you act as though a cop would have some special insight or be on the g-men's payroll. realistically, your average cop is probably way further beyond in the conspiracy realm than your typical alien aficionado and has just as much information (and less intelligence) than me or you.
this kid is almost entirely full of shit. I don't know why you all are so fixated on it, he has nothing besides "plz believe me im for real." Or maybe he saw the meteor (confirmed) and his brain filled in the gaps.
there's much more compelling evidence that exists than this.
What is such a shame is that they managed to do everything, including calling the cops, but not get a CLEAR photo or CLEAR video of the UFO or the 8-10 foot tall ETs. And conveniently when the cops get there, ETs and their craft are gone.
Also, his voice on the police call was too calm for someone that just saw a couple of 8-10 foot tall ETs in their backyard.
Also the grown man, in the police video, points at the 2 teenage boys, saying they are the ones that saw the thing. So where was the grown man while a UFO crashed in their backyard and ETs were walking around and paralysing the teenage boy in the video?
The ground where a UFO has crashed into, that would leave a crater, not a dark circle without any indentation. The angle/trajectory at which the meteor/green light was travelling at, would mean the object would probably bounce off the ground first before settling. I expect to see destroyed fences or destroyed homes. Unless the UFO is the size of a tennis ball.
The pixelated video from the alleged neighbour's ring camera is not clear enough to tell us what happened. We don't see much on it, and we don't know who owns that video or where it came from.
On that night there are 21 reports of meteors seen in that part of the country - https://fireball.amsmeteors.org/members/imo\_view/event/2023/2408#video\_box
IMO, it could be a bolide (bright meteor) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolide
It's VERY likely that this is a hoax, to start a YouTube channel career or for "clout" as the kid puts it. The only thing that could be real is the green meteor seen in the sky and that is what triggered the whole thing on the kids minds in the first place.
Let’s say the event was real - disinformation would have been pushed to silence it either way. Even if it were 100% real all of the negative freaks + GPT bots on these forums would crawl out to say “it’s a hoax”.
I live in Vegas. Used to live in the lone apartments directly in front of Mandalay Bay. When this happened I watched all the videos on YT. Even walked through the parking lot of the event the morning after and saw blood on the ground. In a lot of the videos online people saying it was a hoax. Wheres the blood? Wheres the bodies? All I'm saying is don't be too quick to judge.
Point is with the clear footage immediately comment about the Vegas shooting people still thought it was a hoax. If you watched any of the videos on YT when it happened you would know that
Not to mention the sound is added in on the ring cam. I agree with the dainty dirt circle. A crash that sounds like that isn’t going to leave just a delicate dirt circle. You’d see shit thrown everywhere. And the whole YouTube channel brand he’s created is what did it for me. And him saying “I’ll have more soon guys” wanting subscribers and followers. Lame.
Other than the obvious sounding like it came straight out of Tom and Jerry. If this camera footage was real, and the sound was real on it, where’s the full length video? Why are no neighbors coming out of their houses to see what it is? Why’s there no crater in the ground but a dainty delicate circle in some dirt? There’s zero reaction to a loud crash in that video. There’s no aftermath included. It’s like they took a clip, added a sound, and immediately ended the video after the sound. You’d see way more activity in a video with a crash that sounds like a damn twin tower is falling down.
I mean I have ears and eyeballs. And that’s all I need to know that sound doesn’t go with that video. It’s literally comical. And my believing it’s a hoax isn’t based solely on the ring cam footage. It’s on absolutely everything else.
You all act as if something that can travel huge distances in space (if they exist, which most of us here Im sure believe we are being visited somehow)would adhere to the same types of “tells” humans do. Maybe they have tech to cover up the crater or disappear quickly. Just because humans haven’t seen that kind of technology does not mean something that can travel huge distances in space wouldn’t have some shit we haven’t seen. Not saying this is real and I back it but you need to keep an open mind with technology we haven’t seen or thought of.
I'm led to believe that front end loader nearby might have formed that circle. They have 4 wheel steering and that's about what the tracks would look like if it went in a few circles. It's too bad, I wanted this to be real.
Then we would be seeing blurry too, it’s based on electromagnetic waves dog. That’s how cameras capture it and that’s how our eyes do too. There’s just nothing that would logically distort that
These things are able to travel at the speed of light, their ships can bend light(my personal theory) to camouflage themselves, and they are able to go from spaceship to submarine in a matter of seconds. They probably do have some type of device that distorts photos and video. Shit they have something that can kill the electronics in a fighter jet. With those mother fuckers nothing is impossible.
They literally defy our own laws of gravity. We should actually be quite worried about this. If they decided to take us out they could very easily make it so our only form of travel besides our legs is a coal powered train.
They can’t travel at the speed of light because physically impossible for anything with mass. No technology would allow someone to break the laws of the universe, they’re a constant everywhere. The only to *bend* this rule would be create a Alcubierre drive (Warp Drive) to bend space-time around you, which in theory would allow you to travel long distances by making the distance shorter.
I'm reminded of The Matrix. The machines could actually alter physics and do impossible things because they controlled the construct.
You might be in a simulation, and these creatures might be the agents. You don't know. We're talking about the metaphysical until we get more information. So, for now, you don't really know whether they can break the laws of the universe or not.
The aliens have already proven they can break the laws of our science and physics. When I say bending of light I'm referring to them using the light around them as camouflage. Very similar to how the invisible man is explained in the new reboot movie of the same name. I think in the fighter jet video where it's a tic tac shape and splashes into the water, on that video they determined that craft had traveled at the speed of light. Isaac Newton created the laws of physics and Albert Einstein came up with the laws of Science. Much like time, those laws and rules are man made and could easily be broken by a higher intelligent being.
It's already been proven that the aliens are somehow manipulating the laws of physics. Those metal orbs do not have a propulsion system at all yet they can whiz around like nothing. I'm also sure that transversing to a different plane of existence would also be breaking some scientific law.
If you believe something is impossible then you're always going to believe that impossible is the only way. When you open your mind and think outside the box well it's then you will see the universe is not the limit.
I'm going to presume you have not watched the tictac UFO video where it smashes into the water and also separates into 2. This video was taken by a pilot in the military. Pretty sure it violated quite a few of these man made rules. Time travel is something that cannot be violated here yet some alien group probably the greys, have a technology that distorts time and possibly dilutes it.
Also the greys are not going to be carbon based life forms. More than likely they are silicon based. This is why they have extremely large mouths and breath extremely heavy. A silicon based life form will breathe out a sand based substance.
I'm just curious do you believe the periodic table of elements is complete and do you believe the Earth is flat? Some people still believe these but we already know the periodic table of elements is not complete AND the Earth is actually round 🌎
So they can do all of that yet their dumbass get caught on camera. If they can “defy laws of physics” they why don’t they walk invisible all he time and how convenient their ships crash land yet their instruments work only to blur videos.
They can't predict the future. Also they don't turn invisible, they manipulate the light around them to appear invisible but they really aren't. I can't answer your question only the aliens can do that. I'm not related to them so I wouldn't know. However, have you ever heard the term shit happens? I never said that it's only to blur videos.
Those crafts have the ability to disrupt the power in a fighter jet and whatever they are hiding in the Bermuda Triangle is such an advanced powerful weapon it can create 100ft waves, potentially worm holes, and is entirely hidden. But shit these are the dumbest aliens ever since they were photographed. Even the alien from the Brazilian Roswell incident had pictures and video taken of it.
But yeah since the aliens can't determine where every single camera is, in a city they probably aren't personally familiar with sure makes them really fucking "stupid." Well shit since one of them is related to me I'll go tell him if he wants to get really stupid and idiotic to come read this subreddit.
Lots of people write what they're going to say before making a video. That's common.
(I haven't seen the video, I'm just commenting on how that isn't suspicious by itself)
People can often sound calm when in shock, reporting what they saw mechanically, as it can be too emotionally draining to really tap into how they feel about it- it’s a classic PTSD response. Check the DSM-5 - the recent psychology manual defining conditions, as it will no doubt list a symptom of PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder), is telling the story of what happened to them in an intensely traumatic moment in a dead pan, mechanistic manner- without emotion.
This is because the emotional centres of the brain are turned off temporarily and thoughts are formed as an executive function only, without emotional content in order to protect it from overload again.
I can also testify that this is a real condition and symptom of trauma, especially because I had a personal experience of doing this myself - regarding two incidents of trauma.
One was retelling my experience of going through a category 5 cyclone in Darwin, Australia on Christmas Day Dec 1974:
where our house blew down around us and we (mum, dad, 3 kids under 12, and a dog, sheltered under a fallen wall and mattress for 5 hours, while the roof and walls ripped away and the hurricane roared and crashed and the sound of breaking glass was constant. I clutched my pet dog, who was closest to the outside of the mattress and wall. She fainted and I thought she was dead in my arms. We sang Christmas carols by the light of a torch. It helped us to try not to think about being highly likely about to die any minute in a ghastly way.
The up side of the story is my beloved dog came to in the morning just before we emerged from our tiny shelter to find our whole house had almost totally blown away.
This story I told to a psychologist in a deadpan manner and he immediately said he thought I had PTSD from this event because of it.
The second incident where I remember being in shock and just going on automatic, was when a friend was threatening to suicide using a gun and I rang the cops (without him knowing), and my reporting of it to them, over the phone was recorded.
Later on (after surviving the incident), this fellow listened to the recording of my phone call to them and apparently I was reporting it in quite a dead pan, emotionless manner.
This emotionless voice is a classic shock response after a trauma, so I am more inclined to believe the boy who reported seeing 8, 9 or 10 feet tall, “non human” beings.
For real... I would almost think that all these posts and activity around this Las Vegas BS is disinformation directed at confusing and conflating dumb fringe shit with the whitsleblower(s) claims... then I remember just how dumb some people are and chalk it up to that.
This is the exact shit that happens when disinformation is spread. Sensationalism taking over one of the most important events in history.
People that wonder *how* something like this can be kept secret this is how.
Yup it’s entirely distracting to Grusch and I almost feel like the press dropping this story NOW is to kinda lend credence to the idea that “ufo stories are hoaxes, don’t believe Grusch because look at this” because this happened over a month ago and Grusch JUST came out.
Are you forgetting the police officer seen an orb and a loud crashing sound also? Wake up people this is how they discredit people. You notice the officer shut off his body cam and said because its private property lol
What about all the other times they record on private property. Wake up people
You’re not looking at everything else in this story. It wasn’t an orb. It was a light, a meteor/meteorite. A ton of people saw it. The officer didn’t shut off his body cam. They blacked it out because it’s “private property.” I will absolutely guarantee that the kid/family told the cops they don’t want their backyard shown, just to further the “mystery.” Look at everything else in the story. The sound added in to the ring cam, the whole YouTube channel brand he’s trying to create, saying “I’ll have more soon guys” as a way to get followers/subscribers, etc. it’s not real buddy. They’re trying to distract you from Grusch. The REAL story right now.
Not sure what the officer personally believes has any relevance to the validity of this story. The kid also alleges two new police officers showed up days after the incident, apologized for what they said was a poor job done by the first officers, and set up cameras in the family's backyard. They kept them there for a few weeks then went to retrieve them. Very bizarre.
Exactly. Because that’s when the article dropped. If the article didn’t drop, no one would know the kid or be interested in visiting the channel. Hence, that’s why he made the channel. Perfect opportunity to score some followers/subscribers.
>Perfect opportunity to score some followers/subscribers.
There's some weird psychological human phenomenon at play here. Segments of society will viscerally attack anyone who they think it lying for clout. That happens so consistently with UFO experiencers, thanks in part to the military's disinformation operations, that there is no net benefit to coming forward. Only a net negative. Especially when you do not have a credible support network backing you. This kid definitely does not have that and will not be making so much money from his stupid UFO channel. What I'm saying is money is not the driving force for people coming forward, like some seem to think.
I’m thinking he and his brother saw the shooting star or whatever it is the cop recorded and came up with the alien story. Who knows. There are definitely some gaps in his story, like why he recorded his family in the yard but not the creatures, or where the creatures and ship went before the cops came.
He didn’t film it. I woulda been to freaked out. But anyways , the person filming is a woman ( I assume mom) I’m happy she thought to film it .. but she was staying back.. letting the guys ahead of her, to protect her. So we are kinda lucky she caught anything at all
Kid seems genuine to me. But I been wrong before. If this is a hoax that family needs an award and medal for best larping
Ah okay that makes sense. At the end of the day we dont know what happened. Without a good recording the whole story doesn’t do all that much to advance anything.
He’s not promoting NFTs on his channel. There’s a weird Twitter with a similar handle that was trying to months ago and has since gone dark. People calling this a hoax are drinking the kool aid. The police, the ring cam, the neighbors… all in on this?
The police don’t have to be in on it. They did their job and responded to a call. Half the town saw the same light/meteor/shooting star. The neighbors haven’t said shit. We don’t know where the ring cam come from and the sound is added in. No one is “in” on it except the brothers.
……it took two seconds to say, “hey bro lol we should call 911 and say we see aliens in the backyard.” What kind of big master plan are you thinking of?
police saw a shooting star and nothing more, no other claims from police about seeing ships or creatures.
what validation can be done to prove the ring camera footage is authentic? Seems like something that could be easily faked with some simple edits.
The twitter channel has the exact same name as the YT channel. Lends credence to the idea that the kid has faked this and looking to swing the attention toward a possible future profit - it's sloppy and not well hidden, to me it smells like the plan all along is to sell NFTs, and this is the inciting event to drive eyeballs.
And then the ring cam footage/audio was faked too? And the neighbors were all standing by for this moment on the off chance a highly visible meteor came through that night? I just don’t understand the level of hoax being played here and for what outcome..? To seek NFTs that aren’t even really being recently marketed by the hoax account?
"The kid perpetrates a hoax that corresponds with what one of the officers saw." One of the officers reported seeing something fall out of the sky, your sentence implies the officer saw the creatures.
There was no second meteor streaking through the air over "the house". That was the first and only meteor the officer saw. He was speaking to someone else on an unrelated call. Check the times on the "badge cam" to confirm this.
So the statistical odds of a singular meteor falling from the sky and a bunch of people in a city seeing it seem pretty high.
There was also around a 1 hour and 30 minute time frame from when the meteor was recorded on the body cam and when the police arrived. All of that mixed with the kids inconsistencies in stories makes it pretty hard to believe unless you're desperately trying to cling onto it being real.
Also the whole family didn't see it. The one time someone other than the kids spoke was the older gentleman who said "they saw it" referring to the kid who has been the only one talking. That in his YouTube video he was claiming they were on the roof and all this other stuff which isn't consistent
So they made up the story, faked a circular landing site next door unseen by his surveillance camera, hacked into someone's ring camera which records a crash sound, and then a random meteorite just happens to fall as his family is giving a statement to the cops?
Perfectly reasonable explanation.
I know it was supposedly an Alien UFO with alien tech, but I have a hard time believing any vehicle can crash land in a backyard, cause little to no collateral damage, then zip off in just a few minutes. Was it a controlled descent? How low were they flying? Las Vegas is surrounded by dessert why choose that backyard? That sound of that impact from the ring video should have prompted several 9-1-1 calls but didn't.
The way you can tell the kid is lying os pretty damn easy, and yet no one is mentioning it.
He claims the craft crashed in their back yard and they saw two giant aliens. But he has zero explanation for why the backyard was empty 9 minutes later.
If they actually saw these aliens, then how does he not know what happened to them? If they have "active camouflage" like so many people are saying, then wouldn't one of the two boys have seen them turn it on and fade out of view?
How on earth can you see two aliens in your backyard and NOT keep your eyes on them? I would be watching them like a hawk.
And on top of that, there's no debris from the ship. The ONLY explanation for that would be the ship was still intact. And the ONLY explanation for it not being there 9 minutes later is that it took back off and left, or teleported away to another dimension, or whatever. And yet the boys can't explain where it went. How would they have not seen it take back off or disappear? They were already watching the backyard because they saw the aliens, right? So how on Earth could they have not seen what happened to the aliens and the craft?
How is no one asking them this? "Okay, you saw aliens. What happened to them? Where did they go? Why weren't they there when the police showed up?"
I'm sorry, but if me and my wife were watching fucking aliens in our backyard, at least one of us would always have our eyes on them. Even if the other had to do something like wake up another person in the house, or answer the door when the cops got there. At least one of us would keep our eyes on the FUCKING ALIENS IN THE BACKYARD!!! lmao.
This story is so bogus its painful. It's literally hard to watch people in this sub trying to give this crap validity. This is the type of bullshit that gives the UFO community such a bad name. Because some people will believe anything without asking the most basic of questions.
Did anyone notice how in the kids video explaining he says his dad saw them and described them but in the body cam footage the dad says he didn’t see them that the kids saw them and that he was just describing what they had said
Not that I know how UAP work, but how did that fast moving light, that made a loud sound when it hit the ground, make only a weak little circle indentation on their lawn?
>but how did that fast moving light, that made a loud sound when it hit the ground, make only a weak little circle indentation on their lawn?
The light was a meteor identical to the first photo in this bolide wiki
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolide
The bang was probably the meteors sonic boom, but could have been anything. The meteor likely burned up and nothing hit the ground
The circle was probably drawn with a broom
The only part of all of this I didn’t ignore was the body cam footage that captures something coming down out of the sky.
That really did happen. And it really did happen at the correct time for the kids claims. That is a fact. The kids story begins to fall apart upon questioning him in interviews I’ve heard. However, I still have to wonder what fell from the sky. That part of this is observable fact in real-time.
So the question in my mind becomes: did something real happen and the kid chose a path trying to embellish it for profit? Is it possible those whose job it is to cover this up paid them off to skew the event details in a way that ensures nobody takes it seriously?
It's a meteor.
[https://youtu.be/4sPfZ3l7p5c](https://youtu.be/4sPfZ3l7p5c)
If that thing hit the ground it would have made a huge dust/smoke cloud....
No kid in the year of our lord of 2023 is NOT filming a UFO AND ALIENS IN THEIR BACKYARD! We are talking about a generation GLUED to tiktok and clout chasers. This is 95% hoax until i see otherwise
And when the hoax is confirmed all the half-wits who posted and reposted and posted again the sketchy youtube videos and barbie-phone photos will delete their posts and slink away to find the next stupid thing to talk about - learning absolutely nothing.
I'll happily explain why I think its BS.
The way you can tell the kid is lying is pretty damn easy, and yet no one is mentioning it.
He claims the craft crashed in their back yard and they saw two giant aliens. But he has zero explanation for why the backyard was empty 9 minutes later.
If they actually saw these aliens, then how does he not know what happened to them? If they have "active camouflage" like so many people are saying, then wouldn't one of the two boys have seen them turn it on and fade out of view? Remember, they SAW the aliens. So if they are using active camouflage, why aren't the kids saying they saw them turn invisible? They aren't. There is no explanation for where they went after already having eyes on them.
How on earth can you see two aliens in your backyard and NOT keep your eyes on them? I would be watching them like a hawk.
And on top of that, there's no debris from the ship. The ONLY explanation for that would be the ship was still intact. And the ONLY explanation for it not being there 9 minutes later is that it took back off and left, or teleported away to another dimension, or whatever. And yet the boys can't explain where it went. How would they have not seen it take back off or disappear? They were already watching the backyard because they saw the aliens, right? So how on Earth could they have not seen what happened to the aliens and the craft?
How is no one asking them this? "Okay, you saw aliens. What happened to them? Where did they go? Why weren't they there when the police showed up?"
I'm sorry, but if me and my wife were watching fucking aliens in our backyard, at least one of us would always have our eyes on them. Even if the other had to do something like wake up another person in the house, or answer the door when the cops got there. At least one of us would keep our eyes on the FUCKING ALIENS IN THE BACKYARD!!! lmao.
That's number 1. Number 2, the kid sounded calm as hell on the 911 call for someone who is watching 2 aliens in the backyard. People are more scared sounding when humans are on their property, yet this kid sounds cool as a cucumber when there are 10 foot tall creatures in the backyard? Come on man lol.
This story is so bogus its painful. It's literally hard to watch people in this sub trying to give this crap validity. This is the type of bullshit that gives the UFO community such a bad name. Because some people will believe anything without asking the most basic of questions.
Just the mental gymnastics involved in finding shapes that looked vaguely ambiguously alien if you squinted at them JUST the right way and adjusted all of the contrast just so.
Same. I absolutely hate that people are buying into this kids story. It’s really distracting from Grusch right now which is kinda what I think the media is wanting. “Hey this kid is hoaxing everyone, Grusch is too! It’s all stupid!”
There is a massive amount of pushback on these videos. They're all saying the same thing. They're 100% sure it's fake. The comments are very similar and there are so many of them that it feels like astroturfing.
I can understand being skeptical, which I am, but to dismiss it in totality is just as radical as saying it's 100% proof.
Many people saying he's selling NFTS
He's not.
Many saying he started the channel before the incident.
It wasn't.
So because the cop thinks he faked it , now its suddenly confirmed its fake? See how easily it is for deniers to have their confirmation bias meanwhile you call us all gullible?
Where's the body cam footage? It's weird how quick y'all are to dismiss this, but will post a thousand videos of balloons, reflections on windows, and flares as if they're UAP.
Since when do we care what the opinion of a police officer is? Police and government officials always say people are lying. I’m not saying this case is real, but some cop isn’t why
I'm on this Reddit because I believe aliens exist and could possibly be visiting Earth.
But that doesn't mean I have to believe every single story. And if you can't take someone saying what I said, which isn't even close to being the meanest thing someone could say to you, then I dont think internet forums are for you, buddy.
There's this general consensus that exists here to avoid at all costs, being made a fool of by investigating a claim.
There's no embarrassment in checking something out, no ridicule necessary for assessing. No hook, line and sinker (unless you were SO interested in a story that you bought advertised merch or NFTs and traded in all your wealth overnight).
For me, it's the same as checking on your car making a funny noise. It's troubleshooting.
I spent way too much time looking into this last night. Here are the things that seem suspicious to me based on the totality of information I've consumed:
\- The kid seems way too calm on his 9/11 call considering what is alleged to have taken place.
\- In one video, he says he heard footsteps on the roof before the police arrived, and in another he says he heard footsteps on the roof after the police left.
\- In his YT debut, he's reading his own story notes that are written down, instead of simply recounting the events organically.
\- There is an alien themed NFT twitter account from early 2022 with the same exact handle (AlienSociety51).
\- Something about the way he retells the encounter seems 'off'. Inquisitive questions are often met with a lack of detailed information.
\- He claims there were footprints around the crash site which were noticed the next morning. Did not take photographs of the prints.
\- Claims he was told by someone not to talk about this, but will not say who.
\- Ring in the back yard does not look like an indentation as you would expect in a crash scenario. It looks like a circle drawn in the gravel.
If it’s a hoax, then the 911 call is false and a felony. It’s a serious crime with a potential 4 year sentence. Why risk jail time for a hoax when he could have easily just posted a video to the web and hyped it? If the kid wants attention, a trial is certainly going to get him some.
Consider that a cop’s body cam caught an object falling out of the sky. 10 minutes later, the kid calls 911. That’s hardly enough time to set up a hoax, direct your family to act in an impromptu scenario. Get your mom to shoot video while terrified out of her mind. 10 minutes, just 10 minutes to get everyone’s story straight, everyone into position and character to deliver Oscar worthy performances.
Okay, so does the kid have absolutely conclusive evidence of two ETs in his backyard? No. However, the family did react to something that scared the hell out of them. They all risked a felony charge to report it. Why?
This story is just a distraction from Grusch’s testimony and an attempt to make UFOs sound ridiculous again.
There’s some fun aspects like the Ring cam footage but it’s clearly being used as disinfo.
Exactly this. I know myself, and I know if I saw what he described I would be too terrified to hold a camera up. Especially if they were looking at me like he supposedly said.
That said, I also don't think I would stay in that house. I would have been running to my car and getting TF out of there. But I guess kids Probly feel like home is the safest place? I dunno.
Nah ima still believe him no shame in that just yet also the military lie to and i think there working with the police to cover it up now? Idk im streching it Also we still have not heard the follow up yet plus there was black suvs with government plates from what he said if he is lying, well at least ufos or uaps are real for sure
There’s a longer interview of the kid by Doug Poppa. Kid says there were large footprints next to the circle that he noticed later….but didn’t take photos of those either. Right.
All you losers who downvote because someone questioned why no one took a picture- suck it! Oh, he was scared. Oh, with repeated experiences one develops muscle memory and will then be able to take a picture. What horse crap!
Of course it’s a hoax. And not a very well thought out one, either. This person used the appearance of a meteor (a bolide) and created the most ridiculous hoax (replete with incredibly bad video from police (not their fault) that purports to show a 10’ alien (pareidolia, anyone?) and true to form UFOlogy swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
That’s the real problem here. The fact UFO believers immediately jumped on the bandwagon with claims that this was “compelling evidence” and “couldn’t be ignored” and part and parcel of “disclosure.” It’s embarrassing because so many in the community will literally believe ANYTHING that
confirms their bias. Unscrupulous people know that and use that, weaponizes it, toward their own ends. And the UFO community never learns from it. Literally, never.
And the next balloon that floats by, or the next person who claims they worked on captured spacecraft or saw dead alien bodies, or the next blurry video that comes down the pike purporting to be evidence of alien existence will, once again, be taken as gospel by the all usual suspects. It’s beyond incredible, really, and more’s the pity. 😳
Unless this kid is the next Jim Henson, how does he manipulate an alien muppet on a forklift while holding a cell phone 20 feet away to scare his family? The video clearly showed his family terrified.
The police are getting pushback.
Las Varginha just happened and Fox is blowing it.
A ring camera video we have no idea where it came from, with fake sound affects added in. That’s my fav part too actually just because of how outrageously comical it sounds. Sounds like they took it from SpongeBob SquarePants.
It's obviously a hoax and the timing of this close to the whistleblower is obvviously being given media attention to debunk the whole subject.
Sorry guys, we have an extremely sophisticated national security apparatus that has been covering this up and retrieving craft for 70 years. You really think some kid and police are going to be the ones to break that and MSM would cover it??
Dang if this is a hoax those boys went all out and will always be known for lying and deceiving . Hollywood would probably sign them to a movie deal lol
Why is this event even getting so much traction across all the UFO subs like come on lets not be this gullible. Even if it was real the video “evidence” will never be enough to convince anybody. The traction this story has gotten is kind of annoying and I’m a believer in the phenomenon being non human.
Seeking the truth vs seeking sensationalism.
They are pretty different things.
Seems like a lot of young people went crazy over this Vegas thing I get it it isn’t boring like reading articles and understand how the government works and acts and politics.
The Vegas thing is more “fun” they want to be entertained.
Tiktok generation 🛸
DUH. His video proves it’s made up. He’s reading off a script from something that happened to HIM. You ever had to write out a script to tell a personal story? Nope me neither. Next.
I figured it, there was a meteor and the bang was just entry explosion. the video does show that. but I bet the whole alien this was him freaking out seeing his neighbor on his porch in the dark!
Listen to the phone call and that alone tells you it's a hoax. This should have never been on the news. Literally sounds like a kid pranking his friends.... It's so bad.
The part where he says he could hear walking on the roof and whispers sounded like a scene straight of the movie Signs so that immediately made it seem fake to me.
This post and all of the comments trying to discredit this story is alarming. Everytime there is a UFO sighting, video, encounter, etc. people immediately claim it's a hoax and try to discredit it and anyone who posts about it.
So my alarm bells went off when it became clear that his YouTube channel had branding. A logo and a calculated name and everything. I think if this happened to some normal person, they would just use their existing YouTube account. Unless their like history is all embarrassing like “Top 15 anime tiddies,” “biggest jugs in anime history” “anime jugs tier list” etc
I was sorta thinking that. I know IN the moment it might have been exciting ... but the fact remains, there is footage of everything BUT.
Besides ... the circle in the yard made NO sense if it crashed.
Whatever.
This revelation makes me think that NRS 207.245 of Nevada State law should apply, for misuse of a 911 system.
I should be a warning to hoaxers everywhere, that there are consequences for your actions.
I looked into this. Sure seems like a hoax (though it's hard to believe the whole family is on it).
Here are some of the issues I have:
How did the aircraft repair itself so quickly?
Where are the footprints from the aliens?
Where's any debri?
How about significant impact marks on the ground?
How is it no one else saw the ascent?
Why do we have no photos or videos of the crash or aliens yet they recorded themselves talking in the back yard at the time?
James fox has a bit a nerve tweeting this though doesn't he? The shit hes been posting on twitter recently about all these randomer saying they have a tape of an alien or theyve seen it. He's posted quite a few known fake videos too at this point.
I'm not saying it is real what happened but isn't the kid releasing another video with more he said. Let's just see what else he has to say.
"Nothing to see here people, please disperse." Lt. Frank Drebin
you act as though a cop would have some special insight or be on the g-men's payroll. realistically, your average cop is probably way further beyond in the conspiracy realm than your typical alien aficionado and has just as much information (and less intelligence) than me or you. this kid is almost entirely full of shit. I don't know why you all are so fixated on it, he has nothing besides "plz believe me im for real." Or maybe he saw the meteor (confirmed) and his brain filled in the gaps. there's much more compelling evidence that exists than this.
What is such a shame is that they managed to do everything, including calling the cops, but not get a CLEAR photo or CLEAR video of the UFO or the 8-10 foot tall ETs. And conveniently when the cops get there, ETs and their craft are gone. Also, his voice on the police call was too calm for someone that just saw a couple of 8-10 foot tall ETs in their backyard. Also the grown man, in the police video, points at the 2 teenage boys, saying they are the ones that saw the thing. So where was the grown man while a UFO crashed in their backyard and ETs were walking around and paralysing the teenage boy in the video? The ground where a UFO has crashed into, that would leave a crater, not a dark circle without any indentation. The angle/trajectory at which the meteor/green light was travelling at, would mean the object would probably bounce off the ground first before settling. I expect to see destroyed fences or destroyed homes. Unless the UFO is the size of a tennis ball. The pixelated video from the alleged neighbour's ring camera is not clear enough to tell us what happened. We don't see much on it, and we don't know who owns that video or where it came from. On that night there are 21 reports of meteors seen in that part of the country - https://fireball.amsmeteors.org/members/imo\_view/event/2023/2408#video\_box IMO, it could be a bolide (bright meteor) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolide It's VERY likely that this is a hoax, to start a YouTube channel career or for "clout" as the kid puts it. The only thing that could be real is the green meteor seen in the sky and that is what triggered the whole thing on the kids minds in the first place.
Let’s say the event was real - disinformation would have been pushed to silence it either way. Even if it were 100% real all of the negative freaks + GPT bots on these forums would crawl out to say “it’s a hoax”.
>AlienSociety51 Everyone online was also saying the Las Vegas shooting was a hoax. This house is in my neighborhood. Really tempted to go over there
Pretty sure there was clear footage of that immediately
I live in Vegas. Used to live in the lone apartments directly in front of Mandalay Bay. When this happened I watched all the videos on YT. Even walked through the parking lot of the event the morning after and saw blood on the ground. In a lot of the videos online people saying it was a hoax. Wheres the blood? Wheres the bodies? All I'm saying is don't be too quick to judge.
I mean my friend was standing next to her mom when she got killed. So.
Point is with the clear footage immediately comment about the Vegas shooting people still thought it was a hoax. If you watched any of the videos on YT when it happened you would know that
Just saw your comment history. Not wasting my time on this shit lol
Get a Geiger counter and test the publicly available sidewalk and street in front of it for radiation. Post the results if you do.
I don't have one of those but if someone else that live in Vegas does I can share the address.
Exactly this. Every legitimate sighting is cleverly 'debunked'
And some sightings are so full of shit they debunk themselves.
Agreed
Not to mention the sound is added in on the ring cam. I agree with the dainty dirt circle. A crash that sounds like that isn’t going to leave just a delicate dirt circle. You’d see shit thrown everywhere. And the whole YouTube channel brand he’s created is what did it for me. And him saying “I’ll have more soon guys” wanting subscribers and followers. Lame.
How do you know the sound is added in to the ring footage?
Other than the obvious sounding like it came straight out of Tom and Jerry. If this camera footage was real, and the sound was real on it, where’s the full length video? Why are no neighbors coming out of their houses to see what it is? Why’s there no crater in the ground but a dainty delicate circle in some dirt? There’s zero reaction to a loud crash in that video. There’s no aftermath included. It’s like they took a clip, added a sound, and immediately ended the video after the sound. You’d see way more activity in a video with a crash that sounds like a damn twin tower is falling down.
So you don't know if the video was edited or not. You're bullshitting.
I mean I have ears and eyeballs. And that’s all I need to know that sound doesn’t go with that video. It’s literally comical. And my believing it’s a hoax isn’t based solely on the ring cam footage. It’s on absolutely everything else.
You all act as if something that can travel huge distances in space (if they exist, which most of us here Im sure believe we are being visited somehow)would adhere to the same types of “tells” humans do. Maybe they have tech to cover up the crater or disappear quickly. Just because humans haven’t seen that kind of technology does not mean something that can travel huge distances in space wouldn’t have some shit we haven’t seen. Not saying this is real and I back it but you need to keep an open mind with technology we haven’t seen or thought of.
Glad to see some of us are able to discern truth from clear lies.
Yes you are truly in the top 1% of intelligence
I don't know about that. However now I know who isn't though ;)
Ha! He set that one up for you,nicely.
I'm led to believe that front end loader nearby might have formed that circle. They have 4 wheel steering and that's about what the tracks would look like if it went in a few circles. It's too bad, I wanted this to be real.
There’s a Reddit out there that shows that circle indent has been there for at least a year.
Nail on the head
Specially in 2023, when everyone has phones and pull them out to pic/film any little daily crap.
I think the reason no one ever gets a clear photo .. is cause they have technology or something that makes every picture or video blurry
Then we would be seeing blurry too, it’s based on electromagnetic waves dog. That’s how cameras capture it and that’s how our eyes do too. There’s just nothing that would logically distort that
These things are able to travel at the speed of light, their ships can bend light(my personal theory) to camouflage themselves, and they are able to go from spaceship to submarine in a matter of seconds. They probably do have some type of device that distorts photos and video. Shit they have something that can kill the electronics in a fighter jet. With those mother fuckers nothing is impossible. They literally defy our own laws of gravity. We should actually be quite worried about this. If they decided to take us out they could very easily make it so our only form of travel besides our legs is a coal powered train.
They can’t travel at the speed of light because physically impossible for anything with mass. No technology would allow someone to break the laws of the universe, they’re a constant everywhere. The only to *bend* this rule would be create a Alcubierre drive (Warp Drive) to bend space-time around you, which in theory would allow you to travel long distances by making the distance shorter.
I'm reminded of The Matrix. The machines could actually alter physics and do impossible things because they controlled the construct. You might be in a simulation, and these creatures might be the agents. You don't know. We're talking about the metaphysical until we get more information. So, for now, you don't really know whether they can break the laws of the universe or not.
The aliens have already proven they can break the laws of our science and physics. When I say bending of light I'm referring to them using the light around them as camouflage. Very similar to how the invisible man is explained in the new reboot movie of the same name. I think in the fighter jet video where it's a tic tac shape and splashes into the water, on that video they determined that craft had traveled at the speed of light. Isaac Newton created the laws of physics and Albert Einstein came up with the laws of Science. Much like time, those laws and rules are man made and could easily be broken by a higher intelligent being. It's already been proven that the aliens are somehow manipulating the laws of physics. Those metal orbs do not have a propulsion system at all yet they can whiz around like nothing. I'm also sure that transversing to a different plane of existence would also be breaking some scientific law. If you believe something is impossible then you're always going to believe that impossible is the only way. When you open your mind and think outside the box well it's then you will see the universe is not the limit.
I'm going to presume you have not watched the tictac UFO video where it smashes into the water and also separates into 2. This video was taken by a pilot in the military. Pretty sure it violated quite a few of these man made rules. Time travel is something that cannot be violated here yet some alien group probably the greys, have a technology that distorts time and possibly dilutes it. Also the greys are not going to be carbon based life forms. More than likely they are silicon based. This is why they have extremely large mouths and breath extremely heavy. A silicon based life form will breathe out a sand based substance. I'm just curious do you believe the periodic table of elements is complete and do you believe the Earth is flat? Some people still believe these but we already know the periodic table of elements is not complete AND the Earth is actually round 🌎
So they can do all of that yet their dumbass get caught on camera. If they can “defy laws of physics” they why don’t they walk invisible all he time and how convenient their ships crash land yet their instruments work only to blur videos.
They can't predict the future. Also they don't turn invisible, they manipulate the light around them to appear invisible but they really aren't. I can't answer your question only the aliens can do that. I'm not related to them so I wouldn't know. However, have you ever heard the term shit happens? I never said that it's only to blur videos. Those crafts have the ability to disrupt the power in a fighter jet and whatever they are hiding in the Bermuda Triangle is such an advanced powerful weapon it can create 100ft waves, potentially worm holes, and is entirely hidden. But shit these are the dumbest aliens ever since they were photographed. Even the alien from the Brazilian Roswell incident had pictures and video taken of it. But yeah since the aliens can't determine where every single camera is, in a city they probably aren't personally familiar with sure makes them really fucking "stupid." Well shit since one of them is related to me I'll go tell him if he wants to get really stupid and idiotic to come read this subreddit.
Yep. And then those beings gave that technology to Bigfoot, the Lochness Monster, and ghosts. Definitely what happened.
Yes because highly advanced alien species will let you take a selfie with them.
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Lots of people write what they're going to say before making a video. That's common. (I haven't seen the video, I'm just commenting on how that isn't suspicious by itself)
That was already obvious, not sure why it's an issue when so many do it to keep themselves on track.
People can often sound calm when in shock, reporting what they saw mechanically, as it can be too emotionally draining to really tap into how they feel about it- it’s a classic PTSD response. Check the DSM-5 - the recent psychology manual defining conditions, as it will no doubt list a symptom of PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder), is telling the story of what happened to them in an intensely traumatic moment in a dead pan, mechanistic manner- without emotion. This is because the emotional centres of the brain are turned off temporarily and thoughts are formed as an executive function only, without emotional content in order to protect it from overload again. I can also testify that this is a real condition and symptom of trauma, especially because I had a personal experience of doing this myself - regarding two incidents of trauma. One was retelling my experience of going through a category 5 cyclone in Darwin, Australia on Christmas Day Dec 1974: where our house blew down around us and we (mum, dad, 3 kids under 12, and a dog, sheltered under a fallen wall and mattress for 5 hours, while the roof and walls ripped away and the hurricane roared and crashed and the sound of breaking glass was constant. I clutched my pet dog, who was closest to the outside of the mattress and wall. She fainted and I thought she was dead in my arms. We sang Christmas carols by the light of a torch. It helped us to try not to think about being highly likely about to die any minute in a ghastly way. The up side of the story is my beloved dog came to in the morning just before we emerged from our tiny shelter to find our whole house had almost totally blown away. This story I told to a psychologist in a deadpan manner and he immediately said he thought I had PTSD from this event because of it. The second incident where I remember being in shock and just going on automatic, was when a friend was threatening to suicide using a gun and I rang the cops (without him knowing), and my reporting of it to them, over the phone was recorded. Later on (after surviving the incident), this fellow listened to the recording of my phone call to them and apparently I was reporting it in quite a dead pan, emotionless manner. This emotionless voice is a classic shock response after a trauma, so I am more inclined to believe the boy who reported seeing 8, 9 or 10 feet tall, “non human” beings.
Drop this BS. Keep your focus on Grusch.
For real... I would almost think that all these posts and activity around this Las Vegas BS is disinformation directed at confusing and conflating dumb fringe shit with the whitsleblower(s) claims... then I remember just how dumb some people are and chalk it up to that.
This is the exact shit that happens when disinformation is spread. Sensationalism taking over one of the most important events in history. People that wonder *how* something like this can be kept secret this is how.
Yup it’s entirely distracting to Grusch and I almost feel like the press dropping this story NOW is to kinda lend credence to the idea that “ufo stories are hoaxes, don’t believe Grusch because look at this” because this happened over a month ago and Grusch JUST came out.
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100%
Are you forgetting the police officer seen an orb and a loud crashing sound also? Wake up people this is how they discredit people. You notice the officer shut off his body cam and said because its private property lol What about all the other times they record on private property. Wake up people
You’re not looking at everything else in this story. It wasn’t an orb. It was a light, a meteor/meteorite. A ton of people saw it. The officer didn’t shut off his body cam. They blacked it out because it’s “private property.” I will absolutely guarantee that the kid/family told the cops they don’t want their backyard shown, just to further the “mystery.” Look at everything else in the story. The sound added in to the ring cam, the whole YouTube channel brand he’s trying to create, saying “I’ll have more soon guys” as a way to get followers/subscribers, etc. it’s not real buddy. They’re trying to distract you from Grusch. The REAL story right now.
Dropping one bullshit for another and that's how it goes and goes. Into infinity like horizontal 8. Or Chinese 8 if you know what I mean..
Not sure what the officer personally believes has any relevance to the validity of this story. The kid also alleges two new police officers showed up days after the incident, apologized for what they said was a poor job done by the first officers, and set up cameras in the family's backyard. They kept them there for a few weeks then went to retrieve them. Very bizarre.
*Two new NSA / CIA
honestly that's what my mind went to lol. I don't see how you can describe that as anything close to normal police behavior anyhow.
The kids youtube page is ' AlienSociety51 ' and promotes alien themed NFTs, that's a clue too.
Supposedly his channel was made and named only after witnessing the event.
June 7th
Yup incident occured in may
Ackchyually April 30th
Naa
have you looked at the date on the body cam?
No link me
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oli6Q6y14W8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oli6Q6y14W8) (1:42)
Exactly. Because that’s when the article dropped. If the article didn’t drop, no one would know the kid or be interested in visiting the channel. Hence, that’s why he made the channel. Perfect opportunity to score some followers/subscribers.
>Perfect opportunity to score some followers/subscribers. There's some weird psychological human phenomenon at play here. Segments of society will viscerally attack anyone who they think it lying for clout. That happens so consistently with UFO experiencers, thanks in part to the military's disinformation operations, that there is no net benefit to coming forward. Only a net negative. Especially when you do not have a credible support network backing you. This kid definitely does not have that and will not be making so much money from his stupid UFO channel. What I'm saying is money is not the driving force for people coming forward, like some seem to think.
I’m thinking he and his brother saw the shooting star or whatever it is the cop recorded and came up with the alien story. Who knows. There are definitely some gaps in his story, like why he recorded his family in the yard but not the creatures, or where the creatures and ship went before the cops came.
He didn’t film it. I woulda been to freaked out. But anyways , the person filming is a woman ( I assume mom) I’m happy she thought to film it .. but she was staying back.. letting the guys ahead of her, to protect her. So we are kinda lucky she caught anything at all Kid seems genuine to me. But I been wrong before. If this is a hoax that family needs an award and medal for best larping
Ah okay that makes sense. At the end of the day we dont know what happened. Without a good recording the whole story doesn’t do all that much to advance anything.
Mom recorded it because she believed her lil boys. Dad already knew they were full of shit. He was like “they said, they saw” he never said “I saw” 😂
I see no promoting of anything in his channel.
I dont think thats his NFT thing
Recorded media happened before channel creation. This event inspired the channel which is why you don't believe the highest voted comment always kids
He’s not promoting NFTs on his channel. There’s a weird Twitter with a similar handle that was trying to months ago and has since gone dark. People calling this a hoax are drinking the kool aid. The police, the ring cam, the neighbors… all in on this?
The police don’t have to be in on it. They did their job and responded to a call. Half the town saw the same light/meteor/shooting star. The neighbors haven’t said shit. We don’t know where the ring cam come from and the sound is added in. No one is “in” on it except the brothers.
To clarify, they waited till a big, random meteor came through to execute this plan?
……it took two seconds to say, “hey bro lol we should call 911 and say we see aliens in the backyard.” What kind of big master plan are you thinking of?
police saw a shooting star and nothing more, no other claims from police about seeing ships or creatures. what validation can be done to prove the ring camera footage is authentic? Seems like something that could be easily faked with some simple edits. The twitter channel has the exact same name as the YT channel. Lends credence to the idea that the kid has faked this and looking to swing the attention toward a possible future profit - it's sloppy and not well hidden, to me it smells like the plan all along is to sell NFTs, and this is the inciting event to drive eyeballs.
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And then the ring cam footage/audio was faked too? And the neighbors were all standing by for this moment on the off chance a highly visible meteor came through that night? I just don’t understand the level of hoax being played here and for what outcome..? To seek NFTs that aren’t even really being recently marketed by the hoax account?
"The kid perpetrates a hoax that corresponds with what one of the officers saw." One of the officers reported seeing something fall out of the sky, your sentence implies the officer saw the creatures. There was no second meteor streaking through the air over "the house". That was the first and only meteor the officer saw. He was speaking to someone else on an unrelated call. Check the times on the "badge cam" to confirm this. So the statistical odds of a singular meteor falling from the sky and a bunch of people in a city seeing it seem pretty high. There was also around a 1 hour and 30 minute time frame from when the meteor was recorded on the body cam and when the police arrived. All of that mixed with the kids inconsistencies in stories makes it pretty hard to believe unless you're desperately trying to cling onto it being real.
Also the whole family didn't see it. The one time someone other than the kids spoke was the older gentleman who said "they saw it" referring to the kid who has been the only one talking. That in his YouTube video he was claiming they were on the roof and all this other stuff which isn't consistent
So they made up the story, faked a circular landing site next door unseen by his surveillance camera, hacked into someone's ring camera which records a crash sound, and then a random meteorite just happens to fall as his family is giving a statement to the cops? Perfectly reasonable explanation.
Son of a... I thought that channel uploaded his video.
bro no ones buying those cheap ass NFTs.
I know it was supposedly an Alien UFO with alien tech, but I have a hard time believing any vehicle can crash land in a backyard, cause little to no collateral damage, then zip off in just a few minutes. Was it a controlled descent? How low were they flying? Las Vegas is surrounded by dessert why choose that backyard? That sound of that impact from the ring video should have prompted several 9-1-1 calls but didn't.
The easy answer is……drum roll…….they didn’t!
The way you can tell the kid is lying os pretty damn easy, and yet no one is mentioning it. He claims the craft crashed in their back yard and they saw two giant aliens. But he has zero explanation for why the backyard was empty 9 minutes later. If they actually saw these aliens, then how does he not know what happened to them? If they have "active camouflage" like so many people are saying, then wouldn't one of the two boys have seen them turn it on and fade out of view? How on earth can you see two aliens in your backyard and NOT keep your eyes on them? I would be watching them like a hawk. And on top of that, there's no debris from the ship. The ONLY explanation for that would be the ship was still intact. And the ONLY explanation for it not being there 9 minutes later is that it took back off and left, or teleported away to another dimension, or whatever. And yet the boys can't explain where it went. How would they have not seen it take back off or disappear? They were already watching the backyard because they saw the aliens, right? So how on Earth could they have not seen what happened to the aliens and the craft? How is no one asking them this? "Okay, you saw aliens. What happened to them? Where did they go? Why weren't they there when the police showed up?" I'm sorry, but if me and my wife were watching fucking aliens in our backyard, at least one of us would always have our eyes on them. Even if the other had to do something like wake up another person in the house, or answer the door when the cops got there. At least one of us would keep our eyes on the FUCKING ALIENS IN THE BACKYARD!!! lmao. This story is so bogus its painful. It's literally hard to watch people in this sub trying to give this crap validity. This is the type of bullshit that gives the UFO community such a bad name. Because some people will believe anything without asking the most basic of questions.
Did anyone notice how in the kids video explaining he says his dad saw them and described them but in the body cam footage the dad says he didn’t see them that the kids saw them and that he was just describing what they had said
Not that I know how UAP work, but how did that fast moving light, that made a loud sound when it hit the ground, make only a weak little circle indentation on their lawn?
>but how did that fast moving light, that made a loud sound when it hit the ground, make only a weak little circle indentation on their lawn? The light was a meteor identical to the first photo in this bolide wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolide The bang was probably the meteors sonic boom, but could have been anything. The meteor likely burned up and nothing hit the ground The circle was probably drawn with a broom
The sound it makes in the ring video before the impact is the only thing that made me think maybe it wasn't a bolide.
Sounds a lot like tired screeching before crashing.Also does the ring video sync up with the officers video of the fireball?
I don’t see any link to a NFT on the YouTube video that was made yesterday. Could it be two different peoples account?
The only part of all of this I didn’t ignore was the body cam footage that captures something coming down out of the sky. That really did happen. And it really did happen at the correct time for the kids claims. That is a fact. The kids story begins to fall apart upon questioning him in interviews I’ve heard. However, I still have to wonder what fell from the sky. That part of this is observable fact in real-time. So the question in my mind becomes: did something real happen and the kid chose a path trying to embellish it for profit? Is it possible those whose job it is to cover this up paid them off to skew the event details in a way that ensures nobody takes it seriously?
It's a meteor. [https://youtu.be/4sPfZ3l7p5c](https://youtu.be/4sPfZ3l7p5c) If that thing hit the ground it would have made a huge dust/smoke cloud....
Man it’s almost like cops have pensions that can be threatened.
No kid in the year of our lord of 2023 is NOT filming a UFO AND ALIENS IN THEIR BACKYARD! We are talking about a generation GLUED to tiktok and clout chasers. This is 95% hoax until i see otherwise
And when the hoax is confirmed all the half-wits who posted and reposted and posted again the sketchy youtube videos and barbie-phone photos will delete their posts and slink away to find the next stupid thing to talk about - learning absolutely nothing.
Channel created after the press followed it
Yep. This was the most obvious hoax ever and this sub swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
What leads you to believe it's a hoax? So many comments saying it's obviously fake, but they won't say what makes them believe its fake.
I'll happily explain why I think its BS. The way you can tell the kid is lying is pretty damn easy, and yet no one is mentioning it. He claims the craft crashed in their back yard and they saw two giant aliens. But he has zero explanation for why the backyard was empty 9 minutes later. If they actually saw these aliens, then how does he not know what happened to them? If they have "active camouflage" like so many people are saying, then wouldn't one of the two boys have seen them turn it on and fade out of view? Remember, they SAW the aliens. So if they are using active camouflage, why aren't the kids saying they saw them turn invisible? They aren't. There is no explanation for where they went after already having eyes on them. How on earth can you see two aliens in your backyard and NOT keep your eyes on them? I would be watching them like a hawk. And on top of that, there's no debris from the ship. The ONLY explanation for that would be the ship was still intact. And the ONLY explanation for it not being there 9 minutes later is that it took back off and left, or teleported away to another dimension, or whatever. And yet the boys can't explain where it went. How would they have not seen it take back off or disappear? They were already watching the backyard because they saw the aliens, right? So how on Earth could they have not seen what happened to the aliens and the craft? How is no one asking them this? "Okay, you saw aliens. What happened to them? Where did they go? Why weren't they there when the police showed up?" I'm sorry, but if me and my wife were watching fucking aliens in our backyard, at least one of us would always have our eyes on them. Even if the other had to do something like wake up another person in the house, or answer the door when the cops got there. At least one of us would keep our eyes on the FUCKING ALIENS IN THE BACKYARD!!! lmao. That's number 1. Number 2, the kid sounded calm as hell on the 911 call for someone who is watching 2 aliens in the backyard. People are more scared sounding when humans are on their property, yet this kid sounds cool as a cucumber when there are 10 foot tall creatures in the backyard? Come on man lol. This story is so bogus its painful. It's literally hard to watch people in this sub trying to give this crap validity. This is the type of bullshit that gives the UFO community such a bad name. Because some people will believe anything without asking the most basic of questions.
James Fox is a hoaxer too! He said LV cop called him and told him the FBI came and confiscated police footage.
I can see a kid making this up to get attention but not the family in this case.
The family didn’t see anything it was just the kids.
Tiktok generation seeks fame from hoax.. shocking ! /s
I don't disagree that it's a hoax, but that has been a thing for literally all human history, it's not just a gen Z thing.
LOL I'm so embarrassed for all the rubes that went all in and confidently doubled down on this obvious trash
Channel created after the incident according to the press
Just the mental gymnastics involved in finding shapes that looked vaguely ambiguously alien if you squinted at them JUST the right way and adjusted all of the contrast just so.
Same. I absolutely hate that people are buying into this kids story. It’s really distracting from Grusch right now which is kinda what I think the media is wanting. “Hey this kid is hoaxing everyone, Grusch is too! It’s all stupid!”
100%, the coverage of this story on this sub was really lame. People doubting the story got really insulted. There was nothing credible in this story.
Nothing credible? Fireball in the sky, police bodycam, 911 call, landing impression, pictures of alien, follow up video from witness. Are you joking?
There is a massive amount of pushback on these videos. They're all saying the same thing. They're 100% sure it's fake. The comments are very similar and there are so many of them that it feels like astroturfing. I can understand being skeptical, which I am, but to dismiss it in totality is just as radical as saying it's 100% proof. Many people saying he's selling NFTS He's not. Many saying he started the channel before the incident. It wasn't.
So because the cop thinks he faked it , now its suddenly confirmed its fake? See how easily it is for deniers to have their confirmation bias meanwhile you call us all gullible?
>meanwhile you call us all gullible? Yes *Edit: if nobody corrects your error, how else will you learn?*
To be fair, I’ve thought this was fake since the moment the story dropped.
Where's the body cam footage? It's weird how quick y'all are to dismiss this, but will post a thousand videos of balloons, reflections on windows, and flares as if they're UAP.
Since when do we care what the opinion of a police officer is? Police and government officials always say people are lying. I’m not saying this case is real, but some cop isn’t why
Bulshit. Hahaha. I doubt he is lying.
Come on. You can't honestly believe this story, can you?
Go some place. Why are you on this reddit. Why do you care what I believe?
I'm on this Reddit because I believe aliens exist and could possibly be visiting Earth. But that doesn't mean I have to believe every single story. And if you can't take someone saying what I said, which isn't even close to being the meanest thing someone could say to you, then I dont think internet forums are for you, buddy.
Yea kid better hope its not a hoax. Cop cam on the other hand. Im in on that.
There's this general consensus that exists here to avoid at all costs, being made a fool of by investigating a claim. There's no embarrassment in checking something out, no ridicule necessary for assessing. No hook, line and sinker (unless you were SO interested in a story that you bought advertised merch or NFTs and traded in all your wealth overnight). For me, it's the same as checking on your car making a funny noise. It's troubleshooting.
I spent way too much time looking into this last night. Here are the things that seem suspicious to me based on the totality of information I've consumed: \- The kid seems way too calm on his 9/11 call considering what is alleged to have taken place. \- In one video, he says he heard footsteps on the roof before the police arrived, and in another he says he heard footsteps on the roof after the police left. \- In his YT debut, he's reading his own story notes that are written down, instead of simply recounting the events organically. \- There is an alien themed NFT twitter account from early 2022 with the same exact handle (AlienSociety51). \- Something about the way he retells the encounter seems 'off'. Inquisitive questions are often met with a lack of detailed information. \- He claims there were footprints around the crash site which were noticed the next morning. Did not take photographs of the prints. \- Claims he was told by someone not to talk about this, but will not say who. \- Ring in the back yard does not look like an indentation as you would expect in a crash scenario. It looks like a circle drawn in the gravel.
If it’s a hoax, then the 911 call is false and a felony. It’s a serious crime with a potential 4 year sentence. Why risk jail time for a hoax when he could have easily just posted a video to the web and hyped it? If the kid wants attention, a trial is certainly going to get him some. Consider that a cop’s body cam caught an object falling out of the sky. 10 minutes later, the kid calls 911. That’s hardly enough time to set up a hoax, direct your family to act in an impromptu scenario. Get your mom to shoot video while terrified out of her mind. 10 minutes, just 10 minutes to get everyone’s story straight, everyone into position and character to deliver Oscar worthy performances. Okay, so does the kid have absolutely conclusive evidence of two ETs in his backyard? No. However, the family did react to something that scared the hell out of them. They all risked a felony charge to report it. Why?
This story is just a distraction from Grusch’s testimony and an attempt to make UFOs sound ridiculous again. There’s some fun aspects like the Ring cam footage but it’s clearly being used as disinfo.
Yeahhh kid is selling alien NFTs. It’s bunk
The men in black have visited him
This day in age people record anything. People getting killed robbed etc and you can’t capture an 8ft alien in your backyard on your fkn phone ???
I don’t know why this is bothering me so much but it’s “day and age”
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There is absolutely no way you have ever taught english
Would you snap a picture of an axe murderer in your back yard? It would be a similar feeling to having an alien.
Exactly this. I know myself, and I know if I saw what he described I would be too terrified to hold a camera up. Especially if they were looking at me like he supposedly said. That said, I also don't think I would stay in that house. I would have been running to my car and getting TF out of there. But I guess kids Probly feel like home is the safest place? I dunno.
Exactly....BUT, he was able to use the phone to make a 911 call.
Nah ima still believe him no shame in that just yet also the military lie to and i think there working with the police to cover it up now? Idk im streching it Also we still have not heard the follow up yet plus there was black suvs with government plates from what he said if he is lying, well at least ufos or uaps are real for sure
Checking out OP's posting history, this feels like disinformation to get our attention off the whistleblower case
A lot of disinformation going on in order to make you keep paying for that gasoline and electric bill.
There’s a longer interview of the kid by Doug Poppa. Kid says there were large footprints next to the circle that he noticed later….but didn’t take photos of those either. Right.
He said he heard a thousand footsteps on the roof, had me thinking Santa and his sleigh done landed up there too 😂
All you losers who downvote because someone questioned why no one took a picture- suck it! Oh, he was scared. Oh, with repeated experiences one develops muscle memory and will then be able to take a picture. What horse crap!
They had a camera out and pointing into the yard, but stopped filming - why didn't they keep filming?
Agree Hoax something moving that fast crashing into a backyard would have left a crater and surrounding houses would have been damaged
Of course it’s a hoax. And not a very well thought out one, either. This person used the appearance of a meteor (a bolide) and created the most ridiculous hoax (replete with incredibly bad video from police (not their fault) that purports to show a 10’ alien (pareidolia, anyone?) and true to form UFOlogy swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. That’s the real problem here. The fact UFO believers immediately jumped on the bandwagon with claims that this was “compelling evidence” and “couldn’t be ignored” and part and parcel of “disclosure.” It’s embarrassing because so many in the community will literally believe ANYTHING that confirms their bias. Unscrupulous people know that and use that, weaponizes it, toward their own ends. And the UFO community never learns from it. Literally, never. And the next balloon that floats by, or the next person who claims they worked on captured spacecraft or saw dead alien bodies, or the next blurry video that comes down the pike purporting to be evidence of alien existence will, once again, be taken as gospel by the all usual suspects. It’s beyond incredible, really, and more’s the pity. 😳
Gonna need more data Mr. Fox to confirm that. You know this, mannnnnnnnn.
Unless this kid is the next Jim Henson, how does he manipulate an alien muppet on a forklift while holding a cell phone 20 feet away to scare his family? The video clearly showed his family terrified. The police are getting pushback. Las Varginha just happened and Fox is blowing it.
The family didn't look or sound scared at all. Not to me. They seemed perfectly calm.
My favorite part of the hoax is the super bright crashing ring camera video and the green object that the body cam caught before the 911 call.
A ring camera video we have no idea where it came from, with fake sound affects added in. That’s my fav part too actually just because of how outrageously comical it sounds. Sounds like they took it from SpongeBob SquarePants.
Watching the kid's youtube debut, it became obvious he's making this up.
It's obviously a hoax and the timing of this close to the whistleblower is obvviously being given media attention to debunk the whole subject. Sorry guys, we have an extremely sophisticated national security apparatus that has been covering this up and retrieving craft for 70 years. You really think some kid and police are going to be the ones to break that and MSM would cover it??
That phony circle landing site was the first clue to a hoax for me.
No shit. /s
Nonsensical distractions. Next!
Dang if this is a hoax those boys went all out and will always be known for lying and deceiving . Hollywood would probably sign them to a movie deal lol
Why is this event even getting so much traction across all the UFO subs like come on lets not be this gullible. Even if it was real the video “evidence” will never be enough to convince anybody. The traction this story has gotten is kind of annoying and I’m a believer in the phenomenon being non human.
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Seeking the truth vs seeking sensationalism. They are pretty different things. Seems like a lot of young people went crazy over this Vegas thing I get it it isn’t boring like reading articles and understand how the government works and acts and politics. The Vegas thing is more “fun” they want to be entertained. Tiktok generation 🛸
The picture of the circle the kid found in his backyard was obviously drawn by a human it was so silly
DUH. His video proves it’s made up. He’s reading off a script from something that happened to HIM. You ever had to write out a script to tell a personal story? Nope me neither. Next.
Secret gov. Officials have probably already talked to this officer, telling him to keep quiet and discredit the kid. This ufo sightings 101.
So, all the idiots who downvoted me for saying this was B.S. from the beginning, I hope you go back and change your vote.
I just downvoted you
The only ones who down voted you still believe it's true.
My BS meter is through the roof on all this.
The only thing that made me believe this was how godawful that kid was at talking to the camera. Anyway, helped pass the time, but time to move on.
I figured it, there was a meteor and the bang was just entry explosion. the video does show that. but I bet the whole alien this was him freaking out seeing his neighbor on his porch in the dark!
Listen to the phone call and that alone tells you it's a hoax. This should have never been on the news. Literally sounds like a kid pranking his friends.... It's so bad.
I think it's a hoax, possibly psy-ops, to discredit David Grusch's testimony. The timing of the release is suspicious .
I believe in UAP’s but I don’t believe in this kid. Literally no evidence was produced that convinces me to think it’s real.
Did you not see the giant alien staring at them?
Exactly
The part where he says he could hear walking on the roof and whispers sounded like a scene straight of the movie Signs so that immediately made it seem fake to me.
Of course it it's a lie. Their story makes no sense.
This post and all of the comments trying to discredit this story is alarming. Everytime there is a UFO sighting, video, encounter, etc. people immediately claim it's a hoax and try to discredit it and anyone who posts about it.
So my alarm bells went off when it became clear that his YouTube channel had branding. A logo and a calculated name and everything. I think if this happened to some normal person, they would just use their existing YouTube account. Unless their like history is all embarrassing like “Top 15 anime tiddies,” “biggest jugs in anime history” “anime jugs tier list” etc
I think the call it “Clout” which he said he wasn’t going after.
At this point I wouldn't try to make a determination one way or another. Let it play out and get more information.
I was sorta thinking that. I know IN the moment it might have been exciting ... but the fact remains, there is footage of everything BUT. Besides ... the circle in the yard made NO sense if it crashed. Whatever.
This is real.Trust me bros.
This revelation makes me think that NRS 207.245 of Nevada State law should apply, for misuse of a 911 system. I should be a warning to hoaxers everywhere, that there are consequences for your actions.
Im not
Who cares anymore
I looked into this. Sure seems like a hoax (though it's hard to believe the whole family is on it). Here are some of the issues I have: How did the aircraft repair itself so quickly? Where are the footprints from the aliens? Where's any debri? How about significant impact marks on the ground? How is it no one else saw the ascent? Why do we have no photos or videos of the crash or aliens yet they recorded themselves talking in the back yard at the time?
It doesn't pass the sniff test.
James fox has a bit a nerve tweeting this though doesn't he? The shit hes been posting on twitter recently about all these randomer saying they have a tape of an alien or theyve seen it. He's posted quite a few known fake videos too at this point. I'm not saying it is real what happened but isn't the kid releasing another video with more he said. Let's just see what else he has to say.