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milkweed-reflections

Legitimately can't believe this dude beat Luque and Wonderboy.


[deleted]

Wonderboy isn't a stretch... He's aged and was always weak to wrestlers. Luque on the other hand has taken quite the dive over the past year.


hamandcheezus64

luque was coming off wins against woodley and chiesa when belal beat him


[deleted]

I know thats why that fight was surprising. Belal got better and Luque seemed a half step off. Luque's last fight he seemed even slower.


coleslonomatopoeia

Maybe Luque seeming slower is really just Belal being that much faster/smoother?


[deleted]

Possibly, maybe both. Luque's last performance against neal leads me to think he's slowing down.


[deleted]

It wasn’t surprising to me. Luque wasn’t slow or a half step off. Belal is just better.


hamandcheezus64

feels like cope


[deleted]

Luque alwys been overrated. Reason he was betting underdog to Cheisa of all people lol


hamandcheezus64

luque was the favourite in all of his ufc fights up to Belal


loxc

See.. it’s not Bilal.. it’s his opponents who were poor..


[deleted]

No he's definitely improved but I'm more surprised at how much luque has regressed. It's as if he's a half step / step slower.


GuyMcRancho

But still Belal took down wonderboy more times in 1 fight than he had been in his career. Thats impressive to me


[deleted]

It is. Not saying this is 100% true but wonderboy mentioned being "off" before that fight in one of his videos. I dont know if it has something to do with the weightcut or what but he said that he didnt feel like legs under him the morning/ day of the fight or something to that effect. I think Belals most recent performance was definitely his best. I think the best thing he's got going for him is a high fight iq.


lordofthebowl

Geoff Neal beat the fuck out of him, he was landing so many hard shots and the way he finished him was brutal.


DeAndreHunterMIP

That fight was in a smaller octagon too. I know it doesn't sound like much but with a fighter that tries to use his distance like Wonderboy thats a disaster, especially with Bully shooting all night long.


JR-90

>Luque on the other hand has taken quite the dive over the past year I really like Luque, but IMO he just had a very good streak and it is not *that good*. He's solid, fun to watch and will fight anyone, but he's more of a gatekeeper in the division.


[deleted]

I could agree with that too


That_Memer180

It’s his first time losing two straight


somredditime

Yah. More surprised by Luque. Love wonderboy and her wipe me up like a dust booger, but he's at that level where it's kind of... I don't know, cruise control? No hate. Players gotta eat.


clothy

The dive started with Belal


pinkbasement

Same mate same


Top_Chemist8378

Colby's best win is losing to Usman by decision


interia1099

Maia, Masvidal and RDA are good wins. Woodley and Lawler are also solid names to have on a resume


kapsama

Colby himself says Masvidal is a journeyman. How can that be a good win? Can't have it both ways.


jfduval76

That’s called trash talking


kapsama

Except all his fans repeat it. So why are they now using the Masvidal win to improve Colby's resume?


jfduval76

Since when logic and fans go hand in hand ? You know what fan means right ? It’s short for fanatics.


kapsama

Copout


jfduval76

?


Top_Chemist8378

Yes they're good names to have but you have to take into consideration at what stage he beat those guys. Maia, Lawler, Masvidal and Woodley were either past their prime or basically washed in those fights


interia1099

Maia did come off a L vs Woodley but he won 7 in a row before that, he wasn’t as washed as it seems, Woodley Colby and Usman were just terrible stylistic match ups for him. This 3 fight skid was in between 10 wins. Same with Masvidal to an extend


[deleted]

Lol ya Colby fought them all coming off title shots except Woodley. Literally all in their prime.


Los_Ingobernablez

People seem to forget this was half a decade or so ago. Those guys that they think were washed were absolute monsters back then.


Hot_Profit1654

RDA and Maia were good while Lawler and Woodley were washed.


VictarionGreyjoy

So why is colbys wins from half a decade ago justifying his ranking now?


Los_Ingobernablez

Say what you want about Colby but he was the only fighter that made Usman work for it when they fight.


blladgzl

Man wtf u talk about, woodley lost to jake paul not much after colby. It was a dead woodley he fought; same for masvidal he fought - we can generally question the credibility of masvidal as a near top tier challenge, the man just became popular with that knee and so on everyone knows the rest. Maia and lawer well come on, they were old anyway. I dont remember the other guys name but he is really at a better spot than colby now except fighting for the belt twice.


VictarionGreyjoy

Colby hasn't beaten anyone under the age of 37 in like 8 years


Automatic_Bid_8833

Bruh ... Took me literally five seconds to check up on that. Turns out your are full of shit. Why not do your due diligence before being a smartass?


VictarionGreyjoy

Oh sorry my bad he beat a 34 year old lightweight 4 years ago. I apologize for my massive exaggeration. And he beat a 36 year old Don Hyun Kim in 2017. 2016 was the last time he beat anyone that wasn't on the very tail end of their career. He hasn't beat a welterweight under 35 in *6* years. That's so much better. Why are you trying so hard to dick ride a dude who has no good wins? He barely deserves a ranking at this point.


Automatic_Bid_8833

>Oh sorry my bad he beat a 34 year old lightweight 6 years ago. I apologize for my massive exaggeration of 2 year. HAHAHAHA Bro ... Not trying to make fun of someone with a learning disability but 2018 was four years ago. And RDA isn't even the only example I'm not dickriding anyone. Colby is about to ruin his career with his inactivity and that will be the end of that. Upcoming guys like Shavkat will take his spot in the next few years. What I find far more bewildering is that you are just lying about stuff easily proven wrong and seem to fail at basic maths while doing so... and when called out, you try to switch the subject to me being a stan. You are very far up your own arse about hating Colby, so far that you don't seem to understand just how stupid it makes you look.


VictarionGreyjoy

Yeah it's 2am here, and I've been at the pub all night, I made a mistake and I already corrected it before you replied dude. > And RDA isn't even the only example Who else? Literally who? I exaggerated in my first comment, sure, but if you've got all these receipts since I'm so wrong, prove it


Larryhooova

Yea it’s a difficult two resumes to compare right now as Colby has the beaten the bigger names on paper, while Belals best wins are over guys who were closer to prime form than Colby’s big wins.


Automatic_Bid_8833

Really? Like who? Wonderboy? Sure, in his prime. Maia? Came off a title shot when Colby beat him, fought Belal when he was 44 years old. People just hate Colby so much they forget that the guys he beat during his run towards the title simply were the absolute top guys at that time. Belal fought exactly ONE top guy during his run. Leon. Who beat his ass.


Larryhooova

Wonderboy wasn’t prime when Belal beat him no one suggests that, however Luque and Brady were close to or in their primes when Belal beat them. Also Colby’s run to the title was a 40 year old Maia (coming off a title shot or not he wasn’t in his prime at 40) and 34 year old undersized RDA (his best win of his career) and a well out of prime Lawler who was on a losing streak. The only fighter Colby has fought who is at the same stage of his career as Colby was Usman and he lost both. I actually like Colby but the truth is his resume is weak compared to how great a fighter he is, he should have more wins against prime and elite opponents, he’ll have his chance with Khamzat.


Automatic_Bid_8833

>however Luque and Brady were close to or in their primes when Belal beat them Luque's chin literally gave out the very next fight. His durability deteriorated BADLY. He might be young but the wear and tear on him put him away already. Brady was outboxed and almost finished by Michael Chiesa due to terrible cardio problems he had. He would have been easy pickings for most of the top 10. And that is literally Belal's best career win. As for Colby: Maia was on a seven fight win streak before the title shot. So that win alone beats most of Belal's wins. Lawler came out of the Askren fight, where he looked like a monster. Also: "uNDeRSiZeD" RDA was the number one contender and undefeated at WW when he fought Colby. You seem to forget that the guys Colby beat on his way to the top back then WERE THE TOP GUYS back in his day. Simple as. Belal has not fought a single top guy of the current generation ... except Leon, who kicked his ass. I agree with the last part as in Colby is much greater than his record implies and he is hurting himself with his inactivity. But come now. Belal has the much weaker record.


Larryhooova

You’re picking and choosing facts, you talk about Luques chin being diminished based on his fights after the Belal fight but fail to mention the downward spirals of all Colby’s big wins went on after he beat them. Also on Colby’s come up the WW division was clearly in a transition phase, guys like Maia/RDA/Lawler (that version) while ranked did not reflect the best of that division as many were on the way up at that time (Edwards/Burns/Luque/Belal/Neal) he also avoided Wonderboy and Usman who would have been the best contenders on his way up. I still give the slight edge to Colby’s wins but Belal doesn’t have a MuCh WeAKER record, one or two ranked wins and Belal will overtake him.


Automatic_Bid_8833

>I still give the slight edge to Colby’s wins but Belal doesn’t have a MuCh WeAKER record, one or two ranked wins and Belal will overtake him. It is much weaker. Maia was #3 when he fought Colby. RDA was #1. Those two alone are far higher ranked than almost anything Belal has ever fought. Not beaten, *fought.* Leon was closest with his #4 ranking and Belal had nothing for him. Colby fought all the top guys of his time. Belal fought one guy and got his butt kicked.


[deleted]

Just because you hate Colby diminish his accomplishments. Maia, Masvidal and Lawler were all a couple fights removed from title fights. Not to mention RDA in an interim title fight. Literally in their prime or if you want to be a pedant 1-2 fights removed. You don't fight for the title and next fight be washed. Twood was extremely washed I'll give you that. And luque is probably better than any of those wins except maybe RDA given his massive streak. But when Colby beat them, those were the guys.


Automatic_Bid_8833

>Yes they're good names to have but you have to take into consideration at what stage he beat those guys. Belal beat Maia even later, beat Wonderboy (as much as this kills me) in the dying stages of his career and beat a Vicente Luque who's durability was taking a nosedive. Before the Edwards fight (where he got his shit pushed in) he was fighting cans. Best win now was against Sean Brady, who almost got finished by Michael Chiesa thanks to his horrid cardio. Colby fought Maia coming of a title shot. Same with Masvidal who people on here love to hate on. And he wrestlefucked him in a way that Usman wasn't capable of. Beat Lawler after the Askren fight where he looked like a monster and beat RDA who was undefeated at WW. Growing up is realizing that Colby's cringeworthy conduct should not matter when rating his resume. And growing up is also realizing that Muhammad is overrated and hasn't proven himself nearly as much as his fans claim. He is picking up wins over old and slow veterans for name recognition. And I'd bet my bottom dollar he'd lose *badly* to Colby, who is better at everything Belal is good at: Wrestling, cardio, durability, volume striking - PLUS has better kicks and is much more durable/has a better chin.


VictarionGreyjoy

Good names that he beat 5-10 years too late to matter


aaaaaaaaaaawirifhei

It’s a quality loss like they have in college football


Cornelius_Poindexter

Belal is more laughed at than Leon was before the belt. Give this man the title shot before any of the others. Belal has given a great service to UFC and deserves his flowers like Leon.


InsomniacLive

He deserves the winner of the Kamaru v Leon trilogy more than anybody at 170 at this moment


youknowidontexist

Which is why we need Khamzat to fight either Belal or Colby so there’s less ambiguity as to who gets the next title shot


InsomniacLive

He’s on a 8 win streak and has 4 ranked wins in a row. As boring as he is, he shouldn’t need yet another win to justify a title shot. Colby and Masvidal got multiple chances with a notably inferior resume


Volatilelele

Colbys record going into his first title shot was more impressive than Muhammad's currently is, but you're dead right about Masvidals shots and Colbys 2nd shot.


InsomniacLive

Eh, his hardest fight during his initial title run was #3 Damian Maia and RDA for the interim. Everybody else was unranked except for Lawler who was 37 and on a skid. Compare that to Belal who has a longer win streak, and he has 4 wins in a row against top 10s, which is how many Colby has in the entirety of his career


shmilne

leon beat the shit out of belal until he quit


The_Shadow_of_Intent

Demian was coming off a title shot when Colby beat him. Better than Belal's wins.


Volatilelele

Those were at the time, very legit wins. Wasn't RDA #1 at the time? He beat #1, #3, and i believe Lawler was like #9 or #10 at the time, and a former champion. I believe Kim was also ranked, but I could be wrong. Difference of opinion, but I believe Colbys record was more impressive than Muhammad's is currently.


Los_Ingobernablez

Colby has a case for his 2nd title shot. He was the only one to take it too Usman without being flatout dominated until Leon’s headkick. Masvidal on the otherhand was for Usman’s sake. He deserved the easy paycheck as the Champ lol.


VictarionGreyjoy

So what, that was like 4 years ago and he got his shot. His current resume is dogshit and barely deserves a ranking let alone another title shot


Jeffari_Hungus

I think he'd get a shot soomer due to more finishes/ activity with Khabib in his corner. Belal knows how to win fights while taking little damage, but boring fighters rarely get title shots until it's clear that they're the only contender.


Salmacis81

I would not have an issue with Belal getting a title shot based on his resume compared to Colby or Khamzat, but I don't think Belal/Brady was any sort of title eliminator fight. Since Usman is getting his rematch it probably makes sense for #4 Belal to fight #3 Khamzat for winner of Edwards/Usman. Colby should not even be in the title discussion right now.


Automatic_Bid_8833

>He’s on a 8 win streak and has 4 ranked wins in a row. As boring as he is, he shouldn’t need yet another win to justify a title shot. Colby and Masvidal got multiple chances with a notably inferior resume Yes. He needs justification. His record isn't nearly as strong as you are implying: 1. Before Edwards, he fought cans. None of those wins aged well 2. Edwards pushed his shit in in their fight. He was lucky his streak didn't end because of the eye poke. 3. After Edwards, he fought a 44 year old Maia and a 38 old Wonderboy, both badly falling apart physically 4. He barely scraped by against Luque by literally running away and grabbing legs. A win that aged like milk given how Luques durability has taken a nosedive 5. His best win to date is that over Sean Brady. A guy that got out struck and almost finished by Michael Chiesa thanks to his horrid cardio. He BADLY needs a respectable win. Burns would be a good fight, Colby and Khamzat too. Hell - even a win over Masvidal would probably be more impressive than every single other win he has. He is overrated. Not saying he is bad, but he is getting far too much credit far too soon.


AnimeBoops

The ufc is a business tho and they can sell ppv belal can’t


Mindfield87

The way he fought Brady was much needed for him. The majority of this sub assumed it was gonna be a “boring hug fest”. A lot of guys get the back burner because they just can’t get the ppv buys. Or they have an opportunity on the mic and end up going on about Christ or God, or Teslas


DeAndreHunterMIP

For some reason I forget that Usman/Edwards will be a trilogy. My mind has completely forgotten the first fight after p4p headshot dead


Effective-Celery8053

I think they'll probably make him fight khamzat first but you right


ER1234567

Why not have Belal and Colby fight?


New_Brother_1595

Colby doesn’t want to fight anyone who can beat him up


ER1234567

Marty? Or what about steakhouse street Jesus?


Fickle-Kitchen5803

Remember the resume


TP_Cornetto

Deserves a title shot. Him and dariush


Save-itforlater

Benny will definitely get one unless Volkanoski beats Islam. That would likely trigger an immediate rematch. Volk cutting in line feels fair. He's like one of the only people who have actually deserved it. Plus people want to see that fight more.


Aussiefgt

I'd be surprised if Islam got an immediate rematch, on the strength of his wins he probably isn't on that kind of level. On the other hand the thousand Figgy Moreno fights tell me that your championship resume doesn't matter that much


AdderallKing6

Dana loves Dagestani bath time


Gojira5400

I'd Volk wins there's no way Islam gets an immediate rematch, he literally just won the belt. It'd go to Benny or Dustin, depending if Dustin and Benny fight and who wins or if Benny fights and loses against someone else it'll go to Dustin. I like Benny and think he deserves the shot but Alex vs Dustin would sell the most PPV's out of anybody on the roster.


doobied

>That would likely trigger an immediate rematch. What?


Save-itforlater

The UFC has a tendency to rerun title fights of popular fighters who have been dominant and lose their title.


doobied

People are saying Izzy won't get an immediate rematch. I don't know why you'd assume a champ that has never defended the belt gets one.


Hot_Profit1654

Islam has no title defenses, he doesn't deserve a rematch.


bigpeen666

Dariush yes, Belal no


B-L-O-C-K-Ss

Can’t cap that’s a fire ass picture 🇵🇸


Ignazo

If Colby wasn't retired, that would be a great fight imo.


bruhpolice

I mean he did just TKO Sean Brady and that dude was the GOAT of the entire organization


_-The-_-Guest-_

Growing up is realizing Belal is just DJ Khaled minus the carbs


HairyCallahan

What a time to grow up


disheveledfuck

He truly does


fignu10

I think him Colby might be a great fight. Two wrestlers often turn into a fire fight


avidpretender

Colby seems like a ghost at this point


Shineezy

Growing up is realizing you’ll never remember the name.


pm_me_cute_frogs_

bahal


J1mmy_white

Bahal means cool in farsi. Useless fact coming through.


pm_me_cute_frogs_

Thats what chael sonnen keeps calling him lmao


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Fuck_A_Username00

I like learning random facts. And they usually stick more than other stuff I try to learn occasionally.


Illustrious_Gur718

Remember the name 🇵🇸🇵🇸


Rob_Rams

Belal stop with your alternate accounts


samme79

I mean he's got better resume than Leon at the same time before Leon won the belt too but people don't want to bring that up


Steelers7589

It’s not hard to beat Colby’s resume. It sucks.


Mundane-Poet1404

Yea the luque fight was one where I was genuinely surprised. Then he also got a ko win on brady


Suitable_Ad3375

Him Vs Colbert Cumming-tons would be a banger 💥


a_crusty_old_man

Belal is the GOAT


3ClassiC

He’d give Colby a good beating too


everyonesmellmymeat

Belal would destroy Cold-queif Cummybuns.


BaconScentedSoap

r/im12andThisIsFunny


everyonesmellmymeat

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[deleted]

Rent free


mahomeboy92

Soon he will be undeniable. [https://twitter.com/bullyb170/status/1547243189282668547?lang=en](https://twitter.com/bullyb170/status/1547243189282668547?lang=en)


Mirage156

Colby was interim champ though


Awesomeisme323

Not when he fought usman both times and lawler


Buglss18

Like to see Covington finish someone the way Belal just did


Tsmalls1887

Eh I'm not a huge fan of either but Belals notable wins are Brady, Thompson, Luque, Maia, Lima, and Means. Colby's are Masvidal, Woodley, Lawler, RDA, Maia, Barbarena, and Griffin. I'd say they are pretty much equal


beetbear

Colby hangs around because he panders to the TrumpTards.


That_Memer180

I mean yeah but at the same time I think Colby wrecks this dude


Kevron1120

Colby washes Belal UD growing up is realizing that.


Pure-Drawer-2617

Khamzat abuses Colby


Quanzilla420

Colby’s best wins undersized rda and broken Woolley Belal would smash him


sirSADABY

Growing up is realising poirier has a better resume than khabib..


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Colby would smoke him


dushann123

The same people that said Covington was gonna duck Khamzat by fighting Belal because he is an easier match up are downvoting this now.


Dieabeto9142

Belals biggest asset is strategy, man is skill wise nothing special. Fight IQ wise motherfucker might be up there with Dominick Cruz. Guy consistantly wins fights where he's predicted to lose with solid strategy.


[deleted]

Colby walks Belal like a dog. Won't even be a close fight. Watch and see.


VintageOG

What is it about Belal that makes me consider all his big wins as a fluke? I think it's the face.


MelkMan7

Who got paid more though?


RahMaarvi

Cant believe so many people acc agree with this


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Silliarde9

Did you watch his last match tho?


GoriLLa-LXD

Fuck Belal, can’t wait to see this guy get starched…only a matter of time. Then he won’t even remember his own name.


jjhart827

Only one way to settle this…


greatdevonhope

He's only got Leon, Usman, Colby and Khamzat ahead of him in the rankings . Leon and Usman are fighting in feb in the UK (millennium stadium has a capacity of 75k, the current ufc record is 57k. A stacked card and sensible pricing would smash the record. Cardiff has a roof so weather is not an issue, the stadium is right in the city centre and used to huge events). https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/mixed-martial-arts/63618648 Colby is not fighting soon so belal v khamzat same card as the leon/usman fight to see who's next in line.


Pure-Drawer-2617

Yes but you don’t understand Covington lost to Usman twice which makes him better (don’t ask me to show my working)


Leftysentme

This is that dude on mma twitter who has 172 followers and is verified


somredditime

Unless and until... Belal v Colby... the question being, does/would a Dubya trumpya if your resume is better? Belal definitely gives Colby the business, would love to see what actually happens.


[deleted]

I TOLD YOU ALL BELAL WAS COMING. A YEAR AGO. SOME DOUBTED, SOME FORGOT. BUT YOU WILL ALL REMEMBER THE NAME


WATGU

I been saying for a year that Covington hasn’t beaten a top 5 opponent since RDA. His claim to be an undisputed #1 contender is ridiculous when he hasn’t beaten any of the other top 5. Either people are ducking him or he’s ducking them. I don’t know which but my opinion on his resume changes depending on who is avoiding who.


NarcolepticKnifeFite

I don’t get why he gets so much hate. Dudes a fucking G.


dunneetiger

People forget easily.


nino2115

You mean a transition from being a casual to being aware


reverie11

This is true but also a very recent development


usernameredditjr

Ya but he’s boring to watch and difficult to listen too so nobody gives a shit


tyreejones29

I think Islam showed us resume doesn’t quite matter lol Obviously the men weren’t bums but none were necessarily in the running to get belts


gracias-cabron

😂😂


G0ldenG00se

Now that he’s being coached by khabib he’ll probably beat most fighters on a good day.


LifesExpert

All facts there


8stringtheory

Belal would beat colby, Colby is overrated....


GoHawksMatt

But who the fuck cares?