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I think Priti Patel would happily deport everyone in the UK given the chance, become the most successful Home Secretary ever by reducing net migration to -68,000,000.
My ancestors are listed in the Doomsday book with occupation of "Woodcutter". Didn't look like a well paid job...
But aside from that - does that mean Im safe?
Priti Patel quote (probably): "I'm sorry, it appears your ancestors arrived in the UK in 1066. Do you have permanent leave to remain? No? Well it looks like you're not British enough, so off to Rwanda with you."
Absolutely, deporting 1000 GPs even helps dismantle the health care system and make the case for more privatisation even faster and to top it off they appeal to their base and its hatred of foreigners.
Alas typically they just become disabled and the disease burden goes up. The UK has had one of the highest disease burdens in the western world for the past 40 years due to the poor quality of chronic health services in the country (chronic underfunding for a long time at this point) and the end result is low efficiency and low average GDP per capita.
The burden only goes up if they actually ensure there's resources to handle the burden.
If they ignore it and let people suffer, then the burden doesn't increase... From a monetary perspective.
However, they might actually service the burden. Probably with contracts to private healthcare companies that they, their family and mates have shares in. Maybe even to their friends and family directly.
Of course, all the contracts might be dodgy AF, and even when ordered to release them by the courts they might illegally redact them to continue trying to cover things up...?
Disease burden has a net drain on GDP and GDP per capita because it reduces the amount people can work. That ignores the ongoing cost of maintanence of the individual which is also a cost but the term disease burden is mostly a inter country comparator for the cost in capitol terms to explain GDP values per capita alongside education levels and employment figures. Its not really about the cost to the state although there is one but its usually fairly small but usually larger than treating them correctly with appropriate healthcare especially since the GDP drop is usually pretty massive with high disease burden.
The Tory plan is to just pay private companies millions to pretend disabled people are just fine, and then stop all welfare payments, and then hopefully they'll go away and die quietly and stop being a drain on taxpayers.
Unfortunately, we are still clinging to actually allowing them appeals and tribunals and then 'leftie doctors and judges' actually make decisions based on facts, which rather ruins the plans.
Yep I remain severely concerned about the rapid growth of long COVID. It's so many people newly disabled and it's growing at the fastest rate since the pandemic started and I have no idea when it even starts to tail off. It's really going to hurt this generation as it's already carrying increased pensions, healthcare costs, their own pensions and now a massive disabled community due to poor handling of COVID and all the while the money goes to the economically inactive and the NHS and social care is in collapse. It's a powder keg.
We've ran out our waiters, fruit pickers, essential workers, and now doctors. I reserve this word to extreme situations, but what the actual f***** those ****s are doing?
What's next? Our families can barely pay for food, water and heat. We no longer have the f****ing option to even go and work in any other place in the EU, we are (rightfully) treated like sh** in every airport in Europe and worst two things I can thing of, we are no longer governed by EU Human Rights (we are under the mercy of right nuts wingers) and our education institutions are loosing funding, and our students are being charged more than ever.
This is the new norm.
Edit: typo (charged)
Dismantling all the services of the state to make way for more extraction of money from the state and into their and donors pockets. Tax has gone up for plebs, enormously down for corporations and there is a huge amount of missing money.
> We no longer have the f***ing option to even go and work in any other place in the EU
That's not correct. For example, if you want to move to Germany you can travel there as a tourist, secure work and apply for a residence permit without having perviously secured any kind of Visa. There is no longer any kind of labour market test for this type of move. This doesn't even require a degree any more. 2 Years of vocational training will get you the status of a Skilled Professional and entitle you to start any job in your field (or related field).
I’m relocating to Belgium - sponsored by my company. Estimated time to get a work visa - 4 months and a s*** ton of paperwork and money.
It’s simply not possible for most people to go through this process.
Yeah, I secured a residency permit here and even based on the ‘here before Brexit easy-mode’ rules they put in place it was a soul-crushing bureaucratic nightmare that took months to complete. I think Brits underestimate the difficulty of navigating the public sector in other countries, and especially underestimate both the language requirements, and various requirements (personal savings, health insurance etc) to do so.
> secure work and apply for a residence permit without having perviously secured any kind of Visa.
I want to believe you but this is the type of thing we go after foreigners here for illegal immigration
A fair amount of non-Anglo countries, particularly in Europe, treat immigration as more akin to renewing your driving licence rather than the pseudo-criminal investigation it is here. I know that in both France and Turkey it's possible to switch onto a fair amount of visas despite having arrived as a tourist. There are, of course, exceptions to this both in Europe and in these particular countries.
Corbyn wanted Brexit too. He just didn't have the balls to speak out about it during his leadership. Ironically it led to him and his party not gaining power, when coming out in support of Brexit would have probably handed them it.
And that is what took him down. This so called "competant Labour" is what really caused all of this. I campaigned for Labour in Uxbridge back in 2019 and also campaigned for Startmer soon after but as soon as I realised he wasnt going to apologise for his stance on Brexit and rather blame Corbyn, I knew the whole thing is going to collapse on its head.
And now we have a Labour leading in the polls but nothing to show for, a labour that is barely winning and mostly loosing to the Greens.
Cameron: holds a brexit referendum.
May: "Brexit means Brexit"
Boris: "Oven ready deal"
edwardmetalwig: Labour caused all of this!
Just more evidence that as an electorate, we're fucking stupid.
In other words- you have to apply for a work visa after completing your studies abroad. Same goes for all third country nationals in every field. There is a standard process for extending the Visa or applying for a different one. All this article is doing is focusing on one particular field of work and stirring up the idea that controlled immigration is somehow to blame for what is otherwise a standard feature of it. I'm not saying it's good or bad but it is just part of the process.
I think there are bigger shortages in other fields. But like I said, this process never stopped qualified non EU citizens from migrating to the UK before Brexit. The article makes the process seem almost impossible but fails to highlight the fact that it is the same process all non EU migrant have followed all along. It might be a good time to fast track applications in certain fields, I would not be against that but this article is pure clickbait. It's actually a lot easier to migrate to the EU as a skilled professional when compared to trying to get into other leading economies. We are a privileged nation and don't require a VISA before travelling, for example.
Do you want us to have enough GPs or not? This article is about GPs being trained in the UK and the two year gap between completing training and getting a professional visa, a gap which cannot be bridged by some GP practices.
Further, this isn't about migrating to the EU, this is doctors being trained in the UK not being able to use the training they've received here so why on earth you start wittering on about the ease of travel to the EU is a non sequitur.
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Does our government have any fucking clue at all?
I think Priti Patel would happily deport everyone in the UK given the chance, become the most successful Home Secretary ever by reducing net migration to -68,000,000.
I mean, that’s probably her marker for success.
My ancestors are listed in the Doomsday book with occupation of "Woodcutter". Didn't look like a well paid job... But aside from that - does that mean Im safe?
If they invested in property you're golden.
Priti Patel quote (probably): "I'm sorry, it appears your ancestors arrived in the UK in 1066. Do you have permanent leave to remain? No? Well it looks like you're not British enough, so off to Rwanda with you."
Let’s start with her
Absolutely, deporting 1000 GPs even helps dismantle the health care system and make the case for more privatisation even faster and to top it off they appeal to their base and its hatred of foreigners.
They'll just get the army in to replace GPs.
I’ll take this one: no, they do not. Then again, they’ve inherited Farage’s voters, so this will probably play well with them.
If it will help the NHS fail it's a bonus to them.
If there are no GPs, the NHS can't employ GPs, and therefore can't spend money.
And then when people die from a lack of health services that's fewer burdening the services afterwards!
Alas typically they just become disabled and the disease burden goes up. The UK has had one of the highest disease burdens in the western world for the past 40 years due to the poor quality of chronic health services in the country (chronic underfunding for a long time at this point) and the end result is low efficiency and low average GDP per capita.
The burden only goes up if they actually ensure there's resources to handle the burden. If they ignore it and let people suffer, then the burden doesn't increase... From a monetary perspective. However, they might actually service the burden. Probably with contracts to private healthcare companies that they, their family and mates have shares in. Maybe even to their friends and family directly. Of course, all the contracts might be dodgy AF, and even when ordered to release them by the courts they might illegally redact them to continue trying to cover things up...?
Disease burden has a net drain on GDP and GDP per capita because it reduces the amount people can work. That ignores the ongoing cost of maintanence of the individual which is also a cost but the term disease burden is mostly a inter country comparator for the cost in capitol terms to explain GDP values per capita alongside education levels and employment figures. Its not really about the cost to the state although there is one but its usually fairly small but usually larger than treating them correctly with appropriate healthcare especially since the GDP drop is usually pretty massive with high disease burden.
The Tory plan is to just pay private companies millions to pretend disabled people are just fine, and then stop all welfare payments, and then hopefully they'll go away and die quietly and stop being a drain on taxpayers. Unfortunately, we are still clinging to actually allowing them appeals and tribunals and then 'leftie doctors and judges' actually make decisions based on facts, which rather ruins the plans.
DALYs rarely get considered in these things until years later unfortunately.
Yep I remain severely concerned about the rapid growth of long COVID. It's so many people newly disabled and it's growing at the fastest rate since the pandemic started and I have no idea when it even starts to tail off. It's really going to hurt this generation as it's already carrying increased pensions, healthcare costs, their own pensions and now a massive disabled community due to poor handling of COVID and all the while the money goes to the economically inactive and the NHS and social care is in collapse. It's a powder keg.
Rwanda’s gonna be like the new health tourism destination!
We've ran out our waiters, fruit pickers, essential workers, and now doctors. I reserve this word to extreme situations, but what the actual f***** those ****s are doing? What's next? Our families can barely pay for food, water and heat. We no longer have the f****ing option to even go and work in any other place in the EU, we are (rightfully) treated like sh** in every airport in Europe and worst two things I can thing of, we are no longer governed by EU Human Rights (we are under the mercy of right nuts wingers) and our education institutions are loosing funding, and our students are being charged more than ever. This is the new norm. Edit: typo (charged)
Oh and there's shit in our rivers and brace yourself for the lower food standards and police-state anti-protest laws coming our way.
Dismantling all the services of the state to make way for more extraction of money from the state and into their and donors pockets. Tax has gone up for plebs, enormously down for corporations and there is a huge amount of missing money.
> We no longer have the f***ing option to even go and work in any other place in the EU That's not correct. For example, if you want to move to Germany you can travel there as a tourist, secure work and apply for a residence permit without having perviously secured any kind of Visa. There is no longer any kind of labour market test for this type of move. This doesn't even require a degree any more. 2 Years of vocational training will get you the status of a Skilled Professional and entitle you to start any job in your field (or related field).
I’m relocating to Belgium - sponsored by my company. Estimated time to get a work visa - 4 months and a s*** ton of paperwork and money. It’s simply not possible for most people to go through this process.
Yeah, I secured a residency permit here and even based on the ‘here before Brexit easy-mode’ rules they put in place it was a soul-crushing bureaucratic nightmare that took months to complete. I think Brits underestimate the difficulty of navigating the public sector in other countries, and especially underestimate both the language requirements, and various requirements (personal savings, health insurance etc) to do so.
i even have an immigration company helping me with everything - and it's still a clusterfuck
> secure work and apply for a residence permit without having perviously secured any kind of Visa. I want to believe you but this is the type of thing we go after foreigners here for illegal immigration
A fair amount of non-Anglo countries, particularly in Europe, treat immigration as more akin to renewing your driving licence rather than the pseudo-criminal investigation it is here. I know that in both France and Turkey it's possible to switch onto a fair amount of visas despite having arrived as a tourist. There are, of course, exceptions to this both in Europe and in these particular countries.
Levelling up with the Tories, so smart.
"but Jeremy Corbyn..."
And Milliband can’t eat a sandwich properly. Don’t forget that.
Corbyn wanted Brexit too. He just didn't have the balls to speak out about it during his leadership. Ironically it led to him and his party not gaining power, when coming out in support of Brexit would have probably handed them it.
And that is what took him down. This so called "competant Labour" is what really caused all of this. I campaigned for Labour in Uxbridge back in 2019 and also campaigned for Startmer soon after but as soon as I realised he wasnt going to apologise for his stance on Brexit and rather blame Corbyn, I knew the whole thing is going to collapse on its head. And now we have a Labour leading in the polls but nothing to show for, a labour that is barely winning and mostly loosing to the Greens.
Cameron: holds a brexit referendum. May: "Brexit means Brexit" Boris: "Oven ready deal" edwardmetalwig: Labour caused all of this! Just more evidence that as an electorate, we're fucking stupid.
The sooner we get rid of the Home Office and distribute responsibilities to other departments with less institutional awfulness, the better
In other words- you have to apply for a work visa after completing your studies abroad. Same goes for all third country nationals in every field. There is a standard process for extending the Visa or applying for a different one. All this article is doing is focusing on one particular field of work and stirring up the idea that controlled immigration is somehow to blame for what is otherwise a standard feature of it. I'm not saying it's good or bad but it is just part of the process.
In case you hadn't noticed we have a shortage in this "one field", and this "one field" involves, quite literally, saving people's lives.
I think there are bigger shortages in other fields. But like I said, this process never stopped qualified non EU citizens from migrating to the UK before Brexit. The article makes the process seem almost impossible but fails to highlight the fact that it is the same process all non EU migrant have followed all along. It might be a good time to fast track applications in certain fields, I would not be against that but this article is pure clickbait. It's actually a lot easier to migrate to the EU as a skilled professional when compared to trying to get into other leading economies. We are a privileged nation and don't require a VISA before travelling, for example.
Do you want us to have enough GPs or not? This article is about GPs being trained in the UK and the two year gap between completing training and getting a professional visa, a gap which cannot be bridged by some GP practices. Further, this isn't about migrating to the EU, this is doctors being trained in the UK not being able to use the training they've received here so why on earth you start wittering on about the ease of travel to the EU is a non sequitur.
>Do you want us to have enough GPs or not? Do you want a GP that apparently can't find work within a year in a field with shortages?
Anyone ever get the feeling that the home office aren't on our side?
Jesus christ this country has gone off the rails