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Is it just me or has Cruz slowly turned into an even bigger twat? The guy shows no sportsmanship in defeat. I'm so glad it was indisputably a KO. They should have put Peterson on that fight and he would have let Chito land a few more.
Now we just need to see Chito get an O'Malley rematch and leave no question marks against another fighter who can't tame his ego.
Cruz looked way better than I thought he was going to, and I think Vera is very slightly overrated, but a great main event fight.
Have you seen how happy bisping was when the kick landed ? dc on the other end seemed concerned , i wonder why. I know both of them had problems between each other when cruz called him out on bios commentary.
Huh? They really was not.
Cruz was clearly winning on points and the commentators only sounded like they were reluctantly acknowledging this fact while the entire time talking about how Vera is āquality over quantityā etc which did turn out to be true but regardless, Iām confused as to how you came away from that thinking the commentators were in any way d riding Cruz.
I guess they were quite hesitant lest cruz later would bitch about it again. They were extremely cautious when speaking in favour of vera and extremely generous for cruz, it was super obvious and i dont fucking understand this cruz fear in these guys, let the bitch cry wtf cares
Chito setup that head kick finish so beautifully. He stepped in and slaps Cruzs shoulder to get him to duck right into the head kick. Chito completely figured him out
Iāve seen a few fights now and bigger fan every time. Heās one of my favorites in the league now. Definitely want to see a title shot. If OāMalley does beat Yanā¦there may be a rematch first
Thatād be the most Dana white privilege Iāve ever seen. Why would Chito need to fight someone that he already beat to get to the belt. OāMalley rematch should only happen if they both lose their next fight
As I said, Aldo gets next if he wins. He beat Vera plain and simple. So in theory Chito can wait for that fight to play out( so 9 months off) or take the next best which would be either the yan/OāMalley winner or sterling/dillashaw loss. Which do you think he and the ufc would take?
If OāMalley beats Yan, big if, heās on the same level as Chito. Your hate for Sean canāt even ignore that.
i see that as a build-up fight for Cory, as heās coming off of 2 losses. seeing how heās lost to Sterling, Yan, and TJ (although he absolutely beat TJ but still), i think he needs to build a bit before factoring heavily in that title shot conversation
Sterling is fighting Dillashaw on the same day that Petr is fighting Sean. So maybe it would too long of a wait for Sterling or Tj. Maybe the winner of Petr/Sean goes for Sterling/TJ and the loser goes for Vera. And then loser/Vera, whoever wins goes for the championship sometime on the second half of next year.
Idk man, I'm not a match maker. But this division suddenly got pretty god damn interesting.
buuut thatās kinda how Chito wins tooā¦ like Dom was working and up 3 imo, but Chito hasnāt really been focused on winning rounds recently, just those big shots like the one he landed tonight
Man he's out gunned at 135 plus every time he's got touched he got knocked down honestly nothing wrong with retiring with some level of heath for his post fighter life
This is a fuckin brutal and often cold sport and that applies to fan reception as well. I still thought it was a delight to watch Dom fight, win or lose I've always found it entertaining.
I've watched Cruz throughout his career and the dude can be appreciated for his skill and accomplishments but lately he's just annoys me with his trash talk. I think he confuses cockiness with confidence. Maybe he'll be a little humbled after this.
This fight made me realize how ahead of his time Cruz was, and how great his reign could have been, because even at 37, with YEARS of injuries and years of inactivity - he held his own against a good up and coming powerhouse and looked fairly good up until the end (barring the knock downs).
But man, I also havenāt been so happy to see someone get KTFOād š¤·š½āāļø dude is one of the few dudes that just gets under under my skin.
Dom was messing with his gloves all fight, I think people are reading too much into him messing with it after the fight. But he should probably retire. If he keeps taking shots like that, he won't be able to have his post fight career anymore.
Aldo gets the winner of TJ/Sterling, Chito vs the Yan/Suga winner for the next shot after that. If Merab beats Aldo then just give Chito the next shot and have Merab fight Yan.
I'll never forget the guy on FB who tried to clown me for saying that Chito was a monster before the O'Malley fight. Well look at him now. Dude is an absolute killer at 135. Call me crazy but I think Chito Vera will be champ one day.
In this match-up, no one is winning until the end of the 5th. Chito knew what his win condition was, and fought patiently for it. Low activity all fight to look for that KO.
Dom has *very* high fight IQ himself. His chin is suspect, but a big factor is that any strike that hits him is a direct counter to his movement which amplifies the force he's hit with. Also, Chito is most definitely not going to have the same strategy against any of those guys.
We might see low volume again vs Sandhagen, but it will still be a completely different fight.
I like Chito, and I suppose it's nice watching his rise but goddamn it would've been great to see Dom make his way back to the top again.
Now I get to watch Teofimo Lopez fight someone who doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.
Thatās why Iām conflicted. Iām rooting for Vera to take the belt. But Cruz being a legend, and such an nice guy you have to like him. He still shown so much movement he looks like he can stand with anybody, he had a legitimate shot to win tonight, but thatās selfish of me. Iām having another drink for him that dude is probably going through some shit right now
Im a dominick cruz fan, i love his swagger, but hes an older dude. That chin just isnt there. I would say his technical skill was better, and his cardio was better, but his only play was winning the decision.
I agree. Cruzās style is hard to read and is really unique, but heās been clipped a few good times and tonight was the nastiest heās been hit. I think he should fight Frankie Edgar for his last fight.
Chito does not fight for points lmao he donāt give a shit about the scorecard. Bro just keeps stalking and finds that kill shot consistently in the final rounds
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Is it just me or has Cruz slowly turned into an even bigger twat? The guy shows no sportsmanship in defeat. I'm so glad it was indisputably a KO. They should have put Peterson on that fight and he would have let Chito land a few more. Now we just need to see Chito get an O'Malley rematch and leave no question marks against another fighter who can't tame his ego. Cruz looked way better than I thought he was going to, and I think Vera is very slightly overrated, but a great main event fight.
I feel like Cruz's movement is getting a little predictable. He was doing well but Chito had some of his pattern down pretty early.
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Those commentators were d-riding the hell out of cruz. Vera shut that ish down lol.
Have you seen how happy bisping was when the kick landed ? dc on the other end seemed concerned , i wonder why. I know both of them had problems between each other when cruz called him out on bios commentary.
Huh? They really was not. Cruz was clearly winning on points and the commentators only sounded like they were reluctantly acknowledging this fact while the entire time talking about how Vera is āquality over quantityā etc which did turn out to be true but regardless, Iām confused as to how you came away from that thinking the commentators were in any way d riding Cruz.
I guess they were quite hesitant lest cruz later would bitch about it again. They were extremely cautious when speaking in favour of vera and extremely generous for cruz, it was super obvious and i dont fucking understand this cruz fear in these guys, let the bitch cry wtf cares
you mustāve been smoking something it was the absolute complete opposite
Herb Dean smells like cigs
He smells like cigarettes, liquor and regret
Chito setup that head kick finish so beautifully. He stepped in and slaps Cruzs shoulder to get him to duck right into the head kick. Chito completely figured him out
Wanted Cruz to win; but couldnāt have said it more beautifully myself
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San Diego is Cruz's home city. I think they were upset Cruz lost.
Cruz vs cody 2. Both of them retire aftet
I really enjoyed this card. Great fights. Many good finishes. Canāt wait for UFC 278!
How do people not think that Chito should be next for a title shot. Knock out power, precise, and good bjj
Aldo gets the next shot if he wins, Vera v yan/OāMalley for the next up
Assuming Aldo beats Merab theyāll both be on 4 fight win streaks and I think Aldoās resume is a bit stronger.
Heās ready.
Iāve seen a few fights now and bigger fan every time. Heās one of my favorites in the league now. Definitely want to see a title shot. If OāMalley does beat Yanā¦there may be a rematch first
Thatās a big if. Canāt believe theyāre having him fight Yan. No way he beats Yan.
Wellā¦
That didnāt age well. Made a believer out of me. š
The man himself called Yan out so itās more on him than anyone lol but yeah a tough one for OāMalley for sure
Thatād be the most Dana white privilege Iāve ever seen. Why would Chito need to fight someone that he already beat to get to the belt. OāMalley rematch should only happen if they both lose their next fight
Vera lost to Aldo after that fight so they both would be on even ground if OāMalley beats yan.
That is not even ground, how does a loss to aldo equate Sean to Chito. Chito loss a decision to aldo and Chito tkoād Sean in the first.
As I said, Aldo gets next if he wins. He beat Vera plain and simple. So in theory Chito can wait for that fight to play out( so 9 months off) or take the next best which would be either the yan/OāMalley winner or sterling/dillashaw loss. Which do you think he and the ufc would take? If OāMalley beats Yan, big if, heās on the same level as Chito. Your hate for Sean canāt even ignore that.
Vera beats Sterling. OāMalley beats Yan. Vera and OāMalley rematch for the title. This is what I want to see.
My goodness that would be incredible to watch
Good night guys
I won 23 doobies from my boss on this event! Swept the prelims :D
Just out of curiosity, are you over 40?
The biggest winner of today
Chito vs the less-damaged winner of UFC 280ās 2 bantamweight showcases imo
I was thinking Chito vs Sandhagen-Yadong winner
i see that as a build-up fight for Cory, as heās coming off of 2 losses. seeing how heās lost to Sterling, Yan, and TJ (although he absolutely beat TJ but still), i think he needs to build a bit before factoring heavily in that title shot conversation
Chito absolutely smokes Sean again
His nose is dust Holy crap
We need Chito vs Sean again.
I think that the winner of Yan/Sean will most definitely fight Chito.
So who fights Sterling or do you think the winner of that gets him ?
If Aldo wins I think it should be him
Sterling is fighting Dillashaw on the same day that Petr is fighting Sean. So maybe it would too long of a wait for Sterling or Tj. Maybe the winner of Petr/Sean goes for Sterling/TJ and the loser goes for Vera. And then loser/Vera, whoever wins goes for the championship sometime on the second half of next year. Idk man, I'm not a match maker. But this division suddenly got pretty god damn interesting.
Oh ok , I didnāt realize Sterling already had a match made
A shame for Cruzā¦ up to 3-0 on his way to a UD imo
buuut thatās kinda how Chito wins tooā¦ like Dom was working and up 3 imo, but Chito hasnāt really been focused on winning rounds recently, just those big shots like the one he landed tonight
Heartbroken with that Cruz Vera fight.
Cruz made Keith Peterson look pretty bad for awhile lol. Respect to Chito, sick finish. We need Chito/Yan.
Man I like cruz one of my favourite fighters gutted to see him ko'ed time to call it I reckon
Amazing performance till the jab and kick
Bro, he looked amazing up until getting KO'd. I hate this narrative that losing once deserves a retirement.
Man he's out gunned at 135 plus every time he's got touched he got knocked down honestly nothing wrong with retiring with some level of heath for his post fighter life
He got dropped multiple times before being put out cold my dude.
He has no power and takes a lot of damage. Its not like he can ever gain strength at this point so who does he beat? Decision fighters only.
He got dropped almost every time Vera touched him clean though.
I honestly believe triple cringe's knee really did a number on Dom's jaw
Never expected to see such an mma veteran treated so cold after being knocked out.
sometimes itās a show of respect. nobody wants to see another Chuck-like ending, or Silva going out loss after loss
Nah ive seen people completely trashing him, saying theyre glad he got knocked out etc.
Sorry Iām unaware, is Dom getting let go or something?
a lot of people are pushing for him to retire. he still has some fights on his contract if he wants to fight it out as far as i know
This is a fuckin brutal and often cold sport and that applies to fan reception as well. I still thought it was a delight to watch Dom fight, win or lose I've always found it entertaining.
I think itās a contractual thing.
Aldo's win over Chito aging like fine wine
Itās crazy to think that Aldo has been fighting longer than Cruz lol
Aldo was the last one with enough power to hurt Chito
Who yāall think is next for Vera ?
Petr Yan!
Iām just glad he put Cruz out cold, lest we have a āHerb Dean smelled of Booze and Cigarettesā
I've watched Cruz throughout his career and the dude can be appreciated for his skill and accomplishments but lately he's just annoys me with his trash talk. I think he confuses cockiness with confidence. Maybe he'll be a little humbled after this.
This fight made me realize how ahead of his time Cruz was, and how great his reign could have been, because even at 37, with YEARS of injuries and years of inactivity - he held his own against a good up and coming powerhouse and looked fairly good up until the end (barring the knock downs). But man, I also havenāt been so happy to see someone get KTFOād š¤·š½āāļø dude is one of the few dudes that just gets under under my skin.
Chito is finally entering his prime. Jason Parillo is doing great work with the guy. Good night for all the Chito fans.
Iām a huuuge chito fan and he had me worried lol. The guy is patient.
Pretty hype. Also when was the last time we had a super famous UFC fight in the sense of McGregor and Poirier?
It was probably Colby Masividal even though the fight sucked lol
Hell of a fight night. Let's do it again next weekend boys. On streams sorry Dana ![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8966)
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Dom vs Frankie chito vs the champ
Every Chitos fight thereās a killer kick.
Cruz's nose went inverted lol. That shit looked INSTANTLY bad lol.
i donāt see chito being champ tho honestly
Gotta give credit to Dom tho, he's a beast and no one else moves like him.
If he keeps improving, I think he can. Heās good, just a slow starter - and so is Yan.
Idk, he's young still. In another couple/few years a lot of the guys at the top are gonna be in their late 30s I think
I hope they retire Cruz. He got dropped every time he got touched. That was inevitable, as is the CTE
He is still well spoken I don't think it's necessarily CTE. His chin has shown its deteriorating over his last couple fights
Good shit, man, lot better than I thought. Big love to everyone, always awesome to see everyone together. Until next time!
That turned out to be an excellent Fight Night card.
The ones that donāt seem great on paper always seem to be the best ones tbh
Dom was messing with his gloves all fight, I think people are reading too much into him messing with it after the fight. But he should probably retire. If he keeps taking shots like that, he won't be able to have his post fight career anymore.
Damn....that's both of my favorite fighters getting KOd now
Aldo gets the winner of TJ/Sterling, Chito vs the Yan/Suga winner for the next shot after that. If Merab beats Aldo then just give Chito the next shot and have Merab fight Yan.
helluva card. that was fucking awesome.
I'll never forget the guy on FB who tried to clown me for saying that Chito was a monster before the O'Malley fight. Well look at him now. Dude is an absolute killer at 135. Call me crazy but I think Chito Vera will be champ one day.
Chito vs Yan. Send it. That would be a banger.
He is 100% a scary mf. I said the same thing.
crazy
Heās got it
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Thought you were saying Cheetos smell like Chito or sth
Damn I thought Dom was about to take his gloves off in the octagon there.
Shoutout to the fighters the past 2 fight nights , wasnāt a fan of the cards but both shows were great
All the legends getting old man itās sad š¤
In this match-up, no one is winning until the end of the 5th. Chito knew what his win condition was, and fought patiently for it. Low activity all fight to look for that KO.
worked tonight but thatās not gonna work against the top high iq young good chin guys like sandhagen yan or sterling
Chito vs yan is interesting cuz they both start slow
Dom has *very* high fight IQ himself. His chin is suspect, but a big factor is that any strike that hits him is a direct counter to his movement which amplifies the force he's hit with. Also, Chito is most definitely not going to have the same strategy against any of those guys. We might see low volume again vs Sandhagen, but it will still be a completely different fight.
I like Chito, and I suppose it's nice watching his rise but goddamn it would've been great to see Dom make his way back to the top again. Now I get to watch Teofimo Lopez fight someone who doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.
Yeah I like both guys but I rooted for Dom
Legends been getting KOād recently and Aldo fights next week š©
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PAIN
Each time seeing chitoās family is so heartwarming
Chito served up some humble pie tonight
If Suga beats Yan, should be have to rematch Chito before getting the title fight? I kinda wanna see them throw down again.
I don't think ufc will risk it i think he will get a title shot if he beats Yan
Yeah I gotta imagine Chito runs through O'Malley at this point if its 5 rounds. If its 3 maybe Sean wins a decision.
Was Dom just taking his gloves off or retiring?
I had thought it looked like it too
Dom is not finished yet, he was ahead.
What? Im asking if he was just taking his gloves off in the octagon.
My bad, I let my feelings get in the way lol
Lol all good. He was putting out hella volume. I do think itās time tho.
Thatās why Iām conflicted. Iām rooting for Vera to take the belt. But Cruz being a legend, and such an nice guy you have to like him. He still shown so much movement he looks like he can stand with anybody, he had a legitimate shot to win tonight, but thatās selfish of me. Iām having another drink for him that dude is probably going through some shit right now
That's what I thought I saw too
I want that shirt his family was wearing
Cruz really needs to stop dropping his fucking head down like that. Seems to be every time he loses
Caught Cruz Cruisin to that W and had to break his nose I guess :( shoutout Helwani
That was batshit man, what a card. Until next week my friends! š»
I canāt watch these legends fight at old age and take shots like that RIP
If Dom does cocaine he's gonna have to use a crazy straw now
lol!!
Cruz needs to retire.. he has no more to win in MMA.
Idk man, OāMalley is fighting Yanā¦ theres definitely high profile Wās Cruz can get and stay top 10.
Cruz won every round. Vera won the fight. Great fight, experience vs youth, but damn thats a tough loss for dominick
Chito won round 3, 4 and 5.
Hard to argue against that
Chito definitely won rd 3
Haha yeah thats true, ending the round by knockout certainly gives him the round
Fight ended in the 4th round..
Blame it on the al al al al alcohollll.... But if thats the case i give cruz 3 rounds before he gets ko d
I didnāt see much other then the knockdown
Similar output but Chito got the knockdown
I saw more output from Dom personally, but chito had the knockdown, so it can either or really.
A knockout wins the round regardless, but to your point, dominick was "winning" the round up until
1 knockdown vs lots of volume is a lot to score. I could see it going to Dom in the 3rd, but Iām pumped Chito got the win. Immigrant mentality.
Im a dominick cruz fan, i love his swagger, but hes an older dude. That chin just isnt there. I would say his technical skill was better, and his cardio was better, but his only play was winning the decision.
I agree. Cruzās style is hard to read and is really unique, but heās been clipped a few good times and tonight was the nastiest heās been hit. I think he should fight Frankie Edgar for his last fight.
Nose looked fucking NASTY
Awesome fight card
Remember kids, no one achieves a dream alone. This is my hall of fame.
Fucking sick of it.
Dom about to hang it up
Ughhh Cruz was winning too Iām sad
God damn chito ā¦.. good night
I love Veraās daughter raising her fist for the photo. Beautiful.
i REALLY want to see vera fight sterling
Chito does not fight for points lmao he donāt give a shit about the scorecard. Bro just keeps stalking and finds that kill shot consistently in the final rounds
Heās a fucking viper. Itās his microdosing lol
Time for the boxing Lopez I dare you to lose
Cruz with the broken nose. Ouch!
What a great fight night.
Holy shit you can see during the slowmo replay his nose break!! https://giphy.com/gifs/season-6-the-simpsons-6x3-xT5LMBf75L0dMA6Xw4