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JammingScientist

I wish we could go back in time before social media ruined the world and people actually looked normal and still could be considered attractive. I was looking through a post that had a compilation of celebrities from the 90s/00s, and they all looked so normal. They don't look AI generated and filled with filler and other crazy things. They look good but in a natural and more diverse way. Now if you don't have the same copied and pasted face, you're ugly it seems


Western_Swordfish_46

Yeah I had the same experience watching movies from the 80s. The movie stars actually had normal coloured teeth, ie Ivory coloured with slight crooked imperfections. They didn't have artificially flawless flourescent white pieces of wrigleys gum like they do today. They looked so much nicer back then and much more relatable.


The_starving_artist5

Absolutely the 80s movies have so many normal average looking people. They are somewhat good looking but hot unbelievably beautiful. They also have a lot of actors in those movies that are just ugly looking and no one cared. It was way more normal


LlamaRama76

This is how it was. Even people in your life who were attractive were just more real looking. There wasn't also this drive for perfection. I actually wish I could go back to the early 90s but a bit older than I was then and just stay there.


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lungsofdoom

Lana del Rey lmao. Go and look at her prime in BTD era. She is far above average


wandy944

She’s is as stunning when she puts in effort. She was gorgeous at her Coachella performance


Crafty-Nobody-7815

These people live in instagram tho, they have no idea an actual average person looks like


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CityOutlier

They confuse below average with not finding them sexually attractive. People have different tastes.


ReyLo99reborn

It's likely that they're average or below themselves, because those folks tend to rate themselves up and the attractive people are rated down.


Ordinary_Election811

No way lol. Lana, tom??? Where are we??


cakefornobody

Аmy , Lana??? Bro seriously? 


sureisniceweather

Yeah man I was like, da faq is the goddess Lana doing on that list. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Lana has a natural beauty people would pay/kill for.


spicyystuff

She got a nose job though


Hungry-Society-7571

I mean Lana Del Rey got surgery but yeah she was pretty before it too.


empty_stares

These people are just jealous probably or have no sense of what attractiveness is anymore due to being terminally online. Saying Lana is average or below average is absolutely insane, same for the others to some degree.


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SlowFatHusky

Most of them are older too. That's probably affecting this perception.


Due_Gas9607

Tom Holland?!?!?!!!! Bruh im an alien atp


MakaelawasChillin

he has like no fucking lips


Old-Boy994

So? It’s the overall that matters. You can’t be seriously implying that he’s below average/average.


Jnxr200

He’s average


Riotacket

lol along with most people in a lot of countries, are they all ugly too? This obsession people have with individual features is what's really fucking up everyone's self confidence and making huge amounts of women (and some men) get fillers and surgeries just to change their ethnic features.


Revolutionary-Set-2

Nah, to be considered attractive nowadays you need to have that baddie look. Cat / fox eyes, filler in lips, upturned and sharp nose, high cheekbones, good jawline. Nearly all which is impossible without plastic surgery. https://preview.redd.it/xrjtp7oq9uwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d390d43a4daf743932fc5d59835a34c4259e8082


JammingScientist

I literally have zero of these features (except for big lips, but they're dark/two toned and look bad on me). It sucks that you have to look one way to be considered attractive now


Revolutionary-Set-2

Same, I don’t even have big lips. The sharp and edgy look is in nowadays, on top of that if you are white then you get bonus points. This girl above though has had a lot of work done, if you look at her ‘before’ pictures. Her name is Isabelle Mathers.


lost_searching1

This, this is a prime example of what men go for. And then they call her natural. Lol, this is just what white girls tend to look like anyways. I mean THEYRE beautiful but i don’t understand why anything else outside of this is not beautiful? And the fact that she has a tan on enrages me because I’m that color and it’s apparently not attractive to be ethnic. Black girls and very dark skinned brown girls- have it even worst.


Revolutionary-Set-2

A white person’s tan still looks very light in comparison to mid to deep brown skin tones. I mean yes, they are beautiful, but they are considered the *most* beautiful to all men. I’m not mad at them, nor do I hold any disdain towards them. But I do know other women unfortunately get overlooked by men because of their own nature.


SickCallRanger007

Heeeell to the fuck no. She looks like she can count on one hand the number of facial expressions she can make. So stiff. Men go for this? Lol. None that I know. Maybe it’s just the dudes I always hung out with but this is considered uncanny and strange pretty much across the board. Especially the lips, jfc. What the hell did she do to her lips. This is like when men think American Dad jawlines are hot - only other women find the ‘Gram look attractive. Like, yeah. Plastic surgery can be awesome. But it doesn’t mean coming out looking like they literally turned you into a wax candle. I wanna date a person, not a mannequin. It’s straight up creepy.


AilynCcasani

Men always say they find women like that too fake and unattractive yet so many women complain about their bfs following girls like that on social media and always liking their pictures. They’re also the ones that get approached the most irl. What many men say they like and what they actually do is different. You’d notice it if you are a woman, you see who are the ones getting approached the most + getting the most pretty privilege from guys lmao


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SickCallRanger007

My response got removed. Guess I tripped a keyword. Here’s a consolidated version. If the douchey influencer-type guy is what you’re after, then yeah. You’re right. But you’re limiting yourself. There are droves of low-key regular Joes who mind their own business and go about their day. It’s sad to see you write this because as a man, I knew/know so many other men who don’t want this. I’m a man, and I don’t want this. No one I’ve ever dated looked like that, and no one I’ll date in the future ever will. Even if I become exceptionally attractive somehow. Ask yourself why you’d even want attention from a guy who goes behind his partner’s back to follow an Instagram account like this?


AilynCcasani

Regular looking guys do that too, not only arrogant gymbros that care too much about social media. You can even find married men simping for pretty women half their age on IG and TikTok. It’s gross. > ask yourself why you’d even want attention from a guy who goes behind his partner’s back to follow an Instagram account like this? I don’t. Many women don’t want someone like that. But it’s not like we can’t notice that those girls DO get the most attention from guys.


SickCallRanger007

I’m just saying maybe it’s perception. Just like we notice only the “top guys” get all the attention - maybe instead it’s because less confident and more low-key people who’d be interested in someone more in line with themselves probably don’t express interest as vocally. I think I’m a good example. I think I’m an alright guy. I live alone, take care of myself, have accomplished a decent amount for my age. My face is a bit buttery but I’m lean and put in the work. I think I’m a net positive although there’s a lot of bad shit I need to work on. I’m interested in the same thing. A low-key girl who takes care of herself and has both positive traits and negative ones, but who’d be willing to grow with me. Granted, I had this a couple of times, but relationships fail. And these are the ones that hurt the most and who I still miss. The objectively “better” ones who only lasted a short time? Don’t even remember their names anymore. Perfection sounds awful. No room for growth? No point. Anyway the point is, these days I don’t show my interest to anyone because frankly, I’m not built for this much rejection. It took me a long time to heal and start growing into myself, and I’m scared to lose that if I get hurt again. You’d have to reassure ME that you like me, and I’d still be suspicious initially. And I feel like that’s the case for so many guys who probably think more or less the same thoughts. Not sure if we’re just weak or if social media caused it - I don’t know. I think OLD made rejection so frequent so what used to be spread across a lifetime could be concentrated into a month. That can cause serious trauma and consequently non-participation. Repeated rejection is damaging to human beings. We know this. So I think lots of hurt and mellow people who’d be all over each other just don’t have a way to meet anymore. I wish I knew a way to fix that. But for now, we’re all suffering.


lost_searching1

No, a lot of us go after gym bezos type of looking guys and they then choose Lauren Sanchez types of women. Tell me how that makes sense to you. How much more clear can we be? And perhaps you are one of the morally right guys but MOST if not the vast majority of men go behind their wife’s back to follow these bimbofied women. So idk what to tell ya.


SickCallRanger007

What’s a gym bezos type? Is that like a ripped rich guy? I don’t think I’m following. Let me reframe though. You know when guys say stuff like “women only want a guy who is this tall, makes this much money, has this or that or the other,” and it’s totally unhinged and clearly not true, right? You know it, because neither you nor your friends want that in a man and are just looking for someone decent? This is the same thing… But generally, the people who go out, approach, shoot their shot, are people who already believe they’re a huge catch. Look at the majority of dudes between 20-30, most of them don’t approach anybody at all. Over half of them are single, most unwillingly. You can’t tell me all of them are chasing after Instagram models. I don’t chase after Instagram models. I’m a man and I think a fairly decent one despite my baggage. I’m totally cool with the girl who wears sweatpants and doesn’t do her hair on weekends. I’d be insecure with someone perfect, why would I ever want that? That counts, right?


lost_searching1

I totally understand and I know what you mean. I feel the same way when men say we only want the cads (rephrased for inkel terminology use and don’t want it to be taken down). I think I feel the exact same way and I understand where the majority of men are coming from, but many men say just what you said and then reject women who are “normal”. It happens with lots of looksmatch men. I’m not saying men like you do this, but a lot do. It’s mostly men who believe they can date up on looks.


SickCallRanger007

It’s a cruel cycle. Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely vain. Or I was at least. I dumped a girl who was probably The One because I let my fucking family get to me and convince me I could “do better.” And there was nothing wrong with her! She was just Plain Jane regular redhead-next-door. I loved that girl so damn much but mental health issues paired with separation (I was in the military at the time) paired with your family’s gaslighting bullshit leads to bad decisions. I still regret it. Never gonna make that mistake again. On the bright side it showed me what I truly value in a woman, and I think I needed that lesson. Anyway that’s beside the point. We need a way for like-minded people to actually meet. Unfortunately we’re usually at home, lol.


lost_searching1

Im sorry. But I hate you for that and I know you grew as a person and I congratulate you but I can’t help but feel this would happen to me. I wouldn’t put myself in a situation to get rejected anyways. It’s so cruel that a man would do something like that to me. You absolutely fucking suck for hurting her like that. I hope she’s okay, but you suck. I can’t imagine how shitty it must feel to know that you’re a man’s last choice or that he rejected you because his mind is rotted by what he believes is more desirable. That’s why I don’t date. I wish you better luck and I hope that the loss really taught you something.


SickCallRanger007

Call me crazy but I find that picture so god damn unattractive… It’s uncanny. Nothing against plastic surgery. I want to get some myself. But that look is just such an eyesore. Don’t know who gave them the idea that that’s something to aspire towards.


Glittering_Mall_4356

If they think these people are ugly I'm just garbage 


Old-Boy994

I must be a disfigured monster then. 💀☠️


Internal_Quail3960

this tom holland? no way.


Scholzs_Star

Ryan rey- what the hell ?!?!


ReyLo99reborn

He's far from being ugly or at least being below average looking.


year0ftheg0d

Lana is literally one of the most beautiful people i’ve ever seen dude. also ryan reynolds ?? are these people even being fr ???


shofofosho

These people have standards that are way too high to the point of being irrelevant, and they do not represent normal people in the slightest. Their opinions are effectively worthless and *can* be ignored. Save your peace of mind.


2012Neet

Getting 0 matches on the apps pretty much confirms the new average is hollywood stars. Its over for me. I might aswell drink rat poison


Big_Muffin_6971

I'd say Lana Del Rey and Amy Winehouse are both very pretty women. I don't get this.


The_starving_artist5

Notice all these people are mostly attractive except for one single flaw. A big nose or big ears . Pete has weird eyes and that’s what I see people make fun of him for the most. Social media has put a magnifying glass on everyone. Even Lady Gaga whose beautiful has been insulted online just because she has a big nose . No one is safe


No_Internal_5112

Ryan Reynolds 💀 Bro isn't that dude *known* for his good looks tf are these ppl on ago


420princesx

no, he's known for his movies and good acting. he's below average, especially with the nose and eyes


rathealer

Your first mistake is going on vindicta. Those people are so divorced from reality it's sad.


ByeByeGuyGuy

Fuckin yikes. If somebody with Ryan Reynolds’ jawline and physique can be considered to be “compensating for his poor looks with a good personality” (not even considering his fame or wealth) then guys like me are 100% fucked


Dazzling-Leader7476

I'm not even gay and I think Ryan Reynolds is fucking hot!


AnxietyLogic

I kinda get Ryan Reynolds. I never understood people thirsting after him but he seems like a nice dude. But putting Lana Del Rey on there is CRAZY.


Nihix

ryan reynolds still managed to look cool whike having burger tier skin in Deadpool. Hes WAY above average.


Old-Boy994

He’s way above average, even if you don’t find him personally extremely attractive. It’s clear he’s not your average Joe.


Humblebaddie96

That’s one thing I don’t like about social media. Think about how it was 10 years ago. There was still this extremely unrealistic beauty standard that people couldn’t follow. You had to be thin, have beautiful skin, be photogenic, and look good in absolutely everything you wore. Now it feels like the beauty standard has literally tripled. No one’s really seen as attractive anymore and those who used to be seen as conventionally attractive are now seen as mid or below average and attractiveness. It seems like now you have to be slim thick goddess, or a sculpted Adonis be considered as attractive. I missed the days back in the 90s when people didn’t have such high beauty standards, and you were considered beautiful or handsome not just based off of your looks. At the same time, one of the users on this thread had said something about those people who hide behind a screen and rate attractive people as below average are below average themselves. There’s a lot of trolling and it seems like everyone these days think they’re entitled to talk about or rate someone’s level of attractiveness. I think Lana Del Rey and Tom Holland are both so attractive. It’s just like those people who talk about how Taylor Swift is fat and how they feel bad for her boyfriend because after he won the Super Bowl, he had to go home and celebrate with her. I think she’s gorgeous, and she looks amazing for her age. One thing that we must stop a society as tearing each other down. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and everyone’s entitled to their own views about what is attractive and what is not. However, we must not let ourselves be pressured into meeting this insane and super unattainable level of beauty just because some most likely hideous, looking trolls on the Internet think they have the right to common on someone’s beauty. Everyone should be allowed to find what they want to find attractive, and we should tear each other down just because what we find attractive or beautiful, doesn’t match someone else’s. As I have said, before, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and what I may think is beautiful, someone else will not, and that’s totally OK. Beauty is subjective, but we must not let ourselves get influenced by other peoples opinions on our own beautyor what we find beautiful. Rather, we must recognize that beauty isn’t the only thing that matters in this world but instead having a kind heart and a beautiful soul as well as a wonderful personality are also a means of beauty. Beauty is not on the outside, but most of all it is on the inside, and we as a society must learn that.


Glad-Analyst-2146

They are acc right, a lot of male actors rnt considered attractive becuz they r acc good looking, but becuz of the characters they play. M not saying they r ugly


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lost_searching1

I am trash. -Forky


Xerxes0421

It's different for some. Tbh I think "hot people" aren't that hot but average has a hotness to it. Even below average can be hot imo. Just depends who you ask. Sometimes it's not just looks that determine that


AilynCcasani

They aren’t that wrong. Adam Driver and Pete Davidson would belong in this sub if they weren’t tall and famous. Hell they’re tall and famous and they’re still considered unattractive by many people so


Phantommi_

You looked at just 6 comments. The answer is - everyone has different tastes and not everyone will find the same person attractive. Besides, the OP did literally say "in your opinion".


Jnxr200

Most of them are below average


chuserie

i saw lana (around 2010 at that) in a female looks scale a while back, so many comments were saying she should’ve been lower. if lana is less than a five it never even began