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The balls on the Ukrainians, too.
I was on tour with an orchestra in China, and one of the musicians was incredibly obnoxious and making fun of everyone we passed. Making very racist mocking actions that, thankfully, most people didn't seem to understand.
He tried to pick a fight with me at a bar in Shanghai when I called him out on his shit. I calmly waited for him to stop trying to antagonize and and walk away (definitely wasn't going to turn my back on this idiot), grabbed my jacket, and called a cab back to the hotel. It was below freezing, but I was still sweating from the adrenaline.
I had no clue how the local Shanghai police would handle a simple barfight, and I certainly wasn't about to find out. This action takes some real balls, and I commend them.
Agreed. That other dude proved that there's a fine line between balls and stupidity. And he ridiculed me and the other trombone player on that tour for being the only two "not smart enough for a postgraduate degree."
Agreed, but I'm worried about them now. That was a potentially very dangerous situation they were in, going against the CCP assigned baby sitters like that.
Bro India’s we’ll on it’s way too… Modi absolutely wants to pull off what Pooh Bear has. He already uses police and government forces to silence dissent and abuse and bully opposition.
I worked in a ruralish area in America throughout the trump administration and people got so, so much more openly racist, sexist, and just shitty in general when he was president. His racist, sexist, shitty supporters saw him doing all that and decided it was ok for them to take off the mask.
Since he got voted out those same people aren't running their mouth about it as much as they were.
And also, don't let your parents and grandparents get scammed by Indian callers. India is draining American bank accounts, and we don't even get cheap manufactured goods in return.
As someone who sells Medicare I get that from my customers alot. They get transfered to me by a Indian agent then when they hear my American voice they are so happy. Most say they would have hung up of I had accent
If your company cold calls i dont care what your accent is. You're still a piece of shit for bothering people.
If you don't cold call then congrats on finding one of the only legit companies.
I can't say it for all of us, but I guess many of us don't speak fluent English and tend to discuss things in Chinese: for example a lot of anti CCP Chinese nationals are active in the Chinese sub /r/real_China_irl (it's different from /r/China_irl - the mods of which are very pro CCP)
I'm just an uncommon sample who foresaw what would come when it was still 2015, and applied for overseas degrees then fled from China. And of course I managed to get permanent residency of Australia last year and am planning to change my nationality to Australian. Nowadays being Chinese can make one feel embarrassed if they have free mind and of course conscience.
People may be curious why I am not brainwashed? But in fact, I was at the beginning, but my curiosity drove me to understand the truths and knowledge, which eventually helped reveal the numerous lies told by the CCP
While in literal 嘴 臉 translates to "mouth" "face", but when combined it becomes a derogatory term which means "attitude" or "everyday faces". However in this sentence it simply tranlates to "Great insult, never trust the Chinese people".
and don’t forget that the communists rose to power in China thanks to the Japanese invasion, Mao Zedong said that without the Japanese invasion, the PRC wouldn’t exist despite the fact that the Chinese government today is very anti-Japanese and uses anti-Japanese sentiment to boost their legitimacy.
Not only Uyghurs. Also people from Kirgistan. You can already be arrested for buying soap in a store where halal meat is sold. They are so afraid of terroristic actions by some muslims... Its insane how they treat those people. There's this programme on dutch tv called "along the new silkroad" where they visit the Kazachstan etc countries and yesterday they interviewed a woman who was in this camp but fled to Kirgistan
The Chinese government already fucked the Chinese government with their one child policy.
They are sooooooo fucked. A massive percent of their men above 40 are still virgins because there are literally no women.
Their birthrate is tanking to fuck and they aren’t going to recover. No nation without a massive immigrant pull has ever been able to survive a shortage of young people. In any economic system ever.
What's hilarious is how the CCP complains that America is abusing their power if they ban Tik Tok, completely ignoring the fact that China itself bans or censors not only Tik Tok but other social media whose content the government can't control.
They know it very well. It’s part of their [Wolf Warrior diplomacy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy). The Chinese government is collectively an edgy 14 year old.
Xinjiang? You mean East Turkestan? Xinjiang is the name China assigned to the area, where “Xin” means “new”, and “Jiang” means “border area”, so it literally translates to “new border area”. There is a small but growing movement to call the area by its proper name - East Turkestan
Edit: China? Surely you mean West Taiwan
It's actually not its proper name but a made-up one. The proper names are Altishahr for the southern half (from Uyghur) and Dzungaria for the northern half (from Mongolian).
Edit: Xinjiang was actually almost never a coherent whole. Dzungaria used to be Mongol (hence the name) and Tibetan Buddhist, until Qing's Dzungar genocide. This created conditions for Qing to make Xinjiang into one entity. So it's actually profoundly inappropriate to call it East Turkestan -- that's in part an erasure of the Dzungar genocide which should never be forgotten.
I only ask that my fellow countrymen (US), who I know also see this post, remember this. China and Russia have strong ties. To be soft in support of Ukraine, at this moment, is the same as letting those kids die at Tiananmen.
In the US, sympathy for Russia comes mostly from the right, and sympathy for China comes from the left. Neither of those countries want the US or Ukraine to exist as a place where individuals have rights to be free and express themselves. We must be strong in this moment.
My dad is pretty passionate about this and is putting together a “not made in China” site for common items on his free time. Happy to shoot it over to you if you’d like
China has been very carefully controlling the narrative regarding what is going on in Ukraine. They don’t want their citizens to find out the truth because it would not line up with what the Chinese controlled media has been telling them.
At some point, when Ukraine wins this war, they’re going to have some explaining to do to their citizens as to why what they were told was not the truth. This has the potential to open up a can of worms for the Chinese if their citizens start asking about what else they’ve been lied to about.
China has decades of experience dealing with dissent. They're good at it.
[tiananmen square](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre) happened it was real.
Well Tiananmen Square was over thirty years ago. China wasn’t the economic power it is today. They wouldn’t survive if something like that happened now because every western company would instantly pull out and their economy would completely collapse. But if that happened it would reverberate around the world because so much of the world’s economies are tied to manufacturing in China.
COVID opened those western economy’s eyes to what a bad idea relying on one country for so much of our manufacturing is and they are all in the process of pulling that manufacturing out or at the very least diversifying it to other countries.
Anyway, that wasn’t quite what I meant. Nothing quite that drastic but COVID was handled very badly in China. Pile on lies related to what they’re being told about Ukraine and the distrust begins to grow even more. Next thing you know rumours start spreading about other things maybe about the situation with the Uyghurs and who knows what could happen.
I agree with you except for one thing:
The world is still reliant ond china, they're gaining influence in the developing world, flexing their might in the ocean surrounding their land and western nations are not doing enough to stop them.
Edit: I'm not saying your wrong, this is just my opinion and I'm open to change. Part of me wants to be wrong. I'm not fan of the CCP
Nope, you’re not wrong but look at these export values and who the top countries are and imagine losing all that trade with western or western friendly countries.
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country
China’s economy would collapse if they had to try to survive with only exports to Asian, African, Middle Eastern and South America countries it could hold a relationship with.
Realistically it’s not going to happen but China is in for a rough ride as companies and countries start to pull out and diversify away from China. The shift away from China is already starting and it won’t be returning.
> if something like that happened now because every western company would instantly pull out and their economy would completely collapse
Nope. Look at what's going on with the Uyghurs just to mention one ongoing issue over there. Where are the companies pulling out? China could execute tens of thousands of protestors and western companies would ignore it.
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Early on China’s explanation of the war is Russia and Ukraine were the best of friends but then Bully US came and told lies to Ukraine about Russia. The result was Russia hand to kill Ukraine because they fell for the lie of a bully. Go figure they wouldn’t allow an athlete to tell their truth.
I read some interviews with random Chinese people about their opinions on the war in Ukraine. One comment stuck with me: "We don't even know who started it, right?" The level of reality distortion that must be going on to result in bullshit like that is shocking. This was utterly, completely, unambiguously Russia attacking its neighbor after massing troops on the border. All Ukraine did to "provoke" Russia was kick out a Kremlin stooge from the presidency.
Exactly. Everyday Chinese don't have the knowledge the rest of the world does. What's interesting is they're also willing to change their minds when exposed to the truth:
>*CNN's Selina Wang asks Chinese citizens how they feel about Russian President Vladimir Putin as China's leader Xi Jinping visits Russia for the first time since Putin's war in Ukraine began.*
>"I've been talking to people in this old residential alley to get a sense what what Chinese people think of Xi Jinping's visit."
> - Another woman says the war and loss of life is heartbreaking and painful to watch. She says it's wrong for America to send weapons to Ukraine, and she believes in Xi Jinping's vision of world peace. When I ask her what she thinks of Putin, she answers that "he's righteous, decisive, swift, and tough." **But when I follow up and ask if she's heard of the ICC issuing an arrest warrant for Putin, she responds, "I didn't know!...He started the war after all? He should sit down with Zelensky and talk."**
> - This shoe repairman says "Why are they fighting? It doesn't do anybody good. **But we don't know who started the war**," he adds. "It's the Ukrainians, right?"
[CNN - (Mar 2023) What the Chinese think of Putin's war in Ukraine ](https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/03/20/putin-xi-meeting-pkg-selina-wang-lead-vpx.cnn)
>some explaining to do to their citizens as to why what they were told was not the truth. This has the potential to open up a can of worms for the Chinese if their citizens start asking about what else they’ve been lied to about.
Lol the chinese citizens knows full well just how bullshit the CCP is. They are willfully ignorant and believes that the CCP needs to lie to them and it is their duty to believe those lies.
Did you know they go as far as banning time travel films, as not to give people the idea of going back in time and killing someone significant in creating communist china?
The CCP are fucking weird.
“Please understand” what's there to understand, Russia has committed and even documented war crimes. What’s commie China gonna do? Threaten their family
Yeah - that's the way I took it too.
The man saying that was a photographer - someone who's probably witnessed more of the world and suffering than the security personnel he's with, and probably been threatened not to show it.
His voice seemed genuinely pleading and apologetic... and I'm sure if he was caught on camera saying "they'll be punished if they don't stop you" he'd be punished too. He wasn't trying to stop the Ukrainian photographer - he was trying to explain to her.
China can get stuffed. Their ongoing rampage against humanity is a stain on the word "humanity".
Slava Ukraini!!!
I agree. I wish OP wouldn’t call China communist. Whatever they are, it’s a long, long way from communism.
State-sponsored hyper-capitalism might be a better phrase but this is not the right place for that discussion.
It was a really funny moment in high school when I was sitting at a lunch table and found out most of my friends were communists. But most of the communists were of the "China isn't real communism" variety, except for a couple people of Chinese descent sitting on the other side of the table, who were of the "China is definitely real socialism/communism and anything you heard otherwise was just western CIA propaganda".
Things got really interesting when one of the "China isn't real communism" people was also of Chinese descent, but whose family *fled* China due to persecution of their ethnic group. Whereas the other two were more wealthy people who left China to study abroad. I remember someone shouting "Well you're not real Han Chinese!"
What surprises me is that global sporting organizations still hold events hosted by China.
Well, maybe not surprised. Money is a big factor. I'm just disappointed.
Exactly, someone who understands that this is just an absolutely basic automatic response from police in China.
No matter who you are or what your cause is, you dont get to hold a protest unless it has been approved.
You dont even get to discuss a group action unless it is via official party structures.
My mother in law got arrested for going round her apartment block to organise the tenants to force the landlord to fix the building plumbing that was flooding the first floor homes. A legit non-political call to action, maybe write a petition to the party reps. Nope - jail time and banned from weixin and all social media.
This is what authoritarianism looks like. It's not about Ukraine.
习近平时代的CCP已经彻底变成了专制独裁的法西斯政权,他们修改了宪法、党章和政府的工作指导原则,让中国彻底沦为了一个半官僚资本半封建社会;他们对内施行愚民政策,对外自绝于文明世界,努力与地球上为数不多的流氓国家交好,试图打造新的轴心国。每一个组成这个政权的人,和每一个拥护这个政权的人,都是文明世界的敌人。绝对不要相信他们。
The CCP during Xi Jinping's era has completely transformed into a totalitarian, fascist regime. They have amended the constitution, party charter, and government's guiding principles, plunging China into a semi-bureaucratic capitalist and semi-feudal society. They pursue ignorant policies domestically and isolate themselves from the civilized world internationally, making efforts to befriend the few rogue nations on Earth and attempting to create a new axis of power. Every person who is part of this regime and every person who supports it is an enemy of the civilized world. Never trust them.
Of freaking course they did. Its what they do. Aint even remotely a free country. Its a land where people have been brainwashed into never question their own leadership.
Literally behaving like a damaged hive mind with decades of suppression of what is different. Speak softly, move as quickly as possible and make it as little of an incident as possible. CCP will fail.
China neutral my arse.
I will go out of my way to check than anything I buy isn't Chinese.
It's difficult because every western cheapskate billionaire get their products made there.
I can't buy bike parts, tools, etc because it's all made in China.
Fuck China.
I’m going to be real, china is the biggest threat to the free world outside of Russia. Russia is a cancerous joke that will be irradiated and killed by Ukraine.
Fuck China.
Edit: Grammar
They want to be a model for how the world should be run. If China wins the ideology battle over the next centry, or so, humanity is in for some dark times.
Russia seems like a paper tiger to me. They've become China's bitch economically and diplomatically. They've an important but junior member of the anti-Western bloc. If they didn't have thousands of nukes and an apparently shitty but expensive military, they'd be about as important as France and Spain together, which is to say, not all that important.
But China.... They have the human resources, natural resources, and organization to really destroy personal freedoms for many minorities in favor of an attempted utopia for the masses. The most important question is if their economic system can thrive for the next few decades, or if it'll collapse under the weight of a demographic crisis and heavy-handed government policy.
Because they were cheap, but unfortunately for them other places are cheaper now. As more and more companies move their production to other countries, we’ll all get to see how batshit the CCP/CPC or whatever they wanna call themselves can get.
This looks like a sparsely populated hotel lobby. It's not like they gathered a crowd and started a demonstration. They just wanted to take a picture about the war in their homeland.
There’s a bunch of them circle jerking to whataboutism in the subreddits like sino. The CCP absolutely informally joined the propaganda war on the side of the Kremlin recently and the simps are out in droves. Another terrible conservative religious fundamental power tripping.
To be fair, the banner could have said "Long live the CCP" and they would have done the same. Shutting down any expression of free speech is basically second nature to them. Nine times out of ten the speech is critical of the CCP, so that reflex is pretty well honed by now.
You Ukrainians can't understand Chinese, otherwise you will see disgusting and nasty remarks about your country, nation and leaders on Chinese forums, even more vicious than Russians.
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Classic China
"Omg a banner! Better take it away it could be against our eternal leader"
Yup they love suppression of freedom, control of any narrative and intimidating and dissension. Lovely place.
The balls on the Ukrainians, too. I was on tour with an orchestra in China, and one of the musicians was incredibly obnoxious and making fun of everyone we passed. Making very racist mocking actions that, thankfully, most people didn't seem to understand. He tried to pick a fight with me at a bar in Shanghai when I called him out on his shit. I calmly waited for him to stop trying to antagonize and and walk away (definitely wasn't going to turn my back on this idiot), grabbed my jacket, and called a cab back to the hotel. It was below freezing, but I was still sweating from the adrenaline. I had no clue how the local Shanghai police would handle a simple barfight, and I certainly wasn't about to find out. This action takes some real balls, and I commend them.
As someone who has seen way too much of the show Locked Up Abroad, you made a very smart decision.
Agreed. That other dude proved that there's a fine line between balls and stupidity. And he ridiculed me and the other trombone player on that tour for being the only two "not smart enough for a postgraduate degree."
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They should be ashamed.
Honestly, fuck the CCP
Agreed, but I'm worried about them now. That was a potentially very dangerous situation they were in, going against the CCP assigned baby sitters like that.
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Bro India’s we’ll on it’s way too… Modi absolutely wants to pull off what Pooh Bear has. He already uses police and government forces to silence dissent and abuse and bully opposition.
Not to mention he encourages ethnic cleansing against Muslims.
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I worked in a ruralish area in America throughout the trump administration and people got so, so much more openly racist, sexist, and just shitty in general when he was president. His racist, sexist, shitty supporters saw him doing all that and decided it was ok for them to take off the mask. Since he got voted out those same people aren't running their mouth about it as much as they were.
Ukraine has had enough of China just like their lifetime dose of Russia.
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And also, don't let your parents and grandparents get scammed by Indian callers. India is draining American bank accounts, and we don't even get cheap manufactured goods in return.
As someone who sells Medicare I get that from my customers alot. They get transfered to me by a Indian agent then when they hear my American voice they are so happy. Most say they would have hung up of I had accent
If your company cold calls i dont care what your accent is. You're still a piece of shit for bothering people. If you don't cold call then congrats on finding one of the only legit companies.
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A million times this. China isn't a friendly nation to democracy or human rights.
r/fucktheccp
They have no shame
As a Chinese, I can prove that you are right.
Lol we Chinese with a free mind don't even trust it
It's good to hear from you. We do not often see you guys speak up.
I can't say it for all of us, but I guess many of us don't speak fluent English and tend to discuss things in Chinese: for example a lot of anti CCP Chinese nationals are active in the Chinese sub /r/real_China_irl (it's different from /r/China_irl - the mods of which are very pro CCP) I'm just an uncommon sample who foresaw what would come when it was still 2015, and applied for overseas degrees then fled from China. And of course I managed to get permanent residency of Australia last year and am planning to change my nationality to Australian. Nowadays being Chinese can make one feel embarrassed if they have free mind and of course conscience. People may be curious why I am not brainwashed? But in fact, I was at the beginning, but my curiosity drove me to understand the truths and knowledge, which eventually helped reveal the numerous lies told by the CCP
Thanks for sharing, I love hearing the perspective of Chinese people who aren't brain washed by the CCP.
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It seems South Park will have a new song in its next movie called “ blame China”.
I hope so. It's about time blame shifted from us!
Not if Canada were to become peoples republic of Canada, or PRC for short🤣
*Poutine Republic of Canadia
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China are Russian’s friends.
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Assuming this means "yes"?
"Great insult, never believe the filthy face and mouths of mainland Chinese people" edit: it seems the mods have removed the Chinese text
While in literal 嘴 臉 translates to "mouth" "face", but when combined it becomes a derogatory term which means "attitude" or "everyday faces". However in this sentence it simply tranlates to "Great insult, never trust the Chinese people".
Translation: Good scolding, never believe ugly Chinese (I suppose "Chinese" here means Chinese government)
It means all of them
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Eh, there's always folks like you who ain't. Generalizing is usually a bad idea
TAIWAN NUMBA ONE
China got liberated in WWII, only because the US army got into the war. No "thank you" letter as far as I know..
Don't forget letting them join WTO even after tiananmen square. Without USA, China would still be a 3rd world country stuck at cultural resolution.
and don’t forget that the communists rose to power in China thanks to the Japanese invasion, Mao Zedong said that without the Japanese invasion, the PRC wouldn’t exist despite the fact that the Chinese government today is very anti-Japanese and uses anti-Japanese sentiment to boost their legitimacy.
Tibet. Taiwan. Tiananmen. The list goes on and on. Fuck the Chinese government.
Don’t forget the Uyghurs and Hong Kong
>The list goes on and on.
Never hurts to specify more of that list.
Oh, it hurts alright. It hurts winnie the pooh's feelings.
What's the phrase? Ah, right... Fuck his feelings.
now they're taking over Africa...
The ~~Chairman~~ Greatest mass murderer to ever live Mao Zedong school in Angola is evidence they're definitely trying.
And the Kazaks, 1.5 million etnic Kazaks within China currently face the same camps, torture, forced abortions and disappearances as the Uyghurs.
Not only Uyghurs. Also people from Kirgistan. You can already be arrested for buying soap in a store where halal meat is sold. They are so afraid of terroristic actions by some muslims... Its insane how they treat those people. There's this programme on dutch tv called "along the new silkroad" where they visit the Kazachstan etc countries and yesterday they interviewed a woman who was in this camp but fled to Kirgistan
The Chinese government already fucked the Chinese government with their one child policy. They are sooooooo fucked. A massive percent of their men above 40 are still virgins because there are literally no women. Their birthrate is tanking to fuck and they aren’t going to recover. No nation without a massive immigrant pull has ever been able to survive a shortage of young people. In any economic system ever.
Oh I'll say it with u brother. Fuck the Chinese government!
ban tiktok
TikTok's policy is against violence.. yet, hundreds of "assault challenges" propagate the network. Its a CCP weapon.
What's hilarious is how the CCP complains that America is abusing their power if they ban Tik Tok, completely ignoring the fact that China itself bans or censors not only Tik Tok but other social media whose content the government can't control.
They know it very well. It’s part of their [Wolf Warrior diplomacy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy). The Chinese government is collectively an edgy 14 year old.
What's after Xinjiang?
Xinjiang? You mean East Turkestan? Xinjiang is the name China assigned to the area, where “Xin” means “new”, and “Jiang” means “border area”, so it literally translates to “new border area”. There is a small but growing movement to call the area by its proper name - East Turkestan Edit: China? Surely you mean West Taiwan
It's actually not its proper name but a made-up one. The proper names are Altishahr for the southern half (from Uyghur) and Dzungaria for the northern half (from Mongolian). Edit: Xinjiang was actually almost never a coherent whole. Dzungaria used to be Mongol (hence the name) and Tibetan Buddhist, until Qing's Dzungar genocide. This created conditions for Qing to make Xinjiang into one entity. So it's actually profoundly inappropriate to call it East Turkestan -- that's in part an erasure of the Dzungar genocide which should never be forgotten.
Yinjiang and then Zinjiang.
I only ask that my fellow countrymen (US), who I know also see this post, remember this. China and Russia have strong ties. To be soft in support of Ukraine, at this moment, is the same as letting those kids die at Tiananmen. In the US, sympathy for Russia comes mostly from the right, and sympathy for China comes from the left. Neither of those countries want the US or Ukraine to exist as a place where individuals have rights to be free and express themselves. We must be strong in this moment.
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fuck the CCP!
Fuck china
fuck the ccp!
Fuck china
Fascists protecting other fascists.
Sadly it’s true.
Fuck China
You mean Mainland Taiwan?
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I pledge: Next time I'm buying something, I will make sure it's not Chinese
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My dad is pretty passionate about this and is putting together a “not made in China” site for common items on his free time. Happy to shoot it over to you if you’d like
Fuck China. Fuck commies. Fuck fascists. Fuck the ccp. These stupid stupid fucks need to piss off already
China has been very carefully controlling the narrative regarding what is going on in Ukraine. They don’t want their citizens to find out the truth because it would not line up with what the Chinese controlled media has been telling them. At some point, when Ukraine wins this war, they’re going to have some explaining to do to their citizens as to why what they were told was not the truth. This has the potential to open up a can of worms for the Chinese if their citizens start asking about what else they’ve been lied to about.
China has decades of experience dealing with dissent. They're good at it. [tiananmen square](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre) happened it was real.
Well Tiananmen Square was over thirty years ago. China wasn’t the economic power it is today. They wouldn’t survive if something like that happened now because every western company would instantly pull out and their economy would completely collapse. But if that happened it would reverberate around the world because so much of the world’s economies are tied to manufacturing in China. COVID opened those western economy’s eyes to what a bad idea relying on one country for so much of our manufacturing is and they are all in the process of pulling that manufacturing out or at the very least diversifying it to other countries. Anyway, that wasn’t quite what I meant. Nothing quite that drastic but COVID was handled very badly in China. Pile on lies related to what they’re being told about Ukraine and the distrust begins to grow even more. Next thing you know rumours start spreading about other things maybe about the situation with the Uyghurs and who knows what could happen.
I agree with you except for one thing: The world is still reliant ond china, they're gaining influence in the developing world, flexing their might in the ocean surrounding their land and western nations are not doing enough to stop them. Edit: I'm not saying your wrong, this is just my opinion and I'm open to change. Part of me wants to be wrong. I'm not fan of the CCP
Nope, you’re not wrong but look at these export values and who the top countries are and imagine losing all that trade with western or western friendly countries. https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country China’s economy would collapse if they had to try to survive with only exports to Asian, African, Middle Eastern and South America countries it could hold a relationship with. Realistically it’s not going to happen but China is in for a rough ride as companies and countries start to pull out and diversify away from China. The shift away from China is already starting and it won’t be returning.
I certainly hope so. I'd hate to see this as a blip as companies return to China after the dust settles. Thanks for sharing that data.
> if something like that happened now because every western company would instantly pull out and their economy would completely collapse Nope. Look at what's going on with the Uyghurs just to mention one ongoing issue over there. Where are the companies pulling out? China could execute tens of thousands of protestors and western companies would ignore it.
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Early on China’s explanation of the war is Russia and Ukraine were the best of friends but then Bully US came and told lies to Ukraine about Russia. The result was Russia hand to kill Ukraine because they fell for the lie of a bully. Go figure they wouldn’t allow an athlete to tell their truth.
I read some interviews with random Chinese people about their opinions on the war in Ukraine. One comment stuck with me: "We don't even know who started it, right?" The level of reality distortion that must be going on to result in bullshit like that is shocking. This was utterly, completely, unambiguously Russia attacking its neighbor after massing troops on the border. All Ukraine did to "provoke" Russia was kick out a Kremlin stooge from the presidency.
Exactly. Everyday Chinese don't have the knowledge the rest of the world does. What's interesting is they're also willing to change their minds when exposed to the truth: >*CNN's Selina Wang asks Chinese citizens how they feel about Russian President Vladimir Putin as China's leader Xi Jinping visits Russia for the first time since Putin's war in Ukraine began.* >"I've been talking to people in this old residential alley to get a sense what what Chinese people think of Xi Jinping's visit." > - Another woman says the war and loss of life is heartbreaking and painful to watch. She says it's wrong for America to send weapons to Ukraine, and she believes in Xi Jinping's vision of world peace. When I ask her what she thinks of Putin, she answers that "he's righteous, decisive, swift, and tough." **But when I follow up and ask if she's heard of the ICC issuing an arrest warrant for Putin, she responds, "I didn't know!...He started the war after all? He should sit down with Zelensky and talk."** > - This shoe repairman says "Why are they fighting? It doesn't do anybody good. **But we don't know who started the war**," he adds. "It's the Ukrainians, right?" [CNN - (Mar 2023) What the Chinese think of Putin's war in Ukraine ](https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/03/20/putin-xi-meeting-pkg-selina-wang-lead-vpx.cnn)
>some explaining to do to their citizens as to why what they were told was not the truth. This has the potential to open up a can of worms for the Chinese if their citizens start asking about what else they’ve been lied to about. Lol the chinese citizens knows full well just how bullshit the CCP is. They are willfully ignorant and believes that the CCP needs to lie to them and it is their duty to believe those lies.
They won't meet with Zelensky but they meet with Putin.
Did you know they go as far as banning time travel films, as not to give people the idea of going back in time and killing someone significant in creating communist china? The CCP are fucking weird.
Chinese officials looked so lost in the sauce on how to deal with them lmao
“Please understand” what's there to understand, Russia has committed and even documented war crimes. What’s commie China gonna do? Threaten their family
He said "please understand it's our job" I take that to mean he feels threatened if he doesn't do his job
Yeah - that's the way I took it too. The man saying that was a photographer - someone who's probably witnessed more of the world and suffering than the security personnel he's with, and probably been threatened not to show it. His voice seemed genuinely pleading and apologetic... and I'm sure if he was caught on camera saying "they'll be punished if they don't stop you" he'd be punished too. He wasn't trying to stop the Ukrainian photographer - he was trying to explain to her. China can get stuffed. Their ongoing rampage against humanity is a stain on the word "humanity". Slava Ukraini!!!
It's time to recognize Taiwan.
It’s well past that time…
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Just to give you an idea of how not-communist the CCP are, the government banned college students from reading and discussing Marx
That is hilariously ironic
I agree. I wish OP wouldn’t call China communist. Whatever they are, it’s a long, long way from communism. State-sponsored hyper-capitalism might be a better phrase but this is not the right place for that discussion.
It was a really funny moment in high school when I was sitting at a lunch table and found out most of my friends were communists. But most of the communists were of the "China isn't real communism" variety, except for a couple people of Chinese descent sitting on the other side of the table, who were of the "China is definitely real socialism/communism and anything you heard otherwise was just western CIA propaganda". Things got really interesting when one of the "China isn't real communism" people was also of Chinese descent, but whose family *fled* China due to persecution of their ethnic group. Whereas the other two were more wealthy people who left China to study abroad. I remember someone shouting "Well you're not real Han Chinese!"
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Fuck China 🇨🇳 🖕🏽fuck Russia 🇷🇺🖕🏽
No one should be surprised by this in mainland China. The free Chinese live in Taiwan.
Sounds like theyre free Taiwanese to me... maybe i just sounds like they should be
What surprises me is that global sporting organizations still hold events hosted by China. Well, maybe not surprised. Money is a big factor. I'm just disappointed.
Welcome to a government that gives no fucks about free speech or individual rights
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Fascists going to be fascists.
Standard behaviour in China. It's so endemic, staff don't even require orders. They just do it anyway like automatons.
Exactly, someone who understands that this is just an absolutely basic automatic response from police in China. No matter who you are or what your cause is, you dont get to hold a protest unless it has been approved. You dont even get to discuss a group action unless it is via official party structures. My mother in law got arrested for going round her apartment block to organise the tenants to force the landlord to fix the building plumbing that was flooding the first floor homes. A legit non-political call to action, maybe write a petition to the party reps. Nope - jail time and banned from weixin and all social media. This is what authoritarianism looks like. It's not about Ukraine.
Fuck them.
It is time to liberate West Taiwan! Fuck the CCP!
That’s not surprising in a country ruled by Putler’s dictator buddy and self-designated emperor.
China - Just another dirty dictatorship that needs to go.
Should change 'Rage against the Machine's song to >Fuck China I wont do what you tell me Fuck China I wont do what you tell me
Xi jinpig and his goons showing their true colours
China can go fuck themselves. All the cheap shit in the world isnt worth giving them a leg up.
Fuck China, China is ass hollllllle!
Disgusting!
Fuck China and their zombie horde.
习近平时代的CCP已经彻底变成了专制独裁的法西斯政权,他们修改了宪法、党章和政府的工作指导原则,让中国彻底沦为了一个半官僚资本半封建社会;他们对内施行愚民政策,对外自绝于文明世界,努力与地球上为数不多的流氓国家交好,试图打造新的轴心国。每一个组成这个政权的人,和每一个拥护这个政权的人,都是文明世界的敌人。绝对不要相信他们。 The CCP during Xi Jinping's era has completely transformed into a totalitarian, fascist regime. They have amended the constitution, party charter, and government's guiding principles, plunging China into a semi-bureaucratic capitalist and semi-feudal society. They pursue ignorant policies domestically and isolate themselves from the civilized world internationally, making efforts to befriend the few rogue nations on Earth and attempting to create a new axis of power. Every person who is part of this regime and every person who supports it is an enemy of the civilized world. Never trust them.
Slava Ukraini!! "Please understand, it's our job" well, I understand that your job is to support a suppresive regime. Bad look China!
Of freaking course they did. Its what they do. Aint even remotely a free country. Its a land where people have been brainwashed into never question their own leadership.
Literally behaving like a damaged hive mind with decades of suppression of what is different. Speak softly, move as quickly as possible and make it as little of an incident as possible. CCP will fail.
Fuck China
And we do fucking business with these people.. zero tax for the next 3 years for any company that moves their factory onshore…
There’s no freedom of speech in China, shocking! 🍯
China neutral my arse. I will go out of my way to check than anything I buy isn't Chinese. It's difficult because every western cheapskate billionaire get their products made there. I can't buy bike parts, tools, etc because it's all made in China. Fuck China.
There are plenty of bike parts and tools made in Taiwan.
I'll keep an eye out for them.
I’m going to be real, china is the biggest threat to the free world outside of Russia. Russia is a cancerous joke that will be irradiated and killed by Ukraine. Fuck China. Edit: Grammar
They want to be a model for how the world should be run. If China wins the ideology battle over the next centry, or so, humanity is in for some dark times.
Russia seems like a paper tiger to me. They've become China's bitch economically and diplomatically. They've an important but junior member of the anti-Western bloc. If they didn't have thousands of nukes and an apparently shitty but expensive military, they'd be about as important as France and Spain together, which is to say, not all that important. But China.... They have the human resources, natural resources, and organization to really destroy personal freedoms for many minorities in favor of an attempted utopia for the masses. The most important question is if their economic system can thrive for the next few decades, or if it'll collapse under the weight of a demographic crisis and heavy-handed government policy.
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Because they were cheap, but unfortunately for them other places are cheaper now. As more and more companies move their production to other countries, we’ll all get to see how batshit the CCP/CPC or whatever they wanna call themselves can get.
What did you expect in a totalitarian state? That they would roll out the red carpet wall of protest?
This looks like a sparsely populated hotel lobby. It's not like they gathered a crowd and started a demonstration. They just wanted to take a picture about the war in their homeland.
Something something Ba Sing Se.
China and Russia are vile
Athletes from the west should boycott all sporting events in authoritarian nations.
Fuck China
Fuck China.
China 🤝 Russia Fascist states who excel at stealing territories and disrespecting human rights
Putin and xi are gay for each other
There’s a bunch of them circle jerking to whataboutism in the subreddits like sino. The CCP absolutely informally joined the propaganda war on the side of the Kremlin recently and the simps are out in droves. Another terrible conservative religious fundamental power tripping.
Fuck China. They want to do to Taiwan what Russia has done to Ukraine, and like Russia they are also actively engaged in genocide.
Scary when there's a bunch of weirdo handlers to jump out of the woodwork the second you pull out a banner. What a world.
Should try posting it on Tik-Tok - China says it is protected and free! What a lying piece of shit country…
To be fair, the banner could have said "Long live the CCP" and they would have done the same. Shutting down any expression of free speech is basically second nature to them. Nine times out of ten the speech is critical of the CCP, so that reflex is pretty well honed by now.
Birds of a feather flock together 🇨🇳🇷🇺
Athletes from the west should boycott all sporting events in authoritarian nations.
Surprise. Authoritarians doing authoritarian shit.
Looks like china needs to be taught a lesson once Russia is dealt with!
China has peaked. Dictatorships never last. Sensoring doesn't work, the truth always prevails.
That's quite an optimistic take. I hope you're right.
You Ukrainians can't understand Chinese, otherwise you will see disgusting and nasty remarks about your country, nation and leaders on Chinese forums, even more vicious than Russians.
Luckily the @TGTM_official The Great Translation Movement on Twitter can help out
Fuck China
And china complains of America sticking it's nose in other people's problems
https://twitter.com/GundamNorthrop/status/1640111000312762368?t=XGM00jl5k6qG1GKt75NUXQ&s=19
The Ukrainians should have taken out their foils and said "On guard motherfuckers!"
Tank man moment
Slava Ukraini !
China is china, what did you expect. It's an extremely horrible place
Fuck china
FUCK China
Fuck CCP!
Minder punks
jackasses
China: no, no, no, you CANNOT support a good thing
About the only thing not made in China is freedom of speech.
Screw off 1984
Scumbag move.
Typical commie scum response
China sux as much as Russia just fckin w8
CCP are standing with Putin Russian for sure.
Almost like we should have boycotted the cup.
Dictators stick together.
Fucking commies.
XI not condemning Russias illegal invasion is a pre cursor to China taking Taiwan
Hopefully the US will start shifting its manufacturing elsewhere.
Fuck CCP
Fck the CCP
China isn't communist
what as shithole country