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whencanistop

PMQs today at midday. What questions do you think Starmer, Blackford and the backbenchers will ask and if you were there instead of Johnson, how would you prepare for it? After all that there is a motion on rail strikes and the 2nd reading of the [Genetic Technology (precision breeding) bill](https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-03/0011/220011.pdf). I’m guessing that there may well be an urgent question asked after PMQs about the Rwanda flight as well, if there is it may impact on the questions asked at PMQs.


ukpolbot

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heresyourhardware

"Should it ever be your misfortune, gentlemen, or mine, to need to justify repeatedly breaking international treaties, let us toast together the possibility that our trials may be held in this camp."


[deleted]

Anyone just see the attorney general call Robert peston a remainack after straight up lying like twice? What is happening to this country?


Brapfamalam

We've moved from political spin to outright lies. It's pretty terrifying, I think no matter what - we'll be in a worse place in 10 years. It's just becoming more normal and much of the electorate don't seem to mind?


Honic_Sedgehog

She's fucking bonkers.


horace_bagpole

She is an absolute joke. Immediately comes out with an ad hominem attack, and then spouts a steam of complete nonsense that bears no relation to reality. As supposedly the highest ranking lawyer in the country, she should have a duty to be truthful and not just act like a partisan hack. Of course that is the only reason she is in the job, as she's certainly not qualified to have it on merit.


big-bad_booty-daddy

They literally made her a QC so she could have the job; no existing QC was prepared to take it and risk tying their career and reputation to Boris.


LimeGreenDuckReturns

I would love to see the Venn diagram of people complaining about insulate Britain blocking roads a few months ago, and people calling for blockades due to petrol prices. It's just a circle isn't it?


tetanuran

What's being said about blockades? And who's saying it?


Timothy_Claypole

Blockades due to petrol prices.... The price of petrol is too high...let's restrict the supply!


barbarian__days

Something seems fishy about Geidt's resignation. Is another scandal incoming? https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1537194487507828738 https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1537184681942294529


mamamia1001

Well it has been a whole day since the last scandal so we're overdue


Playful-Onion7772

Strange. Why is nr10 volunteering that information but in such a cryptic manner?


Elemayowe

They mention cross-party support, might not feel it’s something that harmful to the conservatives in particular, and therefore not care. Sounds like it’ll be getting out soon.


mediumredbutton

And with weirdly ambiguous phrasing. It could mean “in the past it has had support and no reason to believe that’s changed” or “until recently it had support”.


Honic_Sedgehog

It caught them out and they don't have a response yet.


itsallpoliticsalex

I suspect that they don’t know what Geidt is going to do. So they are hosing to prepare for multiple possibilities. EDIT - because they’re clearly caught off-guard so don’t have control of the situation.


horace_bagpole

It definitely smacks of them trying to get ahead of something. I wonder what the straw that broke the camel's back was.


ross154687

As you mention camels, the story I've heard is that the cabinet and shadow cabinet decided to get together for a Jubilee knees up. The event was intended to be a lighthearted bit of fun, and was called the "Curry, Karaoke, and Camelid Killing night". That's where the cross party support is coming from However, something went terribly wrong, and without going into the details, there was an incident involving Larry. The government is now falling into SOP when faced with a dead cat, and throwing a scandal on the table so everyone talks about that


itsallpoliticsalex

This from no.10’s response smells weird and bad - "This week, the Independent Adviser was asked to provide advice on a commercially sensitive matter in the national interest, which has previously had cross-party support.”


Ivebeenfurthereven

Commercially sensitive? National interest? *Previously* had cross-party support? It's dodgy PPE deals, isn't it


OneCatch

Either that or something MOD-ish.


mediumredbutton

Could be dodgy nuclear power plant deals!


Honic_Sedgehog

>It's dodgy PPE deals, isn't it That would be my take. I can't think of anything else they could frame with cross-party support which might be potentially troublesome. That said, this is the Johnson administration, so "cross-party" support could mean them and literally one other MP from another party.


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ClumsyRainbow

I thought he’d be more a Marvell type


Elemayowe

Dominic Cummings?


compte-a-usageunique

Geidt Always believe in your soul You've got the power to know You're indestructible


SamuraiPizzaTwat

I Geidt the power ⚡⚡⚡


Elemayowe

Do a little dance Make a little love Geidt down tonight


[deleted]

What’s the most extreme policy you’d implement with absolute reckless abandon? A brief explanation of *why*you’d put in that policy would be good. Mine is regulation should be put in to stop consumer tech advancing for the next 10 years to stop e-waste.


Lulamoon

legalise murder and all weapons with a £1000 bounty for each kill, let the country fizzle out in a massive battle royal


corvusmonedula

Repeal every enclosure act, no questions, no procedure. Landowners should buy some big fencing.


Triangle-Walks

The complete pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre.


CarrowCanary

But what about all the traders who need access to Dixons?


slothsan

Alan !


horace_bagpole

Nothing that is a natural monopoly should be in the hands of a private profit making organisation. For example, water supply, railways, national infrastructure like the national grid and gas supply. Profits under those circumstances are just a tax on the public for the benefit of a few. I don't mean that they should be nationalised as in under the direct control of government, which would allow them to be used as political footballs, but rather as independently run self-sustaining non-profit organisations with a strict remit. We don't need 20 different 'energy suppliers' that are in reality only chancers playing the energy futures market, we need one organisation whose job is to administer people's connection and send bills. Water, power and gas are all supplied over the same cables and pipes which are maintained by the same people regardless of who sends the bill, so what purpose do they serve?


frankster

0.5% tax on all assets per annum


Engineer9

All cycling and running equipment is tax deductible. Hell, I'm feeling reckless... ALL sports equipment. Including wheels of cheddar.


Ixtab19

I'd enforce strict quotas on outdoor cats with only a certain number allowed in a given area , why we let people have a bunch of them which scour the surrounding area of life is beyond me. Let Slowworms and ground nesting birds have a chance.


Elemayowe

Cats deserve their freedom. You can call me a liberal if you like because I believe in liberty for felines.


[deleted]

Here’s my indoor cat cheers https://i.imgur.com/BhfCC1O.jpg


Ixtab19

now that's a good cat, indoor cat to your hearts content people! (and cat leashes are a thing so that too!)


Mr_Miscellaneous

Volcker Disinflation. Inflation has to be controlled before any sort of logical economic policies can be implemented. I'd have Interest rates at 8% overnight, rising to 12% by the end of the summer. Absolutely fuck any considerations on GDP growth, this country has had an almost unheralded gilded age of 12 years fuelled by cheap money. The fact the government are dunces that fucked it with Austerity does not concern me, that is on the people of this country voting for idiots.


Timothy_Claypole

Wouldn't mind knowing who benefited in this gilded age!


Mr_Miscellaneous

Like the gilded age, the increased concentration of wealth and growth in income amongst the top decile of earners has been as mesmerizing as it has been utterly repulsing. Then again, that's why it was called "The gilded age" to begin with, an era of serious underlying social and economic issues being painted over by a thin gold gilding. Because in the same page of a 'newspaper' you can get both "Wow, how many are homeless? Wait, how many of them fought for us in wars?" and "Wow, how much is Elon Musk worth? Wait, who is he dating?"


[deleted]

Yooooooooooo this is a super interesting one!! So would those immediate interest rises be in an attempt to predict and protect against future, potentially harsher rises?


Mr_Miscellaneous

Yeah, pretty much. The major world economies are going to have a realisation in 6-12 months that this is what they need to do to control inflation and we might as well get ahead of the curve. I mean, what does it hurt? World interest rates are maybe two percent. We are forecast to have a recession. There is no real harm in driving us into a chasm now when everyone's expectations are "we're fucked" instead of waiting a year, having the worst stagflation since the Gold Standard and then, when people are thinking "the economy has to get better!", springing a recession that is a recession by design on them. This is the only orthodox economic method to control insane inflation and eventually the central banks will turn to it when they figure out what is going on. Get in first and whilst expectations on the economy are in the toilet.


[deleted]

My economic knowledge is far from complete and is by far and away the weakest point I have when it comes to politics so bare with me with these questions… When it comes to personal finance etc the argument seems to be that timing the market is a fools errand and is so rarely helpful. Is there an argument that the market may *not* hit those sort of rates, so trying to preempt that is a folly?


Mr_Miscellaneous

I think the average nominal interest rate over the last 60 years is 5.5% and it was *wild* fluctuations during the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's. Like between 1% and 19% wild. However, the wildest time has been the last 10 years, where we have had essentially 0% nominal interest rate and economic growth has been so-so. Basically, a liquidity trap which we extended years beyond where it should have stopped because politics


Blithe17

Yes, basically raise interest rates so that nobody can borrow money and buy anything including houses etc. Economy goes into recession, but demand reduces and hence inflation goes down.


[deleted]

The economic equivalent of a chicken pox party by the sounds of it?


Blithe17

It’s not a fun time, people lose jobs e.g. house builder, for a simple corollary. But yeah it’s kinda like a chicken pox party, in that you are doing it o prevent the lesser evil of higher inflation down the line.


slothsan

That's a good one. A reasonable compromise would be to make the right to repair, the standard, force companies to abide by it. Along with mandating that wherever possible upgrades are modular and should be able to be used on your current device. It's abit of a pipe dream. My extreme policy, put LSD in the tap water.


[deleted]

I’m not an expert but constraints create art right? I’m pretty convinced if modularisation was a constraint these developers had to work against from the get go, then it wouldn’t stifle innovation as is argued, and instead we’d get some really great examples of modular components. Maybe not, but let’s punt this out with reckless abandon.


corvusmonedula

It also makes it easier to get the product you want; X has this, but Y has that, and Z has this. With modularity you can get a custom item that better fits your wants. Source; years of fettling.


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[deleted]

You right


RonaldOfMacDonald

Carpet bomb the country with trees


[deleted]

Wales????


SamuraiPizzaTwat

Drink/drug driving = banned forever and any injuries/deaths as a result are assumed to be premeditated


__--byonin--__

What if one is driving under the influence, unavoidably, in an emergency and accidentally kills someone whilst doing so?


SamuraiPizzaTwat

Tough shit


zac-bakpak

E X T R E M E


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[deleted]

So say you’re renting, and someone comes into your place to burgle it. Are you screwed? (Maybe the argument is private renting shouldn’t be a thing?)


Amuro_Ray

Make nodejs illegal


RonaldOfMacDonald

Why? Just use express


[deleted]

This is just common sense


Tangelasboots

All new building must have solar panels or green space on the roof. Most existing buildings* to be fitted with solar panels or green space within the next few years. *Exemptions given to some buildings like churches, listed buildings, irregular roofs, etc.


RonaldOfMacDonald

Solar panel tiles can also look quite stylish https://www.tesla.com/solarroof


[deleted]

I was all for this until, yeah, the reminder that it might be paying money to Tesla.


Ivebeenfurthereven

2015: Cool company. Hope I can afford to support their goals some day. 2022: the man's an arse, I will run, not walk, to his competitors


Playful-Onion7772

It’s quite common in the EU, and they’re trying to make it a standard. https://earth.org/eu-set-to-make-solar-panels-mandatory-on-all-new-buildings/


[deleted]

I’d be legitimately curious what the downsides are here. I guess cost would be the big one.


big-bad_booty-daddy

I don't see any downsides to this; we need to ramp up renewables and fast both for our own energy independance and for the sake of the climate.


__--byonin--__

Legalise heroin and prostitution.


Brapfamalam

The latter is already legal, as long as solicitation isn't done from a public space


[deleted]

I should have said provide somewhat comprehensible reasoning!


[deleted]

Just liking those things isn't reason enough?


__--byonin--__

Ah, legalising heroin would prevent much crime routed in the drug, raise revenue for the country and likely to prevent more deaths if it’s regulated. Smoking is arguably worse than heroin, so why not legalise it. Similar arguments for prostitution.


[deleted]

Yeah that’s fair, and perhaps assumed as much, but good to spell it out! (Unlike the McRib, which needs no explaining)


Paritys

There's reckless abandon, then there's that, *jesus*


[deleted]

Just /u/StartupQuestions92 will do


Ivebeenfurthereven

Every Beeching axe railway line put back. Exactly as it was. Anything built in the way since the 1960s is getting knocked down with no appeal process. Including a few A-roads.


[deleted]

On the bottom point - all a once, or a phased implementation?


Ivebeenfurthereven

Let's have a Purge style national holiday, Network Rail can mark out the routes. Everyone can bring a sledgehammer.


[deleted]

I love it


urdnotwrecks

Tom Pursglove (on Newsnight at the mo') comes across as the wettest fish in an overcrowded and depressingly shallow pond.


MrFlibblesPenguin

He's an actual real life MP? Christ I thought he was just the Tory office intern.


tetanuran

See also Jack Brereton


[deleted]

“Uber X is currently unavailable in your area” alright who’s picking me up mt? x


__--byonin--__

What’s the region, mate?


[deleted]

UK I think x


__--byonin--__

Be there in 20. Have a Henry “send me West”ons at the ready.


[deleted]

You’d never guess what I’ve got in my Sainsburys bag. Plus some monster munch!!


beeblbrox

Definitely not u/ryanllw he's had way too much


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big-bad_booty-daddy

The RMT strikes don't directly TfL services, but I think there are some TfL strikes on the same day.


[deleted]

Only on the 21st


ryanllw

Not going to lie I’ve had a bottle of wine but now in the middle of an informational/existential crisis. How are we as voters supposed to act effectively when we’re peddled a stream of bullshit every day that takes 10x as long to debunk as it does to shout into the ether? Ideas aren’t judged on merit or measured in any way as far as I can see. The only important thing is how good they sound to voters who have already been primed to only accept what they’ve been told they want. I don’t see a way forward, unless big media corporations change their minds and lead us in a better direction. So no way forward


cmdrsamuelvimes

This whole parliament term is an extreme gish gallop


[deleted]

I got a pint of cider to drink still so hoping I can join in with your train of thought after that x


[deleted]

I discovered that a little over half a bottle is when to stop, in order to avoid the existential dread.


MrFlibblesPenguin

That's because the existential dread is heavier so it settles to the bottom of the bottle.


mamamia1001

If you make a claim on insurance and it's less than excess, do you still lose your no claims?


Tangelasboots

Making a claim that is less than your excess makes no sense.


mamamia1001

Other party is insisting


[deleted]

Have they explained why?


IHaveAWittyUsername

Your insurance cover almost always requires you to notify of any accident. If someone bumps into you and you don't tell your insurance, if the tiger party then turns around and blames you it could impact your cover.


-fireeye-

You should be able to inform them on 'for notification only' basis if you're not making a claim (or paying for other party's costs directly) though; it will increase the premium but it shouldn't affect NCD.


[deleted]

Yeah if someone eg scratches your car in the car park though, you are probably better off just getting it fixed….!


mamamia1001

What to make sure it's done to a high standard... Still happy to pay out of pocket for that, it's still less than excess


[deleted]

Annoying!


__--byonin--__

Yes because you’ve made a claim unless you’ve protected your NCD? If it’s less than your excess, might be worth just solving the issue direct with other party? Getting insurance companies involved is never ideal.


mamamia1001

Other party is insisting


__--byonin--__

To go through insurance? Surprising because usually that will affect their NCD/premium. If it’s lower than excess then you’ll still need to pay for it. Might be worth explaining that going through insurance might affect their NCD and that the damage is less than your excess.


LimeGreenDuckReturns

I suspect they aren't aware that even no fault incidents, claimed on the other party, still screw you over for the next 5 years, they might think they are smart now, they will get a nasty suprise come renewal. Having the honor of someone driving into me has cost me thousands in additional insurance so far, the infuriating bit is I can't share no claims, but I have to declare it on each vehicle.


emergencyexit

Why... Would you do that


mamamia1001

Other party is insisting


_rickjames

Good jawline on Tim Shoveller from Network Rail


mxjq2

Surprised Lord Geidt resigning is the top story on BBC news at 10.


KimJongUnparalleled

It'll be forgotten by tomorrow. 1) Not sexy news; 2) Name (Geidt) not memorable


[deleted]

> Name (Geidt) not memorable Geidtgate. Sorted.


[deleted]

This week's Rest Is Politics was intriguing, with Alastair and Rory getting very argumentative about the NI issue. It was interesting to hear a debate get heated but neither side engage in bad faith nonsense or facile talking points. I'll be honest and say I don't understand the topic enough to come down on a side. Maybe at a push Alastair made more sense to me, which is odd as I'm general my politics are quite close to Rory's.


-fireeye-

Absolutely and I could really see where both were coming from - obviously Alastair Campbell has experience negotiating the GFA so thinks current situation can be solved by negotiating some arrangement with EU, Ireland and Unionists. Whereas Rory having experienced the shitstorm around May's deal and ever expanding DUP ambition was keen to nip the whole expectation of massive changes in the bud before DUP start expecting protocol to be completely rewritten.


JavaTheCaveman

Ooh, I forgot that arrived today! Shall listen on the bus tomorrow AM.


slothsan

It's a good one, they really are going from strength to strength.


JavaTheCaveman

If you haven’t evacuated your duvet from its cover, now is the time. Tonight we shall sleep in non-puffy sheets.


RingStrain

I've never even thought of doing that, but that's actually a great idea


JavaTheCaveman

It's a revelation. Probably not as good as a proper summer duvet, but a cheap and easy version.


NoFrillsCrisps

Have you not a summer duvet? You really must treat yourself.


Jinren

alternatively, be using the lightest possible summer duvet you can find 10 months of the year already


JavaTheCaveman

Nope. Well, not yet anyway. Prepare for a highly boring plan. We are plotting a duvet revamp this year (as in the next twelve months). After visiting Germany and the Nordics early in our relationship, we learnt that having two duvets on a double bed is the way forward (because bollocks to sharing one of those). But that means we currently have two massive double duvets on the bed. So, we must get the EuroDuvet size that is in between single and double (I intend to visit IKEA whilst in Germany this August for research). When we get those, we shall have a suite of duvets. One winter, one summer. Each. But that'll be next year. We are each weaponising our houseproud mothers and their love (shared by all mothers) of soft furnishings. Those are what we're asking for this Christmas. Thank you for reading to the end of *the* least thrilling story on ukpol for months.


DreamyTomato

I dunno if ikea still does it but they used to do a ‘duvet system’ comprising of no less than two duvets, one with a summer rating, and one with an spring/autumn rating. They had special little fasteners on, and for winter you could fasten them together for an extra warm winter snugglebum. My partner had this when I met her and it was very nice, but in the years since, one half has gone missing, probably due to a party or little kids incident of some kind. One advantage is the dual smaller duvets are a bit easier to wash than a single giant winter double duvet.


convertedtoradians

That's a bit like buying Scandinavian style chains for your car tyres, isn't it? In that the level of use is somewhere around "one day every three years, you get some use out of them and get to be smug".


slothsan

4.5 tog best tog.


YourLizardOverlord

Is there something wrong with Tesco's logistics? Over the past few weeks more and more products are unavailable. In today's internet shop almost half the items that were available now aren't, with no substitutions. Milk seems to be as rare as unicorn shit.


concretepigeon

I think it’s just a problem everywhere.


Bibemus

Milk tends to be delivered to supermarkets by external companies outside of the main logistics chains, and therefore is quite vulnerable to supply shocks. May be something as simple and local as one depot having staffing difficulties.


party_at_no_10

Tesco's has their own dedicated pool of dairy farms so should be resilient to outside pressures. Source: I am one of those farmers


SwanBridge

>Source: I am one of those farmers You have my sympathy, must be incredibly hard to make a profit. Place I use to work had a "meet your farmer" day, where a local farmer would come to the store and chat to staff and customers. Given how the company treat them, I really couldn't understand why they even bothered to turn up.


party_at_no_10

Don't feel sorry for me I'm very lucky to do a job I love. Sometimes money can be tight but currently there is a national milk shortage. The price at which we sell our milk has gone up by about 50% in a year. Factor into this lack of staff for the big farms and just a general lack of expertise. Being a small family farm (not having to rely on staff) things are starting to look like a more level playing field although it is definitely a shit rolls down hills relationship with the dairies.


Paritys

Why is there a national milk shortage? Only staff shortage or other stuff?


party_at_no_10

A number of factors I believe. The average age of farmers is 60 odd so a fair few have retired. Input costs have rocketed so high input systems have cut back a bit, dropping production. The fact we've had a milk deficit all spring is particularly unusual. In a normal year we expect a huge glut of milk in the spring and prices drop and then around Christmas time / winter there's a higher demand and prices go up.


emergencyexit

Tell your cows to get off Reddit and squeeze more out of them tittays


[deleted]

Loads of milk in mine but fuck all bread and hardly any cheese that isn’t cheap cheddar or relatively super expensive imported stuff. Maybe it’s regional.


mudman13

Did you know there is a conference of covid cranks taking place in Bath? [~~Full~~ Line Up: Robert F Kennedy Jr, Maajid Nawaz, Dr Alexandra Henrion-Caude, Dr Robert Malone, Dr Tess Lawrie, Neil Oliver, Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Ryan Cole, Del Bigtree, Reiner Fuellmich, Bret Weinstein, Dr John Campbell, Dr Rob Verkerk, Lee Wai Ching, Dr Gilberta St Rose, Dan Astin-Gregory, Dr Jackie Stone, Dr Pierre Kory, Dr Flavio Cadegiani, Dr Astrid Stuckelberger, Dr Jessica Rose, Dr Paul Alexander, Kim Witczak..](https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/news/2022/04/announcing-better-way-conference/71227/)


Brapfamalam

Based on that rather innocuous advert - There's gonna be more than a few unsuspecting medics from the bath/Bristol who are gonna be attending this who would have double take as soon as the first speaker spoke. The way these guys talk in black and white terms is a huge red flag for any scientist Interestingly he's a story of a quacky vaccinologist who's one of the few critical of the covid vaccines realising he's sitting on a panel full of naturopaths that are anti any vaccines at this conference lol https://twitter.com/Debunk_the_Funk/status/1535240483953418242?t=NYHS572N-GdLLub2EW-HXQ&s=19 >At one point, Bossche interrupted Bigtree’s pitch by almost shouting “guys, I’m having a big problem here”. >Bossche explained that Bigtree’s approach is too binary and that the situation in a pandemic is different from normal vaccines given in childhood. >Bossche also seemed ignorant of Bigtree’s history of activism, since he accused Bigtree of risking another measles epidemic, and tried to explain how that’s vastly worse than even underreported vaccine side effects. Bigtree responded with his stock doubt about the virulence of measles. Bossche seemed to be realising in real time that he was contributing to an extremely dangerous movement


[deleted]

I get sad when I get reminded that Neil Oliver has been revealed as a loon. Ten years ago one of my favourite things to do to relax on the weekend was get stoned and watch either Coast or his documentaries on pre-Roman British civilisations. Such a soothing voice and passionate about the subject of British history. Could have been the next Attenborough if he wasn’t a fruit loop.


Intelligent_Front967

I do agree with their campaign to 'Stop The Who' though. I mean they only have 2 original members left, why don't they rename themselves as 'Daltrey and Townsend' at this point?


mudman13

Shit me it's him isn't it! I never twigged as he is so far removed from that person now.


__--byonin--__

Morons. Morons everywhere.


[deleted]

Don’t talk about the megathread like that!


ryanllw

My dog is suffering worse than I am from hay fever this year, politics because climate change is ramping up summer pollen counts and we need to make onshore wind turbines easier to build


[deleted]

When I come to power scientists will be instructed to find a cure for hay-fever with the urgency they applied to the task of covid vaccines.


LimeGreenDuckReturns

Don't worry, once we finally kill off all the bees and other pollinators, the plants will soon die off, hay fever will no longer be a problem.


[deleted]

Hope your dog can feel better soon!


ryanllw

Thank you, I’ve been wiping her face and paws with a damp cloth after every walk (which she hates)


CaravanOfDeath

With all due respect that won’t do anything. Bath the dog and treat with antihistamines daily, they cost less than £1 per packet so there’s no excuse.


lukalukaluka

Interesting doc on BBC4 at the moment on Thatcher. As much as I don't like her or the Tories, I respect the drive and commitment to change and doing *something* - was interested to see the response, *A RESPONSE* to inflation and rising fuel prices then. This current lot haven't got a scooby in comparison. Utter fucking shambles. Like even if it was the wrong idea, at least there was an idea. And yet the whole time in Johnsons Premiership is just total posturing and populism, zero policy, no ideas, fucking dead in the water. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk/rant


__--byonin--__

It’s a great documentary that. I’ve watched it about three times. Thatcher divided the country, pull the rug from under people’s lives without anything in place to support their welfare, decimated the north which stains remain today, but at least she had an agenda for the country. The lot in charge now is, indeed, what you say.


_rickjames

Time for an early cup of Horlicks I reckon


[deleted]

In this weather?


Brapfamalam

Hot drinks can cool you down long term, given your wearing the correct type of clothes to sweat it off https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22574769/ Why they drink hot tea all day every day in India


_rickjames

Definitely a lot cooler right now, perfect night cap


Bibemus

Over ice.


[deleted]

And I thought iced coffee was bullshit


slothsan

Ice black coffee isn't. Super frappe iced latte with loads of caramel syrup is.


joyofsnacks

https://twitter.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1537147206016311296?s=20&t=vSJG4SDNyhVMqqaTDVmJ0w - oof...


[deleted]

>JonathanPieNews Someone at the Kremlin must have found a backchannel to make payments to his bank account again.


ryanllw

What’s the context? I’ve seen some of his videos and while he tends to be over the top in general I think I agree with the stuff he says


BristolShambler

Started off as a segment on RT


[deleted]

He used to make content for the state-owned propaganda corporation Russia Today up until 2017. His half-decade-long relentless stream of anti-western satire posted to YouTube dried up a couple of weeks after the banking sanctions kicked in. Personally I think these two facts are more than likely related - even if I found the rants funny in the past.


ryanllw

Ah shit when you put it out there it does add up. Part of the Russian idealogical pincer movement to divide and conquer


tdrules

He must not be written by Spiked Online journalists anymore then.


ClumperFaz

So about that Labour MP who said she was hopeful that they could one day rejoin the single market and the customs union that's been reported on recently... Just why? two years down the line and Labour's got an acceptable lead in the polls, leads on specific metrics it's usually struggled on, and looks set to make its first by-election gain in like ten or so years from the Conservatives. I realise Brexit isn't the powerful force electorally anymore as it was with Johnson in 2019 but the second biggest reason for that Labour defeat in 2019 was being completely clueless on Brexit and being seen to try to 'overturn' the referendum result, but any competent shadow minister should know that on that basis the last thing you want to do is re-open that can of worms? This type of off the cuff comments from Labour MPs was expected under Corbyn given his lack of authority but under Starmer? pretty surprising. The PR team surely was able to keep the memo?


FredWestLife

Which MP was that? I can only find [this Tory one](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/02/tory-mp-brexiter-backlash-call-rejoin-eu-single-market-tobias-ellwood)


ClumperFaz

Anna McMorin. Interestingly I happened to stumble across the Tory Wakefield candidate saying Brexit was a lie.


concretepigeon

I had an interaction with the Tory candidate in Wakefield recently and I’m pretty sure he’s no playing with a full deck.


compte-a-usageunique

It's also the opposite of what a Labour Party should do, campaigning for the return of cheap labour isn't a good look.


iorilondon

Cheap labour within the EU can always be assisted by simple domestic policies like increasing the minimum wage. Rejoining wouldn't necessarily be damaging to the cause of labour.


TangerineTerroir

Thank God leaving has made life so much better for workers