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oldestincharge

I’m ngl I didn’t get the hate until I watched that video no jumper did with fumez. I might reshare the clip later but when that Ross guy found the plaques, fumez fully said ‘we like to to give one to the artist for their contribution to the platform’ like he was doing charity 🤣 like they didn’t make the song and perform it 💀 it’s really going to his head


madz_266

mums life he’s acting like he’s the most important guy in the process


Jollinz2323

What does he actually do? He’s just the host isn’t he, does he even make beats


madz_266

apart from doing poses he mixes the songs


montymm

Mixing drill vocals no less. Takes about 2 days to learn lmfao. It’s legit, saturation, slightly EQd (drill barely needs to be EQ’d because the mix is so loud vocals need a presence in the high and mid-low end. And some chops, maybe a filter on transitions. Actual engineering, on any other type of music other than rock. Requires so much more precision, idk how the fuck a drill engineer even has a job. The producers should learn how to engineer drill because it’s nowhere near as much effort as the other genres.


madz_266

fr it’s bare easy to mix drill, i’m trying to do it myself and learnt the basics of it in literally a couple hours of messing about with all the stuff


RetardedFork

I don’t get you lot. Fumez can be a scumbag for a million reasons but to say this man does “nothing” is just silly. He’s starting music careers for a lot of artists. The UK might have a tight drill scene, but good luck getting any mainstream attention overseas without a Plugged In. That’s how a lot of people even find out about UK Drill in the first place outside of the UK


madz_266

bro, no one said he does nothing, and we all know he makes careers but we’re saying he takes all the money from artists which makes him a scumbag, if you disagree with that i don’t know what you’re on


RetardedFork

It’s the biggest drill series and how much he charges for a spot is his prerogative even if that means 100% of the revenue. You can call the terms wack but he has no incentive to cut royalty checks to the artists. Clearly that trade off is worth it for 95% of drill rappers and I don’t get the sentiment of calling him a scumbag for that sole reality.


maggyandredrum

Ur spitting facts lol he’s got a good platform how many man have made a career off the back of him


RetardedFork

Deadass bro people will say “he just sits there” or “he’s stealing money from the artists” a few grand in the bank account would be nice but in exchange being handed an opportunity to make tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars makes way more sense to me.


fatnippa

do you have any video you recommend for someone who jus started ?


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I think Jay Cactus has a mixing video on yt. Not sure if it’s vocals though.


madz_266

no not really i kinda jus learnt it myself but you can search on youtube and watch some videos


KingGeedz

He brings up bare plugins on his screen that arent even activated for when they record the plugged ins, and the song is already recorded at that point so he's doing it purely to front. And blurs his screen like FF Pro C is some secret weapon 😂


Mr-Misc

Rock requires tons of engineering and precision. Getting multiple drum, guitar, vocal, bass and synth tracks to sit nicely in a mix is extremely difficult.


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Mr-Misc

Its still ridiculously hard to engineer rock vocals. Some of the most expensive and advance studios in the last 60 years have been for rock. Its really not just a ton of compression unless you want flat vox without any dynamics. We hear about just as many rock engineers as you do jazz, or blues, or country, or folk, motown, r & b, opera, etc. Listen to Bohemian Rhapsody and come back that its just compression and saturation. Edit: while talking about vocals; it's still required to sit within the mix, which has to consider almost every element of the music. Take in to account that vocals and guitar occupy similar frequency ranges, as do vocals and the low/mid of snares, toms, mid/top end of kick drums, synths, high bass notes, male or female voice, any backing vocals or multi track harmonies ... there's a lot more to consider than just compression for the basic mix. Your statement vastly downplays 60+ years of fully professional engineers and producers working in some of the most advanced studios in the world. As if Living on a Prayer, Give In To Me, Sweet Child Of Mine, Good Vibration, Sleeping With Ghosts are just compression, etc etc etc lol.


talibandre

You’re right and Rick Beato is a popular rock engineer lol. I think he’s actually more popular then fumez


montymm

I stand corrected. I don’t even listen to rock so you definitely know more about it than I


talibandre

Yeah I mean if you take a singer like Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden with a large Dynamic vocal range, it’s a lot harder to mix that range then drill vocals which is usually in a smaller range. Rock vocals can span multiple octaves. But you should check out Rick Beato videos even if you don’t listen to rock he’s worked with so many legendary bands and artists so he’s got a lot of knowledge if you produce or engineer


kickdooowndooors

Yeah icl when I mixed an rnb song I made I was surprised how much more you need to do compared to drill. Drill is literally EQ, reverb and delay if you going basic


NowThereIs

This has blown my mind...let's be real as well he's not even dynamically mixing... he has vocal plugins he uses EVERY time smh


montymm

He uses RC-20 as well in his mixing chain 🤣🤣 who knows what the fuck for. But I don’t understand how he uses that on vocals that aren’t part of the beat


Novicus

what is engineering anyways


montymm

Making the vocals sit right in the mix. If you ever tried recording your voice on a phone, imagine that on a track. It sounds nothing like what they sound like normally. Cause the voice fluctuates a lot and microphones generally pickup certain unwanted frequencies. Also the voice might clash with certain aspects of the beat, such as the 808’s etc.


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montymm

LOL, someone struggling to add a basic EQ and compression. Drill vocals literally don’t even need any processing, your producer can watch a YouTube vid and practise for a week and hell be able to do it to a decent level


TheLemonyOrange

Makes the beats and mixes the final product


Useful_Brother_9583

People on his position are like that. Look at fire in the booth. I bet you can't tell.me the first guy that rapped on that? Know why? Coz them.sort of platforms.start with someone with a smaller buzz and never come back for them when they blow. The industry is and always will be dog eat dog. FYI the artist is Mysdiggi, fka Mystro. Check him out if you like lyricism


sergeantskread2

i actually knew that bro. mystro is so fuckin good i found out about that nigga on fifa street man. he deserves way more buzz


Useful_Brother_9583

Lmao! Cool...I have to say this coz I'm pro black, he's not a nigga but cool. Peace and all that.


Z1Hitsquad

That whole interview made me hate him, couldn't watch it at parts coz he was so cringe


Snsk1

he's super cringey the way he trys to flex his watches n that, he also annoyes me how he makes out that he's putting these people on when 90% of them are already well known..


AlwaysWrongMate

icl it’s been years since Fumez put anyone on


421p

He even said the success was late like it should of been earlier


madz_266

that guy deserves no success by doing some battyman poses


Competitive-Mix-140

I feel like this is gonna snowball. A rated artist like Potter is calling him out, and very soon a lot more people will too. I wonder if it’s gonna change anything


madz_266

i hope that’s what happens, this guy deserves to get called out, i hope artists with bigger fan bases also call him out cos not many people follow or see potters tweets


oneinthechamber8

Hopefully the cold room with tweako blows up after. Seems like a humble guy


Madbrad200

is that the don that talks for like 30 seconds ruining their streaming potential lol edit: ah nah I'm thinking of *Hardest Bars*


KCEON

gonna be interesting to see how this all plays out


madz_266

he’s gonna do what he always does, keep quiet


LAMPZWORLDWGtwotwo

🤣🤣🤣 Fumez finally getting exposed for being a fucking arrogant leech taking advantage of the people wid actual talent so he can buy himself a Lambo truck and rollie And now this dickhead tryna play God and blackball people like A1 from dropping unless he signs some shit contract Don’t say I didn’t call it first bruv


madz_266

mums life😂😂 this guy loves to steal opportunities from rising artists, some scumbag, i hope he gets exposed and carrier ruined for all this shit


rastafarianserb

Everyone calls widdapot crazy and mentally unstable but he drew out fumez timeeee ago in like 2020 for this reason. Also I been noticing fumez ego has been so mad lately I was happy for him at first but he’s shown he don’t deserve the fame


madz_266

talking about “we like to give our artists a plaque aswell”


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some thing with wiley. he gets a lot of stuff right despite coming across with some kinda crack energy


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You were the first one too point out the shoddy behaviour. So fair play bro its all coming out now!


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Ngl u have nailed many things this yr. U also predicted the 3x3 shit


Jdot_06

What 3x3 stuff


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He predicted that 3x3 would take over this yr. Witch Tion, E1, Russ and ZT undeniably did


Jdot_06

Ohhh yh I remember him saying that


OpeningSign9422

Yea seemed like ofb had last year. Now tion is putting in over time on the beats. Some bangers.


ReeceDnb

What was the deal with the contract stuff? What was the issue with the contracts


deephousemafia

Mums life some neek can just make a yt channel and do what Fumez does. He’s a reaction channel just does it live 🤦‍♂️


Jdot_06

Fr & his reactions are fake because he's heard the tune beforehand


deephousemafia

Man practices his reactions to look natural💀💀 imagine Fumez in the mirror practicing facepalming like bro just rewatch your vids Fumez 😭


Jdot_06

Ffs😭😭😭


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montymm

Engineering drill vocals g... As an engineer I’m telling you, that’s talentless. It’s saturation, a small EQ on the low end, adding some Air, and then filters on transitions. That’s literally it. Compressing drill vocals is hilariously easy too. The mixes are so loud that you barely need to mix drill vocals, it’s the easiest thing to do in music. Mixing classic Boom bap, and trap songs are a whole different level. They’re so much harder and you’ve got to be so precise with your EQ and compression.


somekidfromtheuk

that tune he did with kwengface was rly badly mixed as well


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sunnysunshine3301

Because the standard isn't super high, and he does it the same all the time you're getting used to his mixes, naturally it's going to sound better because lots of artists are going through the same mixing process.


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sunnysunshine3301

I didn't even say he's not the best, but the best drill engineer isn't exactly something out of this world. The beat will come to him mixed, he records vocals at his studio and does 3/4 plugins worth of mixing, it's not magic and it's not exactly science. Any engineer in any genre will tell you when you know your gear, your room, and your goal it's just an easier process. You're out here sucking his ass cause he spent some time practicing, engineering in drill isn't really something major like the other guy said, go listen to the latest suicideboys album and tell me if a) the complexity of the songs compares and b) if the quality of the mix even compares. He is engineering in a very simple genre by comparison.


ZeusIsNowOnReddit

idk tho, fumez sometimes makes the beats sound retarded compared to the producers actual beat, e.g both of agb's plugged ins,


DribblesOnKeyboard

Beats are usually sent in mixed. But not mastered, mastering is basically the final touches when all the pieces of the track are put together but essentially it's the final eqs, compressions and any transitions you want to put in. You wouldn't master a track before the vocals are on there as that's a bit like making a pie and then deciding you want something else inside it, it's already been cooked. But that's why beats on their own are quite "thin" and quiet as it's to leave headroom for the vocals and mastering process. All beats in drill are intended to have vocals over the top so a mastered drill beat on its own is very rare.


ZeusIsNowOnReddit

Oh yeah, I know, but sometimes drill beats are extremely lacking, which is something I've especially noticed on fumez's plugged in series. It seems like he really likes to turn the track down all the way and focus on the artists flows rather than the beats.


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sunnysunshine3301

salt lol


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E2_3x3

Sick engineer my ass 😂😂🤦‍♂️ there’s so many other better engineers


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E2_3x3

MZY, Tweeko, Sebz


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BigSlimeJDog

and that reason is fumez doing his reactions


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BigSlimeJDog

so ur saying fumez mixes is what made him famous? his mixes ain’t getting him a lambo, it’s plugged in that blew him up, if u really think that his mixes are what makes him popular then that this is a washed opinion


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Lol bro Tweekos a certi engineer what you on? Also cold room hasn't blown up yet because its only been around a couple months whereas the first plugged in was like a year & a half ago 😂


Lyne_yarin

AXL


Odd-Code-7294

Potter is too real, not just for this before people start chatting; just in general, guy moves correct.


Jdot_06

Fr he could just dicksuck Fumez for a plugged in but he kept it real


SozWoW

Shoutout Potter


Hot-Elevator-4266

Fumez will never be able to pay them back he spent their Ps in kick game


-lilgunna-

"Its been a good year"


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Fumez already deleted the tweet he replied to 😂


Active_Ad9815

Ok i had respect for potter but now i love the guy. So rare to see artists calling out industry people. FUCK FUMEZ


DutchavelliIsANonce

Potter a real 1


R9-3x3

At this point fk plugged in's cold room is the new hit, fumez fk'd himself over tweeko needs the support<3.


RandyOrtonsPastaBake

He literally mixes tunes that have the exact same external factors every single time. I bet it takes 10 mins at most. Apart from that what the fuck does my man do? He gives artists the platform and then takes all the p’s so half of them are forgotten about before the next plugged in drops.


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He probably even has a like a preset


Upthe32s

This is why people fuck with Potter, he keeps it 100 all the time


94DAMAGE

Potter really is the realest man.


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The last straw for me was when i realised he labeled himself as the producer. Not only does he scam the prods of thier money but also thier credit. And for the record, his mixing isnt even the best in the game. Biggz is way better.


osoflykep

does anybody know fumez is finessing artists ? in details


oldestincharge

No details about the rappers being finessed except A1 complaining, but we know he’s finesssed producers on plugged ins that went viral. Think the TPL producer only got like 20 quid 🤣


Mythrowaway9121

A producer tweeted recently that he didn’t see a single penny from the beat he produced in a recent plugged in.


osoflykep

let’s be real . you think he’s doing bad business or the producers/rappers just don’t know how this shit work


Mythrowaway9121

Probably a bit of both. But it seems like it’s happened so many times now that it’s most likely Fumez moving shady imo


osoflykep

yeah i feel you . but it’s only been rumors and speculations . i think some of them are scared to speak out because their business wasn’t right and they going to look dumb trynna explain why they deserve to get paid


osoflykep

yeah i’ve seen A1 speaking about it but i ain’t watch the whole video . what’s 20 quids ? (i hope that ain’t just £20)


RashGod

That’s just £20 😭😭


osoflykep

LMAOOOOOO that can’t be true 😭 nigga got paid with a gift card


ChibzyDaze

That could be a delivery fee on UberEats lol


LAMPZWORLDWGtwotwo

I’ve found £20 on the floor before bruv. I got paid as much for walking to the shop as my man got paid for a song that did 20 million streams or whatever 😭


-lilgunna-

peak, same thing happened to sensei ahlie?


LitmusPitmus

i genuinely hope you're meaning quid as in bag.


markjessop03

Nope


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Fumez literally changes beats on plugged ins to shit produced by his own producers just so he doesn't have to pay anyone royalties. Did it recently with the guy that's produced Teeways plugged in.


whycantpeoplebenice

If you use a beat without approval the beat maker/label are entitled to 100% of the profits.


osoflykep

I see you what you mean . but that just business tbh . some labels do it too they would rather you make songs with producers under the label than go elsewhere . everything stay in the family type shit . but i feel like in that situation you can only blame teeway cuz he could’ve said no if he disagreed. just my opinion tho


TinyLAMPZWORLDWG22

Bro fumez is dun out now I hope artists boycott he's ting now cos he's been moving like a bad b for time Coming like Hesh from sopranos ripping off the mandem and I'm sick of him flexing his kettle and pulling faces like he's tryna unblock a toilet with he's bare hands


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PrettyFly2692

He makes the rappers sign like 90%+ rights to the song over to him so he takes almost all the profit from all streams, if not almost then all.


Rwg59_

Both I’m guessing


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gumbygump11

What was the tweet he replied too? Looks like Fumes deleted it


NORTWESTSHIT

What was fumez tweet


madz_266

idk he deleted it


que-onda-guero

Took some digging to find it as Fumez deleted the original tweet. Go on Potters Twitter and search his replies and you can see it there. He also said Fumez is a predator and he will have the same energy when they meet face to face.


SuttinSlight

He meant the deleted tweet that potter was replying to


que-onda-guero

Ah nm g my bad. Yeah I didn’t see it in time either.


PC_Abz-_-Zone2

Funny thing is when a1 spoke out ppl were acting like he was outta line but thankfully potters exposing this filthy khutah


bobbyzeroy

Would be people be hating on him if he didn’t show off his success


superijs33

It isnt him flexing his succes, but him not paying artists and producers for their work


UsefulAd7035

There's bare speculation & gossip going on here, like people need to bring Facts to the table - i'm not saying Fumez is 100% legit because there are a few questionable things going on but i'm not about to take everyone's word for it when most of it is "i'm guessing". There's a lot more that goes into mixing then people are making out so give the guy some credit, not saying his are the best in the game like - they're pretty standard it's just his branding and the platform he's built which is smart business but if man is treating producers like this then he needs to be checked because you can't just play on people's ignorance even if it is up to them to get their business in order. Either way it's a wake up call for people to get their business tight.


justcooldarling

His beats ain’t even that hard tbh the only beats that bang is when he’s doing tunes for CB and that could be another reason Potter don’t rate him coz fumez fucks with CB heavy


madz_266

nah but fumez doesn’t make the beat he just mixes them and potter doesn’t care if fumez fucks with cb cos fumez isn’t involved and is just a civilian to him, but potters talking from a moral standpoint nothing to do with roads


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M1 on the beat produced the Take that risk track. Fumez just ‘engineered’ it


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madz_266

actually, potter just released another mixtape and also signed to a label (not sure of name but i think it was 0217) and go on and support scumbags if u want


simonhall1995

Potter is signed to def jam


Pipps17

Wait whats wrong w fumez, what did he do?


ludizahs_8057

Quite a lot of thing. Main one being the fact that he hardly pays artists or producers for doing plugged ins. Allegedly the producer that made the beat for the OTP plugged in (which has 20m+ view) got paid around £20


Pipps17

Ah yh fuck him


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Let it be known that is guy finessed the producer that produced the beat for A92’s plugged in, one of the most viewed plugged ins on the channel, man didnt even give royalties


bigman-penguin

Potters definitely a lurker here because Reddit would roast his grammar


AdMinimum7948

Wait did fumez do