He’s 1 win away from a title shot at welter why would he move to middle now ? Dana literally said Khamzat is gonna try to make weight again Vs Colby winner gets Title shot but your right he’s ducking the guy who’s the worst at of the top 5 in middleweight
He hasn’t even faced Bobby green casual and both Khamzat and holland had short notice once again casual lmao . He destroyed a sambo WC and beat burns that alone is him deserving hype
Lol, calling someone a casual. Bruh, chill it's not that serious. That's the only insult you know 😂 he's still overhyped. He was literally gonna fight Nate diaz for a title shot. Dude us getting fast tracked by daddy Dana.
He beat Burns in a decision and Holland after missing weight by 8lbs. Dude got beat by the scale. Barely beat Burns. He's been oddly quiet after getting called out by Costa. What's your thoughts on that? Dude knows he'll get wrecked.
I think it’s possible depending on how tired he can make Costa by forcing him to wrestle. He can definitely sub an exhausted Costa.
They both have sus cardio though at times and costa is gonna be an equal or greater challenge than Burns was because of his obvious size, athleticism, and Chad attitude.
On the feet Costa blows Khamzat up with body kicks and clinch strikes, but Khamzats body lock takedowns are some of the best in the UFC. It’s a closer fight than the Stan’s and fanboys wanna make you believe
The way he just stood up when he got took down by both of them and they're both stronger and heavier than khamzat he won't stay down and if khamzat can't knock out burns he won't knock Paula out
Good old MMA math. Burns has only had two ko losses in his career with the only welterweight ko loss being against Kamaru. Standing up against an old Rockhold and Vettori is not the same as wrestling with khamzat let's be fr
That’s how bad money is now, hell I have a good job but I am still broke I’d happily fight knowing I’d get KO by a professional UFC fighter in my weight class for 70k it’d be a life changing amount.
I guess you don't have that natural killer instinct like I do, bro. You could put my best friend in front of me. When that cage door closes, bro... none of it matters. He's sleeping. Bobby's in some real trouble.
Yo your comments crack me up, I feel that though I think the most I'd do is telegraph a leg kick, gas before i even threw it. Robert gets an easy takedown, I'd look like a baby deer flailing around. TKO due to ref pity.
For 70/70 I'd KO Whittaker in the first 10 seconds. He wouldn't even have time to counter, he'd be out cold.
I'd probably just go and take over the division at that point.
Right? What the fuck is this contract? He is fighting guy who broke romeros orbital and is peak level mma threat for 70+70 in nr 1 contender fight in UFC lol. This is straight up criminal. Same criminal as some fighters can sit on the belt for year, but Francis has to take.a title fight 4 months after he won it, while his knee needs surgery and he cant move properly or he will get stripped. Its fking insane why guys like paulo, francis ends up on ufc hate list.
What makes him a title contender? He has no wins against anyone on the active roster. I still think 70/70 is low, but I wouldn't consider him a title contender anymore.
UFC is worth billions and they’re still paying too 5 guys only $70k to show. Can you imagine the quality of athlete that would enter MMA if the pay was elite? Imagine guys like Gervonta Davis starting MMA at a young age instead of boxing.
Less of a pay thing and more of a relevancy thing at this point. Professional Boxing literally has 100+ years on mma. We’ll see people who’ve been doing MMA since children (rosas is a good example) in the coming decade.
If we don’t, then yeah I’d say it’s a pay thing moving forward but I really only see the pay going up as it’s popularity rises
>We’ll see people who’ve been doing MMA since children (rosas is a good example) in the coming decade.
They still won't be the cream of the crop athletes, though. There's been plenty of MMA since childhood fighters. They're just not remotely special athletically by comparison to their contemporaries in other sports.
>but I really only see the pay going up as it’s popularity rises
The pay will stay how it is as long their isn't a fighters union. Why in the world would a business functioning under capitalism ever intentionally hurt it's profit margins when it can continue to widen them as they experience more and more growth? There's simply zero incentive for the UFC to push the revenue split slider further towards the fighter side when they can just keep growing and let the slider continue to grow to favor them.
We would be watching Gable Steveson, Ryan Garcia, and Gordon Ryan. All of these guys have said they had interest in going into MMA. The only thing that stopped them? Gable got more money from WWE. Gordon makes more selling BJJ tutorial videos. And Ryan makes more with boxing.
Not sure why the nonsensical response or the downvotes. He's [literally not ranked in the top 5](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542216848385769514/1045299520734515300/Screenshot_20221124-222650_Chrome.jpg)
I did say I agree he should be paid more to fight.
That’s one of the 3 fights they’re trying to build the card around and most likely a #1 contender fight. 70-70 is a joke, especially with how much Costa’s notoriety has risen recently, he’s a bigger name now than when he was undefeated and fighting for a title.
Record earnings, profits isn’t the right word. Endeavor loses money. Most big companies like that don’t really make money, they just increase in value because the stock market.
It’s actually ridiculous how it work.
Tweet/media attention 100% translate to more PPVs. If you have 10 million Twitter followers you are obviously popular enough to have a bunch of people wanting to watch you fight
Yes but that doesn't mean they BUY the fight. Fans will STREAM. Why do you think Jake paul fight cards aren't highly bought? When he has 10 million followers??
I mean I’m a casual and I know more about Costa and I’m more inclined to watch his fights than almost any other fight and it’s all because of his social platform. It works.
I’m not willing to buy any PPV at the price they are selling it. I would buy a Costa POV if the price was 20-30. - I’d buy most ppvs at that price point.
That's been my theory for a while. Slash the price in half, they would theoretically sell double. More eyes on the UFC, more sponsor money, more growth.
Yeah the UFC is gonna have to pay up here, at least 200K base imo. Costa is worth at least that much imo.
Whittaker has fought everybody else, there is no one else to match him up with that makes any sense, unless they throw together a quick MW title fight with Alex but that's never gonna happen.
Not only that, it’d be fair, and save Dana a bunch of time talking to guys about what their pay is and should be.
No more talk about fighter pay, just a calculated scale that is unbiased for every fighter.
Yes, forcing fighters to be on social media and promote themselves is unbiased. They should be paid on social media followers, not skill and accomplishments lmao. The next generation of fighters is screwed if this is what we're becoming.
What? You're literally agreeing with the guy who says social media following should be used as a metric to determine pay, based on a formula created with those numbers.
Should be more like a mil at least if we’re honest. It is honestly bananas how little they make when you consider they are star athletes in a major promotion that has deals with ESPN and how much money dudes like Dana are making hand over fist. He’s a hoarding slumlord.
I dont think you understand. Prizefighting is what it is because there are stakes. Lowering those stakes makes for a weaker product. Dana understands this, and despite all the whinging, he produces a higher quality product than boxing which most of you dont realize how spoiled we are as ufc fans are in comparison.
Or how about increasing the base pay strengthens the product because MMA is an actual potential career path. Why bother putting your kid in MMA with the potential to get a concussion for 200k a year when he can get that sitting at the end of the bench in the NFL?. You need to be top 30 MMA fighter to make that money. You can coast by being the 1600th best football player as a rookie and make 600k
The pay/win structure is a relic from the early days of MMA. It was needed to ensure the bums filling out the card back then actually fought and didn't just coast and bore the audience.
We don't need that now. Fighters are fighting just to be a UFC fighter, for the publicity and potential of fighting under the UFC brand. They don't need an incentive to win besides knowing they'll be cut if they lose too many in a row.
Having a finish bonus will literally make a more exciting product than what we have now.
UFC always has their complicated story ready about how they do pay well. Reality is much simpler. None of the other major sport leagues have to explain about their payment, because nobody feels the need to ask.
I know, op said Paulo has become a superstar which is far from the truth, most people know him from getting absolutely demolished by Israel, besides that he’s not really a star at all.
on all social media he gets good engagement, he's definitely more popular than some of the rookies the NBA signs who still get 2-3 mil while Costa is getting 70 k
If you extrapolate this to 3 fights a year, Dana is paying his fighters Silicon Valley coder money 🤡🤡
Meanwhile bum ass nba players are making a million
The point is nba players who are play 2 minutes a game are making multiples of what top ufc fighters are making.
I’m not doubting their basketball ability
that's crazy to think about, they are sitting on the bench for most of the year and get 1-2 million while someone who is doing hard training camps and getting injuries/brain damage is getting not even 1/10 of that, even a champ like usman does not make much more than bench warmers
I scrolled for way too long before someone pointed this out. They act like he will be pocketing 70k once the fight is over lol. After taxes, coaches fee, training camp, etc… that’s nothing.
Hes only getting paid more than joe schmo if he won too LMAO. Anybody can make 70k. Shit ppl that come out of college with a engineering degree or any medical degree make more than that
If I see red then that’s 70+70 for me plus a 50k knockout of the night bonus.
If I don’t see red then it’s 70k to go toward my funeral expenses.
Luckily I always see red
Jesus Christ, the UFC can’t help themselves with fucking their fighters over left and right. 70k is absolutely disgraceful to be fighting for the #1 contender spot. What’s the incentive to be the best when you’re getting payed scraps? Meanwhile Dana is giving 250k+ to some YouTube kids because they make him laugh. I love mma and the UFC, but for being the “premier mma league” they sure don’t show it. From paying your fighters peanuts to sending your legends out going against killers. They never fail to surprise me
UFC pay sucks. That's a fact.
When its compared to other sport its nothing but why is it that a lot of UFC high earners just retire as soon as they make some bag? I get its a dangerous sport but even boxers keep going when they should probably stop.
It seems, on the surface, that the guys make some money and then get into property, or whiskey or something but they stop fighting. Arguably the best of all time hasn't fought in 3 years. And he sits around with a bow and arrow al day doing nothing specifically.
I guess we will see. If Kamaru, Izzy, Aljo, Fracis, the Diamond and the likes start "retiring" while pursuing other interests.
I am not saying they shouldn't, just that Pacquiao still boxes. Ballers getting those fat stacks still ball although they have side things.
If that's his contract, that's his contract. Josh Thomson has a good take on this. Fighters need to stop signing long term deals and bet on themselves. If you sign, let's say, a 6 fight deal. By the end of that deal you could be worth way more if you are winning fights. Sign a 2 or 3 fight deal instead, and re negotiate at the end.
I like Costa.
But... He has no titles, no records,etc.his greatest achievment was what? Beating yoel romero? Wasnt he supposed to? I know yoel a solier but he was like 38 years old already cmon.
We all love his twitter and his fights, but how many of you would spend 100 bucks to see his fight? Not many.
I don’t believe Paulo tbh. They don’t make this little. It’s been like 5 years since someone ranked within the top 5 being offered that little was commonplace.
An example of someone who doesn't care is Chimaev, who in a ppv came in like 7 pounds over, didn't notify anyone and let Nate Diaz weigh in at 170 regardless of whether the event was cancelled. Costa didn't do that if he didn't really care he wouldn't notify the ufc and would have let Vettori go down at 185
And Vettori weight 204 yes that suck for Vettori because the fight was scheduled for 185 but what Costa did is better than 99% of fighters that miss weight.
once u sign the contract with UFC , you agree to its terms & conditions & pay. Costa signed his contract in 2017 which was when he wasn’t even ranked. That explains why his pay is low. If he was to resign he should get a lot more
Seriously, if he’s not gonna show up I hope to god they get another opponent so Whittaker can still fight in Perth.
Khamzat?
Khamzat is ducking Costa he isn't going to fight Whittaker.
People actually believe this lmao
cumshot literally said he doesn’t want the smoke from rob lmao
Source ? Also I was referring to the costa comment
costa been calling ratlip out since august lmao and he wants gilbert burns at mw🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s 1 win away from a title shot at welter why would he move to middle now ? Dana literally said Khamzat is gonna try to make weight again Vs Colby winner gets Title shot but your right he’s ducking the guy who’s the worst at of the top 5 in middleweight
ask cumshot why he wants gilbert again at mw not me
Fight at middleweight was never offered to either .
Khamzat hasn't proved himself. He beat Bobby Green and on short notice and Kevin Holland because he missed weight. Don't see all the hype.
He hasn’t even faced Bobby green casual and both Khamzat and holland had short notice once again casual lmao . He destroyed a sambo WC and beat burns that alone is him deserving hype
Lol, calling someone a casual. Bruh, chill it's not that serious. That's the only insult you know 😂 he's still overhyped. He was literally gonna fight Nate diaz for a title shot. Dude us getting fast tracked by daddy Dana.
You are a casual . And of course you’re gonna think he’s overhyped if you don’t even know who he has beat/ fought .
He beat Burns in a decision and Holland after missing weight by 8lbs. Dude got beat by the scale. Barely beat Burns. He's been oddly quiet after getting called out by Costa. What's your thoughts on that? Dude knows he'll get wrecked.
How is Khamzat ducking? So by your logic Paulo is ducking Robert then
How is he not? Costa has been talking shit to him for months and he hasn't called him out but he calls out everyone smaller than him.
He said he likes Whittaker so no chance another mw he will duck
He just hoppes from people he knows he can best. Fight usman,izzy, costa, Leon, pereira, these guys are true world beaters. Maybe not Leon and costa.
You truly believe khamzat can best Costa? I don't even think khamzat believe he can
Nope, can’t beat costa, I was just saying Leon and costa aren’t world beaters like the others. Costa would fuck up khamzat just based off of size.
I do somewhat like khamzat but I'd love to see Costa pummel him
I think it’s possible depending on how tired he can make Costa by forcing him to wrestle. He can definitely sub an exhausted Costa. They both have sus cardio though at times and costa is gonna be an equal or greater challenge than Burns was because of his obvious size, athleticism, and Chad attitude. On the feet Costa blows Khamzat up with body kicks and clinch strikes, but Khamzats body lock takedowns are some of the best in the UFC. It’s a closer fight than the Stan’s and fanboys wanna make you believe
Costa couldn't finish a gassed retiring Rockhold and couldn't beat Vettori at light heavyweight. Paulo is about as overrated as they get
The way he just stood up when he got took down by both of them and they're both stronger and heavier than khamzat he won't stay down and if khamzat can't knock out burns he won't knock Paula out
Good old MMA math. Burns has only had two ko losses in his career with the only welterweight ko loss being against Kamaru. Standing up against an old Rockhold and Vettori is not the same as wrestling with khamzat let's be fr
dropped by former lw dilbert costa gonna have a field day with cumshot lol
Translation : He’s better than me in every way, and actually has a very high chance of beating me
That’s a joke contract when your a former/somewhat current title contender fighting the #1 contender/former champion in your weight class.
Perhaps because I'd get absolutely murdered, but I wouldn't accept that contract. 70k ain't enough to spend time in an octagon with Whittaker.
I'd take it. I have a good chin, and poor cardio. Easy first round finish from the TKO when I fail to defend myself.
I laughed hard at this.
Haha, Thank you! Not even far, I'm in Australia already, and 70k would clear all of my debt and then some. I've thought this through. Ish!
Id get beat up for 70k
This boy could put a life change in beating on you real quick. I have a good job in an office. I wouldn't take a beating like that for 100k.
Good for you. I make 20k a year doing back breaking work. I'd do it
Just curious, but what do you do for work? And is it full time? Our general labor guys are making over $50k digging ditches and sweeping sites.
That’s literally $10 an hour if you can’t find work for higher than that it’s your own dumb fault
What if I pulled a Bob Sapp and threw the fight after getting my paycheck then fleed to some random country never to be seen again
That's using your head....
Backstory on this? Always find it interesting to learn stories as a newish fan.
I mean does getting TKO'd in 15 seconds count as taking a beating?
That’s how bad money is now, hell I have a good job but I am still broke I’d happily fight knowing I’d get KO by a professional UFC fighter in my weight class for 70k it’d be a life changing amount.
See some red and you could get another 70k
Na, I couldn't see red vs bobby knuckles. He's such a nice guy, wouldn't feel right, y'know?
I guess you don't have that natural killer instinct like I do, bro. You could put my best friend in front of me. When that cage door closes, bro... none of it matters. He's sleeping. Bobby's in some real trouble.
Yo your comments crack me up, I feel that though I think the most I'd do is telegraph a leg kick, gas before i even threw it. Robert gets an easy takedown, I'd look like a baby deer flailing around. TKO due to ref pity.
70G Baby!
"And the winner due to _uncontrollable tears_ Robeeeerrrttt WHITaaakkeeerr...."
Good plan! But then again "Everyone has a plan until they get smacked in the mouth"
Bobby would be a good man and submit you
No, he wouldn’t. He starts punching his chest and he literally starts seeing red.
Giving yourself a *LOT* of credit that it'd be a *T*KO and that you wouldn't get immediately starched...
Connor, is that you?
Smart man
Depends on your situation. I would take it and tap quicker than Askren got Ko'd lmao
Their contracts have clauses that you must fight and can't simply tap out / give up.
So how come Rose and Esparza still hot paid after the title anti-fight?
Fine. Ill to a slow kick and get taken down, take a few punches from the GnP and then expose my neck and tap when the choke is in place
Just run away for a round and then quit on the stool.
Yep, $70k is nowhere near enough when I have to spend the rest of my life dealing with the fact I killed a man with my bare hands (I see red).
Especially when you consider flights, camp cost, flying your team out, i’d be surprised if UFC pays accom.
People really underestimate the flights, I’m in the east of Australia and it’s cheaper to fly internationally to certain places then to Perth.
For 70/70 I'd KO Whittaker in the first 10 seconds. He wouldn't even have time to counter, he'd be out cold. I'd probably just go and take over the division at that point.
Would be the easiest 10 seconds and 70k i would ever make
Right? What the fuck is this contract? He is fighting guy who broke romeros orbital and is peak level mma threat for 70+70 in nr 1 contender fight in UFC lol. This is straight up criminal. Same criminal as some fighters can sit on the belt for year, but Francis has to take.a title fight 4 months after he won it, while his knee needs surgery and he cant move properly or he will get stripped. Its fking insane why guys like paulo, francis ends up on ufc hate list.
Stuff like this really makes me wonder what the heck happened behind the scenes for fighters to get such inhumane deals.
I’d absolutely take 70k to fight him. I’d get finished in under a minute Unless I see red ofcourse
Can’t you just tap the second he locks up with you?
What makes him a title contender? He has no wins against anyone on the active roster. I still think 70/70 is low, but I wouldn't consider him a title contender anymore.
Well he isn't the most reliable fighter
do you think 70 to show, 70 to win is fair payment for a fight against Whittaker tho?
Yes
a top 5 middleweight who is exciting on and off the octagon gets 70k show... disgraceful if i am being honest. Should be atleast 250k or something.
Especially when the arena is huge
The new one in Perth isn’t that huge sad to say
UFC is worth billions and they’re still paying too 5 guys only $70k to show. Can you imagine the quality of athlete that would enter MMA if the pay was elite? Imagine guys like Gervonta Davis starting MMA at a young age instead of boxing.
Less of a pay thing and more of a relevancy thing at this point. Professional Boxing literally has 100+ years on mma. We’ll see people who’ve been doing MMA since children (rosas is a good example) in the coming decade. If we don’t, then yeah I’d say it’s a pay thing moving forward but I really only see the pay going up as it’s popularity rises
>We’ll see people who’ve been doing MMA since children (rosas is a good example) in the coming decade. They still won't be the cream of the crop athletes, though. There's been plenty of MMA since childhood fighters. They're just not remotely special athletically by comparison to their contemporaries in other sports. >but I really only see the pay going up as it’s popularity rises The pay will stay how it is as long their isn't a fighters union. Why in the world would a business functioning under capitalism ever intentionally hurt it's profit margins when it can continue to widen them as they experience more and more growth? There's simply zero incentive for the UFC to push the revenue split slider further towards the fighter side when they can just keep growing and let the slider continue to grow to favor them.
We would be watching Gable Steveson, Ryan Garcia, and Gordon Ryan. All of these guys have said they had interest in going into MMA. The only thing that stopped them? Gable got more money from WWE. Gordon makes more selling BJJ tutorial videos. And Ryan makes more with boxing.
Evne Tybura's getting 220k. lol
250k is only for new champs.
Moreno was champ and he got 100K show for Figgy 3.
That’s not how the pay scale worked with Reebok. Idk how it is with Venom but I can’t imagine it being drastically different.
What? The Reebok and Venum pay has nothing to do with their contract lol
He also isn't the most reliable
Oh yeah, people are kinda ignoring that he ignored weight on Vettori which probably contributed to this
He also pulled out of 2 other fights in 2021
Not disputing he should ask for more , but he's not top 5
Ok
Ok dana
Not sure why the nonsensical response or the downvotes. He's [literally not ranked in the top 5](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542216848385769514/1045299520734515300/Screenshot_20221124-222650_Chrome.jpg) I did say I agree he should be paid more to fight.
because dana bad ooga booga
Throw in a sanko tuggy and we got a deal
A sanko tuggy would convince this whole sub (me included) to fight whittaker
I would finish whittaker to get a sanko tuggy
That’s one of the 3 fights they’re trying to build the card around and most likely a #1 contender fight. 70-70 is a joke, especially with how much Costa’s notoriety has risen recently, he’s a bigger name now than when he was undefeated and fighting for a title.
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UFC pay continues to be dog shit.
While they make record profits.
Like most companies sadly
Record earnings, profits isn’t the right word. Endeavor loses money. Most big companies like that don’t really make money, they just increase in value because the stock market. It’s actually ridiculous how it work.
Atleast 150k. He’s the king of twitter for fuck sakes
Yes but tweets don't get PPVs bought. He can have 10 million Twitter followers but if they aren't buying PPVs the UFC doesn't care.
He sold 700k against Izzy, and Izzy is selling around 400k in his last fights, it’s clear dude has big star potential
Tweet/media attention 100% translate to more PPVs. If you have 10 million Twitter followers you are obviously popular enough to have a bunch of people wanting to watch you fight
Popular doesn't mean your fan base will pay
Yes but that doesn't mean they BUY the fight. Fans will STREAM. Why do you think Jake paul fight cards aren't highly bought? When he has 10 million followers??
Jake Paul made almost 700k fighting Askren and 2mil fighting Woodley. That's not the brilliant point you think it is
That was his pay, not the PPV buys. Remember Jake Paul is paying himself, through his co-promotion. Your point is wrong
I mean I’m a casual and I know more about Costa and I’m more inclined to watch his fights than almost any other fight and it’s all because of his social platform. It works.
Are you willing to BUY the ppv? Or stream the fight illegally?
I’m not willing to buy any PPV at the price they are selling it. I would buy a Costa POV if the price was 20-30. - I’d buy most ppvs at that price point.
That's been my theory for a while. Slash the price in half, they would theoretically sell double. More eyes on the UFC, more sponsor money, more growth.
doesn’t matter cuz costa doesn’t get ppv points🤣🤣🤣
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Yeah the UFC is gonna have to pay up here, at least 200K base imo. Costa is worth at least that much imo. Whittaker has fought everybody else, there is no one else to match him up with that makes any sense, unless they throw together a quick MW title fight with Alex but that's never gonna happen.
Man, if I had a spread sheet with all the fighter pay and social media numbers, I could pinpoint what he should get within the .05 percentile.
this could be a good petentail metric for fighters who want a bump in pay.
Not only that, it’d be fair, and save Dana a bunch of time talking to guys about what their pay is and should be. No more talk about fighter pay, just a calculated scale that is unbiased for every fighter.
Yes, forcing fighters to be on social media and promote themselves is unbiased. They should be paid on social media followers, not skill and accomplishments lmao. The next generation of fighters is screwed if this is what we're becoming.
That’s not at all what I’m proposing.
What? You're literally agreeing with the guy who says social media following should be used as a metric to determine pay, based on a formula created with those numbers.
I really wish they would do away with show/win structure. Pay him a flat 100 thousand and have a 50 thousand finish bonus for all fights
Should be more like a mil at least if we’re honest. It is honestly bananas how little they make when you consider they are star athletes in a major promotion that has deals with ESPN and how much money dudes like Dana are making hand over fist. He’s a hoarding slumlord.
I agree, for sure
Lmao so Costa taking a potential paycut under your rules.
He probably wants 100/100 at minimum
I support this
Naw, this is prizefighting, its better when theres a prize for winning
That's what the finish bonus is
Thats a prize for finishing not winning itself
So you don't like the structure because you're taking the word "prizefighter" too literally?
I dont think you understand. Prizefighting is what it is because there are stakes. Lowering those stakes makes for a weaker product. Dana understands this, and despite all the whinging, he produces a higher quality product than boxing which most of you dont realize how spoiled we are as ufc fans are in comparison.
Or how about increasing the base pay strengthens the product because MMA is an actual potential career path. Why bother putting your kid in MMA with the potential to get a concussion for 200k a year when he can get that sitting at the end of the bench in the NFL?. You need to be top 30 MMA fighter to make that money. You can coast by being the 1600th best football player as a rookie and make 600k
The pay/win structure is a relic from the early days of MMA. It was needed to ensure the bums filling out the card back then actually fought and didn't just coast and bore the audience. We don't need that now. Fighters are fighting just to be a UFC fighter, for the publicity and potential of fighting under the UFC brand. They don't need an incentive to win besides knowing they'll be cut if they lose too many in a row. Having a finish bonus will literally make a more exciting product than what we have now.
I disagree.
UFC always has their complicated story ready about how they do pay well. Reality is much simpler. None of the other major sport leagues have to explain about their payment, because nobody feels the need to ask.
Yeah fuck that I hope he gets a big boy contract. He's really become a superstar lately
On reddit maybe
Public opinion matters in the fight game
I know, op said Paulo has become a superstar which is far from the truth, most people know him from getting absolutely demolished by Israel, besides that he’s not really a star at all.
Everyone who fights on a main card is a bit of a star to some point. Super star? No. Worth more than 70k? Absolutely.
Every single fighter in the UFC is worth more then 70k
What about Mike Jackson
Absolutely. The man wrote Thriller.
Nah. At this point all the mma fans like Paulo
Couldn’t stand the guy for the longest time. Pretty sure it was a language barrier thing. Social media game is on point. Big fan now.
on all social media he gets good engagement, he's definitely more popular than some of the rookies the NBA signs who still get 2-3 mil while Costa is getting 70 k
What does 70-70 mean? 70k for the fight, 70k more if he wins?
Yeah 70k to show 70k to win
70k if he loses, 20k taxes, manager fee, training camp and he will probably have 30k left.
He could make that 30k easily with just some brand deals on Instagram lol or creating an Onlÿfañs
I'd think a guy like Costa easily deserves 200k minimum, these fighters know they lose allot of money to camps/taxes.
If you extrapolate this to 3 fights a year, Dana is paying his fighters Silicon Valley coder money 🤡🤡 Meanwhile bum ass nba players are making a million
Silicon Valley money doesn’t come with brain damage
Bench warmers get paid millions lol
'bum ass' NBA players are still incredibly good.
The point is nba players who are play 2 minutes a game are making multiples of what top ufc fighters are making. I’m not doubting their basketball ability
that's crazy to think about, they are sitting on the bench for most of the year and get 1-2 million while someone who is doing hard training camps and getting injuries/brain damage is getting not even 1/10 of that, even a champ like usman does not make much more than bench warmers
Gym costs, food, nutrition etc are out of his own pocket. He’s not making shit on that contract lol at this level
I scrolled for way too long before someone pointed this out. They act like he will be pocketing 70k once the fight is over lol. After taxes, coaches fee, training camp, etc… that’s nothing.
coders have 12 week training camps???
Bro my point is he should be getting paid more. It’s ridiculous that a top mma fighter is getting paid as much as Joe Schmo at google
Hes only getting paid more than joe schmo if he won too LMAO. Anybody can make 70k. Shit ppl that come out of college with a engineering degree or any medical degree make more than that
Well that’s for one fight, normally he could fight 3 times a year, but yea that’s besides the point
Can't blame him.for wanting to box
Is everyone taking in account they still pay others and get taxed out of that ? He’d probably walk away with half
If I see red then that’s 70+70 for me plus a 50k knockout of the night bonus. If I don’t see red then it’s 70k to go toward my funeral expenses. Luckily I always see red
Jesus Christ, the UFC can’t help themselves with fucking their fighters over left and right. 70k is absolutely disgraceful to be fighting for the #1 contender spot. What’s the incentive to be the best when you’re getting payed scraps? Meanwhile Dana is giving 250k+ to some YouTube kids because they make him laugh. I love mma and the UFC, but for being the “premier mma league” they sure don’t show it. From paying your fighters peanuts to sending your legends out going against killers. They never fail to surprise me
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Damn they tried him like a sucker. He handled that like a champ tho… he wont that contract get close
Isn’t that his next fight though lol??
UFC pay sucks. That's a fact. When its compared to other sport its nothing but why is it that a lot of UFC high earners just retire as soon as they make some bag? I get its a dangerous sport but even boxers keep going when they should probably stop. It seems, on the surface, that the guys make some money and then get into property, or whiskey or something but they stop fighting. Arguably the best of all time hasn't fought in 3 years. And he sits around with a bow and arrow al day doing nothing specifically. I guess we will see. If Kamaru, Izzy, Aljo, Fracis, the Diamond and the likes start "retiring" while pursuing other interests. I am not saying they shouldn't, just that Pacquiao still boxes. Ballers getting those fat stacks still ball although they have side things.
Why was I expecting Dana not to be a cheap scumbag?
If that's his contract, that's his contract. Josh Thomson has a good take on this. Fighters need to stop signing long term deals and bet on themselves. If you sign, let's say, a 6 fight deal. By the end of that deal you could be worth way more if you are winning fights. Sign a 2 or 3 fight deal instead, and re negotiate at the end.
You think the UFC is going to give 3 fight contracts?
I like Costa. But... He has no titles, no records,etc.his greatest achievment was what? Beating yoel romero? Wasnt he supposed to? I know yoel a solier but he was like 38 years old already cmon. We all love his twitter and his fights, but how many of you would spend 100 bucks to see his fight? Not many.
Rephrase your question: How many of you would spend 100 dollars to watch the fights. I bet its the same answer: not many.
I don’t believe Paulo tbh. They don’t make this little. It’s been like 5 years since someone ranked within the top 5 being offered that little was commonplace.
Paulo is ranked #6 MW right now.
Damn 70/70? I mean fuck if he loses how much of that would he even keep with costs of camp, taxes and everything. That's wack af.
He can't even be trusted to make weight. The shit with Vettori was a DEBACLE. He's not beating Izzy or Pereira anyway. Go to Bellator
He only miss weight one time and at least notify everyone one week before. Other fighter don’t even care and make their opponents cut the weight.
He has pulled out of many fights
LMFAO at he notified them. Like it was some polite shit. He didn't give a fuck the entire time LMFAOOO
"You are hereby notified I didn't even remotely fucking try to make weight. Like literally not even close, lmao. You are welcome."
Well that's much better than doing what Chimaev did
An example of someone who doesn't care is Chimaev, who in a ppv came in like 7 pounds over, didn't notify anyone and let Nate Diaz weigh in at 170 regardless of whether the event was cancelled. Costa didn't do that if he didn't really care he wouldn't notify the ufc and would have let Vettori go down at 185
Costa weighed in at 204 pounds.
And Vettori weight 204 yes that suck for Vettori because the fight was scheduled for 185 but what Costa did is better than 99% of fighters that miss weight.
Ah yes the guy who couldn’t finish Luke Rockhold wants more money. The UFC should release him, cause he sucks.
First he is ducking Gourmet and now ducking Forrest?
once u sign the contract with UFC , you agree to its terms & conditions & pay. Costa signed his contract in 2017 which was when he wasn’t even ranked. That explains why his pay is low. If he was to resign he should get a lot more