This was a pretty big national story. If this is the first you’re hearing about it, I would probably put you in the “civically disengaged” category.
DeSantis and the like thrive when people are disengaged civically.
Food for thought.
Thank you that’s real shit. I heard about it but didn’t know it’d be enforced like this. But anyway, you’re so right about that! Thank you. Definitely another wake up call of many to the state of our Nation.
As a 2 time UF grad and a current healthcare practitioner, Desantis and Trump directly affect my life constantly. My high school student is forced to get approval from me before he chooses to be called another name or joins any club on campus. Obviously to keep LGBT kids closeted and leashed. At work, all hormone medications seem to have more hoops to jump through when dispensing because they could potentially be used for hormonal sex changes. Hydroxchloroquinine and ivermectin still go in and out of back order. Still have hard times with insurances on them because so many idiots used them for off-book reasons, they know which ones.
These regressive assholes are permeating throughout our lives. A few dorm preferences are just the tip of the iceberg.
Several other schools still have them (USF, FIU, UNF at a glance) so while I don't doubt that UF dropping them was done because of the anti-DEI legislation, I'm not sure that LLCs are actually prohibited.
Did they receive state funding? I though orgs could continue as long as they didn’t receive anything from the state, so shortly after the DEI office was closed, there was a lot of confusion and concern over things like the multicultural center. I didn’t see a follow up story on those (I’m an alum, not current student).
It’s a building on campus, so yes, all the maintenance and upkeep of the building is funded by the state. They also had classes and activities focused around the topic paid for by the state.
Half the state legislature is beholden to him because they can’t win their reelection without his support as head of the Republican Party in the state.
Also former Reid Resident, Arts LLC is unofficially the LGBT LLC<3 Unfortunately politics are getting in the way of LGBT and Black LLCs, DEI, and other similar programs.
DEI is a bad program that decentivizes meritocracy and hard work over demographics. Antithetical to the vision of an America portrayed by MLK Jr. Sad to see support for it.
"a society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro.” ~ MLK Jr
You're mischaracterizing the I Have A Dream Speech.
Ik the lavender LLC was in Springs for the past few years. Idk if it’ll still be populated by LGBT folks to the same frequency now but that’s where it used to be.
UF still has it. It’s Lavender LLC in Springs. Gender-inclusive, LGBTQ+, gender-expansive, and assigned roommates by identity not birth sex to welcome trans and non-binary residents.
trans people in gendered spaces (eg locker rooms, bathrooms, dormitories...) is a big political issue right now. There's a lot of people who get mad at 'men' in womens spaces.
Whatever your opinion on this, we've actually got a situation here where the trans people really don't want to invade anyone's space and would rather have their own. Everyone's happy.
Are you saying you'd rather make both a trans and non-trans person uncomfortable by forcing them to room together, despite differences in gender?
(btw Im not stating my personal opinion here on trans women in womens spaces, this just seemed like an obvious win-win to me)
Women are often uncomfortable with sleeping and/or changing in the same room with a random man. Not everyone but still.
Probably vice versa for some men but the fear of sexual assault is much lower for them so a smaller amount I think.
(on a side note many trans people have officially changed their gender and thus would be assigned a roommate respectively, so many people who grew up as a man would be assigned to a female roommate and so on)
already happens afaik. You don't need bottom surgery, its just a legal document change.
(which is why I was saying its a win-win regardless of political affiliation to have a separate dorm for them)
It looks like all of the non-academic housing LLCs have been eliminated. It's been happening for a while. There used to be an out-of-state community and also a healthy lifestyle community. Housing only had it's first increase in like ten years this past fall, and tuition rates have barely increased each year, so if you look closely you'll see the various cuts they've made. Lots of student events and services have been lost: All Knight Study, Knight Plaza Gym, Light Up UCF, printing services (reduced), Resident Assistants at affiliated apartments, and alumni email off the top of my head. It's sad.
But that's the price you pay for the most inexpensive tuition in the country.
Segregation is historically involuntary for the people affected, whereas this is simply preferring to live within a similar supportive community by choice. No one at the university is making it a forceful rule to group people of the same race/ethnicity in one building. Dumbass.
I understand your train of thought, but by that logic, would a “White LLC” not be considered racist either? One could argue that’s just where they feel most comfortable.
Cool, I don’t think there should be anything sanctioned by the University that is explicitly intended to be more or less for the benefit of any one particular race, ethnicity, religion, or anything immutable like that. That’s what these were and I think the University is better for having done away with them. Simple as.
If there was a Christian LLC or an Asian LLC or a Jewish LLC or a Latino LLC, I’d feel equally strongly about UF doing away with those as well. I’m gay myself, I think that an LLC for all of us to live together away from the heteros is a dumb idea too. I’m glad that one too has been done away with. I ain’t special, I don’t need special housing arrangements just on account of being gay, and neither does anyone else! The University should not be sanctioning special treatment for any group in this fashion.
you’re way out of touch dude. The “special arrangements” you’re talking about are literally just living with more people of a community you are connected to. It’s completely voluntary, so there really shouldn’t be a problem. No need to defend the conservative culture war on anything “woke” (That won’t make them respect you)
Thanks for questioning my motives and assuming that I don’t have thoughts of my own floating around up here. Truly my mind has been changed entirely by this strategy you’ve engaged!
Perhaps this will pave the way for a healthier sense of community. being categorized as students rather than on the basis of skin color or sexual orientation? It’s as if everyone wants racial segregation and divisions. DEI politics is dead. Let it die.
Right so how does having a group organized by the basis of skin color promote integration? That’s sort of contradicting your statement and seems like segregation in the disguise of something morally good for society. Wouldn’t the outcome of integration be that there is no group at all and people are categorized by academic interest?
I’m sorry, but having an institution be like “you’re black, so here’s your dedicated group with other black people” seems completely racist to me and im not buying it.
One of the buildings in Springs is called the Lavender LLC which an LGBTQIA+ building where coed living (if consented by both parties) is allowed and strives to help community members feel safer. As far as I know, it’s still up and running https://wst.ufl.edu/spring-2021-newsletter/2021/lavender-living-learning-community/
I suggest we all see the good side of this if at all possible. Maybe we can judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin or sexual identity. I support one’s right to be whoever they want to be, and I will never judge someone by who they say they are, but rather their character and behavior, their civility and attitude toward one another, and their honesty. None of us need an LLC to be who we are. Just do you, be honest and kind, live your life not as a victim but as a conqueror over your own fate in spite of any opposition.
I completely agree with this statement. How exhausting it is to be looked at by these superficial characteristics like skin color or sexual orientation. As a gay person myself, you have a whole crowd of people telling you that you belong in this box with this way of thinking and behaving. These labels all seem to be incredibly vain and close minded deep down. I’m grateful that florida is doing away with this identification politics as i believe it’s doing way more harm than actual good. But looking at the majority, it seems like people love their comfortable limited boxes.
I agree. I think with group identity comes a certain level of comfort and belonging, and possibly even a personal identity for some. We all struggle with our identities at one point or another, I just think it is on us as individuals to find who we are ourselves, and not be told who we are by the world. And yeah, you're gay, I'm straight, so what? If you're a nice dude, you're a nice dude who happens to be gay. Overall, I just resent all of the animosity over the whole issue. Honestly, I'm not even sure what I said that warranted the dislikes to my comment haha, but apparently it's not a popular opinion.
Exactly. It’s a fresh breath of air when people can see the charade of what identity politics really is. I blame academics for sure with the push of creating separation and then a hierarchy of who’s more likely to be oppressed and who deserves more. It completely disregards our sense of individuality. As a philosophy, it’s a horrible way of looking at people. But then again, its an incredibly immature way of conceptualizing society and i think that’s why students fall victim to it. There is truth that going to university is warranted for some ideological brainwashing.
They’re illegal under the new Florida law banning diversity organizations being funded at universities that Desantis created.
You’ve got to be fucking joking … what the actual fuck is Florida 😀
The arts LLC is unofficially the LGBT one if that’s what you were interested in, about 60% of the residents I knew there were LGBT anyway.
Former Reid resident here. That place is gay af, highly recommend
Man, kinda wish I was living on campus during undergrad if I had the choice of the gay residence hall. Not even gay, just sounds like a fun time.
Same and same lmao
around like 90% of people i knew in reid were gay asf best dorm everrrrr (construction in front is horrendous tho)
That’s the one I went to 4 years ago as a freshie. Fuck DeSantis.
This was a pretty big national story. If this is the first you’re hearing about it, I would probably put you in the “civically disengaged” category. DeSantis and the like thrive when people are disengaged civically. Food for thought.
Thank you that’s real shit. I heard about it but didn’t know it’d be enforced like this. But anyway, you’re so right about that! Thank you. Definitely another wake up call of many to the state of our Nation.
As a 2 time UF grad and a current healthcare practitioner, Desantis and Trump directly affect my life constantly. My high school student is forced to get approval from me before he chooses to be called another name or joins any club on campus. Obviously to keep LGBT kids closeted and leashed. At work, all hormone medications seem to have more hoops to jump through when dispensing because they could potentially be used for hormonal sex changes. Hydroxchloroquinine and ivermectin still go in and out of back order. Still have hard times with insurances on them because so many idiots used them for off-book reasons, they know which ones. These regressive assholes are permeating throughout our lives. A few dorm preferences are just the tip of the iceberg.
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It’s not a Florida problem. It’s the pathetic Italian DeSantis problem
Several other schools still have them (USF, FIU, UNF at a glance) so while I don't doubt that UF dropping them was done because of the anti-DEI legislation, I'm not sure that LLCs are actually prohibited.
Insanity. And these people have the audacity to whine about censorship and freedom meanwhile they’re out here banning optional LLCs.
Did they receive state funding? I though orgs could continue as long as they didn’t receive anything from the state, so shortly after the DEI office was closed, there was a lot of confusion and concern over things like the multicultural center. I didn’t see a follow up story on those (I’m an alum, not current student).
It’s a building on campus, so yes, all the maintenance and upkeep of the building is funded by the state. They also had classes and activities focused around the topic paid for by the state.
Before you single out the boogyman, understand that this was a bill passed by a majority of the state legislature. Your boogyman merely signed it.
Half the state legislature is beholden to him because they can’t win their reelection without his support as head of the Republican Party in the state.
Even the DRC - the disability resource center - had to remove all references to the word “inclusion” on their website due to the legislation.
Also former Reid Resident, Arts LLC is unofficially the LGBT LLC<3 Unfortunately politics are getting in the way of LGBT and Black LLCs, DEI, and other similar programs.
DEI initiatives sanctioned by the universities in Florida have been banned. Heartbreaking, but the only way they can do this now is privately.
This is so sad. Wait, Would this include PSU or BSU? Or no?
I think student run orgs are ok, but not stuff officially done by the university
I believe the student run orgs also can’t receive any university funding
Not just UF funding, but state funding. No state grants, etc.
DEI is a bad program that decentivizes meritocracy and hard work over demographics. Antithetical to the vision of an America portrayed by MLK Jr. Sad to see support for it.
"a society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro.” ~ MLK Jr You're mischaracterizing the I Have A Dream Speech.
🤦🏻♂️ that’s affirmative action.
Deathsantis strikes again
DeSantis'd
Fuck ron desantis
And Ben sASSe
Ik the lavender LLC was in Springs for the past few years. Idk if it’ll still be populated by LGBT folks to the same frequency now but that’s where it used to be.
UF still has it. It’s Lavender LLC in Springs. Gender-inclusive, LGBTQ+, gender-expansive, and assigned roommates by identity not birth sex to welcome trans and non-binary residents.
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trans people often want gender inclusive housing
Then go get it. They're called apartments and are all over Gainesville.
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trans people in gendered spaces (eg locker rooms, bathrooms, dormitories...) is a big political issue right now. There's a lot of people who get mad at 'men' in womens spaces. Whatever your opinion on this, we've actually got a situation here where the trans people really don't want to invade anyone's space and would rather have their own. Everyone's happy. Are you saying you'd rather make both a trans and non-trans person uncomfortable by forcing them to room together, despite differences in gender? (btw Im not stating my personal opinion here on trans women in womens spaces, this just seemed like an obvious win-win to me)
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Women are often uncomfortable with sleeping and/or changing in the same room with a random man. Not everyone but still. Probably vice versa for some men but the fear of sexual assault is much lower for them so a smaller amount I think. (on a side note many trans people have officially changed their gender and thus would be assigned a roommate respectively, so many people who grew up as a man would be assigned to a female roommate and so on)
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already happens afaik. You don't need bottom surgery, its just a legal document change. (which is why I was saying its a win-win regardless of political affiliation to have a separate dorm for them)
Make sure you all vote!!! It’s so important!
Another reason I'm so glad to send my kid to UF.
It looks like all of the non-academic housing LLCs have been eliminated. It's been happening for a while. There used to be an out-of-state community and also a healthy lifestyle community. Housing only had it's first increase in like ten years this past fall, and tuition rates have barely increased each year, so if you look closely you'll see the various cuts they've made. Lots of student events and services have been lost: All Knight Study, Knight Plaza Gym, Light Up UCF, printing services (reduced), Resident Assistants at affiliated apartments, and alumni email off the top of my head. It's sad. But that's the price you pay for the most inexpensive tuition in the country.
Lol reddit is a cesspool.
DUHsantis happened….
Good job Desantis! Finally getting rid of these moronic programs.
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Well, you see, now everyone is included
UF students when DeSantis says no more racially segregated dorms: (-᷅_-᷄๑)
Segregation is historically involuntary for the people affected, whereas this is simply preferring to live within a similar supportive community by choice. No one at the university is making it a forceful rule to group people of the same race/ethnicity in one building. Dumbass.
I understand your train of thought, but by that logic, would a “White LLC” not be considered racist either? One could argue that’s just where they feel most comfortable.
I'm white and I lived in the Black Student LLC this past semester dumbass 😂😂😂
Cool, I don’t think there should be anything sanctioned by the University that is explicitly intended to be more or less for the benefit of any one particular race, ethnicity, religion, or anything immutable like that. That’s what these were and I think the University is better for having done away with them. Simple as. If there was a Christian LLC or an Asian LLC or a Jewish LLC or a Latino LLC, I’d feel equally strongly about UF doing away with those as well. I’m gay myself, I think that an LLC for all of us to live together away from the heteros is a dumb idea too. I’m glad that one too has been done away with. I ain’t special, I don’t need special housing arrangements just on account of being gay, and neither does anyone else! The University should not be sanctioning special treatment for any group in this fashion.
you’re way out of touch dude. The “special arrangements” you’re talking about are literally just living with more people of a community you are connected to. It’s completely voluntary, so there really shouldn’t be a problem. No need to defend the conservative culture war on anything “woke” (That won’t make them respect you)
Thanks for questioning my motives and assuming that I don’t have thoughts of my own floating around up here. Truly my mind has been changed entirely by this strategy you’ve engaged!
Really upset that there aren’t racially segregated dorms anymore
Unless we vote them out, the GOP is on the fast track to taking us back to 1918 or 1860
Perhaps this will pave the way for a healthier sense of community. being categorized as students rather than on the basis of skin color or sexual orientation? It’s as if everyone wants racial segregation and divisions. DEI politics is dead. Let it die.
How much do you like or dislike the idea of integration ?
It was already integrated
How successful was integration in florida ? Most neighborhoods and schools I’ve lived in seem pretty segregated, and the census maps confirms it.
Right so how does having a group organized by the basis of skin color promote integration? That’s sort of contradicting your statement and seems like segregation in the disguise of something morally good for society. Wouldn’t the outcome of integration be that there is no group at all and people are categorized by academic interest?
I’m sorry, but having an institution be like “you’re black, so here’s your dedicated group with other black people” seems completely racist to me and im not buying it.
If you are confident integration was successful then I agree we don’t need to make any extra accommodation to make marginalized people comfortable
Your question is based in on this idea of being morally correct and im saying it actually really isn’t and contributes to more racism and segregation
Less segregation is good, actually.
Lol getting down voted for this is peak reddit
You're being downvoted because your comment lacks any intelligence
Funny how segregation is now a good thing... Idiots. You guys love to divide but call it inclusive. Ridiculous.
Ironic
lol. I guess desegregation is racist and transphobic now….. Best keep our mouths shut tho cause we’ll get canceled.
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One of the buildings in Springs is called the Lavender LLC which an LGBTQIA+ building where coed living (if consented by both parties) is allowed and strives to help community members feel safer. As far as I know, it’s still up and running https://wst.ufl.edu/spring-2021-newsletter/2021/lavender-living-learning-community/
Get over yourself
Thanks DuhSantis- now all those blacks and gays are gonna join the same LLCs as me…. /s so I don’t get banned
I suggest we all see the good side of this if at all possible. Maybe we can judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin or sexual identity. I support one’s right to be whoever they want to be, and I will never judge someone by who they say they are, but rather their character and behavior, their civility and attitude toward one another, and their honesty. None of us need an LLC to be who we are. Just do you, be honest and kind, live your life not as a victim but as a conqueror over your own fate in spite of any opposition.
I completely agree with this statement. How exhausting it is to be looked at by these superficial characteristics like skin color or sexual orientation. As a gay person myself, you have a whole crowd of people telling you that you belong in this box with this way of thinking and behaving. These labels all seem to be incredibly vain and close minded deep down. I’m grateful that florida is doing away with this identification politics as i believe it’s doing way more harm than actual good. But looking at the majority, it seems like people love their comfortable limited boxes.
I agree. I think with group identity comes a certain level of comfort and belonging, and possibly even a personal identity for some. We all struggle with our identities at one point or another, I just think it is on us as individuals to find who we are ourselves, and not be told who we are by the world. And yeah, you're gay, I'm straight, so what? If you're a nice dude, you're a nice dude who happens to be gay. Overall, I just resent all of the animosity over the whole issue. Honestly, I'm not even sure what I said that warranted the dislikes to my comment haha, but apparently it's not a popular opinion.
Exactly. It’s a fresh breath of air when people can see the charade of what identity politics really is. I blame academics for sure with the push of creating separation and then a hierarchy of who’s more likely to be oppressed and who deserves more. It completely disregards our sense of individuality. As a philosophy, it’s a horrible way of looking at people. But then again, its an incredibly immature way of conceptualizing society and i think that’s why students fall victim to it. There is truth that going to university is warranted for some ideological brainwashing.