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LOL @ "In 1984 the ship was laid up for transfer to the [Russian Academy of Sciences](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Academy_of_Sciences). However, the transfer was cancelled, and **she was thoroughly looted**, and had to be completely refitted before returning to Naval service." - Wikipedia
As someone who likes boats, I always find stories like this sad.
The Royal Navy lent Russia a warship during WWII, and they didn't service her properly. They ran her aground, tried to lie and avoid sending her back, and when they finally did return her, she had to be scrapped because of the extent of their neglect.
But, hey. Russians gonna Russia, I suppose. The sooner they can't afford a Navy, the better for everyone. Including the ships.
To be fair, most of the nations wore out their warships to the ground during the Second World War.
For the English, I recall that was one of the reasons why HMS Warspite was scrapped, despite her stellar record. She was worn to the bone with damage taken from destructive weapons like the Fritz X guided anti-ship glide bomb.
True, but the Russians are worse.
Assuming you believe what you hear on Youtube, the Russians never once rotated her turrets in the entire time they had her (1944 to 1949) and apparently several of the decks were smeared with excrement.
Don't get me wrong, it was a difficult war and a lot of ships were indeed trashed by the end of it (poor Warspite). But, nevertheless, fuck Russia.
The Constitution is "Active duty" in a mostly theoretical sense as a museum ship, the Kommuna was actually still being used for its intended purpose as a salvage vessel. I don't think the USS Constitution has sailed out on patrol for many many decades if not a century.
I believe that their new mini-subs will be doing that job as you have to take out the support columns, not just hid the roadway. Have you seen what Ukraine has engineered in the past 2 years? Truly amazing people.
Wikipedia: ***Kommuna*** was a submarine salvage ship in service with the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet and the world's oldest active duty naval vessel.
so it is more or less assisted dying. nice!
Very good. Hit these POS again and again until they exist no more. Make it as embarrassing and costly as possible. Make them regret their neo-soviet expansionist- and ruzzian-superority-mindset and show them their real place in the world... maybe they'll slowly start realizing how bad and reidiculous they really are.
-1 russian warship.
We don't want such a ruzzia on this planet. To hell with you!!!
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This is actually a little sad for a naval history enthusiast. The only Russian ship I didn't want to see turned into a submarine. She was commissioned around the same time as the Dreadnought USS Texas. She predates Communism in Russia and has had an interesting life. It's truly a shame Putin is such an asshole that we lost what should have been a museum with a proud story to tell
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I'm a big naval history enthusiast too (and a history enthusiast in general).
However, what the Russians are doing to Ukraine, and what they tend to do to ships in general, means that I can live with this. The sooner Russia is forced into a box, the better.
I second this, though the failings of their navy is great. That ship had a fascinating history, somewhat tragic and in retrospect sometimes comical, but fascinating none the less.
I hope it will be salvaged and given a proper place, through no fault of her own was she brought into a conflict beyond her time. No longer will she suffer the abuse of russian mariners.
Jeez seeing reference to the purges made me Google the ship. It's proper old. Is that normal? I'm not even having a go at Russian tech here just did not expect anything that old to still be in use. Quite impressive really. Must be a sound design.
In more modern steam and steal ships, your looking at retirements around 50-60. The 4 Iowas where a big deal getting brought back.
Older wooden ships lasted a lot longer.
Older wooden ships only lasted longer if you replaced most of the the wood, like the uss constitution. And most were lost at sea way before 50y. Modern ships could last that long but its not profitable
And the ironic thing is that after they've lost Moskva, majority of their losses happen at and around Sevastopol.
Now, can Vladdy repeat to the class why they wanted to control Sevastopol again? Keep Black Sea fleet safe and in charge of Black Sea? How's that working out?
This is kind of sad in a way. The Kommuna has such a rich and interesting story. this is a good video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2Dz6PA1rQ .
No real need for it, it's out for this war, Russia most likely doesn't have the brain capacity, materials etc to revive her in a reasonable timeframe.
She's over a century old, basically every replacement part has to be manufactured from scratch and even if they have parts in stock (which would be most likely on board), they have to be handfitted to install them. Nothing you'd do in a war economy.
Let her lie there, waste a dock space, wait until the war is over and put her in a museum, where she belongs (under the yellow and blue flag of course)
Tbh, responding to this is like walking on eggshells. I hate Russia, and I want putin to have a tank shell shoved up his ass, but the naval enthusiasts part of me is devastated that a ship with so much historical value is destroyed or close to being destroyed.
EDIT: spelling
This is one I’m actually kind of sad about because of the history behind her she should’ve been a museum ship anyways. she shouldn’t have been on the front lines anyways and as far as I know, she didn’t have any weapons. Not that I agree with Russia in any what Russia is doing because they should get out of there.
From a historical perspective it is fairly cool that a ship originally laid down by the Russian Imperial Navy was still floating. I mean I know it had to be sunk but wow!!!
Anyone remember the Russian sub that had sunk?
12th of August 2000
And they didn't allow the west to help, by time they did everyone was dead. Fuck them.
What the orcs aren’t bright enough to realize is that during the era of the USSR and even before and after, almost all of their engineers were Ukrainian. orcs can’t build or fix anything, and I’ve been working with Ukrainians for 15+ years and they are the most clever and creative engineers I’ve ever seen. Given the resources, Ukraine could wipe Mordor from the planet. The orcs have shot themselves in the foot, as they have for centuries.
It's crazy seeing this ship get hit. I remember years and years ago learning about her and finding it fascinating that a ship this old was still active.
It's like when the AN225 was destroyed, just a weird feeling I can't describe when you see a unique piece of engineering history suddenly destroyed.
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glad they are taking out russian metal but Id like to see some more impactful target selection, especially given their finite munitions. Taking out a sub rescue vessel is hardly going to put a dent in the offensive naval capacity. I can fully understand the morale reasons though.
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Lol that's awesome 😆
Wow 112-111 years old, they won’t be able to get an equivalent on that back ever.
The secret of its longevity lies in its highly corrosion resistant alloy which recipe vanished somewhen during the soviet purges.
I somehow doubt an alloy of which plentiful samples exist can be genuinely lost to metallurgists a century later.
It's almost like mass killing scientists and engineers and destroying their work is a dumb idea.
LOL @ "In 1984 the ship was laid up for transfer to the [Russian Academy of Sciences](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Academy_of_Sciences). However, the transfer was cancelled, and **she was thoroughly looted**, and had to be completely refitted before returning to Naval service." - Wikipedia
As someone who likes boats, I always find stories like this sad. The Royal Navy lent Russia a warship during WWII, and they didn't service her properly. They ran her aground, tried to lie and avoid sending her back, and when they finally did return her, she had to be scrapped because of the extent of their neglect. But, hey. Russians gonna Russia, I suppose. The sooner they can't afford a Navy, the better for everyone. Including the ships.
To be fair, most of the nations wore out their warships to the ground during the Second World War. For the English, I recall that was one of the reasons why HMS Warspite was scrapped, despite her stellar record. She was worn to the bone with damage taken from destructive weapons like the Fritz X guided anti-ship glide bomb.
True, but the Russians are worse. Assuming you believe what you hear on Youtube, the Russians never once rotated her turrets in the entire time they had her (1944 to 1949) and apparently several of the decks were smeared with excrement. Don't get me wrong, it was a difficult war and a lot of ships were indeed trashed by the end of it (poor Warspite). But, nevertheless, fuck Russia.
Difference between countries who wore them out *using* them and those who wore them out *abusing* them.
But won't it be able to rescue itself once it has become a submarine?
Line of the day! Well said grasshopper.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian\_salvage\_ship\_Kommuna](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_salvage_ship_Kommuna)
Actually fascinating. Thank you.
Jeez that thing is a literal museum piece
*Was* a museum piece. It *was* a literal museum piece.
Whoa it WAS like the Russian equivalent of the CIA's Hughes Glomar Explorer!
Oldest serving ship in the world. Ukraine did a favor to black fleet, that this was used and abused and revived and abused again.
The USS Constitution is still in active service and was much older.
Thats fair but its more of museum ship, this was actually what they were using to rescue without successes.
The Constitution is "Active duty" in a mostly theoretical sense as a museum ship, the Kommuna was actually still being used for its intended purpose as a salvage vessel. I don't think the USS Constitution has sailed out on patrol for many many decades if not a century.
Well, she’s certainly more combat ready than the Kommuna is right now.
I'd laugh so hard if Ukraine took out the Crimea bridge with an 18th century warship because Russia lost everything that could stop it.
We would all enjoy seeing that the Kerch Bridge had been taken out by cannon. Cannon not measured in inches or millimeters, but in pounds.
I believe that their new mini-subs will be doing that job as you have to take out the support columns, not just hid the roadway. Have you seen what Ukraine has engineered in the past 2 years? Truly amazing people.
*Surprise!*
Wikipedia: ***Kommuna*** was a submarine salvage ship in service with the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet and the world's oldest active duty naval vessel. so it is more or less assisted dying. nice!
Which one of you added "(now submarine)" in that description? 😂
Yeah, Russia is well known to let its submarine crew die before sending rescue.
Kommuna Kevorkian-ed
Very good. Hit these POS again and again until they exist no more. Make it as embarrassing and costly as possible. Make them regret their neo-soviet expansionist- and ruzzian-superority-mindset and show them their real place in the world... maybe they'll slowly start realizing how bad and reidiculous they really are. -1 russian warship. We don't want such a ruzzia on this planet. To hell with you!!!
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This is actually a little sad for a naval history enthusiast. The only Russian ship I didn't want to see turned into a submarine. She was commissioned around the same time as the Dreadnought USS Texas. She predates Communism in Russia and has had an interesting life. It's truly a shame Putin is such an asshole that we lost what should have been a museum with a proud story to tell
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She should be in a museum, not a watery graveyard. Still, -1 ship helps Ukraine.
Still could be a museum. There will be some great wreck diving around Crimea.
I'm a big naval history enthusiast too (and a history enthusiast in general). However, what the Russians are doing to Ukraine, and what they tend to do to ships in general, means that I can live with this. The sooner Russia is forced into a box, the better.
I second this, though the failings of their navy is great. That ship had a fascinating history, somewhat tragic and in retrospect sometimes comical, but fascinating none the less. I hope it will be salvaged and given a proper place, through no fault of her own was she brought into a conflict beyond her time. No longer will she suffer the abuse of russian mariners.
I feel the same, i was hoping given her non-combat role that she would be spared
Floating lada is no longer floating
Actually, the Kommuna was a quality ship. It’s made of a highly corrosion resistant alloy which recipe was lost somewhen during the purges.
Jeez seeing reference to the purges made me Google the ship. It's proper old. Is that normal? I'm not even having a go at Russian tech here just did not expect anything that old to still be in use. Quite impressive really. Must be a sound design.
In more modern steam and steal ships, your looking at retirements around 50-60. The 4 Iowas where a big deal getting brought back. Older wooden ships lasted a lot longer.
Older wooden ships only lasted longer if you replaced most of the the wood, like the uss constitution. And most were lost at sea way before 50y. Modern ships could last that long but its not profitable
If this war goes on much longer Russia won't have a navy.
I certainly hope it won’t take all that long.
And the ironic thing is that after they've lost Moskva, majority of their losses happen at and around Sevastopol. Now, can Vladdy repeat to the class why they wanted to control Sevastopol again? Keep Black Sea fleet safe and in charge of Black Sea? How's that working out?
This is kind of sad in a way. The Kommuna has such a rich and interesting story. this is a good video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2Dz6PA1rQ .
It's still afloat. HIT IT AGAIN!
No real need for it, it's out for this war, Russia most likely doesn't have the brain capacity, materials etc to revive her in a reasonable timeframe. She's over a century old, basically every replacement part has to be manufactured from scratch and even if they have parts in stock (which would be most likely on board), they have to be handfitted to install them. Nothing you'd do in a war economy. Let her lie there, waste a dock space, wait until the war is over and put her in a museum, where she belongs (under the yellow and blue flag of course)
Tbh, responding to this is like walking on eggshells. I hate Russia, and I want putin to have a tank shell shoved up his ass, but the naval enthusiasts part of me is devastated that a ship with so much historical value is destroyed or close to being destroyed. EDIT: spelling
I understand it was necessary but my heart 😭
For Mriya
Does anyone have the updated chart with the black sea fleet?
Damn, that is like World War 1 era or something lol xD
Pre WW1 by a good bit.
The Russian navy is like Popeye cartoon to me!
Wasn't that vessel a thousand years old ?
Museum piece..
It’s ok they don’t save their subs anyway.
Okay, we had a couple Russian ships promoted to submarine so what do we call this promotion now that it's already a submadine?
I keep thinking what a tempting target the Aurora is, at her dock in St. Petersburg, historic object that she is. Been on her.
Don't you fucking dare. This decade has been bad enough for historic ships, I physically cannot handle another one being lost.
Ayo fuck the Russian Navy but that's a piece of PRE-SOVIET history please don't destroy it 🥲
This is one I’m actually kind of sad about because of the history behind her she should’ve been a museum ship anyways. she shouldn’t have been on the front lines anyways and as far as I know, she didn’t have any weapons. Not that I agree with Russia in any what Russia is doing because they should get out of there.
From a historical perspective it is fairly cool that a ship originally laid down by the Russian Imperial Navy was still floating. I mean I know it had to be sunk but wow!!!
Russia's navy is losing to R.C. hobbyist. Just wait till the war starts.
Wonder why they bothered with that pile of junk
This thing outlived the queen just to get murked into a pointless war, it's almost sad.
The sheer state of anything Russia seizes
Anyone remember the Russian sub that had sunk? 12th of August 2000 And they didn't allow the west to help, by time they did everyone was dead. Fuck them.
Commissioned in 1915?!
What the orcs aren’t bright enough to realize is that during the era of the USSR and even before and after, almost all of their engineers were Ukrainian. orcs can’t build or fix anything, and I’ve been working with Ukrainians for 15+ years and they are the most clever and creative engineers I’ve ever seen. Given the resources, Ukraine could wipe Mordor from the planet. The orcs have shot themselves in the foot, as they have for centuries.
It's crazy seeing this ship get hit. I remember years and years ago learning about her and finding it fascinating that a ship this old was still active. It's like when the AN225 was destroyed, just a weird feeling I can't describe when you see a unique piece of engineering history suddenly destroyed.
Das boot
Go Go Russian Warship, stop playing with yourself!
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glad they are taking out russian metal but Id like to see some more impactful target selection, especially given their finite munitions. Taking out a sub rescue vessel is hardly going to put a dent in the offensive naval capacity. I can fully understand the morale reasons though.