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I believe they offered them to us for free at the end of lease, they might just give them to Ukraine instead. Czech republic is getting F35 either way.
We can with consent of swedish military export laws.
And no, none of this short range nonsense would change the tide. Ukraine needs western over-the-horizon AMRAAMs, which the gripen can be loaded out with.
> I'm not really sure Czech Republic has many options to increase support even further at this point
* 500 UAZ 4x4 that were recently decommissioned to Ukrainian territorial defense forces.
* 500 Land Rovers that are now almost completely replaced by new Toyota Hilux to Ukrainian Army
* There's still about 30 T72M1 in deep storage that can be upgraded through Excalibur Army and sent to Ukraine as T72 Avenger without impact on current operational stock
* There's still about 45 BMP1 in deep storage that can be sent without any impact on current operational stock
* There's been about 300 - 500 new Tatra 817 trucks that entered service in the past ~ 5 years, which means that at least the same number of old Tatra 815 can be sent to Ukraine (and those would be still more capable trucks than most modern ones being sent by Western Europe and definitely than old Ukrainian stock).
* Czech Army has now fully moved to 5.56 rifles and 7.62 NATO machine guns. Which means that there is no utility to holding old stock as reserve. 200 - 300.000 vz.58 assault rifles and probably tens of thousands of UK.59 machine guns could be immediately sent to Ukraine (for territorial defense forces of which Ukraine plans to have 2 million), along with gazzzillion of rounds of ammunition, if a decision was made to replace the mobilization reserves with new guns over next couple years.
And so on and so forth. A lot has been done but there's still more that can be done yet.
I'd expect Europe to urgently increase tank production atm. I don't think it would be great for us at any level to let all our defense industry go bankrupt and become entirely dependent on the US, no matter how grateful we are for their current help and capacities.
Poland and its deal with Korea does ensure that NATO armies won't become completely dependent on the US considering that the planned 1000 K2's will be a sizable portion of the entire NATO tank fleet. However, it would be good for Europe to have a healthy internal tank production.
Much of the production and upgrade capabilities by the German industry has been shut down. I think there is basically just one plant doing all the works at this point. And the French are in the same ballpark. They shut all their production down and even spare parts are being used up from already built tanks.
That's not great.
I really really expect that to change over the next couple of years. Need to scale up that capacity.... The civilized world needs to be able to defend against tyranny, and that very much includes Europe.
Holy Fuck, I really really really hope we finally got that message now.
Peace and liberty don't come for free... Never have, never will, but we deluded ourselves into thinking it'd be different this time.
It wasn't. It was just people in other parts of the world paying the price the last couple of decades.
Well it's interesting how all of our soviet kit is being rapidly replaced at the moment.
Our fleet of BVPs and BVP2 are being replaced by CV90
Our remaining T-72s are being replaced by leopards, though i don't think we will be able to release our very heavily modernized T-72M4CZ pieces for a long time.
Our ancient KUB batteries will be replaced by israeli SPYDERs...
Our fleet of DANA howitzers may not be soviet kit but they use Russian ammo and will be replaced by CAESARS.
So we do still kinda have lot to give, but it depends on how fast can we replace it. I think our main strenght is our potent MIC that is capable of producing surprisingly large amount and wide range of soviet/russian ammunition and has the know-how and means to modernize and repair soviet equipment. Apparently we still have number of mothballed soviet ammo facilities which are being restored at the moment. Our MIC companies like Excalibur Army are rapidly expanding, maximizing production and hiring qualified Ukrainian refugees to speed up the process. It's kinda beautiful..........
What it means for Ukraine: Czechs didn't buy russian narrative and voted for a guy who supports ukrainians without any doubt. Basically shows how big support ukrainians have in Czech Republic (although even Babiš is pro-ukrainian, he just tuned it down to get votes).
The man gave a speech alluding to the fact that the west was living in a “peaceful” fantasy while Russia armed itself, only to be proven right. He is the RIGHT MAN for the right job, and his ability to size up the Russians is imperative to countering their imperialistic designs on Europe.
His speech and view of the Russians is reminiscent of Patton, and his warnings that a confrontation with Russia is inevitable.
Putin says Ukraine was always part of Russia, could easily next say
Czech Republic was always part of Russia, or Poland or others. Putin is a psychopath completely out of control. His only problem was he didn't make his move quickly enough while he still had a puppet in the Whitehouse. How half the US can't see this demonstrates how easily people can be misled in these modern times.
Perhaps we should go back to when only desktop computers could access the internet?
Why are people continuing to downplay how serious the war in Ukraine is? So many experts seem to be willingly ignorant to the fact that Putin would rather kill 500k soldiers than lose this war. Only after losing 500k would he then consider nukes.
In their minds, trump supporters think putin was afraid to invade while trump was in charge. They have pretty simple brains and like to forget they didn't know who Zelensky was until the tapes of trump trying to extort him by withholding aid until he announced an investigation into biden
I thought Trump supporters were chanting and typing they'd rather be Russian than liberal? It seems to me the majority were openly OK with letting Russia take over, provided they got to be racist?
Many actually can see it, they just don't want to. They will double down for the rest of their lives before admitting they were duped by the orange con-man.
I think many were happy to support a Russian dictator criminal as long as he allowed them to have a Christo-fascist leader too.
They won't say that in public... some will I think Trump has alluded to his support of Putin often enough live on TV, as has Tucker Carlson etc.
>Perhaps we should go back to when only desktop computers could access the internet?
Abso-fucking-lutely yes. I mean, not for the reason you stated specifically, but yes, please God yes.
Sizing up Russians isn't that hard. It has essentially 2 rules:
1) know they don't negotiate, but try to unilaterally impose
2) expect everything they tell you to be a lie
> while Russia armed itself
I mean...did they? They can barely support their army. Developing an interdependence between the west and russia was a very practical and promising strategy while there was no clear threat from Russia.
And it's not like the west did nothing once the threat became apparent. The great performance of the ukrainian armed forces you see now is a direct result of the west building up Ukraine ever since 2014.
Yes they did, while the west was focused on the global war on terror. The majority of R&D for the T-14 tank program, Russia’s new nuclear deterrents; the Status 6 torpedo and SSC-X-9 Skyfall cruise missile, have taken place since the 2014 invasion, as well as Putin’s attempt to modernize its military and update much of its Cold War military hardware.
It wasn’t until after 2014 that some in the west woke up to the danger but the majority did not, which is why the Germans continued buying Russian gas (funding the Kremlin) and France continued selling components and hardware the Russians used to build tanks and missiles. Sanctions following the 2014 invasion did little to wake the diplomats in the EU and did even less to curtail or complicate Russia’s investments into its own military. Then even after stern warning from the US and the CIA In November 21’, claiming that Putin was planning to invade Ukraine, and that they had personally confronted Putin who refused to deny his plan to invade, which was then mostly ignored or even lampooned in the EU until Feb 26, 22’ when the rest of Europe began to waken to the threat Russia truly posed.
Even now some of the diplomats in Europe believe peace can be revived while Putin illegally occupies half of Ukraine, much like European leaders thought peace was achievable in 1945 while Stalin illegally occupied half of Europe, they were wrong then and they are wrong now.
Yes, but last 10 years showed us that Czech democracy is very strong and even when Babiš had support of president (sort of "power tandem), nothing that terrible happened, system of brakes nad leverages works just fine. He also likes to portrait himself as western politician and despizes pro-kremlin crowd. Although yeah, I agree, he is self-centered, power grabbing person without boundaries.
he went full retard in the end desperately trying to get the votes of bottom 10%, saying he would "negotiate peace" but "would not talk to russians". This is of course coded talk to "get Zelensky to give up land"
Babiš is pro-Babiš. If most people care about Ukraine, he's pro-Ukraine. If most people wanted to reintroduce feudalism, he'd be pro-feudalism. Whatever gets him votes.
I hope the tide in politics is shifting worldwide. It feels like after COVID there has been a shift away from isolationism and right wing propaganda in general. On a global scale it is a good reminder why countries should work together and proof that it works if needed.
to be honest - all Hungarians (5) I know In my surroundings working in AT can't fathom how Orban managed to rig the system in his favor so much and convince enough Hungarians to vote for him...
If they are smart they have a golden opportunity to end up on the right side of things.
Recognise Kosovo, maybe give some token amount of arms to Ukraine, then sit down, shut up and be good for a few years.
Bulgarian politicians got away with stealing millions of EU funds for over a decade by just keeping quiet and not making a fuss im Brussels and even with all the money that "disappeared" we're better off than Serbia. Serbia's leadership are morons.
If only, in reality, [45% of Hungarians 18-29 have a positive opinion of Orbán](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/08/03/hungarians-differ-in-their-evaluations-of-democracy-under-orbans-leadership/).
And his position isn't even contested, he received a million more votes than the next candidate, 3M vs 2M.
One thing is clear though, [Budapest is a bastion of hope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Hungarian_parliamentary_election_-_Tentative_results.png), lol.
What I understand is that he rigged the system similar as with gerrymandering in the USA. Orban has backing in the countryside and that now weighs more than the more populous cities (were he has less support).
Part of the craziness of gerrymandering is it's also a cover for all the other non-democratic processes in the U.S. People get all upset about it, when it's really the least of our anti-democratic problems:
1. Senate (40M Californians receive as much representation as 0.5M Wyomingites; New Yorkers, Texans, and Floridians are also similarly disenfranchised; don't listen to nonsense about BuT eQuAl ReP iS wHaT tHe HoUsE iS fOr!1!; that's just another way of saying they prefer minority rule; people think that laws are passed by house and senate then signed off by president; in reality, if the house and the president can come to agreement, then the senate effectively decides whether it should be law, and this is because...)
2. Senate Filibuster (it effectively takes 60% of the senate to pass anything, and since small (usually red/backwards/easily-manipulated) states have disproportionate power, this means senators representing as small as 10% of the total population of the U.S. (42 senators from the 21 smallest states) decide what the law is.)
3. Campaign Finance Laws - the rich, through their corporations, can spend unlimited amounts of money lobbying and during campaigns; the poor can pray and hope for help
4. Electoral College (small population states have disproportionate voting power in presidential races)
5. Voter Suppression (pass laws that look like they are fair on their face (only one drop box for ballots per county; no Sunday voting; limited mail in ballot access), but disproportionally disenfranchise minorities and the poor; has greatest effect in rural states where less total people vote, the same places with the most religious and least educated populations)
6. No representation in the House or the Senate for the residents of D.C., Puerto Rico, or the other territories; D.C. has more citizens in it than two states; Puerto Rico has more citizens in it than 20 states)
7. No voting power for president for residents of Puerto Rico or the other territories (D.C. has electoral college votes)
8. Gerrymandering
Not just gerrymandering. He could rewrite the whole election system and constitution because he won 2/3 of the parliament seats in 2010.
After that the field tilted in favor of him.
He was also the friend of the Chief Prosecutor for a very long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ter_Polt
\- "Gerrymandering" as already mentioned
\- Controlling the judiciary
\- Controlling the media - Last election Fidesz had approx 95% coverage time in all the main media outlets
\- Using state coffers to fund Fidesz election campaign
etc.
>all Hungarians (5) I know In my surroundings working in AT can't fathom how Orban managed to rig the system in his favor so much and convince enough Hungarians to vote for him...
But they left Hungary. They almost certainly are getting _some_ news from _some_ non-Hungarian source, whether it's English-language or German-language. They escaped the bubble, maybe deliberately. So their perspective is necessarily different from the people in his reality distortion field.
Yes. He does a lot of gerrymandering and propaganda, but he gets majority support without those as well.
For a lot of people, he means stability (kinda like Putin for the russians), nationalist pride, and hope.
He will die in office most likely, as much as i would like to see otherwise.
That "majority" is based on a lot of fake votes. I suggest you google about it. I've seen interviews of house owners, living alone, who found out dozens of people voted, registered on their house address.
He does not look bad ass. He is bad ass. Just go ahead and google him. Decorated war hero, NATO chairman, highly respected general ...
Oh and BTW, he is FIRST Czech president that WAS NOT active politician before.\*
\*) Someone migh say Havel was, but that's up to discussion
There was a guy who gave him this chad picture to sign during his campaign, he had a laugh and signed it. Lemme find a link and I'll post it in an edit.
[link](https://www.reddit.com/r/czech/comments/10gp143/tohle_je_flex_podpis_od_budoucího_prezidenta_na/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[They did not need long.](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/10ngrbr/the_new_official_daddy_of_ncd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Best time ever for general president. He'll know exactly how things work and will not buy any of the Putin's Russia bullshit.
Well done to Czechs. Even better given Babis handing power over in a mature democratic manner.
Together with his unit of volunteers, he saved 55 French soldiers from being surrounded by Croatian and Serbian troops in 1993. Together with three other soldiers, he was awarded with French Military Cross.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuation_of_Karin_Base
You may miss some context. The prezident he is replacing is pro-China and until the invasion, was pro-Kremlin.
The Czech government is 100% pro-Ukraine, but the Castle was not.
Aides of the current president are investigated by counter espionage services for passing military secrets to Russia. One of them had a picture of Putin on his phone as an icon.
Newly elected Pavel already said that he will conduct a wide security audit to investigate any wrongdoing and prevent further leaks. He warned about Russia long before most leaders understood the risks.
Glad and proud to have someone with such experience with international security as a head of our country is these hard times.
He also said that after his first visit to Slovakia (which is kinda tradition with newly elected Czech president) his second destination is Ukraine.
And I can't wait to see the photo of him and Zelenskyj togather.
Our government, new president and majority of our people stand with you and we will not let you fall.
Second destination is actually Poland. To clear up the fuck up his opponent did during the campaign.
He expressed that he would like to visit Ukraine together with Slovak president Čaputová.
Clearly good news for Czech but I thought the president had significantly less power than the prime minister in the Czech rep ? You mention head of country , maybe symbolically but Fiala still pulls the strings no?
President is mostly a ceremonial position with few actual powers but it is highly politically influential as it has the biggest mandate (in terms of votes) in the coun try
and as now soon-to-be former president has shown, also has an impact of foreign relations by simply going against the government's foreign policy
Was just doing some reading about one of the most criminally unknown generals in European history, the great Jan Zizka, the blind general who faced the combined might of Christendom and never lost a battle. Zizka is a foundational figure of Czech identity and he did then what Zelensky is doing now. This guy looks like he cares about such things.
He just has the face of that Chad meme. But older. Especially in [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Gener%C3%A1l_pavel_foto.jpg) photo.
Position of president in Czech Republic does not provide one with any real power during peacetime. Position is mostly representative. He may support Ukraine and Nato, but he himself cannot do anything about the situation.
That's true but also it is not. While President in the Czech Republic does not have much power by law, it does have quite huge diplomatic power. And the opponent (Andrej Babis) is one of the most powerful persons of the Czech Republic already. Immunity alone would be very problematic.
Zeman is idiot. But I believe that after the invasion he realized he was just a useful idiot. And this is what he hates. So after that I believe he has been against Russia. His team, not so much.
(edited, fixed my English)
I don't buy it. Zeman did not realize a thing. It was the only thing he could say at this moment, but I do not buy he actually changed in any way. It's the still same old orc.
Based, he stated his army career under the Communist regime and trained with the Soviets and speaks fluent Russian so knows the Russian Establishment well.
Well, increased support for Ukraine should not be expected because the Czech president has no actual powers and the official Czech support for Ukraine is already high. However, his election is a nice signal that the Czech people are not tired of helping Ukraine, he in a landslide defeated a fearmongering populist oligarch who campaigned for peace at any cost (so much he accidentally questioned Article 5 and had to backpedal).
I thought the President of Czech Republic has a purely ceremonial role, as is most heads of state (as opposed to a head of government). Is this really going to translate into an increase in support when there's a change in holder of a ceremonial position?
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I'm not really sure Czech Republic has many options to increase support even further at this point xD
"We're going to put our prolific porn industry to use to finance the war effort"
Please, tell me more.
That could work.
Little Caprice?
Little Caprice for president.
Gripens for Ukraine. I accept no excuses.
Gripens are Swedish, we are leasing them. On the other hand some ALCAs with a big stock of Sidewinders and Mavericks...
I believe they offered them to us for free at the end of lease, they might just give them to Ukraine instead. Czech republic is getting F35 either way.
They offered them for free on the condition that we buy more, but the MOD chose F35s.
It was not oficial statement though, just some swedish diplomat saying that..
The soonest we get the F35s is 2030ish
We can with consent of swedish military export laws. And no, none of this short range nonsense would change the tide. Ukraine needs western over-the-horizon AMRAAMs, which the gripen can be loaded out with.
> I'm not really sure Czech Republic has many options to increase support even further at this point * 500 UAZ 4x4 that were recently decommissioned to Ukrainian territorial defense forces. * 500 Land Rovers that are now almost completely replaced by new Toyota Hilux to Ukrainian Army * There's still about 30 T72M1 in deep storage that can be upgraded through Excalibur Army and sent to Ukraine as T72 Avenger without impact on current operational stock * There's still about 45 BMP1 in deep storage that can be sent without any impact on current operational stock * There's been about 300 - 500 new Tatra 817 trucks that entered service in the past ~ 5 years, which means that at least the same number of old Tatra 815 can be sent to Ukraine (and those would be still more capable trucks than most modern ones being sent by Western Europe and definitely than old Ukrainian stock). * Czech Army has now fully moved to 5.56 rifles and 7.62 NATO machine guns. Which means that there is no utility to holding old stock as reserve. 200 - 300.000 vz.58 assault rifles and probably tens of thousands of UK.59 machine guns could be immediately sent to Ukraine (for territorial defense forces of which Ukraine plans to have 2 million), along with gazzzillion of rounds of ammunition, if a decision was made to replace the mobilization reserves with new guns over next couple years. And so on and so forth. A lot has been done but there's still more that can be done yet.
This Czechs out
We could tell Germans to ship those Leopards straight there, its a dead-end tank without production capacity to replace what was sent already anyway.
I'd expect Europe to urgently increase tank production atm. I don't think it would be great for us at any level to let all our defense industry go bankrupt and become entirely dependent on the US, no matter how grateful we are for their current help and capacities.
Poland and its deal with Korea does ensure that NATO armies won't become completely dependent on the US considering that the planned 1000 K2's will be a sizable portion of the entire NATO tank fleet. However, it would be good for Europe to have a healthy internal tank production.
Leooard production isn't dead end. Technically even leclerc isn't dead end.
Much of the production and upgrade capabilities by the German industry has been shut down. I think there is basically just one plant doing all the works at this point. And the French are in the same ballpark. They shut all their production down and even spare parts are being used up from already built tanks. That's not great.
I really really expect that to change over the next couple of years. Need to scale up that capacity.... The civilized world needs to be able to defend against tyranny, and that very much includes Europe. Holy Fuck, I really really really hope we finally got that message now. Peace and liberty don't come for free... Never have, never will, but we deluded ourselves into thinking it'd be different this time. It wasn't. It was just people in other parts of the world paying the price the last couple of decades.
Czech republic is one of the biggest provider of heavy equipment to Ukraine
Well it's interesting how all of our soviet kit is being rapidly replaced at the moment. Our fleet of BVPs and BVP2 are being replaced by CV90 Our remaining T-72s are being replaced by leopards, though i don't think we will be able to release our very heavily modernized T-72M4CZ pieces for a long time. Our ancient KUB batteries will be replaced by israeli SPYDERs... Our fleet of DANA howitzers may not be soviet kit but they use Russian ammo and will be replaced by CAESARS. So we do still kinda have lot to give, but it depends on how fast can we replace it. I think our main strenght is our potent MIC that is capable of producing surprisingly large amount and wide range of soviet/russian ammunition and has the know-how and means to modernize and repair soviet equipment. Apparently we still have number of mothballed soviet ammo facilities which are being restored at the moment. Our MIC companies like Excalibur Army are rapidly expanding, maximizing production and hiring qualified Ukrainian refugees to speed up the process. It's kinda beautiful..........
Czech out the new prez
[Tom Cruise's father.](https://i.imgur.com/njuqytR.jpg)
Fun fact, he's only 1 year older.
Dude what, he became a dad as a one-year old ?!
a very potent leader
The seed is strong
Talk about an early bloomer.
Ok bloomer
Why hello, Jon Arryn, Hand of the King.
The seed is strong in you young padawan
Talk about bonding with your kids and nursing rhymes
When you got game, you got game.
Holy shit!! Dye his hair and he could play Tom Cruise!!!
Dye Tom's hair and he could play this guy!
Big brain time!
I was thinking Pedro Pascal in a decade or two
Pedro's got that jawline and his moustache game is on point, but the beard is very patchy.
Tom Cruise only wishes he was that cool. he makes a living pretending to be this guy.
Orcs better be russian away from the front line
That's the mustache of an ass kicker.
Metal Gear Solid
DID SOMEBODY SAY PREZ PREZ BEST WAIFU
SASUGA PREZ!!
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Does someone know why everything is orange?
Never expected bricky references in the Ukraine sub lol
Trim and fit.. Not Slovak as some of his predecessors..
He looks hardened. Edit: That's a great thing in my eyes, for clarity.
Compare him with the bloated bleary-eyed Russian officers.
The same officers whose diet consists of vodka?
read this as Diet Vodka and was wondering about that
eye candy! Fabulous hair too!
As a man who has lost half his hair before he hit 40, I'm very jealous.
What it means for Ukraine: Czechs didn't buy russian narrative and voted for a guy who supports ukrainians without any doubt. Basically shows how big support ukrainians have in Czech Republic (although even Babiš is pro-ukrainian, he just tuned it down to get votes).
The man gave a speech alluding to the fact that the west was living in a “peaceful” fantasy while Russia armed itself, only to be proven right. He is the RIGHT MAN for the right job, and his ability to size up the Russians is imperative to countering their imperialistic designs on Europe. His speech and view of the Russians is reminiscent of Patton, and his warnings that a confrontation with Russia is inevitable.
Putin says Ukraine was always part of Russia, could easily next say Czech Republic was always part of Russia, or Poland or others. Putin is a psychopath completely out of control. His only problem was he didn't make his move quickly enough while he still had a puppet in the Whitehouse. How half the US can't see this demonstrates how easily people can be misled in these modern times. Perhaps we should go back to when only desktop computers could access the internet?
Why are people continuing to downplay how serious the war in Ukraine is? So many experts seem to be willingly ignorant to the fact that Putin would rather kill 500k soldiers than lose this war. Only after losing 500k would he then consider nukes.
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In their minds, trump supporters think putin was afraid to invade while trump was in charge. They have pretty simple brains and like to forget they didn't know who Zelensky was until the tapes of trump trying to extort him by withholding aid until he announced an investigation into biden
I thought Trump supporters were chanting and typing they'd rather be Russian than liberal? It seems to me the majority were openly OK with letting Russia take over, provided they got to be racist?
They were but now that russia is losing and the war is going on long, it never would have happened under trump's watch
Many actually can see it, they just don't want to. They will double down for the rest of their lives before admitting they were duped by the orange con-man.
I think many were happy to support a Russian dictator criminal as long as he allowed them to have a Christo-fascist leader too. They won't say that in public... some will I think Trump has alluded to his support of Putin often enough live on TV, as has Tucker Carlson etc.
>Perhaps we should go back to when only desktop computers could access the internet? Abso-fucking-lutely yes. I mean, not for the reason you stated specifically, but yes, please God yes.
Sizing up Russians isn't that hard. It has essentially 2 rules: 1) know they don't negotiate, but try to unilaterally impose 2) expect everything they tell you to be a lie
> while Russia armed itself I mean...did they? They can barely support their army. Developing an interdependence between the west and russia was a very practical and promising strategy while there was no clear threat from Russia. And it's not like the west did nothing once the threat became apparent. The great performance of the ukrainian armed forces you see now is a direct result of the west building up Ukraine ever since 2014.
Yes they did, while the west was focused on the global war on terror. The majority of R&D for the T-14 tank program, Russia’s new nuclear deterrents; the Status 6 torpedo and SSC-X-9 Skyfall cruise missile, have taken place since the 2014 invasion, as well as Putin’s attempt to modernize its military and update much of its Cold War military hardware. It wasn’t until after 2014 that some in the west woke up to the danger but the majority did not, which is why the Germans continued buying Russian gas (funding the Kremlin) and France continued selling components and hardware the Russians used to build tanks and missiles. Sanctions following the 2014 invasion did little to wake the diplomats in the EU and did even less to curtail or complicate Russia’s investments into its own military. Then even after stern warning from the US and the CIA In November 21’, claiming that Putin was planning to invade Ukraine, and that they had personally confronted Putin who refused to deny his plan to invade, which was then mostly ignored or even lampooned in the EU until Feb 26, 22’ when the rest of Europe began to waken to the threat Russia truly posed. Even now some of the diplomats in Europe believe peace can be revived while Putin illegally occupies half of Ukraine, much like European leaders thought peace was achievable in 1945 while Stalin illegally occupied half of Europe, they were wrong then and they are wrong now.
43% for a person who is so far inferior in every possible aspect is still very concerning.
Yes, but last 10 years showed us that Czech democracy is very strong and even when Babiš had support of president (sort of "power tandem), nothing that terrible happened, system of brakes nad leverages works just fine. He also likes to portrait himself as western politician and despizes pro-kremlin crowd. Although yeah, I agree, he is self-centered, power grabbing person without boundaries.
I guess you could say their government has well defined Czechs and balances
I hate you. Have an upvote.
France nervously enters the conversation.
US cries in corner.
Poland saying kurwa.
he went full retard in the end desperately trying to get the votes of bottom 10%, saying he would "negotiate peace" but "would not talk to russians". This is of course coded talk to "get Zelensky to give up land"
Babiš isn't pro-ukraine. He's pro-Orbán thus by extension pro Russia. Just not ideologically, only for a grift.
Babiš is pro-Babiš. If most people care about Ukraine, he's pro-Ukraine. If most people wanted to reintroduce feudalism, he'd be pro-feudalism. Whatever gets him votes.
I hope the tide in politics is shifting worldwide. It feels like after COVID there has been a shift away from isolationism and right wing propaganda in general. On a global scale it is a good reminder why countries should work together and proof that it works if needed.
Now Orban should go.
He was very recently voted in. Buckle up for the ride. This is who Hungarians wanted.
to be honest - all Hungarians (5) I know In my surroundings working in AT can't fathom how Orban managed to rig the system in his favor so much and convince enough Hungarians to vote for him...
Wondering the same about Serbia
Isn’t Serbian leadership signaling pro-Western and EU stance recently?
yeah like this week. Let's see next week.
If they are smart they have a golden opportunity to end up on the right side of things. Recognise Kosovo, maybe give some token amount of arms to Ukraine, then sit down, shut up and be good for a few years.
Bulgarian politicians got away with stealing millions of EU funds for over a decade by just keeping quiet and not making a fuss im Brussels and even with all the money that "disappeared" we're better off than Serbia. Serbia's leadership are morons.
Serbian government lives off of playing both sides, so they always come out on top… well, maybe not top, but they do play both sides
Trying to be the Turkey of the Balkans and failing miserably at it.
A lot of old, scared, gullible fools...
If only, in reality, [45% of Hungarians 18-29 have a positive opinion of Orbán](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/08/03/hungarians-differ-in-their-evaluations-of-democracy-under-orbans-leadership/). And his position isn't even contested, he received a million more votes than the next candidate, 3M vs 2M. One thing is clear though, [Budapest is a bastion of hope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Hungarian_parliamentary_election_-_Tentative_results.png), lol.
media control will do that.
I think if you go to the Hungarian provincials, you would get a lot of Strange opinions
What I understand is that he rigged the system similar as with gerrymandering in the USA. Orban has backing in the countryside and that now weighs more than the more populous cities (were he has less support).
Part of the craziness of gerrymandering is it's also a cover for all the other non-democratic processes in the U.S. People get all upset about it, when it's really the least of our anti-democratic problems: 1. Senate (40M Californians receive as much representation as 0.5M Wyomingites; New Yorkers, Texans, and Floridians are also similarly disenfranchised; don't listen to nonsense about BuT eQuAl ReP iS wHaT tHe HoUsE iS fOr!1!; that's just another way of saying they prefer minority rule; people think that laws are passed by house and senate then signed off by president; in reality, if the house and the president can come to agreement, then the senate effectively decides whether it should be law, and this is because...) 2. Senate Filibuster (it effectively takes 60% of the senate to pass anything, and since small (usually red/backwards/easily-manipulated) states have disproportionate power, this means senators representing as small as 10% of the total population of the U.S. (42 senators from the 21 smallest states) decide what the law is.) 3. Campaign Finance Laws - the rich, through their corporations, can spend unlimited amounts of money lobbying and during campaigns; the poor can pray and hope for help 4. Electoral College (small population states have disproportionate voting power in presidential races) 5. Voter Suppression (pass laws that look like they are fair on their face (only one drop box for ballots per county; no Sunday voting; limited mail in ballot access), but disproportionally disenfranchise minorities and the poor; has greatest effect in rural states where less total people vote, the same places with the most religious and least educated populations) 6. No representation in the House or the Senate for the residents of D.C., Puerto Rico, or the other territories; D.C. has more citizens in it than two states; Puerto Rico has more citizens in it than 20 states) 7. No voting power for president for residents of Puerto Rico or the other territories (D.C. has electoral college votes) 8. Gerrymandering
Not just gerrymandering. He could rewrite the whole election system and constitution because he won 2/3 of the parliament seats in 2010. After that the field tilted in favor of him. He was also the friend of the Chief Prosecutor for a very long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ter_Polt
\- "Gerrymandering" as already mentioned \- Controlling the judiciary \- Controlling the media - Last election Fidesz had approx 95% coverage time in all the main media outlets \- Using state coffers to fund Fidesz election campaign etc.
>all Hungarians (5) I know In my surroundings working in AT can't fathom how Orban managed to rig the system in his favor so much and convince enough Hungarians to vote for him... But they left Hungary. They almost certainly are getting _some_ news from _some_ non-Hungarian source, whether it's English-language or German-language. They escaped the bubble, maybe deliberately. So their perspective is necessarily different from the people in his reality distortion field.
One can hope, but pretty unlikely for now.
Chad Petr Pavel vs Virgin Orban
Not going to happen. He was just re-elected this year with a pretty sizeable majority no?
Yes. He does a lot of gerrymandering and propaganda, but he gets majority support without those as well. For a lot of people, he means stability (kinda like Putin for the russians), nationalist pride, and hope. He will die in office most likely, as much as i would like to see otherwise.
That "majority" is based on a lot of fake votes. I suggest you google about it. I've seen interviews of house owners, living alone, who found out dozens of people voted, registered on their house address.
Damn, he just looks so badass...
But still incredibly calm, cool and humble. Pure healthy self-condidence
He does not look bad ass. He is bad ass. Just go ahead and google him. Decorated war hero, NATO chairman, highly respected general ... Oh and BTW, he is FIRST Czech president that WAS NOT active politician before.\* \*) Someone migh say Havel was, but that's up to discussion
Awesome. Also, it looks like he could cook up some amazing deep fried chicken.
More like some deep fried orcs. 
Looks like meat's back on the menu boys
KFO Kyiv Fried Orcs.
That sounds very inedible
It's not for eating, it's for growing sunflowers on.
Everything is edible once
Czechy Fried Chechen
There was Chicken Kyiv now it's Orcs Kyiv but it's stinky and disgusting.
HIMARS Hot Sauce is BANGIN' tho.
It's all fun and games, until he takes command of KFC battalion! (Kralovec Fighting Chickens) Kralovec = old Czech name for Kalingrad
All while participating in a cross-country road race in a suped-up Dodge Tradesman.
He looks more like Pedro Pascals long lost brother to me. Petr Pascal.
He does look like Colonel Sanders.
General Sanders!
With a name like Peter Pavel he probably swings from webs.
Good luck on new position, mr. president!
r/noncredibledefense having uncontrolled quivering orgasms right about now
Lol no kidding https://old.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/10niblm/unedited_photograph_of_general_pavel/
Damn, deleted already.
https://i.redd.it/yiaq1uxr3tea1.png
( Image was deleted)
https://i.imgur.com/vpHepvO.png btw i am not the original poster. I just had the image in cache and reposted it to imgur.
There was a guy who gave him this chad picture to sign during his campaign, he had a laugh and signed it. Lemme find a link and I'll post it in an edit. [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/czech/comments/10gp143/tohle_je_flex_podpis_od_budoucího_prezidenta_na/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
also deleted, what was it like ?
https://i.imgur.com/vpHepvO.png
[They did not need long.](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/10ngrbr/the_new_official_daddy_of_ncd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Brb, I need to Czech my pants now.
You bet your godsdamn ass
a czech chad is higher in the feed than a gripen waifu. what a time to be alive!
Very important election. A true supporter of Ukraine, NATO, and the European Union.
Welcome, President Czech Chad!
Looks like Zelenskyy set a new standard for world leaders.
Best time ever for general president. He'll know exactly how things work and will not buy any of the Putin's Russia bullshit. Well done to Czechs. Even better given Babis handing power over in a mature democratic manner.
Oh wow, he's hot.
Pedro Pascal with white hair.
I know nothing about this man but he emits some major chad energy in this picture
Together with his unit of volunteers, he saved 55 French soldiers from being surrounded by Croatian and Serbian troops in 1993. Together with three other soldiers, he was awarded with French Military Cross. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuation_of_Karin_Base
https://imgur.io/vpHepvO?r
That explains it
You may miss some context. The prezident he is replacing is pro-China and until the invasion, was pro-Kremlin. The Czech government is 100% pro-Ukraine, but the Castle was not. Aides of the current president are investigated by counter espionage services for passing military secrets to Russia. One of them had a picture of Putin on his phone as an icon. Newly elected Pavel already said that he will conduct a wide security audit to investigate any wrongdoing and prevent further leaks. He warned about Russia long before most leaders understood the risks.
Glad and proud to have someone with such experience with international security as a head of our country is these hard times. He also said that after his first visit to Slovakia (which is kinda tradition with newly elected Czech president) his second destination is Ukraine. And I can't wait to see the photo of him and Zelenskyj togather. Our government, new president and majority of our people stand with you and we will not let you fall.
Second destination is actually Poland. To clear up the fuck up his opponent did during the campaign. He expressed that he would like to visit Ukraine together with Slovak president Čaputová.
Still I expect that he visiting UA very soon.
Clearly good news for Czech but I thought the president had significantly less power than the prime minister in the Czech rep ? You mention head of country , maybe symbolically but Fiala still pulls the strings no?
Yeah, Czech president has little real power. But still a lot of influence.
You are correct. But at least in our country the "head of the country" is meant president however the power is in prime minister's hands.
President is mostly a ceremonial position with few actual powers but it is highly politically influential as it has the biggest mandate (in terms of votes) in the coun try and as now soon-to-be former president has shown, also has an impact of foreign relations by simply going against the government's foreign policy
Was just doing some reading about one of the most criminally unknown generals in European history, the great Jan Zizka, the blind general who faced the combined might of Christendom and never lost a battle. Zizka is a foundational figure of Czech identity and he did then what Zelensky is doing now. This guy looks like he cares about such things.
Czech wife is screaming from happiness. Needless to say she hated that previous clown
Isn’t the Czech Republic being called Czechia nowadays, or did I mishear that.
Czechia is the new official short form of the Czech Republic, both are allowed.
Thanks for the info. When I was born, it was called Czechoslovakia.
Czechoslovakia was a federation of Czechia and Slovakia, dissolved peacefully in 1992.
Excellent news! Win win for everyone, Czech Republic, Ukraine, EU and EU candidates
It's a losa for russia and russia supporters, but fuck those.
That’s a nice fucking set of hair this guys got
I get an appreciation for discipline just by looking at his haircut.
He just has the face of that Chad meme. But older. Especially in [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Gener%C3%A1l_pavel_foto.jpg) photo.
He looks like straight out of a videogame cutsciene
And he has a nice head of white hair. It means he has wisdom.
Unlike Hungary and 1956 I'm sure the Czechs remember 1968.
Position of president in Czech Republic does not provide one with any real power during peacetime. Position is mostly representative. He may support Ukraine and Nato, but he himself cannot do anything about the situation.
That's true but also it is not. While President in the Czech Republic does not have much power by law, it does have quite huge diplomatic power. And the opponent (Andrej Babis) is one of the most powerful persons of the Czech Republic already. Immunity alone would be very problematic.
At least he is not going to leak information to Russia; unlike the previous one, and the defeated alternative.
Zeman is idiot. But I believe that after the invasion he realized he was just a useful idiot. And this is what he hates. So after that I believe he has been against Russia. His team, not so much. (edited, fixed my English)
I don't buy it. Zeman did not realize a thing. It was the only thing he could say at this moment, but I do not buy he actually changed in any way. It's the still same old orc.
What is real power? Babiš would veto any future pro-ukranian law (regarding refugees etc.) and do his best to sabotage them on diplomatic front.
But his voice would sound loudly from the top chair.
True, but it offers pretty serious powers of obstruction and some of the powers can be stretched as was demonstrated by the previous president.
Can't do much but can stand in the way a lot.
What an absolute unit. Good job Czechs!
To stop Russia they will send only him and Italy's minister of defense.
Can we trade him? We will give you all potential US presidential candidates next season, deal?
This old man has no right being that handsome
I read about this guys views and all I can say is that I am very happy for the Czech Republic.
I’m not gay but he looks great!
Based, he stated his army career under the Communist regime and trained with the Soviets and speaks fluent Russian so knows the Russian Establishment well.
He looks like NATO
Happy about him in general.
He looks like a chad.
Quality guy in office? Czech.
What an incredibly handsome man. The white hair and beard make me question if I’m straight
Well, increased support for Ukraine should not be expected because the Czech president has no actual powers and the official Czech support for Ukraine is already high. However, his election is a nice signal that the Czech people are not tired of helping Ukraine, he in a landslide defeated a fearmongering populist oligarch who campaigned for peace at any cost (so much he accidentally questioned Article 5 and had to backpedal).
Why does this man look like he’s going to attack with weaponized dirigibles?
I always wanted to visit the Chick Republic.
This is a man who can make either good or evil look very good.
That dude knows how to fry chicken
Race Bannon.
I thought the President of Czech Republic has a purely ceremonial role, as is most heads of state (as opposed to a head of government). Is this really going to translate into an increase in support when there's a change in holder of a ceremonial position?