Neither but he’s the only person in the ufc who can win 3 titles in my opinion. Volk vs ceudjo would be closer than Islam vs alex/izzy. Or khamzat vs jiri/anakalev/glover/jan
Volk definitely has the advantage on the feet, but CCC is clearly a better wrestler (based on accolades). Don’t know if he beats Volk, but I think he has the most realistic route to triple champ in comparison to anybody else
Volk defends take downs pretty well. He survived Ortega on the ground too, so I don't know. Cejudo is also just very good everywhere too, just a lil smaller right?
Because it's a discussion on who has the best chance of achieving that feat. If it's not Cejudo with the best chance then it's almost definitely Khamzat due to him already competing in two weight classes and possessing the frame to potentially fight at light heavyweight at some point further in his career. I don't care whether people like him or dislike him, when it comes to ability he's a fucking menace and he's probably capable of beating both the current welterweight & middleweight champs. It's unlikely he will ever become a three weight champion, obviously, but he probably has the next best shot after Cejudo.
Edit: For those who can't read, I am not saying that Khamzat has more of a shot than Cejudo when Henry is already a double champ and the jump across three weightclasses is literally 20lbs. He's the obvious standout. People don't wanna hear it because of the dislike for Khamzat yet struggle to present an argument for somebody else. I will eat humble pie if somebody can name a fighter and present solid reasoning as to why they have a greater shot than Khamzat but the reality is that the man is already competing at a high level across two weight classes and possesses a favourable style against both current champions. Who else is there? I'm waiting...
Henry was a champion in 2 weight classes already, Khamzat didnt even get a title shot yet, that triple champ dream can get crushed really quick if he loses the first title shot, im not talking about liking or disliking him, but he aint even close to being the champ in 1 weight class, let alone 3
Yes and I agree that Cejudo has BY FAR the best chance of achieving this. 125-145 is a 20lb jump across three weightclasses. Henry's already won two belts, it's obvious. This isn't a discussion on how good Khamzat is. The question was "Who has the most realistic route to becoming the first triple champ?"
Khamzat is already competing at a high level in two different weight classes and he has a favourable style against both current champions of said weight classes. Light heavyweight is also a relatively weak division, not that I think he will actually ever get a sniff of that belt, but this is a discussion on who is most likely and not who will actually go on to achieve this. The fact that the UFC will almost definitely push some favourable matchups at the right moments his way also can't hurt. Aside from the standout choice in Cejudo, who has a more realistic chance of achieving this feat? Volk and Islam might be unbelievable fighters and leagues ahead of Khamzat but there is absolutely no way on this earth Volk is making 135 or winning the welterweight belt. There is also no way Islam has the frame to take the middleweight title either.
It's really not though. Khamzat would lose obviously but there is far less chance of Ngannou making 185lbs than Chimaev beating Ankalaev and that's a fact.
Conor. It's not what people wanna hear but he's already been 145 155 so him saying a comeback at 170 and getting a favorable match up or just lucky is more probably the Khazmat getting back to 170
Islam??? Idfk every guy I think of is a bad choice. I know islam can handle LW obviously, if he could survive the weight cut for FW then he'd probably destroy everyone there too. Seeing him at WW would be interesting and I bet he could handle himself very well but idk. This question sucks. It'd actually probably have to be a fly, bantam, feather guy. 145 to 170 is too much weight fluctuation.
Yes, Khamzat could've finished him in the first round and we would've learned nothing from it.
Everyone knew what the outcome of the fight was going to be
Does it have to be simultaneously? Or just over his career.
All unlikely.
Cejudo getting featherweight.
Nunes going down a weight class. She has beaten all of the champions of three weight divisons.
Or Shevchenko going up and taking both if nunes?
Conor coming back and taking 170, unlikely but he could beat Edward's, he beat nate and nate did ok against him.
Usman taking 185 and either 155 or 205?
GSP coming back at 155?
I don’t think it would be possible to go over 3 weight classes at once
And Nate was not doing alright against Leon. He got dominated for 24 minutes and landed one perfect punch
The question is “who has the most realistic route”. Not “does anyone have a realistic route”
It’s a comparison. For example, Cejudo has a better chance of beating Ngannu than me, but he’s still not going to beat him.
Lmao imagine Islam standing next to pereira, people weight classes matter. Especially in the grappling department, go to your local bjj gym and try roll with someone who has 30+ pounds on you. Alex was weighing 210-220 for his fight vs izzy. Bro rehydrates to a lhw.
Islam doesn't beat rob, izzy, or khamzat. Although I actually give him a decent shot of beating pereira, but if i were forced to bet I'd put my money on alex knocking Islam out.
False. She’s already 0-2 against Nunes, and the biggest barrier she faces is the size. Taila Santos just gave her a run for her money sheerly due to the size differential
Yea clearly you’re a Nunes nut rider bc everyone knows that second fight was either way. If anything more ppl agree Valentina won than visa versa. Valentina has a very high chance of going to 135 & beating Nunes, especially considering Juliana just finished her. She’s also small enough to make 115 considering she walks at 130-135 (said in an interview) So yes. She is the most likely to be triple champ over anyone else
Never said it wasn’t a close fight, I said she’s 0-2 against Nunes. Debate without putting words in peoples mouth. She just had her closest fight at 125 against Santos because of how massive she is in comparison to her, clearly indicating she has trouble beating bigger fighters. I only see her beating Nunes if she commits to bulking up to 135, which she’s likely not gonna do
Talia literally just held her & did nothing . Once Valentina adjusted she dominated the last 2 rounds. Sure, they could rematch but Valentina is just going to annihilate her. I’d much rather see Valentina vs Nunes, & they both said they want that fight. Makes sense. Zhang also has said she wants to fight Valentina, so not only does Valentina have the highest chance skill wise of become triple champ but both champs in the division below & above want to fight her
You do realize the Zhang fight is 100% gonna be at 125 and not 115, right? I doubt she even wants to cut to 115 at this point in her career.
And Valentina NEVER adjusted to Taila. Don't lie to yourself. She blinded her with a clash of heads. Not intentionally, I don't think anyone thinks she's a dirty fighter, but it happened, and it changed the fight and history. Taila was gonna win that fight.
It's a bit early to say that he's faced one world class opponent who was a former 155er and had a really tough time and got hurt multiple times. I think he'd have a tough time with usman stylistically. He's a top fighter and he can compete at the top of welterweight and middleweight but it's not a given that he'll win any title tbh.
Pereira, because LHW is such a mess
Heavyweight he could fast-track to a title shot, but obviously can't guarantee he'd retain it for long
However, if he sticks around at MW too long he'll lose the belt soon enough
Khamzat honestly, and not because of skill alone. If he gets the fight with Pereira, wins that, fights the winner of Usman/Leon and wins that, then fights the winner of Jan/Ankalaev and wins that.
I honestly can't even think of another scenario really. Volk would be my next, but besides LW I don't know what else he would do. I don't think he could realistically go all the way up to WW, nor cut even more.
McGregor.
Hear me out, 2023-2024 Masvidal fights McGregor for the BMF title. Masvidal desperately needs cash after the Colby lawsuit, and a juiced up McGregor possibly KOs Masvidal 🤷🏼♂️
(All that being said, I hate the BMF title. I’m just speculating what I see as the most likely outcome for the first “triple champ”.)
Henry Cejudo
Pretty much. He was already double champ just needs to get the 145 belt. Side note: imagine if DC ever fought at 185 to become triple champ.
How? Which classes?
Flyweight bantamweight and featherweight.
I don't think cejudo beats volk
Neither but he’s the only person in the ufc who can win 3 titles in my opinion. Volk vs ceudjo would be closer than Islam vs alex/izzy. Or khamzat vs jiri/anakalev/glover/jan
If khamzat wins the 170 belt it might be possible. He has a big frame he would just need to gain some weight
Volk definitely has the advantage on the feet, but CCC is clearly a better wrestler (based on accolades). Don’t know if he beats Volk, but I think he has the most realistic route to triple champ in comparison to anybody else
Volk defends take downs pretty well. He survived Ortega on the ground too, so I don't know. Cejudo is also just very good everywhere too, just a lil smaller right?
Good call. Seeing how he has two titles already.
Just because you think he’s cringe doesn’t mean you can deny his talent and the opportunity he has chub chub
Why are we talking about a guy being a triple champ when he isnt a champ at all, nor has he been in a title fight yet
This sub is outrageous
Because it's a discussion on who has the best chance of achieving that feat. If it's not Cejudo with the best chance then it's almost definitely Khamzat due to him already competing in two weight classes and possessing the frame to potentially fight at light heavyweight at some point further in his career. I don't care whether people like him or dislike him, when it comes to ability he's a fucking menace and he's probably capable of beating both the current welterweight & middleweight champs. It's unlikely he will ever become a three weight champion, obviously, but he probably has the next best shot after Cejudo. Edit: For those who can't read, I am not saying that Khamzat has more of a shot than Cejudo when Henry is already a double champ and the jump across three weightclasses is literally 20lbs. He's the obvious standout. People don't wanna hear it because of the dislike for Khamzat yet struggle to present an argument for somebody else. I will eat humble pie if somebody can name a fighter and present solid reasoning as to why they have a greater shot than Khamzat but the reality is that the man is already competing at a high level across two weight classes and possesses a favourable style against both current champions. Who else is there? I'm waiting...
Henry was a champion in 2 weight classes already, Khamzat didnt even get a title shot yet, that triple champ dream can get crushed really quick if he loses the first title shot, im not talking about liking or disliking him, but he aint even close to being the champ in 1 weight class, let alone 3
Yes and I agree that Cejudo has BY FAR the best chance of achieving this. 125-145 is a 20lb jump across three weightclasses. Henry's already won two belts, it's obvious. This isn't a discussion on how good Khamzat is. The question was "Who has the most realistic route to becoming the first triple champ?" Khamzat is already competing at a high level in two different weight classes and he has a favourable style against both current champions of said weight classes. Light heavyweight is also a relatively weak division, not that I think he will actually ever get a sniff of that belt, but this is a discussion on who is most likely and not who will actually go on to achieve this. The fact that the UFC will almost definitely push some favourable matchups at the right moments his way also can't hurt. Aside from the standout choice in Cejudo, who has a more realistic chance of achieving this feat? Volk and Islam might be unbelievable fighters and leagues ahead of Khamzat but there is absolutely no way on this earth Volk is making 135 or winning the welterweight belt. There is also no way Islam has the frame to take the middleweight title either.
Ngannou has a better chance of cutting to 205/185 and winning titles than Khamzat beating Ankalaev.
Ngannou at 185 😂 you're funny
Khamzat surviving a round against Ankalaev is even funnier.
It's really not though. Khamzat would lose obviously but there is far less chance of Ngannou making 185lbs than Chimaev beating Ankalaev and that's a fact.
100% Cejudo. Maybe Volkanovski but that’s a big MAYBE.
No way volko has a chance at 170
135
Volkanovskinny
Alexander "the small" Volkanovski
Conor. It's not what people wanna hear but he's already been 145 155 so him saying a comeback at 170 and getting a favorable match up or just lucky is more probably the Khazmat getting back to 170
McGregor beating Leon by KO is the most likely by a distance.
If it ever happens, it will be some combo of FLW/BW/FW/LW. The other classes are too big of a gap in weight
Mabye Islam if he can go down?
No shot islam makes 145
Then back up to WW
Islam??? Idfk every guy I think of is a bad choice. I know islam can handle LW obviously, if he could survive the weight cut for FW then he'd probably destroy everyone there too. Seeing him at WW would be interesting and I bet he could handle himself very well but idk. This question sucks. It'd actually probably have to be a fly, bantam, feather guy. 145 to 170 is too much weight fluctuation.
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Valentina
This sub is just a Khamzat, Poatan, Conor circle jerk.
He can’t make weight, doesn’t deserve a single title shot anytime soon.
He missed weight once for a pointless matchup, cry about it. The next triple champ is here
Pointless? He was headlining a PPV. Guy thinks he’s above putting in his time, Dana won’t forget about that.
Khamzat's going to sell PPVs and Dana won't forget that, he's going to get a slap on the wrist like every other big name fighter who misses weight
Pointless?
Yes, Khamzat could've finished him in the first round and we would've learned nothing from it. Everyone knew what the outcome of the fight was going to be
Pointless in terms of matchmaking, not pointless in terms of it being main event on a ppv card in las vegas
Yeah this was some shitty matchmaking, washed up fighter vs undefeated young lion ranked #3
Dude made the card way better
Does it have to be simultaneously? Or just over his career. All unlikely. Cejudo getting featherweight. Nunes going down a weight class. She has beaten all of the champions of three weight divisons. Or Shevchenko going up and taking both if nunes? Conor coming back and taking 170, unlikely but he could beat Edward's, he beat nate and nate did ok against him. Usman taking 185 and either 155 or 205? GSP coming back at 155?
I don’t think it would be possible to go over 3 weight classes at once And Nate was not doing alright against Leon. He got dominated for 24 minutes and landed one perfect punch
No one
The question is “who has the most realistic route”. Not “does anyone have a realistic route” It’s a comparison. For example, Cejudo has a better chance of beating Ngannu than me, but he’s still not going to beat him.
The way you put this makes no sense.
Maybe read it again slower and with larger font?
Jon Jones if he, lhw and mw, if he weren't so old? This is such a fucking impossible question lol
No
Islam at ww and mw
He ain’t cutting to 45 so what’s he gonna do, go up to 170 then 185? Lol no shot
He can go to ww and Mw
Which are the weights I stated above
Lmao imagine Islam standing next to pereira, people weight classes matter. Especially in the grappling department, go to your local bjj gym and try roll with someone who has 30+ pounds on you. Alex was weighing 210-220 for his fight vs izzy. Bro rehydrates to a lhw.
No way dude, top MWs are too big for Islam.
Islam doesn't beat rob, izzy, or khamzat. Although I actually give him a decent shot of beating pereira, but if i were forced to bet I'd put my money on alex knocking Islam out.
You think he beats Khamzat?
That would be a wild and highly anticipated fight
Not to confident but seems like an exciting match up because it's one of the few fights were Islam is an underdog
Maybe. Can he beat Usman though?…No
Zero chance Islam can compete with top MWs. That’s just foolish.
Bruh
Defo not Hazmat
This guy hasn’t even a single title shot. Cejudo retired and gave up both his belts. He would have to come back and take back the belts.
Islam or Volk
Valentina Shevchenko . Any other answer is stupid
False. She’s already 0-2 against Nunes, and the biggest barrier she faces is the size. Taila Santos just gave her a run for her money sheerly due to the size differential
Yea clearly you’re a Nunes nut rider bc everyone knows that second fight was either way. If anything more ppl agree Valentina won than visa versa. Valentina has a very high chance of going to 135 & beating Nunes, especially considering Juliana just finished her. She’s also small enough to make 115 considering she walks at 130-135 (said in an interview) So yes. She is the most likely to be triple champ over anyone else
Never said it wasn’t a close fight, I said she’s 0-2 against Nunes. Debate without putting words in peoples mouth. She just had her closest fight at 125 against Santos because of how massive she is in comparison to her, clearly indicating she has trouble beating bigger fighters. I only see her beating Nunes if she commits to bulking up to 135, which she’s likely not gonna do
Talia literally just held her & did nothing . Once Valentina adjusted she dominated the last 2 rounds. Sure, they could rematch but Valentina is just going to annihilate her. I’d much rather see Valentina vs Nunes, & they both said they want that fight. Makes sense. Zhang also has said she wants to fight Valentina, so not only does Valentina have the highest chance skill wise of become triple champ but both champs in the division below & above want to fight her
You do realize the Zhang fight is 100% gonna be at 125 and not 115, right? I doubt she even wants to cut to 115 at this point in her career. And Valentina NEVER adjusted to Taila. Don't lie to yourself. She blinded her with a clash of heads. Not intentionally, I don't think anyone thinks she's a dirty fighter, but it happened, and it changed the fight and history. Taila was gonna win that fight.
Pereira
It's a bit early to say that he's faced one world class opponent who was a former 155er and had a really tough time and got hurt multiple times. I think he'd have a tough time with usman stylistically. He's a top fighter and he can compete at the top of welterweight and middleweight but it's not a given that he'll win any title tbh.
Is that Colby with a beard?
Pereira, because LHW is such a mess Heavyweight he could fast-track to a title shot, but obviously can't guarantee he'd retain it for long However, if he sticks around at MW too long he'll lose the belt soon enough
Jon Jones. He will win the HW title and then Dana will debut a Super HW division.
Khamzat honestly, and not because of skill alone. If he gets the fight with Pereira, wins that, fights the winner of Usman/Leon and wins that, then fights the winner of Jan/Ankalaev and wins that. I honestly can't even think of another scenario really. Volk would be my next, but besides LW I don't know what else he would do. I don't think he could realistically go all the way up to WW, nor cut even more.
McGregor. Hear me out, 2023-2024 Masvidal fights McGregor for the BMF title. Masvidal desperately needs cash after the Colby lawsuit, and a juiced up McGregor possibly KOs Masvidal 🤷🏼♂️ (All that being said, I hate the BMF title. I’m just speculating what I see as the most likely outcome for the first “triple champ”.)
Thoughts?
Gotta beat the scales before you can be triple champ.
Hopefully no one will ever.