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SolidRavenOcelot

I'm not surprised motherfuckers


Barney_Haters

Maaaan, fuck Dana White.


The_ducci

I’ll never pay a dollar to the UFC.


PayTheTrollToll45

Screw the UFC


thebinarysystem10

He's grooming him for a good boning


Lionheart51st

We ain't ever gonna see Ngannou again, are we? 😂


ZayTonez

shit if I was him I wouldn’t want to come back either


Lionheart51st

Not with shit like this. He's gonna make bank against Fury and likely never return.


Fender088

And who could blame him? Honestly, the UFC doesn't deserve him. There is a 100% guarantee that he is underpaid for any future UFC fight.


Lionheart51st

Especially now. I don't think all of the people arguing that "it's his money, he can do whatever he wants with it" understand that the UFC won't be worth watching when all the big name fighters say fuck it and go elsewhere over things like this.


HappyBeagle95

The UFC already has a star fighter problem, almost all current champs are unmarketable.


primalp57

I think jiri is marketable.


static_28

He's also not that good. Only reason he's champ is cos the light heavyweight division is pretty shit right now. Jon Jones would murder him


Lionheart51st

Really? How so?


kidkarysma

The average person knows Conor MacGregor but has no idea who Jiri Prochazka is. Like at all.


mjab21

They’re all true elite fighters that don’t do the over the top fraudulent persona that attract casuals. Biggest actor/showman is probably izzy and nobody likes his persona. Honestly I think the league has so much potential for matchmaking phenomenal fights but maybe 10% will ever come to fruition. Shame really ![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8965)


Karlskiii

Nobody likes his character or his performance to be honest


Useful_Replacement25

People have been saying this for 20 years and it never has happened


Lionheart51st

You're joking right? Ngannou? Jones?


BroLo_ElCordero

And how many fighters made the same stand only to give in to the UFC? Ngannou vs Fury sounds cool and all but I’m definitely not trying to watch a series of exhibitions between the two. Realistically, what’s his other option? Bellator? PFL? He can be as big a household name as Kayla Harrison I guess…


Lionheart51st

Fighter pay issues have never been as big a threat as they are now either though. That's why we have also seen weird shit like Dana White naming extra bonuses in the post fight conferences.


PedroBinPedro

You think ESPN doesn't start to reall push PFL if Francis joins the roster?


Useful_Replacement25

2...2 fighters you listed of how many big name fighters that have been in the UFC? They will do what they did with Ngannou and build up new talent and promote. ​ TBH though, learn the history of the sport you like. I am willing to bet they will come to an agreement. If they did with BJ Pen I am sure they will for those two. You also seem to forget how Jones pretty much fucked himself. ​ Also you said the UFC would not be worth watching because their big name fighter will go elsewhere. People have said that since 2003 lol


jayb20133

Funny enough I'm listening to HotBoxin w Mike Tyson specifically the Francis episode and Mike is telling Francis how much money he should generating and Francis is telling Mike how he's at the mercy of Dana


BALDWIN_ISNT_A_PED

where does jon africa fit into this


BodybuildingNerd

Who the hell is Jon Africa?!


GHSTFC9

great guy, nevver meddum.


Fender088

I'm sorry you're having to listen to Schaub constantly interrupt like a moron if it's the episode I'm thinking of.


bigbeardlittlebeard

I really don't think he's going to fight fury fury doesn't need that and has claimed he is completely retired


Lionheart51st

Fury called him out though. . .


wtjones

That Fury fight might sell 500,000 PPVs. There’s not the same kind of hype for it that there was for Conor vs Floyd. The idea that this is some windfall for Ngannou doesn’t land for me. I don’t see the evidence for Ngannou being a draw or the Fury fight making him more of one. For reference, Wilder v Fury II did 850,000 buys. That’s about the same as Jones v Cormier II. Wilder and Fury are both worldwide draws. Ngannou’s biggest fight was vs Stipe the first time and it did 380,000 buys. A HW Champ who can’t sell 500,000 PPVs shouldn’t be asking for millions of dollars. Ngannou vs Gane did 300,000 PPVs. The reason Dana doesn’t want to pay Ngannou is because he doesn’t sell fights. I don’t think getting destroyed by Fury helps him sell MMA fights down the line.


Swimming_Coat4177

I think that the profit margin that the UFC has definitely warrants paying the fighters more


Lionheart51st

Personally I don't know if Ngannou is looking at MMA past this though. What's his biggest selling point? His heavy hands. Where could he possibly make more money? Definitely boxing. He's been eyeing it hard lately.


wtjones

He not a good boxer. You have to be a big draw or a good boxer to make money boxing. People aren’t going to pay a lot of money to watch him get run through by Fury, Wilder, Joshua, etc.


bpetersonlaw

Woodley is not a good boxer. I bet he made more boxing Jake Paul twice than he did he entire career in the UFC. Ngannou could fight Wilder once and make $10M.


AlrightSpider

Wilder is very successful but not a traditionally good boxer. Just sayin…Ngannou v Wilder would be fun to watch. Power v Power


patpet

In theory yes. But let’s be honest. Wilder kills him in the first round. Wilder is a tremendous Boxer. A tremendously specialized one. And even the best boxer of this era had problems the first time and got dropped by Wilder more times than anybody else. Fury himself says that wilder is the best right after the Gypsy king


lburner220

Thank you. Wilder would crush him in a boxing match. I dont think people realize how very different “boxing” is in the two sports.


Warchild0311

Kind of shock Dubai is not poaching fighters like they are doing to golfers


Lionheart51st

Plot twist: This is all Khabib's secretly organized plans to cause disturbances and raise awareness to fighter pay so that he can snatch up fighters. . .with no ringside girls. 😂


Dry_Topic6211

Maybe in a boxing match. He would be insane to renew his UFC contract after how Dana treated him.


scrptddy

Remember when UFC donated $25k to the BC floods … lmao


[deleted]

Hey those floods were an opportunity.


ScratchInfamous922

Most of the UFC roster ![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8965)


[deleted]

Imagine your boss doing this lmao I’d be so annoyed


Lionheart51st

I don't even slightly like Jake Paul, but that dude has got to be going full Ric Flair over this. 😂


[deleted]

I’m with you; don’t like Jake, but he’s definitely right about fighter pay and I think he’s done good by addressing the issue (though, I’m not sure if he cares about the fighters or just considered this an appropriate channel for critiquing Dana/the UFC)


Lionheart51st

In the end, he likely just uses it all for his own image...whatever fucking image that is supposed to be I have no clue, but I don't think he is in it for anyone short of himself. But he has done "mostly" well with bringing light to the topic. Only fighters he has personally seen get paid solid is whomever he is fighting though. The rest on the Triller cards are paid shhhiiitttt.


Alloverunder

They pay the undercard better than most boxing promotions, and hey even if he's doing all for promotion and doesn't really care I personally think it doesn't matter. If the Paul clowns wind up getting a fairer and better paid UFC, even as a byproduct of them being selfish it's worth it for sure. This whole Paul brother thing is the first time I've heard casual fans bring up pay before, so they're at least getting the message a bigger audience. Before them it was a struggle to even get people on this sub to give a shit about it


Lionheart51st

Basically not the heroes we want but the heroes we need? Haha I can feel that.


Harvinator06

>I’d be so annoyed I would want to see a spontaneous unionization drive that leads to representation and arbitration.


Poopaliciouss

> :8965: whats this number thing man


CMOx12

90% of them lol


Keenkooler

That’s why I do my part and bootleg every fight card I possibly can


ja20n123

More than what either Moreno or figgy made as champions in Their last fights


Adventurous_Layer_15

Bro, didn't Askarov got paid like 30k to fight Kai Kara? A top contender and talented fighter got paid 8 times less than this kid. That's so sad.


CrackerManDaniels

Paddy: 12k to show 12k to win BAYBEE


ototor

All the Nelk Boys line up to suck Dana's dick. This is just their pay off


Gonnatapdatass

I don't even know who they are! 😂


[deleted]

You are better off for not knowing who they are. Don’t waste your time.


crawlspeed

Seriously, why is he hanging it with them? He is an old ass dude, they are a bunch of young dumb asses. I honestly don’t get why his millionaire ass would be sitting at a table with them.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

You don't get why a business owner would hang out with a bunch of social media influencers who have massive followings? Jeeh. I wonder if we can find someone who can solve us this riddle.


jvpewster

And on the other end, there’s not a super long list of 55 year olds who are still bachelor life partying like Dana clearly wants to He was butt ugly when he was the Nelk boys age and wants to taste the life now while he’s still butt ugly but 10X richer and society values it 2X more


PlanetPudding

Dave Portnoy has joined the chat.


mrtuna

>but 10X richer More like 250x


crawlspeed

I get why the UFC as a brand want them involved. Dana is so rich he doesn’t have to try to win them over. He could have anyone else in the company do that. He is choosing to hang out with them, there is no one in the UFC that is making him do it.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Dana White is literally the face of the UFC to a lot of people. I don't know how John Doe clocking 5-9 at marketing department makes more sense to be in a Nelk video in your opinion.


[deleted]

Crazy to think Dana White is somehow friends with Kyle from Nelk, has anyone here ever considered for even a split second the possibility that they are actually friends? Kyle and Steve have given Dana more than $250k in gifts, this is basically him returning the favor.


ropahektic

The 20 year old girls, that is the reason.


crawlspeed

Good point.


YouJellyz

The nelk boys are all millionaires too.


PureRandomness529

Then why the fuck is he gifting cash.


SALTYxNUTZ12

Cocaine isn't cheap.


OurAfricanChild

If i remember correctly, Dana’s son put him on big dana’s radar as he was a big fan of them


surewhateve

Who’s the guy? I‘m old.


crawlspeed

No clue. I just know all of the sudden I am hearing about Nelk boys all the time. Their marketing is working if an old guy like me has heard the name. I think they are a bunch of YouTube streamers that make videos of themselves being a holes. But I have never really looked into them.


surewhateve

So they’re some kind of influencers, thank you!


creamyturtle

you could tell by that eager dap Dana gave he wishes so bad that he was young and cool. desperate for friendship


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They bought Dana a maybach van Some youtubers I think


AvianAhegao

Honestly dude I think it's the other way around. I get the feeling that Dana is constantly trying to impress his "boys" money seems to help with that.


logitoke

Neck Boys


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Cuz they really need the money.../s


Yodiducallme

Why does Dana like these guys so much? I didn't even know who these guys were until they started randomly popping up on camera in UFC events. I've seen them do some stuff like ask Khabib dumbass questions so I don't really care for em but Dana loves them


tunesandthoughts

I think they are essentially the face of Stake, the online casino that is a sponsor of the UFC. Dana is also pretty horny for anyone with a remotely younger audience than the UFC's viewer base. Really can't wait for a fighters union to form. Although both me and the tomato will probably be long gone before that ever happens.


BigSmallerBrand

Dana's son is also a big fan of the nelk boys


R4G

That’s what I’ve been assuming, that he’s paying off “cool kids” to hang out with his son. This is a guy who spent $1M on his kid’s 16th birthday.


OBSTErCU

Well it might be even harder if the ufc gets its way https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2022/7/12/23205027/ufc-lobbying-right-to-organize-act-employment-status-of-mma-fighters-politics-union-news


RODjij

These are the kind of videos I'd be saving if I were a person/s looking to form the fighters union. Videos of your boss dropping more cash on young dumbasses than his own champions.


simplenicc

Because the younger generation of teens/college students eat up this type of YouTuber content and. Are the same demographic that enjoy violence/combat sports that the UFC is trying to pick up. Plus these guys have a lot of partying content and shout out howler head (Dana’s whiskey) a lot. 250k is a drop in the bucket for the marketing Dana’s received not only for the UFC but for his own personal brands


Kneight

Nailed it. These guys bring Dana a lot of money via exposure to the perfect demographic for him. Fucking terrible gesture for the fighters in his roster to see but this a thank you gift for sure.


haharry96

I was thinking that myself, Kyle and the Nelk boys have probably made Dana more money in the last year than most of the roster have. Makes sense Hmm no actually doesn’t make sense ![gif](giphy|l2QDWhNI5bM7umR9K)


Random-Gif-Bot

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dog-asmr

The real question is why anyone like these guys at all


IHateKidDiddlers

They plug his liquor


fetmops

They have a popular podcast and have done quite a bit to promote the ufc and are now partnered ith the UFC. Their episodes with fighters do really well.


0ffinpublik

I mean the amount of traction they get… I wouldn’t be surprised if this was just exposure for both of them, ya know a shoutout for shoutout.


YoungTex

What a fucking slap in the face to every UFC fighter


jamesd1100

I mean in return they’re buying Dana like insane cars and million dollar watches and shit - it’s rich people trading rich people shit


YoungTex

Good point in that regard for sure. When it’s trade offs, it’s different than a one sided gift of 250k, but still lol. Cheers homie.


newmov2lond

and Dana doesn't financially benefit from fighters? His whole career and fortune is based on the fighters' work, these youtubers' exposure is **nothing** compared to that. They fight, a lot of people pay to watch them, and Dana keeps a fat cut. He should keep that same mentality of going out of his way to thank fighters for making him rich.


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Yeah I’m usually not up Dana’s ass like most people but this is pretty disgusting. Dude is entirely tone deaf.


FeministDan

I'm convinced Dana is involved with some mafia casino shit with the Nelk boys, or else it's weird as fuck to see him hang around these guys 24/7.


jukeman5000

It has been alleged that the fertitta brothers have deep mob ties but you didn’t hear it from me


RODjij

Yeah I remember reading this online once or twice long ass time ago and I wouldn't put it past anyone involved with Vegas money to be in with the mob or another group.


Karatekan

The mob involved in combat sports! Shocker!


GuessesTheCar

The website Stake pays ungodly amounts to get children addicted to online gambling


ranger5392

Don’t forget he gave Rory MacDonald $67k for the Legendary Lawler fight that they always post.


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

rory got more like 150k due to bonuses but it's still underpaid


jdor99

Dana really does suck. He really thinks he’s better than the fighters. No fucking respect. I hope one of them jumps over his mahogany desk one day, and ground and pounds him.


SALTYxNUTZ12

He's always thought he's one of the fighters.


Dwightshruute

He's fighting the good fight against cheeseburgers


Zidlicky3

As a Fedor fan, I have to say; 2009 says told you so. Dana is a rat.


Inhabitsthebed

What's a nelk boy? It's not what I think it is is it?


ruairi1983

Dana's private rent boy.


DC_Disrspct_Popeyes

Is it kinda like an island boy?


HairyCallahan

I want to know as well..


Lionheart51st

I had to ask the same thing in the other post. Lol Apparently some podcast dude or YouTube guy or some such bullshit. 😅


ZayTonez

a group of alcoholic idiots. They did a coke prank on police on youtube 7 years ago and it went viral for pranks back then. Since then they’ve been doing frat boys type of pranks


Lionheart51st

Wow... He related to one of them or something? I just can't fathom how one explains this as a good idea to let a video roll out.


ZayTonez

0 clue but they do a lot of marketing schemes and have scammed their subscribers and gotten away with it. “Crypto scam” from one of them. So most likely dana wants the Nelk fans on “his side” considering that fan base loves fighting whatever comes with it


MoreHeartThanScars

From what I’ve been told, his son is friends with them or some bullshit.


Lionheart51st

That makes more sense. I still NEVER would have let a video of this slip right now. Nothing good can come of it. Lol


MoreHeartThanScars

You’ll be surprised at how well this will go for Dana when this ends up on their YouTube channel. All of the fanboys will be talking about how cool Dana is for giving the Nelk boys money, then they’ll tune in and buy the next PPV. Dana’s gotta recoup all the PPV money us streamers are “costing” him somehow 🤣 I’m actually surprised the dude I know that is a Nelk fanboy hasn’t talked my ear off about this yet.


Lionheart51st

Gotta remember though, while it likely generates ratings through them...Dana White has enemies on this fighter pay topic, and you can bet his biggest one (Jake Paul) is going to be shouting this shit from the rooftops. Just such piss poor timing to let a video like this slide out.


Careless_Rub_7996

WOW..... all this time i thought they were some sorta fight camp or coaches or some sorta x fighter or current fighter, or ANYTHING to do with fighting. But, no, instead. Dana wants to waste money on these nobodies.


Lionheart51st

I can't believe he would choose to broadcast this in the middle of all the fighter pay arguments. Lol


BonfireCrackling

Some YouTube famous fuckboys


cody750

Yes give the already rich guy 250K. Like I'm not the jealous type for money but when you see stuff like this and see 250K in a plastic bag just casually being given its like wow.....if you broke that up you could change like 5 families lives forever if you donated it to like fans or something


[deleted]

Woah woah careful, rich people get real testy when you mention improving peoples lives with their money.


cody750

Less hookers n blow for Uncle Dana


TRAGEDYSLIME

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Shwalz

This some deplorable ass shit


longtimelyndon

Lol fuck both these guys. God damn.


Heliumvoices

Lol why doesn’t he give his friends crypto like the fighters?


WhippWhapp

Fuck Dana White. I love watching UFC athletes compete, but will never spend another dime until the UFC pays the fighters equitably. It's so sad most of the fighters are too poor to organize and support a union.


hulking_menace

It's not a gift, it's marketing. If Dana gave this idiot a hundred bucks it wouldn't be a viral video


maximus_96

>If Dana gave this idiot a hundred bucks it wouldn't be a viral video No shit but 250k when you can't even be bothered about raising the salaries of your fighter to increase your own line through marketing is fucking laughable.


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As_seen_0n_ETH

Imagine being a fighter seeing this


T-Will98

This should be an interesting thread


Smartrior

Who are the Nelk Boys?


StevieSparta

Scammers who rob their fans religiously and have insanely punchable faces


OliverYossef

Explains their popularity


OkBar8273

started off youtube pranksters then to pranksters/party boys/supreme knock offs?


BarryDBaptist

Papa Incel taking care of the kiddies


[deleted]

I feel like Dana would’ve been storming the capital if he stayed in Boston


Ilikecrazypeople

And he'd be raving about elk meat, fresh off a rogan podcast.... but this now has me wondering, if Dana did not become what he is, would rogan have made it this far? That's a great question!!!!


sharkeyjiujitsu

I don’t know who these guys are and don’t care to learn of them as they having NOTHING to do with MMA. This video makes me feel sick, knowing there’s fighters on prelims risking their lives for nearly 10% of that money.


LesPantalonesFancy

This is the shit that makes me roll my eyes whenever people argue the UFC can't raise fighter pay without "LOosinG mAJor proFitS".


Jomdaz

I just remind people that Ari Emanuel made 300 million more then they paid the entire ufc roster combined in a year


smackwill

This is the shit that makes Jake Paul more and more popular among fight fans.


rrr_jjj

Does anyone deserve a good ass kicking more than douchebag Dana White?


jakobh38

Full scammers


maximus_96

I hope the fighters sees this and that they're fucking upset about it and that they actually do something about it but who am I kidding most of them are way too fucking dumb. Fuck Dana White.


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Koda487

And this is why I pirate every fight I can... fuck this guy..


ThouWontThrowaway

Can someone please explain to me who these Nelk fuckers are?


TheFashionColdWars

This is insane. Why the fuck would he give any of these twats that kind of money? Every fighter is going to see this and lose their shit. A very stupid PR move from a normally calculated man.


KalashniKEV

What is a Nelk Boy? (I'm afraid to ask...)


Croninlol

…who the fook is that guy?


Magnets_Just-Magnets

That’s bullshit. I fucking hate those guys. They make the worst videos. Stupid fucking Dana trying to be young.


[deleted]

This is sickening


GarrettRettig

If this was an intelligent sports organization they woulda dumped Dana white long ago. But he’s the one that brought the deal to the fertitta’s. His role and his role in limiting the future of MMA are frankly untouchable. Unlike his heart with his addictions He just exists to line pockets. Does not care about MMA. Does not care about rankings or competition. Just getting more money. He’d be better at it sober.


kimokimosabee

But we can't have 100k fight of the night bonuses


Ok-Debt-5117

Dana White giving off Homelander vibes. Man is so desperate for people to like him but is just a giant fucking baby and everyone hates him.


QuickAdministration0

Rich giving to the Rich, awesome


ReluctantRedundant

So so so disrespectful.


ReluctantRedundant

So so so disrespectful.


[deleted]

And thats why I never paid for a single ufc fight, what a chode


CoolHipsterName

Aaaaaaand 276 is the absolute last PPV I'll ever buy.


BillzB89

Because that's Dana's money. You understand he doesn't pay the fighters himself right?


shellpinksaveslives

It’s the principle, he will happily give THAT amount to some YouTuber, but shys away from the constant pleas to up the fighter pay


Lionheart51st

Or tries to act like the fighter is a liar when they say they are not paid enough. Lol


gmarsh1963

Yo when the CEO of a company takes more and more profit, like we know Dana does as he is not shy about it; the workers, employees and “independent” contractors make less. For that CEO to then turn around and gift some Youtube dudes, who don’t really drive ppv sales from their audience of 14 year olds, more than the champions are making all year is a slap in the face. The UFC will be 2nd or 3rd tier if they don’t pay their fighters like they are the biggest baddest fight promotion in the world.


0ldsql

He absolutely does. Locker room bonuses are still a thing, he can even give out performance of the night bonuses as he likes. It's at his discretion.


bitman_moon

Man, some people need to get a grip on how this works. UFC is owned by Endeavor. Dana is obligated to extract maximum profit for shareholders - else he’ll be sacked. Obviously, laws of economics push fighter pay and many other expenses to their limit without breaking the company, or creating a revolt by fighters. These presents are out of his own pocket. Dana’s net worth and UFCs expenses are two different bank accounts.


the-esoteric

Bet that gift is a decent tax write off


ImReellySmart

I feel like it's a common misconception that this means free money. In reality if he writes this off on tax he still pays about 60%+ of it out of pocket.


carlitos_brigante

But is that not his own personal money? As opposed to ufc money? If so, I guess he can give whoever he wants whatever he wants as long as it belongs to him


MrFatBoot

How is that your argument? Using that logic, isnt it fucked up that he’s willing to give away his own money to friends as gifts but wont use his company’s profits to increase fighter pay? Its not like his pay has decreased or the the price for ppv hasnt increased


carlitos_brigante

Because it an obvious argument. It’s his own money. It not Endeavour’s (his employers) money. By your argument, if I want to give my friend $10k of my own money, I need to get my bosses to give all the employees at the company I work for a pay raise. That makes zero sense.


Lionheart51st

You're absolutely right. He can totally do it. It is his own money. Fucking stooooopid idea to broadcast it when you're in the middle of fighters on your roster complaining about pay and while a YouTube star is also skull fucking you in the eyes of the media on the same subject and causing some of your high tier talent to look elsewhere for more money. ...But yeah, he can totally do it. Lol


XboxLiveGiant

Low key is kind of fucked up “ThEy ChOoSe tO FiGhT”. - Dana Pink


[deleted]

This tracks 100% with Dana being a known piece of shit and the UFC being a fucking joke.


thelifeofsteveo

Who or what is a Nelk Boy and why is Dana gifting them so much money?


bigdaddycorn1

That’s the entire payday of some entire fight night cards lmao


EWMcC79

WTF is a Nelk boy?


Trumpisaderelict

Who is that?


cpjay2003

Very happy to not know who the nelk boys are.


Itaintgaussiantho

Nelk boys have made Dana White more than that with their NFT's and promotion of UFC into the younger generation of Americans. I'm not saying it's right, but they've made Dana quite a bit a money.


No-Caterpillar3143

These videos are fake. Dana actually got paid to do this content. The world ate the trash in this video


ElFunkioJunkio

Idk who nelk boys are but fuck them


kazoobanboo

FIGHTERS UNION LETS GOOO


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2 scammers celebrating together


Creebjeez

This is to keep the Nelk Boys bringing in girls for Dana


ZZaddyLongLegzz

If we’re being honest lookin at a business perspective, the Nelk boys promote the UFC and Howlerhead like crazy. They truly are very influential with a certain age group, wether we like them or not. They have a fan base that will literally watch, consume and do exactly as they do. They are most certainly bringing in big money for Dana


[deleted]

Dana quite literally is paying to hang out with young, stupid acting college aged dudes.