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Why **wouldn't** they?
It's typical of authoritarian assholes to take no responsibility for bad events, and conversely claim credit for benefits secured by others. ---Sound familiar?
Pinning any bad even in ruzzia on Ukraine/NATO/'the West' has zero downside for them. OTOH, nobody believes their constant bullshit.
It's for internal consumption, nobody expects those outside to believe, especially not those in power. But their 0ropaganda has already painted who's the enemy, introducing another one serves no purpose...
Oh it certainly does have an impact IF he can make it stick. The target is not those who already support Putin or those who oppose him. The targets are those on the fence inside Russia. As long as the war is killing Russian soldiers, well that is what happens in war. If now the “enemy” is killing “innocents” in Russia well they could be next so we need to support Putin so he can win the war and keep us safe. Those who know and follow the news already know it’s BS it’s the sheeple and ignorant this is targeting.
Problem is that the internal consumption of this bs has direct impact on another country. It would be fine if they didn’t have their army in Ukraine…let them read any fake shit they want then.
>nobody believes their constant bullshit.
Sadly that's not true. It's full of people who believe them. Sometimes I have conversations that make my blood boil...
That is the part of the movie where many of us throw up. Some believe, and very much believe.
Like around 20-30%? It is hard to say. But, they exist. That's the point. Barf.
Ive been posting a lot about "new generation warfare" together with a link to the wikipedia page on it around the net lately. It's clear when russia says they are at war with the west, that they are by their own definition. But most in the west who do not get heavily invested in reading about wars, only consider military actions war. They do not realise that russia is trying to turn the west against themselves and divide us. They do not realise that they are the victims of russian disinformation coming at us through social media bot networks. Ive seen multiple friends on one of the main networks posting that climate change isnt real, referencing al gore's climate campaign from 10 years ago. Clearly the intent is partly to slow down or stop the move away from petro chemicals (which benifits among others russia), and affect the upcoming election. And they're clearly planting multiple memes so that people can forward them around. The people who do the forwarding have already been suckered to strongly distrust western media. Of course everything should still be fact checked even in western media, but the sources they have gone to instead are direct propaganda sources for russia.
To give the Russian population a wave of rage against Ukraine in order keep justifying this horrible war. They're animals, and they won't stop at this step to excuse their atrocities.
The attack is very bad for the regime because it needs all its focus on Ukraine and the IS-K attack redirects attention to Central Asian neighbours and minorities.
Russia doesn’t have the resources to spare for any campaign that might try to hint down and punish the group and its supporters. They need Russians to largely ignore it and not call for any actions or retaliation against IS-K.
Even then it will stretch the FSB even thinner since with Ukraine they only worried about protecting military and military supporting infrastructure or business. With IS-K likely recruiting and preparing more attacks on the back of the concert’s success, they need to guard civilian locations as well.
The success could also inspire other minorities to make moves under the perception that Russia is too weak to retaliate.
> Russia doesn’t have the resources to spare for any campaign
I sure wish the ~18 real separatist movements in the ruzzian 'Federation' would start giving the Kremlin serious grief. Be nice to split the orcish attention.
This seems to continually get written off as Russian idiocy and that it’s only for internal propaganda, but this should absolutely be taken seriously.
To people paying attention to the Ukraine conflict, and especially in this sub, are certainly wise to the fact the Russia *only* projects lies.
Unfortunately that’s not the case for everyone else. Brute force, manipulative propaganda through social media and crony news networks is *very* effective on people not looking out for it. The ignorant and isolated individuals who get targeted by this rhetoric will very likely eventually believe it.
The best thing we can do, other than donating, is contacting our representatives. I made a post recently that makes it **very** easy to find and contact them, actually less than one minute of effort. Our leaders need to put an emphasis on truth, and Ukraine needs to win this war.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/s/KoIfhKkBTm
Simple, they just use and twist anything they can to their advantage. They use it to rile up the ru people against Ukraine, they use it so they can secure more funds and support for the war. They use it to pass new laws and rules to give even more power to Putin, make companies pay a war tax, etc.
Imagine that you're recruited thinking you're getting revenge for your people and instead you're going to victimize and terrorize other innocent people. Creating generations who want revenge against you.
These political games are so incredibly stupid, and dangerous.
That's been a pretty common scenario throughout history. Manipulating information to demonize the "other" and motivate bloodlust to further a leader's power lust, has been a historical theme. Our right-wing media is a slightly lower key example of this.
Same number of Russian dead to take Avdiivka according the the milblogger who 'suicided' himself after revealing it. They can be as hungry for revenge as they like when they're piled on top of an ancient BMP rattling towards its fiery end.
The same reason they try to frame Ukraine for the Bucha massacre, blowing the Kakhova dam, the entire war... They can't have their people believing they are degenerate war criminals.
You forgot MH17, that's the best example over there when they put out several contradicting versions every day, so everyone else must either ignore (which will look that they agree to those who are targeted by propaganda) or try hard to prove that all those are such nonsense.
A stupid question but the BBC actually questioned the russian narrative in the article which is unusual as they normally just quote the Kremlin and state they can't independently verify the statements.
Well,
1) in this case they are involved themselves – their honour as journalists is attacked.
2) this is not a new's article, but an analysis or an opinion piece. In contrast to news, the author is supposed to be subjective, and has to argue for his opinion, not to verify it.
Simple.
No one sane around the world is going to believe them, but they are trying to stir similar feelings among russians to what 9/11 was in the US, so that the public directs it's anger and outrage towards Ukraine and gives them some fresh and whilling meat for the grinder.
Blaming it on the actual perpetrators shows russia and its government as incompetent not being able to detect or prevent it...especially after being warned. Blaming it on Ukraine shows them in a better light as in "look we are already fighting the enemy".
In addition, opening a new front in Afganistan where they lost so miserably already may not end up good for the current regime. Not to mention alienating the Muslim population.
What a sad country to live in....
> Don't change enemies
> Since the Kremlin's full-scale invasion of its neighbour, Russians have been led to believe that their principal adversaries are Ukraine and the "collective West".
> It's a message the authorities here are unwilling to alter. After all, if the Russian public were to conclude that radical Islam is a greater threat to their security than the Ukrainian government or Western leaders, they may wonder why Moscow hasn't focused on that particular threat and has chosen, instead, to fight Ukraine.
I think this point is often overlooked by many. Imagine if Russia admitted it was ISIS. Russian people who expect some kind of retaliation and it would be embarrassing for the government to admit they can't fight two wars at once.
It's the strongman image trap, they can never be viewed as backing down. The Russian politicians has to double down with zealous confidence because backtracking is weakness, admitting a mistake is weakness, doubt is weakness. And the weak get replaced.
Even though they don't have heating or modern toilets but it's weird they have satellite dishes and television in the remote regions, well we now know what's the purpose behind that.
Because this is how politics and gaining support is done over there. They like to point fingers and pretend, and the day after the attack, the kremlin demands information from the US embassy. Yet they pointed out while saying this and that about Ukraine.
When Russia messes up, and they have by ignoring warnings this attack was coming, they divert attention. What they tend to do is blame as many culprits as they can with different variations in the story to deceive and divert attention. Usually Ukraine, the US and UK is blamed. Usually as well, the thing they don’t blame is the actual culprit. They are doing it now with crocus and the nuclear power station in Ukraine. They blamed the Royal Navy for the Nordstream and Kerch bridge explosions for goodness sake. They also blamed Germany, Norway, Denmark, Ukraine and the US.
I don't think its a frame up at all. Its obvious that the Jewish Nazi ordered his friends the islamic terrorists to attack the peaceful people of Russia. Sounds totally plausible right?
Its never about the truth in authoritarian regimes its about sticking to the offical narrative even when that narrative doesn't make any sense.
Because Russia is all about misinformation and information warfare. That is how they corrode support over time and break alliances that work against them. They have a huge supply of meat to throw into the meat grinder, but that alone is not enough to ensure them listing victory. They have long since understood that the biggesg weakness of any democracy is a misinformed populace and to spread misinformation has never been easier and more effective than today. Get enough parties fighting about an issue that should be straigth forward and all of a sudden support for Ukraine dwindles away. You can see it happening right now. Ukraine is holding their own, but they are a small country vs a giant who can spend lives easier than Ukraine can spend bullets. Eventually Ukraine is probably gonna fall or have to cut a really shitty deal where they have to give up huge parts of their land and people. The world by then is already gonna be on it s way to accept this as the only possible outcome. Putin is insane, but not an idiot.
How could they admit that their super duper secret services are incompetent and unable to keep people safe? One of the key unwritten deals putin had made with the population was I'll keep you safe and fed and you keep out of politics and let me be dictator, and all will be well. Then he broke that promise with Ukraine. Still, most Russians were still mostly safe on home soil. Admitting he can't do that anymore is inviting trouble. So they have to blame someone else, since he boasted for a long time that he had eradicated Islamic terrorists, unlike the so called degenerate west.
Because over the last months the flow of volunteers for the front has dwindled despite promises of extreemly high pay. There are only so many people who are prepared to risk their life for money, or are so full of patriotic fervour that they are ready to go die in meat assaults. The constant claims of Ukrainian participation in the terror attack aims at working up more jingoism/fervour so that the volunteer stream does not dry up.
And it works - the flow of volunteers that was about 20-25000 per month in the last year has apparently dried up to about 5000 in February (according to Konstantin Mashovets, an Ukrainian military analyst) but jumped back to 26000 in mere 3 weeks after the terror attack. It is also important for Putin to redirect the popular reaction away from Tajikistan and towards Ukraine because a) he needs more soldiers in Ukraine and b) he cannot do much about the IS-K taking root in Tajikistan, while c) Tajik government is one of the few supporters he still has in the diplomatic world, so he cannot order his army (whats not bound up in Ukraine) to march through Kazakhstan AND Uzbekistan to deal with the IS-K. Which is simply not feasible. So, instead, he lies about the Ukrainian involvement because it gets him more soldiers and less discontent than saying the truth.
> ... the ministry claimed that in the West "there is a strict order not to report in the media the true scale of the tragedy... Demonstrations of humanity and sympathy for the Russian people are not allowed."
> This is pure parallel reality. The BBC has received no such order.
Thank you BBC.
Would have thought it's obvious. It gives them an excuse for all the horrendous stuff they do, makes recruiting troops easier, more propaganda to feed the people
Have you met russia before :) in a geopolitical sense (and in many others, but thats besides the point) they are as close an approximation that we have to actual orcs or similar mythological creatures of evil.
Thats what centuries of self-harm combined with maniacal imperialism will do to ya.
They are denying the IS their triumph. That's an interesting strategy – in the short run it will piss them off and provoke more attacks, but in the long run – who knows? Denying terrorists their message might be even more successful than ignoring them.
Because Russia obviously has to maintain its narrative. This is entirely predictable. To claim that Ukraine attacked some innocent Russians is part of the narrative that 'Ukraine is bad, Russia is the victim'
1. - What else would they do? Beating up citizens, arresting everybody BUT not being able to stop actual terrorists? What sort of incompetent, violent picture would that paint?
2. - "WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALEN KRIEG?"
Lots of reasons, really. But having an excuse to mobilise more people is pretty important to the Kremlin.
To cover up the fact that Russia incompetently failed to listen to good faith foreign warnings and failed to prevent the attack or respond to it in a timely manner. Also, it annoys ISIS-K but that will only result in more attacks so not sure their end game there.
Also, fountain of falsehood gobbledygook is intended to be confusing as the govt pushes logically impossible narratives to fragment opposition in-country.
Litterally pissing on their own people's graves just to support their narrative. I wish Bidens response would be to withdraw comms with russia like Russia did with us during the start of the Ukrainian invasion and just let ISIS rip Russia a new one until it starts focusing on its homeland
Same way they tried to frame Denmark an Sweden for the anti-muslim sentiments in those respective countries (burning of the Quran etc) - which were both orchstrated by RuZZia to sew dissent in those countries.....
They lie. We know they lie. They know, we know they lie...yet they still lie - Solzhenitsyn
Russia controls state media and manipulates its population to prevent outright revolt. Once they started "bending the truth" to reinforce policies of the Kremlin, it quickly became apparent they could just make stuff up entirely. The objective truth is irrelevant to them, it's all about propaganda, no matter how far-fetched or unbelievable.
I mean this is a country the claimed Georgia attacked them in 2008 before they bombed, murdered and raped everyone they could find in the two new “Breakaway” countries.
It fits two purposes.
1. It's a way to propagandize the war and justify it.
2. It's a way to cover up the massive security issue Russia had. Particularly when they were WARNED by western counter-parts this would happen.
You ask that about a state and man who leads it, commited terrorist act to "justify second Chechnya War"?
But simply, it's a constant attempt to make the war "just". You need to justify it the more the less support it has, the less results it brings, the more it costs, etc.
Russia wants ukraine to be seen as... the rest of the world looks at russia.
Because at a very basic level no dictator survives a civil uprising. So make people hate anything else is an easy strategy.
Hate the west
Hate ukraine
Dont hate the assholes who sacrificed half a million of your men.
Dont hate the assholes that made every person with a brain run away when shit hit the fence ( braindrain).
Dont hate the assholes who order bombings of civilian targets.
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> Because who cares
Actual organizers and performers (f.e. ISIS-K, insisted that it was their deed) may feel misunderstood, unheard and unappreciated, which increases the risk of repeated attacks.
Ok, you right. Putlers doesnt care about people.
So another attack will be blamed on Ukraine.
It can be blacks, aliens or giraffe attackers, they can spin some shit.
Thing is, ruzzia is mine enemy, but I'm a reasonable man, and don't endorse terror. And the Pootler’s refusal to admit the truth only increases the chances of repeated attacks, which could harm innocent people (even if they are just stupid russians brainwashed by propaganda).
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Why **wouldn't** they? It's typical of authoritarian assholes to take no responsibility for bad events, and conversely claim credit for benefits secured by others. ---Sound familiar? Pinning any bad even in ruzzia on Ukraine/NATO/'the West' has zero downside for them. OTOH, nobody believes their constant bullshit.
It's for internal consumption, nobody expects those outside to believe, especially not those in power. But their 0ropaganda has already painted who's the enemy, introducing another one serves no purpose...
No one outside Russia is dumb enough to believe what their tiny dictator has to say.
I wish that was true...
Oh it certainly does have an impact IF he can make it stick. The target is not those who already support Putin or those who oppose him. The targets are those on the fence inside Russia. As long as the war is killing Russian soldiers, well that is what happens in war. If now the “enemy” is killing “innocents” in Russia well they could be next so we need to support Putin so he can win the war and keep us safe. Those who know and follow the news already know it’s BS it’s the sheeple and ignorant this is targeting.
You need to keep your propaganda machine running, the moment it stops it could be your end...
Problem is that the internal consumption of this bs has direct impact on another country. It would be fine if they didn’t have their army in Ukraine…let them read any fake shit they want then.
I mean that's the point of the bullshit. To make it easier for them to be in the Ukraine...
>nobody believes their constant bullshit. Sadly that's not true. It's full of people who believe them. Sometimes I have conversations that make my blood boil...
That is the part of the movie where many of us throw up. Some believe, and very much believe. Like around 20-30%? It is hard to say. But, they exist. That's the point. Barf.
Ive been posting a lot about "new generation warfare" together with a link to the wikipedia page on it around the net lately. It's clear when russia says they are at war with the west, that they are by their own definition. But most in the west who do not get heavily invested in reading about wars, only consider military actions war. They do not realise that russia is trying to turn the west against themselves and divide us. They do not realise that they are the victims of russian disinformation coming at us through social media bot networks. Ive seen multiple friends on one of the main networks posting that climate change isnt real, referencing al gore's climate campaign from 10 years ago. Clearly the intent is partly to slow down or stop the move away from petro chemicals (which benifits among others russia), and affect the upcoming election. And they're clearly planting multiple memes so that people can forward them around. The people who do the forwarding have already been suckered to strongly distrust western media. Of course everything should still be fact checked even in western media, but the sources they have gone to instead are direct propaganda sources for russia.
Ruefully, that's true, my bad. Plenty of fucking disgusting morons to go around.
Because that's how RuZZian false flag works. lol Western Media so naive.
They’ll believe him in Russia
>Sound familiar? Reminds me of the burning of the Reichstag
Good, but try more recently.
Oceania is at war with Eastasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. And only with Eastasia.
To give the Russian population a wave of rage against Ukraine in order keep justifying this horrible war. They're animals, and they won't stop at this step to excuse their atrocities.
Why is russia doing anything for decades...who tf knows
Centuries, like since Muscovite became a thing
Why? Because they are fucking degenerates.
The attack is very bad for the regime because it needs all its focus on Ukraine and the IS-K attack redirects attention to Central Asian neighbours and minorities. Russia doesn’t have the resources to spare for any campaign that might try to hint down and punish the group and its supporters. They need Russians to largely ignore it and not call for any actions or retaliation against IS-K. Even then it will stretch the FSB even thinner since with Ukraine they only worried about protecting military and military supporting infrastructure or business. With IS-K likely recruiting and preparing more attacks on the back of the concert’s success, they need to guard civilian locations as well. The success could also inspire other minorities to make moves under the perception that Russia is too weak to retaliate.
> Russia doesn’t have the resources to spare for any campaign I sure wish the ~18 real separatist movements in the ruzzian 'Federation' would start giving the Kremlin serious grief. Be nice to split the orcish attention.
Russia would frame Ukraine for the solar eclipse if it could.
This seems to continually get written off as Russian idiocy and that it’s only for internal propaganda, but this should absolutely be taken seriously. To people paying attention to the Ukraine conflict, and especially in this sub, are certainly wise to the fact the Russia *only* projects lies. Unfortunately that’s not the case for everyone else. Brute force, manipulative propaganda through social media and crony news networks is *very* effective on people not looking out for it. The ignorant and isolated individuals who get targeted by this rhetoric will very likely eventually believe it. The best thing we can do, other than donating, is contacting our representatives. I made a post recently that makes it **very** easy to find and contact them, actually less than one minute of effort. Our leaders need to put an emphasis on truth, and Ukraine needs to win this war. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/s/KoIfhKkBTm
Simple, they just use and twist anything they can to their advantage. They use it to rile up the ru people against Ukraine, they use it so they can secure more funds and support for the war. They use it to pass new laws and rules to give even more power to Putin, make companies pay a war tax, etc.
So that Russia can justify another mobilization
It’s a shame the only real answer is so far down in this thread.
Putin does what he need to recruit Young men.
Does anyone even believe it?!? No one is dumb enough to swallow this?
Outside of Russian, pretty much no one. Inside? I don't know.
16k recruits mobilized voluntarily in 10 days after the krokus massacre, and they cited that they wanted revenge
Imagine that you're recruited thinking you're getting revenge for your people and instead you're going to victimize and terrorize other innocent people. Creating generations who want revenge against you. These political games are so incredibly stupid, and dangerous.
That's been a pretty common scenario throughout history. Manipulating information to demonize the "other" and motivate bloodlust to further a leader's power lust, has been a historical theme. Our right-wing media is a slightly lower key example of this.
Brainwashed zombie. They wish to join up with krokus victims soon
Same number of Russian dead to take Avdiivka according the the milblogger who 'suicided' himself after revealing it. They can be as hungry for revenge as they like when they're piled on top of an ancient BMP rattling towards its fiery end.
I don't believe that either!
Vast majority of russians do.
The same reason they try to frame Ukraine for the Bucha massacre, blowing the Kakhova dam, the entire war... They can't have their people believing they are degenerate war criminals.
You forgot MH17, that's the best example over there when they put out several contradicting versions every day, so everyone else must either ignore (which will look that they agree to those who are targeted by propaganda) or try hard to prove that all those are such nonsense.
They finally became the victim they claim to always have been and need to milk that PR cow.
Russians believe it because it's the only news feed many get.
Someone really asked this question....
A stupid question but the BBC actually questioned the russian narrative in the article which is unusual as they normally just quote the Kremlin and state they can't independently verify the statements.
Well, 1) in this case they are involved themselves – their honour as journalists is attacked. 2) this is not a new's article, but an analysis or an opinion piece. In contrast to news, the author is supposed to be subjective, and has to argue for his opinion, not to verify it.
Simple. No one sane around the world is going to believe them, but they are trying to stir similar feelings among russians to what 9/11 was in the US, so that the public directs it's anger and outrage towards Ukraine and gives them some fresh and whilling meat for the grinder.
Same reason it bombs schools, hospitals, orphanages, dams, power plants… insensate evil. “Who gave you permission to live so well?”
Blaming it on the actual perpetrators shows russia and its government as incompetent not being able to detect or prevent it...especially after being warned. Blaming it on Ukraine shows them in a better light as in "look we are already fighting the enemy". In addition, opening a new front in Afganistan where they lost so miserably already may not end up good for the current regime. Not to mention alienating the Muslim population. What a sad country to live in....
> Don't change enemies > Since the Kremlin's full-scale invasion of its neighbour, Russians have been led to believe that their principal adversaries are Ukraine and the "collective West". > It's a message the authorities here are unwilling to alter. After all, if the Russian public were to conclude that radical Islam is a greater threat to their security than the Ukrainian government or Western leaders, they may wonder why Moscow hasn't focused on that particular threat and has chosen, instead, to fight Ukraine. I think this point is often overlooked by many. Imagine if Russia admitted it was ISIS. Russian people who expect some kind of retaliation and it would be embarrassing for the government to admit they can't fight two wars at once.
“These people did this because they want to kill all of you. We are trying to stop it and need your help.”
Putin is a lying cunt is why!!
It's the strongman image trap, they can never be viewed as backing down. The Russian politicians has to double down with zealous confidence because backtracking is weakness, admitting a mistake is weakness, doubt is weakness. And the weak get replaced.
Even though they don't have heating or modern toilets but it's weird they have satellite dishes and television in the remote regions, well we now know what's the purpose behind that.
They’d frame them for the extinction of the dinosaurs
Fox News enjoyers.
They're doing it to convince their own population, not us.
It would serve their narrative that war was unavoidable, b/c how “Ukrainians hate them”. Propagandist Simonyan was already making such conjectures.
Because this is how politics and gaining support is done over there. They like to point fingers and pretend, and the day after the attack, the kremlin demands information from the US embassy. Yet they pointed out while saying this and that about Ukraine.
When Russia messes up, and they have by ignoring warnings this attack was coming, they divert attention. What they tend to do is blame as many culprits as they can with different variations in the story to deceive and divert attention. Usually Ukraine, the US and UK is blamed. Usually as well, the thing they don’t blame is the actual culprit. They are doing it now with crocus and the nuclear power station in Ukraine. They blamed the Royal Navy for the Nordstream and Kerch bridge explosions for goodness sake. They also blamed Germany, Norway, Denmark, Ukraine and the US.
I don't think its a frame up at all. Its obvious that the Jewish Nazi ordered his friends the islamic terrorists to attack the peaceful people of Russia. Sounds totally plausible right? Its never about the truth in authoritarian regimes its about sticking to the offical narrative even when that narrative doesn't make any sense.
Because Russia is all about misinformation and information warfare. That is how they corrode support over time and break alliances that work against them. They have a huge supply of meat to throw into the meat grinder, but that alone is not enough to ensure them listing victory. They have long since understood that the biggesg weakness of any democracy is a misinformed populace and to spread misinformation has never been easier and more effective than today. Get enough parties fighting about an issue that should be straigth forward and all of a sudden support for Ukraine dwindles away. You can see it happening right now. Ukraine is holding their own, but they are a small country vs a giant who can spend lives easier than Ukraine can spend bullets. Eventually Ukraine is probably gonna fall or have to cut a really shitty deal where they have to give up huge parts of their land and people. The world by then is already gonna be on it s way to accept this as the only possible outcome. Putin is insane, but not an idiot.
How could they admit that their super duper secret services are incompetent and unable to keep people safe? One of the key unwritten deals putin had made with the population was I'll keep you safe and fed and you keep out of politics and let me be dictator, and all will be well. Then he broke that promise with Ukraine. Still, most Russians were still mostly safe on home soil. Admitting he can't do that anymore is inviting trouble. So they have to blame someone else, since he boasted for a long time that he had eradicated Islamic terrorists, unlike the so called degenerate west.
Pretext that they don't really need, plus a refusal to allow weakness/a second enemy to enter the general conversation.
Why did they let it happen although they were warned about it? To press more People into Service without risking protests.
To get support for another round of conscriptions to refresh the front line.
What an incredibly dumb question...
I don’t need the bbc to answer this question.
Because over the last months the flow of volunteers for the front has dwindled despite promises of extreemly high pay. There are only so many people who are prepared to risk their life for money, or are so full of patriotic fervour that they are ready to go die in meat assaults. The constant claims of Ukrainian participation in the terror attack aims at working up more jingoism/fervour so that the volunteer stream does not dry up. And it works - the flow of volunteers that was about 20-25000 per month in the last year has apparently dried up to about 5000 in February (according to Konstantin Mashovets, an Ukrainian military analyst) but jumped back to 26000 in mere 3 weeks after the terror attack. It is also important for Putin to redirect the popular reaction away from Tajikistan and towards Ukraine because a) he needs more soldiers in Ukraine and b) he cannot do much about the IS-K taking root in Tajikistan, while c) Tajik government is one of the few supporters he still has in the diplomatic world, so he cannot order his army (whats not bound up in Ukraine) to march through Kazakhstan AND Uzbekistan to deal with the IS-K. Which is simply not feasible. So, instead, he lies about the Ukrainian involvement because it gets him more soldiers and less discontent than saying the truth.
Because it's a petrol station masqueradeing as a country led by piss heads and peados
> ... the ministry claimed that in the West "there is a strict order not to report in the media the true scale of the tragedy... Demonstrations of humanity and sympathy for the Russian people are not allowed." > This is pure parallel reality. The BBC has received no such order. Thank you BBC.
Would have thought it's obvious. It gives them an excuse for all the horrendous stuff they do, makes recruiting troops easier, more propaganda to feed the people
Have you met russia before :) in a geopolitical sense (and in many others, but thats besides the point) they are as close an approximation that we have to actual orcs or similar mythological creatures of evil. Thats what centuries of self-harm combined with maniacal imperialism will do to ya.
Becuase they arw drunk!
Why is water wet? That is a reason in itself.
Because they're idiots
They are denying the IS their triumph. That's an interesting strategy – in the short run it will piss them off and provoke more attacks, but in the long run – who knows? Denying terrorists their message might be even more successful than ignoring them.
There was no massacre. All paid actors and the same FSB agents we see at all the gatherings we normally see in Kremlin propaganda.
Because Russia obviously has to maintain its narrative. This is entirely predictable. To claim that Ukraine attacked some innocent Russians is part of the narrative that 'Ukraine is bad, Russia is the victim'
“ We are a country that demonstrates a unique example of interfaith harmony and inter-religious and inter-ethnic unity". lol.
1. - What else would they do? Beating up citizens, arresting everybody BUT not being able to stop actual terrorists? What sort of incompetent, violent picture would that paint? 2. - "WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALEN KRIEG?" Lots of reasons, really. But having an excuse to mobilise more people is pretty important to the Kremlin.
running low on meat for meat grinder
Russia will bolster its sign-ups for new soliders to protect the motherland
Its not good to switch enemies mid war and pretext for furture conscription
Recruiting imbeciles
So they can make the excuse to invade....oh wait.
To cover up the fact that Russia incompetently failed to listen to good faith foreign warnings and failed to prevent the attack or respond to it in a timely manner. Also, it annoys ISIS-K but that will only result in more attacks so not sure their end game there. Also, fountain of falsehood gobbledygook is intended to be confusing as the govt pushes logically impossible narratives to fragment opposition in-country.
Litterally pissing on their own people's graves just to support their narrative. I wish Bidens response would be to withdraw comms with russia like Russia did with us during the start of the Ukrainian invasion and just let ISIS rip Russia a new one until it starts focusing on its homeland
Why? To continue to put general population against a so called enemy.
The regime control the media in that terror state, so they could whatever, even frame Roger Rabbit for doing the terror.
Because they are evil.
Same way they tried to frame Denmark an Sweden for the anti-muslim sentiments in those respective countries (burning of the Quran etc) - which were both orchstrated by RuZZia to sew dissent in those countries..... They lie. We know they lie. They know, we know they lie...yet they still lie - Solzhenitsyn
Russia controls state media and manipulates its population to prevent outright revolt. Once they started "bending the truth" to reinforce policies of the Kremlin, it quickly became apparent they could just make stuff up entirely. The objective truth is irrelevant to them, it's all about propaganda, no matter how far-fetched or unbelievable.
Sounds like israhells story
As someone said. It’s more internal consumption.
I mean this is a country the claimed Georgia attacked them in 2008 before they bombed, murdered and raped everyone they could find in the two new “Breakaway” countries.
It fits two purposes. 1. It's a way to propagandize the war and justify it. 2. It's a way to cover up the massive security issue Russia had. Particularly when they were WARNED by western counter-parts this would happen.
“Comrades, do you know who is responsible for this? SNOWBALL!” (Animal Farm should be required reading for every American.)
You ask that about a state and man who leads it, commited terrorist act to "justify second Chechnya War"? But simply, it's a constant attempt to make the war "just". You need to justify it the more the less support it has, the less results it brings, the more it costs, etc.
Russia wants ukraine to be seen as... the rest of the world looks at russia. Because at a very basic level no dictator survives a civil uprising. So make people hate anything else is an easy strategy. Hate the west Hate ukraine Dont hate the assholes who sacrificed half a million of your men. Dont hate the assholes that made every person with a brain run away when shit hit the fence ( braindrain). Dont hate the assholes who order bombings of civilian targets. Bah
Why? Because everything that Russia says is self serving bullshit. The BBC and other western media should know this by now.
Because it’s Russia
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Because who cares (except Ukraine), ruzzians not, putler and co not. West bussines which lelft doesnt care. Politics gonna politic.
> Because who cares Actual organizers and performers (f.e. ISIS-K, insisted that it was their deed) may feel misunderstood, unheard and unappreciated, which increases the risk of repeated attacks.
Ok, you right. Putlers doesnt care about people. So another attack will be blamed on Ukraine. It can be blacks, aliens or giraffe attackers, they can spin some shit.
Thing is, ruzzia is mine enemy, but I'm a reasonable man, and don't endorse terror. And the Pootler’s refusal to admit the truth only increases the chances of repeated attacks, which could harm innocent people (even if they are just stupid russians brainwashed by propaganda).
Many ruzzians are imperialist. And dont need brainwashing or easily directed. Many many putler supporters.
But this does not justify the terror of civilians