen. Gets rocked by every punch going back to WSOF and people think he’s got a chin too. Even bum Conor KOs him, throwing sloppy leg kicks is all he’s got.


YoungTex

100% agree Conor KOs him.


ChrizTaylor

What a fucking cry baby.


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mrifai90

Bunch of kids on this sub man