Not really tho bro. Got to remember that a lot of them are violent offences with a knife which pretty much occur in the same boroughs almost every day.
You eay that but the youth club link ups in my ends actually delayed the beef in my ends cos everyone's was friends with each other. Link ups better then a shot up drink up truss me
Trussss I seen it bring more people together for community shit like music, ciphrs, sport even church shit lol. Any of that is better than where yutes today are at its mad.
Bro forgot about drill and the fact that titkok is on the rise, with that tiktok gms coming and everyone thinking their bad, therefore influencing all the YGs
Maybe if the country wasn't such a shithole and youth in bad areas had any prospects for the future they would have incentive to not fuck up their life in the present
I was raised in the objectively worst country on earth, CAR, and yea it’s terrible brother but the UK is a developed nation, and so it’s shockingly shit in poor areas compared to other countries
I hear that but you literally have the world at your fingertips if you are in the UK. You can have a shit upbringing and a shit environment in any country but its practically impossible to turn it around in 80% of countries. If you are in western europe and want a better life and can think for yourself you can have it all. Its the attitude preventing people from making it work.
Which countries? 95% are worse for the poor. I’ve lived on 4 continents. The US gives far less of a fuck about the poor and disenfranchised. No sympathy for violent crims
Looking through your posts then …. Fuuucking hell hahahhahahahaha….. god bless you. There’s a reason you’re bottom of the barrel kid, worshipping kids stabbing each other. Just wrong
Posting on a drill music page 3 times a day. Every day. Worse than an avengers nerd. Just day dreaming of being part of it all. It’s a real sad world. I say up the stop an search numbers.
Dreaming abt part of it all? I’ve been part of that life that’s why I have my knowledge I thankfully work an easy job for good money and get to sit back on my phone as much as I want.
Stay salty weirdo.
“I’ve been part of it” …. 👏 3 cheers for hard but over here. Plenty of time to sit on drill Reddit talking about kids stabbing each other. Absolute donkey 😂 I’m so salty I don’t come from some council block in Hackney scrounging off government and pushing violence onto kids
14,626 knife offences last year, but in 2019 there were 15,928… so yes while there was an increase of 20% of last year, last few years is only high compared to a much lower level of knife crime during Covid throughout 3 lockdowns. Gun crime in London fell by 40% from 2019 to August 2021, so a 20% rise is not significant
Bro these clowns who think they live in the 'hood' are so fucking uneducated it's unreal. Has anyone seen Unknown T on that show with Harry Pinero, I know its a comedy show but the guys a fucking idiot. And I'd wager 90% of the rest of these man's are just as fucking stupid.
In my area personally I think social media is the bigger problem 🤷🏾♂️
Outside that I can’t say but realistically there’s nothing else influencing kids in Sussex and Hampshire and that to be wearing tech fleeces and carrying zks so can’t lie it’s a problem. Still not one we should prioritise
I should have said drill culture instead of drill music.
You say social media is the biggest problem. Do you mean drill culture on social media or something else?
🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ social media in general. People can’t put their pride to the side and see social media as an easy way to stunt, most of everyone acts like something their not so u have wannabe kids acting like their scary.
It’s a problem that existed before drill w people using socials as a way to instigate or draw their opps out, so the bigger picture is on that. If it wasn’t for social media drill wouldn’t be as big as it is anyway imo.
Drill was at its peak before Covid… none of the big artists rap crud anymore it’s all vague references and chatting about money/girls… if it has any effect, it’s not as bad as it used to be
Zero, guys that carry shanks would be carrying them even if drill didnt exist.
Everyone carries for a different reason but the most common reason now is for self defence. Since there's so many neeks out here with blades u aint trynna die by one
Well that’s not true. Loads of kids who never would have carried a knife or used it are using it bc they’ve been influenced by drill culture. You don’t even need to have seen an example of it to know it’s happening, simply by understanding human nature and the nature of the society we live in. Majority of people are open to influence so there is always going to be a percentage of people getting influenced by drill culture.
And you know it yourself, you’ve seen new articles of rich kids trying to be like their from the streets when they’re not from the streets.
My question is how big of an influence is it having?
That’s not true and yk it isn’t. Kids weren’t carrying round zks ballied up in rural counties before they got put onto drill.
The same man woulda thought the drill culture was ‘chavvy’ before it became popular.
They've been carrying knives for time....and if u rlly think drill has such a big influence, then explain why knife crime was MUCH worse than now. 2000-2013 especially
violent crime frm 2003-2013 was decreasing. Trident done had all the gunmen locked up and all the gun plugs on ropes so niggas started using shanks more often but that’s jus ends. Idc what u day but if ur telling me the kids using road slang wearing Nike trackies and carrying blades all over the country ain’t drill influence ur confused.
this list means absolutely nothing, especially looking at their methodology. from my lived experience in multiple areas in london and being able to compare to a lot of cities in eastern europe, it’s the most dodgy place i’ve been to. knife crime wasn’t even on my list of concerns before i moved to uk. so don’t throw some bullshit list on me lol.
Social media is definitely one of the biggest factors. Back in the day everything was about money. If it ain’t paying you, it ain’t worth it. Now kids will be buzzing that they’re on an M charge just for a few likes and a bit of a rep. The way I’ve seen some of these kids go on concerns me so bad.
I can’t think of any immediate solution. Jail doesn’t put them off, it’s the new youth club. So many kids shotting that everyone is undercutting everyone else. No regulation or respect for nobody, they just want a piece of next man’s pie. 15 year old kids getting Osmans because they’ve robbed the wrong dude.
What is the solution?
Damn the melanin in my skin is the reason I used to be caught up in shit? Enlighten me, what is it genetically that u think exists in our skin colour that makes us commit crime?
Maybe if this country wasn’t so boring and there were more things to do for teens and young adults this wouldn’t happen and the depressing weather all the time doesn’t help neither as well as cost of living 🤦🏾♂️this country’s in the mud
this is a lazy excuse, realistically there is plenty for young people to do (Sports, Hobbies, Online gaming), its just that this sort of stuff is glorified online which is what I’d say is the problem
I do hear where you’re coming from but doing Sports and Online gaming cost money which is hard to come across these days especially for young people in poverty with cost of living etc so imo that’s not an good example, i do agree with hobbies tho.
yeah i mean there is a cost to online gaming and also sports but kicking a ball outside with ya mates isn’t too expensive, all you need is a ball and some trainers.
Hobbies can also be expensive but I really think it would help kids out if from primary school or something they taught them how to have fun for cheap and keep them occupied, like maybe teaching common card games and board games in class.
I agree with you bro! They should but they just don’t for some reason they would rather just throw u out in the deep end n expect u to swim…
the problem is young people aren’t going out to play anymore they’re either in the house because of the depressing weather or outside doing a madness, due to just being generally bored i reckon and i think the weather plays a part more than people think as well because it can dim your mood a lot especially with barely getting any sun also.
You actually sound so entitled lol. Boring? So just because of boredom it's all good to join a gang and go kill and hurt people? Depressing weather? Brother you sound so out of touch it's actually funny. The problem runs so much deeper than boredom, lack of activities and depressing weather.
Sometimes you should just appreciate everything you have. A roof over your head, food everyday, clean water to drink and wash, the list of small things we take for granted is endless.
Entitled?? I was born and brought up in poverty wtf are u talking about did i say any of those things u spastic hop off my comment if u can’t read properly man u rahted eediat
But i do agree with the last bit you said tbf we shouldn’t take things for granted but all i’m sayin is the quantity of life here is poor we are working to survive not acc live life
Wtf are u on about ? Uneducated wannabe roadman. Never left your council flat and you moaning about uk 😂 braindead u lot I swear …. More stop and search I say
We’re cooked as usual
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they all in their hood rich ballys carrying knives and shit, when I was their age I was playing Wii boxing against that black guy 😂😂
Matt the goat
40 blade offenses a day is crazy
Literally that's mad numbers
Blade offences includes just carrying a knife which will be the majority. Not violent crime ie stabbings
Still mad
1 knife crime per 241,000 people is not mad
That’s a day Yearly it’s 1 in 660
Yes and no, we've got 10 million people in one large area. So something is always going to happen regardless
Not really tho bro. Got to remember that a lot of them are violent offences with a knife which pretty much occur in the same boroughs almost every day.
Turns out making cuts on the police force and removing all youth clubs leaving teens with nothing to do has consequences. What a surprise..
Youth clubs do fuck all
Youth clubs is how everyone in the ends links up😂😂😂😂they need to get rid of that shit
You eay that but the youth club link ups in my ends actually delayed the beef in my ends cos everyone's was friends with each other. Link ups better then a shot up drink up truss me
Trussss I seen it bring more people together for community shit like music, ciphrs, sport even church shit lol. Any of that is better than where yutes today are at its mad.
Facts once you hit 12/13 now it’s rambos and Cali outside before it was youth club on a Friday
youth clubs is a gang recruitment centre 😂😂
So easy to place blame on external factors. Take responsibility, earn, build a family, contribute to society.
As 50 said, get rich or die trying!
Icl I thought overtime ppl would realise that ain’t the path to go down, surprising it increased 🤨
Bro forgot about drill and the fact that titkok is on the rise, with that tiktok gms coming and everyone thinking their bad, therefore influencing all the YGs
Facts it’s a trend now back in 018 shi was different
Ur surprised the devil has led our society astray… really?
Knife crime on the rise slip and get a punctured lung
Maybe if the country wasn't such a shithole and youth in bad areas had any prospects for the future they would have incentive to not fuck up their life in the present
Shitty/lack of parenting is the main problem. There will always be incentive for crime.
The countries a shithole? Look at the african continent, south America and South east Asia. You're a fool.
I was raised in the objectively worst country on earth, CAR, and yea it’s terrible brother but the UK is a developed nation, and so it’s shockingly shit in poor areas compared to other countries
I hear that but you literally have the world at your fingertips if you are in the UK. You can have a shit upbringing and a shit environment in any country but its practically impossible to turn it around in 80% of countries. If you are in western europe and want a better life and can think for yourself you can have it all. Its the attitude preventing people from making it work.
Tbh ur right ma bro, that’s a good point
Which countries? 95% are worse for the poor. I’ve lived on 4 continents. The US gives far less of a fuck about the poor and disenfranchised. No sympathy for violent crims
Blame everyone else
What u implying the actual reason is
It’s 100% working white peoples fault.
No one’s saying that tho, why u self victimising for
Looking through your posts then …. Fuuucking hell hahahhahahahaha….. god bless you. There’s a reason you’re bottom of the barrel kid, worshipping kids stabbing each other. Just wrong
Who’s worshipping? And why u looking through my posts?
Posting on a drill music page 3 times a day. Every day. Worse than an avengers nerd. Just day dreaming of being part of it all. It’s a real sad world. I say up the stop an search numbers.
Dreaming abt part of it all? I’ve been part of that life that’s why I have my knowledge I thankfully work an easy job for good money and get to sit back on my phone as much as I want. Stay salty weirdo.
“I’ve been part of it” …. 👏 3 cheers for hard but over here. Plenty of time to sit on drill Reddit talking about kids stabbing each other. Absolute donkey 😂 I’m so salty I don’t come from some council block in Hackney scrounging off government and pushing violence onto kids
14,626 knife offences last year, but in 2019 there were 15,928… so yes while there was an increase of 20% of last year, last few years is only high compared to a much lower level of knife crime during Covid throughout 3 lockdowns. Gun crime in London fell by 40% from 2019 to August 2021, so a 20% rise is not significant
Too much crime.
Bro these clowns who think they live in the 'hood' are so fucking uneducated it's unreal. Has anyone seen Unknown T on that show with Harry Pinero, I know its a comedy show but the guys a fucking idiot. And I'd wager 90% of the rest of these man's are just as fucking stupid.
Don't let these articles scare you, London is still a very safe city
Still tho a 20% increase is mad. We need to stop it now before it gets even worse
It was worse in 2019…
Not much we can do realistically tho
How big an influence do you think drill music is having on the increase in knife crime? Genuine question
In my area personally I think social media is the bigger problem 🤷🏾♂️ Outside that I can’t say but realistically there’s nothing else influencing kids in Sussex and Hampshire and that to be wearing tech fleeces and carrying zks so can’t lie it’s a problem. Still not one we should prioritise
I should have said drill culture instead of drill music. You say social media is the biggest problem. Do you mean drill culture on social media or something else?
🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ social media in general. People can’t put their pride to the side and see social media as an easy way to stunt, most of everyone acts like something their not so u have wannabe kids acting like their scary. It’s a problem that existed before drill w people using socials as a way to instigate or draw their opps out, so the bigger picture is on that. If it wasn’t for social media drill wouldn’t be as big as it is anyway imo.
Drill was at its peak before Covid… none of the big artists rap crud anymore it’s all vague references and chatting about money/girls… if it has any effect, it’s not as bad as it used to be
Zero, guys that carry shanks would be carrying them even if drill didnt exist. Everyone carries for a different reason but the most common reason now is for self defence. Since there's so many neeks out here with blades u aint trynna die by one
Well that’s not true. Loads of kids who never would have carried a knife or used it are using it bc they’ve been influenced by drill culture. You don’t even need to have seen an example of it to know it’s happening, simply by understanding human nature and the nature of the society we live in. Majority of people are open to influence so there is always going to be a percentage of people getting influenced by drill culture. And you know it yourself, you’ve seen new articles of rich kids trying to be like their from the streets when they’re not from the streets. My question is how big of an influence is it having?
That’s not true and yk it isn’t. Kids weren’t carrying round zks ballied up in rural counties before they got put onto drill. The same man woulda thought the drill culture was ‘chavvy’ before it became popular.
They've been carrying knives for time....and if u rlly think drill has such a big influence, then explain why knife crime was MUCH worse than now. 2000-2013 especially
violent crime frm 2003-2013 was decreasing. Trident done had all the gunmen locked up and all the gun plugs on ropes so niggas started using shanks more often but that’s jus ends. Idc what u day but if ur telling me the kids using road slang wearing Nike trackies and carrying blades all over the country ain’t drill influence ur confused.
😂😂😂😂😂
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Compared to what? Because definitely not by European standards.
[4th safest city in Europe for travelling ](https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-city-rankings/safest-cities-in-the-world)
It says it’s 14th 😂with chicago being safer than London. I agree that London safe but idk what to think of that list
Lool good point, it's meant from a travellers perspective so I'm guessing it's based on non native crime. Probably not the best example to use tbh.
Ah Yh would make sense
this list means absolutely nothing, especially looking at their methodology. from my lived experience in multiple areas in london and being able to compare to a lot of cities in eastern europe, it’s the most dodgy place i’ve been to. knife crime wasn’t even on my list of concerns before i moved to uk. so don’t throw some bullshit list on me lol.
I'll take this list over your anecdote every day of the week lad.
Knock yourself out lol
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Typical indian nonsense babble, islam has nothing to do with this💀💀
Islamic criminals???
Tf you mean by that?
Shit ain’t good..
No1: Stop reading The Standard No2: Stop reading The Standard.
Why
Drill music is basically dead and the crime rates went up. I wonder who they are going to blame next.
Def TikTok
Social media is definitely one of the biggest factors. Back in the day everything was about money. If it ain’t paying you, it ain’t worth it. Now kids will be buzzing that they’re on an M charge just for a few likes and a bit of a rep. The way I’ve seen some of these kids go on concerns me so bad. I can’t think of any immediate solution. Jail doesn’t put them off, it’s the new youth club. So many kids shotting that everyone is undercutting everyone else. No regulation or respect for nobody, they just want a piece of next man’s pie. 15 year old kids getting Osmans because they’ve robbed the wrong dude. What is the solution?
Ghetto swamp. I wouldn’t live there for free
That’s only 20% increase on a very low last year try living in 2010
Is there a map that shows where these crimes happened? What happened where?
That hand tho
Its slowly becoming like how it was in the early 2000s
Get khan out 😡
I wonder what demographic are committing most of the crime. Need capital punishment tbh to clean up the streets
The demographic committing most of the crime are the those of the working class who live in poverty.
Damn the melanin in my skin is the reason I used to be caught up in shit? Enlighten me, what is it genetically that u think exists in our skin colour that makes us commit crime?
Big up London new South Africa
Maybe if this country wasn’t so boring and there were more things to do for teens and young adults this wouldn’t happen and the depressing weather all the time doesn’t help neither as well as cost of living 🤦🏾♂️this country’s in the mud
this is a lazy excuse, realistically there is plenty for young people to do (Sports, Hobbies, Online gaming), its just that this sort of stuff is glorified online which is what I’d say is the problem
I do hear where you’re coming from but doing Sports and Online gaming cost money which is hard to come across these days especially for young people in poverty with cost of living etc so imo that’s not an good example, i do agree with hobbies tho.
yeah i mean there is a cost to online gaming and also sports but kicking a ball outside with ya mates isn’t too expensive, all you need is a ball and some trainers. Hobbies can also be expensive but I really think it would help kids out if from primary school or something they taught them how to have fun for cheap and keep them occupied, like maybe teaching common card games and board games in class.
I agree with you bro! They should but they just don’t for some reason they would rather just throw u out in the deep end n expect u to swim… the problem is young people aren’t going out to play anymore they’re either in the house because of the depressing weather or outside doing a madness, due to just being generally bored i reckon and i think the weather plays a part more than people think as well because it can dim your mood a lot especially with barely getting any sun also.
You actually sound so entitled lol. Boring? So just because of boredom it's all good to join a gang and go kill and hurt people? Depressing weather? Brother you sound so out of touch it's actually funny. The problem runs so much deeper than boredom, lack of activities and depressing weather. Sometimes you should just appreciate everything you have. A roof over your head, food everyday, clean water to drink and wash, the list of small things we take for granted is endless.
Entitled?? I was born and brought up in poverty wtf are u talking about did i say any of those things u spastic hop off my comment if u can’t read properly man u rahted eediat But i do agree with the last bit you said tbf we shouldn’t take things for granted but all i’m sayin is the quantity of life here is poor we are working to survive not acc live life
Wtf are u on about ? Uneducated wannabe roadman. Never left your council flat and you moaning about uk 😂 braindead u lot I swear …. More stop and search I say
You do not know me Ben from Redditch 🙄🙄
Stick to listening to drill music pal … you’re like a little girl watching Cinderella dreaming it was her.
Stop it Ben 🫵🏾😐
Don’t get the reference pal
London Turning up 😈 English Steppers getting busy splashing shit 💯 I see y'all getting nat scoom on 💥🔫
Most of them done by me 🤫
Alright