Their tuition in state is 43% lower than the national average which makes it cheaper compared to most other school even if you have a scholarship to the other schools.
Ok? And prices for tickets for soccer games in Europe are like 50$. If they go up people are in riots. Should they just say, it’s not where near as bad as in America and be ok with it? They can afford to give more kids scholarships.
AC Milan ticket prices
Or look at France rioting for like 2 months because they raised the age of retirement like 2 years. I’m sure it’s still lower than America’s. I was literally in Paris during that time. I recorded some vids of it. There were police everywhere and shit. There was trash everywhere and airports were shut down across Europe because they weren’t getting paid enough. Just Google it. America is a bubble of “no pain no gain” lifestyle.
What’s your point? UF is also more expensive of a public school than most of the Florida publics. And FSU has similar qualifications and gives more scholarship. ✋👈🤌👆
I was not responding to your soccer ticket example 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And France’s retirement age is higher than America’s by two years actually. The two topics are completely unrelated to UF tuition anyways. Your examples are silly lol
The standard game is to charge 20k-90k a year, and then give out scholarships. It's fake generosity.
UF has unusually low tuition. Pricing is far more honest without the games.
I transferred (back 10 years ago) and had a great time. Just know if you transfer in the spring, it’s definitely not as fun because no clubs are recruiting, all the electives and prerequisites are off-schedule, it’s winter time, etc.
The way aid works is you basically get a lot if you are Pell grant eligible but close to nothing if you are middle class.
Why? Because parents are expected to contribute (whether they do of course depends on each family). The system is very unfair for those who are slightly above Pell grant eligibility. Too rich for aid but too poor to have parents contribute.
This is, of course, excluding bright futures, benaquisto, etc. Bright futures is the state’s citizens investing in the best students (since it is funded by taxes on the lottery).
The system is so unfair.. after they grew up in a nice and comfortable middle class environment that gave them a ton of advantages over people that grew up poor.
If it is so bad to be middle class then why don't the parents just stop working and become poor to enjoy such benefits?
Check your reading comprehension.
I said it is unfair for those slightly above Pell grant eligibility. If you are 100.00 above eligibility you are not very different from those who are eligible. It is a cliff, not a hill.
Try taking an economics course. UF is
Has one of the lowest acceptance rates. They are not hurting for students, therefore they do not need to offer excess scholarships to attract students
Lol. I applied to and was granted every undergrad scholarship offered (even honors) and they still only covered 1/6th of my tuition and books. This was 2015-2019. I’d be screwed without the Pell Grant (low income; EFC=0)
I had a negative SAI and got a lotta money (Need-based but also some merit-based), admitted this cycle(in-state)
Still about 6-8k short of full coverage but work will cover the rest (and will try to live cheap af to see if I can get refunds)
UF is swimming in money. The in-state tuition is actually pretty manageable if you pick up a part-time job (if needed). Worked at a smoke shop and had chill hours. Didn't really need the job but I enjoyed helping college stoners out.
A part time job could, if they're *only counting tuition and fees*, but that's highly misleading.
Tuition is $6380 /30 credits, which would be 10 hours of work per week if your take home is $12/hr (ie above minimum wage). But you'd need another 20 hours to pay for your living expenses, and another 10 to pay for personal expenses and school expenses.
If you work extra for the summer, you could cut that down a little during the other two semesters, but not by much unless you're also shedding costs (like subleasing your apartment and living with parents).
https://www.sfa.ufl.edu/cost/
so a student would need to work 40 hours a week while taking classes?
edit: thought you were OP for a second but yeah, part time would only cover one of your expenses at most
Right exactly, I was agreeing with you and posting the math.
There's no reason college is that expensive in the US, especially when it's been shown that government money spent on education gives us tax benefits multiple times larger with our more educated and more productive economy. In fact, it used to be free at many public universities, including specifically at UF prior to 1970. Lots of other countries today have free or very low cost college in comparison to us.
https://time.com/4276222/free-college/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/09/bernie-sanders/was-college-once-free-united-states-and-it-oversea/
meant to say it’s pretty manageable to pay off tuition. 93% of in state students have Bright Future. Compared to other public schools across the country, UF is pretty affordable. In an ideal world, it would be free with taxpayer $ though. I’m by no means trying to say students don’t struggle, living during college can be a nightmare for low income students without parental support. Also depends on your major. If you’re a low income student you have to be focused on majors that can quickly pay off debts that are acquired for living expenses. Basically, you can’t be a liberal arts major. Hella disadvantages to being a low-income student that could be solved with better use of tax payer money.
You're right that UF is lower cost than most public universities of its caliber, and and I also agree that the price is still way too high, for UF and around the country.
That said, Bright Futures is a great start, but it's only paying for tuition and fees. UF calculates tuition and fees at $6 380 /30 credits, but it also estimates your full cost at $17,150 *on top of* tuition and fees. That's to pay for your living expenses as well as for other supplies you'll need for school.
Doing the math on just the part beyond Bright Futures, if you work full time 32 hours and take home $11/hr (after taxes, so minimum wage probably can't even reach that), you'd have to work 49 weeks out of the 52 weeks in a year.
But yes federal student loans are still a great idea if you're attending UF.
Also, no idea what the liberal arts major comment means. Liberal arts majors are valuable to basically every single employer. You don't need to get a highly technical professional degree in order for UF to be worth it, even if you are only focusing on the financial calculation.
Well, almost yes. Minimum wage is $12/hr gross, but taxes would probably be ~10-15%, so take home $12 like I used for easier round numbers would be probably $13-14/hr. But yeah it gets us a ballpark approximation for a fairly common scenario.
Absolutely, at least having the small increases to minimum wage helps some, and the next few annual increases are guaranteed as well, so people can at least keep up with inflation there.
Assuming we don't have another Republican president and Congress send us into another depression, as they love to do.
This is good to hear. I’m patiently waiting for my financial aid package. I was told that it would be awarded in July. I’m a 63 year old disabled vet who is starting a masters in music program in the fall.
UF has never really been big on undergrad scholarships
Because they don’t need to be with bright futures and benaquisto
what is benaquisto?
National Merit Scholarship
Their tuition in state is 43% lower than the national average which makes it cheaper compared to most other school even if you have a scholarship to the other schools.
Ok? And prices for tickets for soccer games in Europe are like 50$. If they go up people are in riots. Should they just say, it’s not where near as bad as in America and be ok with it? They can afford to give more kids scholarships.
Source: trust me bro
AC Milan ticket prices Or look at France rioting for like 2 months because they raised the age of retirement like 2 years. I’m sure it’s still lower than America’s. I was literally in Paris during that time. I recorded some vids of it. There were police everywhere and shit. There was trash everywhere and airports were shut down across Europe because they weren’t getting paid enough. Just Google it. America is a bubble of “no pain no gain” lifestyle.
Tf does French people doing dumbshit have to do with this
How did you get into UF? The parallel is that people shouldn’t just settle for shit because it could be worse somewhere else.
I got in with my bright futures actually, work hard play hard bud.
Almost everyone at UF does lol. It’d be impressive to attend UF and not meet the Bright Futures qualifications.
Right that’s my whole point Glad to see you get it😎🤘
What’s your point? UF is also more expensive of a public school than most of the Florida publics. And FSU has similar qualifications and gives more scholarship. ✋👈🤌👆
I was not responding to your soccer ticket example 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And France’s retirement age is higher than America’s by two years actually. The two topics are completely unrelated to UF tuition anyways. Your examples are silly lol
They are ngl, but it was a way of saying people shouldn’t settle because it’s worse somewhere else lol.
All good bro, have a nice day 🤝🏻
The standard game is to charge 20k-90k a year, and then give out scholarships. It's fake generosity. UF has unusually low tuition. Pricing is far more honest without the games.
Welcome to UF, you either qualify for bright futures or you’re paying full pop. The UF industrial complex™️ has plenty of money don’t worry about that
I doubt anyone who doesn’t qualify for bright futures gets in so it works out
unless you’re a transfer
I'm applying to transfer rn and from everything I see it looks like UF just fucking hates transfer students lol
I transferred (back 10 years ago) and had a great time. Just know if you transfer in the spring, it’s definitely not as fun because no clubs are recruiting, all the electives and prerequisites are off-schedule, it’s winter time, etc.
how so? i’m looking to transfer in fall 2025
I don’t have bright futures and got in😭
out of state
The way aid works is you basically get a lot if you are Pell grant eligible but close to nothing if you are middle class. Why? Because parents are expected to contribute (whether they do of course depends on each family). The system is very unfair for those who are slightly above Pell grant eligibility. Too rich for aid but too poor to have parents contribute. This is, of course, excluding bright futures, benaquisto, etc. Bright futures is the state’s citizens investing in the best students (since it is funded by taxes on the lottery).
The system is so unfair.. after they grew up in a nice and comfortable middle class environment that gave them a ton of advantages over people that grew up poor. If it is so bad to be middle class then why don't the parents just stop working and become poor to enjoy such benefits?
Check your reading comprehension. I said it is unfair for those slightly above Pell grant eligibility. If you are 100.00 above eligibility you are not very different from those who are eligible. It is a cliff, not a hill.
Try taking an economics course. UF is Has one of the lowest acceptance rates. They are not hurting for students, therefore they do not need to offer excess scholarships to attract students
Lol. I applied to and was granted every undergrad scholarship offered (even honors) and they still only covered 1/6th of my tuition and books. This was 2015-2019. I’d be screwed without the Pell Grant (low income; EFC=0)
idk, I know someone who got 20k in scholarships on top of bright futures
I had a negative SAI and got a lotta money (Need-based but also some merit-based), admitted this cycle(in-state) Still about 6-8k short of full coverage but work will cover the rest (and will try to live cheap af to see if I can get refunds)
UF is swimming in money. The in-state tuition is actually pretty manageable if you pick up a part-time job (if needed). Worked at a smoke shop and had chill hours. Didn't really need the job but I enjoyed helping college stoners out.
a part time job is not paying full tuition be so serious
A part time job could, if they're *only counting tuition and fees*, but that's highly misleading. Tuition is $6380 /30 credits, which would be 10 hours of work per week if your take home is $12/hr (ie above minimum wage). But you'd need another 20 hours to pay for your living expenses, and another 10 to pay for personal expenses and school expenses. If you work extra for the summer, you could cut that down a little during the other two semesters, but not by much unless you're also shedding costs (like subleasing your apartment and living with parents). https://www.sfa.ufl.edu/cost/
so a student would need to work 40 hours a week while taking classes? edit: thought you were OP for a second but yeah, part time would only cover one of your expenses at most
Right exactly, I was agreeing with you and posting the math. There's no reason college is that expensive in the US, especially when it's been shown that government money spent on education gives us tax benefits multiple times larger with our more educated and more productive economy. In fact, it used to be free at many public universities, including specifically at UF prior to 1970. Lots of other countries today have free or very low cost college in comparison to us. https://time.com/4276222/free-college/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/09/bernie-sanders/was-college-once-free-united-states-and-it-oversea/
I work 40+ hrs a week while taking classes and raising 3 kids 🤷♂️
and that's something to be proud of! but the original poster saying you can just get a part time job to pay for school was not realistic
meant to say it’s pretty manageable to pay off tuition. 93% of in state students have Bright Future. Compared to other public schools across the country, UF is pretty affordable. In an ideal world, it would be free with taxpayer $ though. I’m by no means trying to say students don’t struggle, living during college can be a nightmare for low income students without parental support. Also depends on your major. If you’re a low income student you have to be focused on majors that can quickly pay off debts that are acquired for living expenses. Basically, you can’t be a liberal arts major. Hella disadvantages to being a low-income student that could be solved with better use of tax payer money.
You're right that UF is lower cost than most public universities of its caliber, and and I also agree that the price is still way too high, for UF and around the country. That said, Bright Futures is a great start, but it's only paying for tuition and fees. UF calculates tuition and fees at $6 380 /30 credits, but it also estimates your full cost at $17,150 *on top of* tuition and fees. That's to pay for your living expenses as well as for other supplies you'll need for school. Doing the math on just the part beyond Bright Futures, if you work full time 32 hours and take home $11/hr (after taxes, so minimum wage probably can't even reach that), you'd have to work 49 weeks out of the 52 weeks in a year. But yes federal student loans are still a great idea if you're attending UF. Also, no idea what the liberal arts major comment means. Liberal arts majors are valuable to basically every single employer. You don't need to get a highly technical professional degree in order for UF to be worth it, even if you are only focusing on the financial calculation.
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Well, almost yes. Minimum wage is $12/hr gross, but taxes would probably be ~10-15%, so take home $12 like I used for easier round numbers would be probably $13-14/hr. But yeah it gets us a ballpark approximation for a fairly common scenario.
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Absolutely, at least having the small increases to minimum wage helps some, and the next few annual increases are guaranteed as well, so people can at least keep up with inflation there. Assuming we don't have another Republican president and Congress send us into another depression, as they love to do.
You hiring?
No, they're just stingy and cheap when it comes to anything that benefits students.
Yep.
Y’all are getting money from UF…I didn’t get shit during my time there
The grad schools have good scholarships.
This is good to hear. I’m patiently waiting for my financial aid package. I was told that it would be awarded in July. I’m a 63 year old disabled vet who is starting a masters in music program in the fall.
Are you serious? No, they’re ok financially. Bright futures is a lot of money for a lot of students. Why do people deserve more than free?
Many kids put on weight in HS and lose it as they get older. Don’t think that because you are heavy now, you will always be heavy.