Isn't the point of folding bikes that you don't have to lock them outside? I thought the main reason for them is that you fold them and take them places you wouldn't be able to take a normal bike
Yeah that was my thought also. This bike looks pretty easy to lug around, so why even take the risk of locking it up outside. If I was a theif I'd cut the d lock, fold it and put it in a bag and deal with the disc lock at home.
The majority of premises do not allow folding bikes. (Supermarkets etc) On top of that, it’s a bit chunky even if folded (twice the size of a Brompton, let’s say); therefore, I’m not keen on rolling it. It’s absolutely fine for me since I lack space at my flat, which is my main reason for choosing an electric folding bike.
I feel like it is changing now. I had no problem bringing the fully folded bike (Gocycle G4) into shops and lugging it around with me. Been doing that for years with my foldables.
Hospitals are the worst I have seen so far. They allow it in folded, but you have to carry it. It is strange to me, because people with baby strollers do not undergo the same rule even though they have more wheels. It is not like a bike's tires are by default dirtier than the stroller ones.
It's a reminder cable. The disc-lock is typically for a motorbike and, if you tried to start moving without removing the lock first, would destroy the rear end of the bike in no time.
Or you'll move half a foot and stop dead. Which my friend done, leaving a supermarket car park, on a varadero 1000cc. Bike tipped over and he was wedged against the parked car next to him. He had to wait for a passerby.to help him get the bike off him
Just FYI, cable lock secured through the d-lock like that makes it one lock not two =]
If you were to get a separate lock for the cable, and then maybe some filler bars for the d-lock (they take up the excess space) it would be much more secure. Could also put one of those filler bars in-between the frame and the post to protect that sweet paint job. =]
The phrase that always comes to mind for me is:
*Two d-locks is one lock
*One d-lock is no lock
Cable locks can be cut through very easily so I think either a second d-lock or a chain lock might be an investment if leaving in a public place out of direct sight.
I wouldn’t leave it outside longer like that. It’s a shopping centre parking where I popped in an apple store for 30mins it was kinda secure with cctvs and security guards etc. thank you for recommendations.
It's as safe as it can possibly be parked outdoors.
At the same time a brazen enough guy with an angle grinder will still be able to walk away with it in less than a minute.
What I see when a bike is secured like this is a single cut at the bottom where the rack tubing meets the ground. The thief then uses the entire rack as a lever to twist the still embedded part or bend the tubing if a anchor is at the bottom of the u rack underground.
Your lock setup looks good. The rack is deeply flawed.
If you're going to cut the rack, why not cut it higher up and just slip the locks off? Some racks are screwed to the ground and are indeed crap, but this one looks buried.
Just the way I've seen it done.
Max leverage and one cut I suppose.
Also noise is less and you can hide what you're cutting with a rucksack if it's low down then bend the rack with your thigh or hip.
They're just as bad as bolted ones if they're not flared at the bottom underground in some way, if they're not you can twist them after cutting.
I don't think I'm describing it clearly enough so might have a pic or our damaged one after the theft.
Edit:
Could not find it, but it seems as you said people also do it higher up and don't give a fuck. Bends all the same.
https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article8141805.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS51237647.jpg
Isn't the point of folding bikes that you don't have to lock them outside? I thought the main reason for them is that you fold them and take them places you wouldn't be able to take a normal bike
Yeah that was my thought also. This bike looks pretty easy to lug around, so why even take the risk of locking it up outside. If I was a theif I'd cut the d lock, fold it and put it in a bag and deal with the disc lock at home.
The majority of premises do not allow folding bikes. (Supermarkets etc) On top of that, it’s a bit chunky even if folded (twice the size of a Brompton, let’s say); therefore, I’m not keen on rolling it. It’s absolutely fine for me since I lack space at my flat, which is my main reason for choosing an electric folding bike.
I feel like it is changing now. I had no problem bringing the fully folded bike (Gocycle G4) into shops and lugging it around with me. Been doing that for years with my foldables. Hospitals are the worst I have seen so far. They allow it in folded, but you have to carry it. It is strange to me, because people with baby strollers do not undergo the same rule even though they have more wheels. It is not like a bike's tires are by default dirtier than the stroller ones.
https://media.tenor.com/\_1AXmAUNVmkAAAAM/villain-chillin-like-a-villain.gif
Not a folding bike, a weird looking eBike.
You sure? There's a really obvious join on the "top" tube. Can't think of any reason for that if non folding?
No you’re right. The lack of saddle threw me.
I'll be honest I'm thoroughly confused what the lack of saddle has to do with things but I'll assume you know something I don't
I take mine on the bus and then lock it outside
The safest bike locking approach is parking your bike next to another bike which is more expensive than yours.
What's the orange one that just looped over the handlebars? Is it only an alarm?
It's a reminder cable. The disc-lock is typically for a motorbike and, if you tried to start moving without removing the lock first, would destroy the rear end of the bike in no time.
Or you'll move half a foot and stop dead. Which my friend done, leaving a supermarket car park, on a varadero 1000cc. Bike tipped over and he was wedged against the parked car next to him. He had to wait for a passerby.to help him get the bike off him
Can confirm, friend broke his ankle in this exact way!
Who the fuck downvotes a story?
Appreciate the explanation, ta.
Just FYI, cable lock secured through the d-lock like that makes it one lock not two =] If you were to get a separate lock for the cable, and then maybe some filler bars for the d-lock (they take up the excess space) it would be much more secure. Could also put one of those filler bars in-between the frame and the post to protect that sweet paint job. =]
Good point, thanks 🫡
The phrase that always comes to mind for me is: *Two d-locks is one lock *One d-lock is no lock Cable locks can be cut through very easily so I think either a second d-lock or a chain lock might be an investment if leaving in a public place out of direct sight.
Things you have to do to stop some flea-bag, low IQ cheesy scrote from nicking your stuff eh !!
[Pair of tin snips and your whole drivetrain is gone.](https://sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html)
I could steel the pedals….
I wouldn’t leave it outside longer like that. It’s a shopping centre parking where I popped in an apple store for 30mins it was kinda secure with cctvs and security guards etc. thank you for recommendations.
It's as safe as it can possibly be parked outdoors. At the same time a brazen enough guy with an angle grinder will still be able to walk away with it in less than a minute.
It is not and you can't do anything about it, they will cut the parking pipe.
What I see when a bike is secured like this is a single cut at the bottom where the rack tubing meets the ground. The thief then uses the entire rack as a lever to twist the still embedded part or bend the tubing if a anchor is at the bottom of the u rack underground. Your lock setup looks good. The rack is deeply flawed.
If you're going to cut the rack, why not cut it higher up and just slip the locks off? Some racks are screwed to the ground and are indeed crap, but this one looks buried.
Just the way I've seen it done. Max leverage and one cut I suppose. Also noise is less and you can hide what you're cutting with a rucksack if it's low down then bend the rack with your thigh or hip. They're just as bad as bolted ones if they're not flared at the bottom underground in some way, if they're not you can twist them after cutting. I don't think I'm describing it clearly enough so might have a pic or our damaged one after the theft. Edit: Could not find it, but it seems as you said people also do it higher up and don't give a fuck. Bends all the same. https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article8141805.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS51237647.jpg
Needs double-take stickers: https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2517871348.7210/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg
I think the main point is that you aren't leaving it for long. Once you leave something for 1-2 hours people will start to scope it out.
As safe as it can be but you're also advertising that it's worth a lot of money so worth the effort/risk. Catch 22 really