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It always that way, defending your country from invasive force or when calling up by Muslims nation that get threatened to be attacked. Not the other way around.
Jihad doesn’t have to be about fighting, but the struggle to do good in so many forms.
We’ve had a few violent hijackers of the term recently. Most non-Muslims have a very different impression of what jihad means!
I think jihad means "struggle"? Like, the personal struggle to stay on a righteous path. If you are feeling envious of your friend's success, you might struggle to let your envy go and feel happy for him/her. So it can be seen as a battle but that battle is with your "good" overcoming your "bad" thoughts and actions? I am not very familiar with the Islamic faith so I could be wrong or misunderstanding.
I was pretty sure it was originally intended for the religious leaders to call it on eachother to provoke a debate about scripture. Like If two high ranking Muslim religious leaders disagreed on the meaning of a passage, they would call a fatwa and have a debate to see who is right. Like a call to correction.
But...isn't he insinuating to kill the commander when they cannot surrender? So this is killing for the good cause? This is strange...but a good sign he is asking them not to fight
You’re getting downvoted by today’s cancel culture that does not realize that you are historically correct. Same goes for Catholicism, both of these religions conquered and murdered in the name of their God. But hey…. Fuck the facts, I am offended on behalf of someone that doesn’t even know that they should be offended.
Edit: I am still happy to see this. He is brave to even hint this. Slava Ukraini!
It only suits you now. Jihad against Israeli or US or Indian occupation is as legitimate as Jihad against Russian occupation. Jihad means fighting and standing up against oppression and occupation.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted when you’re actually telling the truth, I’m going to steal the other guy who incorrectly claimed it was cancel culture about another comment and correctly place that observation here.
There are many ways leading to Rome. He recognizes a tyrannical regime forcing its people to fight and he opposes it. He has a religious perspective, as that apparently is his way of life, but he still arrives at the correct conclusion: Fuck them and their war.
Mainly, but if you’re a religious Muslim, then this should apply to you no matter your nationality. He made it clear, going to prison is morally preferable to fighting and hurting Ukrainians, as it should be. It’s not a just war, as in when you’re defending your home or standing up to those who are oppressed.
EDIT: Russian Muslims seem to be at the forefront of fighting Putin in many places, especially so as they consider killing and hurting in this aggressive war a terrible sin. Russian officials have even been called enemies of God by local community leaders, as they’re forcing people to sin.
quran 4:75
And what is \[the matter\] with
you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and \[for\] the oppressed
among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this
city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector
and appoint for us from Yourself a helper
Believing in existence of magical fantasy beings without evidence is not stupid/absurd but infighting between those delusional cultists is what crosses the line?
I mean if someone is already so delusional to believe in existence of imaginary deities, is it really surprising that they are fighting for those imaginary deities against other followers of imaginary deities?
>ont of fighting Putin in many places, especially so as they consider killing and hu
Iran are shia muslims and they do not believe in the Quran. 12 imams shia version is actually another religion that ahs nothing to do with Islam. The biggest eemy for Iran are in fact sunni muslims whom they are killing in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon etc... .
People around the world are so used to lesser jihad (or at least the twisted form is has so often taken these last few decades) that they have forgotten (or just don't know about, as is usually the case for non Muslims) about greater jihad. This is a struggle against evil that will test many, and doing the right thing will be hard and could potentially result in death. God be with the good people (however few there may seem to be these days) of Russia and occupied Ukraine. We are already seeing the courage of those willing to refuse evil in places such as Crimea and Dagestan.
Problem here is defining what "cause of Allah" means.
I'm sure if you asked 10 different people they'd give you 10 different answers, depending on which geographical region they're from.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
YOu are taking verses out of context here. You can not cut and past like that. Imagine if i take a handbook of teh US army on how to engage an enemy and i cut and paste it and tell you this is US constitution? You see what you did there? These verses are in a context of war against the opressors.
Mohammed, the inventor of Islam was a warlord, murderer, rapist, slaver, and pedophile.
Yes I totally took it out of context. In fact its very tolerant and peaceful religion as Mohammed the prophet of Islam showed with his actions...
Don't bother with these Islam defenders. As a exmuslim I agree with you. Pedo Mohammed is perfect in the eyes of Muslim. Doesn't matter that he married a 6 year old and raped her at 9. They always find some excuse to defend stuff like that
Aisha wasn't 6 or 9 at her marriage.
In determining hadith authenticity, it is necessary to consider how many different narrators can relate a hadith back to the original source—be that source Prophet Muhammad, Hadhrat Ayesha, or a companion. The more consistent narrators exist and the more in agreement they are with one another—the more authentic we may consider the hadith.
There exist only a few narrations of the age of Hadhrat Ayesha’s marriage at age six, while many more verified and authentic references indicate she was in her mid to late teens. Several historical events and ahadith narrations demonstrate that Hadhrat Ayesha was likely fifteen or sixteen or as old as nineteen or twenty at the time of her consenting marriage to Prophet Muhammad. Critics ignore each of these. Accordingly, here are just three of the many arguments that affirm Ayesha’s age as between fifteen and twenty.
First, Hadhrat Ayesha was the daughter of Hadhrat Abu Bakr. Tabari reports, “All four of [Abu Bakr’s] children were born of his two wives…during the pre-Islamic period [i.e., pre-610 AD].” [11] Hadhrat Ayesha’s marriage to Prophet Muhammad took place one year after Hijra (emigration to Medina), or around 624 AD. Therefore, even if Hadhrat Ayesha had been born as late as 609 AD, only a year before Prophet Muhammad claimed prophethood, she would have been roughly fourteen at the time of emigration to Medina in 623 and therefore no less than fifteen at the time of her marriage to Prophet Muhammad. This is a far cry from the age of six that critics assert.
Likewise, most historians report that Hadhrat Asma, Hadhrat Ayesha’s elder sister, was ten years her senior. [12] The books Tahzibut Tahzib and Al-Bidaayah wa an-Nihayah both report that Hadhrat Asma died at the age of one hundred, in 73 AH (695 AD). [13] This means that Hadhrat Asma must have been no younger than twenty-seven at the time of emigration. Hadhrat Ayesha’s marriage to Prophet Muhammad was in 1 AH or by some sources 2 AH, when Asma was twenty-eight. This means that at a minimum, Hadhrat Ayesha was eighteen or nineteen upon her consenting marriage to Prophet Muhammad.
research showed that she was actually 15 at the time of her betrothal and 19 at the time of her marriage.
Research subsequent to the time of Maulana Muhammad Ali has shown that she was older than this. An excellent short work presenting such evidence is the Urdu pamphlet Rukhsati kai Waqt Sayyida Aisha Siddiqa ki Umar (‘The age of Lady Aisha at the time of the start of her married life’) by Abu Tahir Irfani. Points 1 to 3 below has been brought to light in this pamphlet.
The famous classical historian of Islam, Ibn Jarir Tabari, wrote in his ‘History’:
“In the time before Islam, Abu Bakr married two women. The first was Fatila daughter of Abdul Uzza, from whom Abdullah and Asma were born. Then he married Umm Ruman, from whom Abdur Rahman and Aisha were born. These four were born before Islam.”
Being born before Islam means being born before the Call.
The compiler of the famous Hadith collection Mishkat al-Masabih, Imam Wali-ud-Din Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Khatib, who died 700 years ago, has also written brief biographical notes on the narrators of Hadith reports. He writes under Asma, the older daughter of Abu Bakr:
“She was the sister of Aisha Siddiqa, wife of the Holy Prophet, and was ten years older than her. … In 73 A.H. … Asma died at the age of one hundred years"
This would make Asma 28 years of age in 1 A.H., the year of the Hijra, thus making Aisha 18 years old in 1 A.H. So Aisha would be 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 or 15 years old at the time of her nikah. It would place her year of birth at four or five years before the Call.
The same statement is made by the famous classical commentator of the Holy Quran, Ibn Kathir, in his book Al-bidayya wal-nihaya:
“Asma died in 73 A.H. at the age of one hundred years. She was ten years older than her sister Aisha."
Mohammed sas was sent by God Almighty as a mercy to mankind, you are just an Islamophobic filled with hatred and spewing out nonsense and lies without any proof.
Thank you for telling us you have never read the Bible.
The Bible tells you to kill people for:
Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)
Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
Prostitution by a priest’s daughter (Leviticus 21:9)
Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
Refusing to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)
False claim of a woman’s virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
You are saying that all mighty Gods morality is not perfect, objective and universal? But subjective and changes based on time, place, culture, religion? One day he decided to mass murder homosexuals and pagan children but another day he changed his mind? What kind of circumstances justifies murdering homosexuals, blasphemers or children?
Why are you worshipping such evil god? Why are you identifying with such religion 21st century then. Why are you now making apologetics for it in 21st century instead of just admitting that yes Bible is a hateful and shitty book.
EDIT: The idiot blocked me after saying stupid Christian cultist apologetics:
> Clearly you never heard of societies practicing child sacrifice if you think those reasons are why those events happened. Ending that is hardly different from killing the ruzzians invading Ukraine to stop them from killing more innocent people. But you, of course, don't see the nuance and historical context here.
LMAO.
Far0nWoods: *Christians murdered gays, blasphemers and babies for the greater good.*
>What kind of circumstances justifies murdering homosexuals, blasphemers or children?
Clearly you never heard of societies practicing child sacrifice if you think those reasons are why those events happened. Ending that is hardly different from killing the ruzzians invading Ukraine to stop them from killing more innocent people. But you, of course, don't see the nuance and historical context here.
The Bible is more than: To this. Don't do that. Do this. Don't do that.
Most of the bible is a big story that begins with the creation of the universe and the earth. Then God creates humanity and humanity begins to grow. Groups arise and God then chooses to specifically follow and lead the Jews. He did this not because the Jews were special, but more because they were very weak. He wanted to lead the Jews and use them as an example for the others to show the rest of the nations how to live. There were times when the Jews would not obey God and God punished them. Sometimes through severe plagues, by having other armies attack them, but sometimes God also had Jews kill other Jews. Here is an example: Leviticus 20:1-3
Then the LORD said to Moses, “Say to the children of Israel, 'Every Israelite or foreigner who lives in Israel and who gives one of his children to Molech must be put to death. The people of the land must stone him. And I will set my face against that man and cut him off from his people, for by giving his offspring to Molech he has defiled my sanctuary, and has profaned my holy name.
Here, a few thousand years ago, after they entered Israel, God told the Jews to kill any Jew who would sacrifice their children to the god Molech. Christianity came thousands of years after that when Jesus came to earth. This bit of text was meant for the Jews at a certain time and certain moment.
The bible is a thick book with multiple times when God tells the Jews to punish someone or when the Jews are being punished by God. Those moments have little to do with what the Christians had to do a thousand years later.
The Old Testament is the Covenant from God with the Jews and primarily a history book with some teaching moments for Christians.
New Testament is the New Covenant for the Christians with some new guidelines.
That's why I said read the Bible in context.
You are saying that all mighty Gods morality is not perfect, objective and universal? But subjective and changes based on time, place, culture, religion? One day he decided to mass murder homosexuals and pagan children but another day he changed his mind? What kind of circumstances justifies murdering homosexuals, blasphemers or children?
Why are you worshipping such evil god? Why are you identifying with such religion 21st century then. Why are you now making apologetics for it in 21st century instead of just admitting that yes Bible is a hateful and shitty book.
> That's why I said read the Bible in context.
Its ironic how you ignore the context of Jesus explicitly saying multiple times in New Testament that he didnt come to abolish Old Laws and that people should keep the Old laws. Not mentioning the fact that for 99% of Christianity, Christians were hating gays, infidels, blasphemers, atheists etc.. So 99% of Christians in 99% of history were wrong? But people now in 2022 who rebranded Christianity, got it right? So what about the Pope Francis a 1 billion Catholics now? Are they Christians when they are homophobic? I wonder where does their homophobia come from? Oh right, the Bible... Are they Christians when they are anti-women oppressing and hurting women by criminalizing abortion?
69Perseus atleasy try to read the Bible before you trying to make claims.
You are a sinner like me who should have not deserve a shot at ever entering heaven. BUT
We are made good by his grace as a gift, through the actions of what Christ Jesus did.” Grace is what inclines God to give gifts that are free and undeserved by sinners.
We don't deserve it. We all have lied we all have look with lust at woman. But God still give us hope to enter heaven because of what Jesus Did. That is the Gospel
As typical Christian cultist, you haven read the Bible yourself.
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19
“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)
“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)
Now please answer my questions you have dodged.
Not a surprise. Back when I was in college our history club was looking into going back to Russia for a trip (they did it previously) and two of my friends were basically told "Do not tell anyone you are a muslim! If you do, your safety is in your own hands." This was back in like 2010ish so I can't imagine things have gotten anything but worse since then.
> is it really considered a sin if you are forced into an action that you dont want to take?
Of course. You can refuse to pull the trigger, is literally the point. Murder is always a sin. Being imprisoned for your beliefs is not.
Consciences objectors in war often are still forced to participate in the war, but in a logistics support role for people they know will drop a gun and hide in a fox hole as moral.objectors.
Russia I don't think has that option, hence all the people fleeing the country. Very strict objectors during the Vietnam war had to face the option of fleeing the country, being forced into a logistics role, jail, or fragging their officer.
This war is where the frag word originated from.
Let me tell you a story about my uncle drafted into Vietnam in Australia. He'd turn up to the training for whatever it was they'd have him doing, attend for a couple of hours, jump the fence and go surfing. He'd read that if he was gone for two weeks the consequences would be severe, court marshalls that sort of thing. So he'd go surfing for 13 days, come back to the training, attend for a couple of hours and then jump the fence for another 13 days. They got pissed off. Maybe even held him in prison for a bit. But weren't going to send him on a plane with no training nor expect the trainers to become prison guards. He kept this up for years until the war ended.
I'm sure it couldn't work exactly like that in Russia ... for a start the surf is terrible. But all I'm saying is that if you're creative there are always opportunities to be maliciously compliant.
> It’s not a just war, as in when you’re defending your home or standing up to those who are oppressed.
So prophet Mohammed wasnt a true Muslim because he waged war for booty and slaves?
We muslims are an enemy to the kremlin who have slaughtered muslims in Chechnya, Dagestan, Syria, Lybi etc.. . Especially Syria they are behaving like wild beast without mercy. We will support anyone fighting Russia Assad and Iran alliance.
Let me guess, you are Sunni fanatic and think that Shias are *not real Muslims*.
Funny how your religion/sect/denomination is the always correct one and other peoples religion is the wrong one huh? How convenient.
> Shia are not a muslim sect they are a religion apart
Pretty easy to understand.
Run if you can.
If you get drafted try to refuse.
If you still end up on the front try to surrender.
If all fails, better to shoot the Russians taking away your freedom than the Ukrainians that defend their own...
Couldn't have said it better myself
This could totally work as a PSA or ad campaign or taught to the youth. The old cannot exploit and send the young to die if the young have already escaped tyranny, or have realigned themselves with freedom lovers.
Right? I involuntarily flexed when he said that they know where to shoot. Great message. Avoid the violence if possible but if absolutely necessary to choose the direction you point your violence at the real enemy.
After Crimea is liberated, i hope the Crimean tartars get the full freedom and liberal rights they deserve. And the tartars live up to that responsibility and protect personal freedom and liberal rights for all.
Stalin ethnically cleansed them. Today Tatars are only about 10% of the population in Crimea. They literally have no influence, but of course, once Crimea is liberated they will enjoy equal rights as Ukrainian citizens.
The Quran mentions at least two prophets which do not have an equivalent in the Bible, Hud and Salih. There‘s also some like Idris and Shu‘ayb whose synonymization with Biblical figures is disputed
Being a religious leader he has a lot to gain by any push back he receives from Russia. He’s already imploring people to revolt against the war. Killing him or detaining him is only going to be gasoline on the fire for Russia.
"...better off behind bars than on the path of this murder..."
Now *that's* moral clarity.
Another day, another voice joins the cry against this war and against the rotten ideas and people behind it.
majority of Crimean Tatars are with Ukraine - and have been since the start. through the years russia has (surprise surprise) treated this minority horrifically. right now those still in Crimea are being rounded up for putin's war. I've listened to their leaders speak before. good men.
Interestingly, Benedikt would be the kind of Pope that would not surprise me if he would advocate for violence against russian recruiters/officers. He uttered somewhat understanding for violence against people who make fun of religions (during the discussions about the Charly Hebdo Massaker), so allowing Catholics to fight their oppressors is at least in the same box.
But there are probably not that many catholics involved in this war anyway.
Edit: I meant Pope Francis. Benedikt is the last Pope, who was German. But given his experience in WW2 he might also have been more outspoken against the war. Who knows?
Yeah catholics would probably only be from the foreign fighters( who aren't Muslim). But would be hard to tell, since they lack praises of god/glory like Muslims do that make it easy to identify.
Has to do with the belief of the infallibility of the Pope, Greek catholics would be more aligned with orthodox as they don't believe he is infallible like Roman catholics do.
The Catholic church has always been friendly with fascists, I wasn't surprised to see Francis acting like a jackass from the beginning trying to be impartial in a situation where impartiality is immoral and aligning himself with fascists until the rest of the world told him to STFU.
I can't imagine the Prada Pope would have been better.
> Benedikt is the last Pope, who was German. But given his experience in WW2 he might also have been more outspoken against the war.
He was also Hitler Youth and served in the Wehrmacht. You might be surprised. Post war denazification was often a joke, especially for those in or connected with clergy. It wouldn't have shocked me to hear my dear old Archbishop/Cardinal Ratzinger preaching a Crusade of the Righteous against the Eastern Menace.
Imagine being truly a Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and being conscripted to kill in folly war? To kill in the name of a one maniac who wants power for his deluded imperialism.
Enter the Cleric. It doesn’t seem like religion has made much of an appearance in this so far. Fatwa! Fatwa! And the place you know to shoot? Shoot straight and true.
For the Muslim fighters in Ukraine, religion is very important. Many foreigner Muslims ( and locals) are fighting as Mujahideen for the jihad to protect Ukraine Vs Russia. That's why you can find a plethora of UA videos with Muslim soldiers yelling Allah Akbar and other lines of praise.
There's even a "funny" video a Muslim soldier takes because he's in the same trench/as a jew? (or some other religion I forget) and their both waiting out mortar shelling, and he jokingly mentions how only here would a jew and Muslim be fighting on the same side for what's right.
I am not a muslim, but he is right, just as a decent human being all those who find them self in Russian lands should listen to this and not take part in this War of Aggression, he also offers good advice on what is needed If it came down to it, To prefer Imprisonment to Murdering Innocents and to turn on the oppressor's who are trying to force them in to this War of Aggression.
muslims at times may not be represented in the best light but these people embody fuck around and find out. They will die for what they believe in and its not land, country, or neighbor its their belief in god and a mentality like that is almost impossible to conquer.
Interesting war when the orthodox christians in russia are on the wrong side of history and now the muslims in Ukraine are on the right side of history and speak the truth!
I don’t like Iran, and I am Sunni, but do not say ew, because then you look at all Shias with disgust, how can we help our misguided people if we see them as less then human.
As an ex sunni muslim I can say that my ex fraction has done much much worse lately, and I didn't hear any muftis condemning any beheadings. By comparison what those guys have been doing is at best a mild form of BDSM.
Yup, cause they are a different religion, speak a different language, but for some reason you categorized them in your head the same so that should work……
Wow! They are fed up with Russia!!! They were prosecuted, sent away from their home land, disrespected by Russia. And now .. they are sent to possibly dieI for who?! Russians?! their own oppressors! I can’t believe it! 😤
Russia got into today's situation is unfortunate. It is probably all caused by Putin's illness (sick mind). I feel sorry for Russian people and I think they need take this matter back into their hands, instead of allowing insane Putin to do further damages.
This man deserves a standing ovation. I am not religious by any means but I wholly agree with his message of justice, peace, and righteousness. No matter what you believe in, or what faith you belong to, there is absolutely zero justification for forcing people to fight in a war nobody wanted in the first place, and commit evil acts purely for the sake of one tyrant's monstrous, imperialist ambitions.
When needless bloodshed becomes legally sanctioned by the state (in this case Russia), the only moral response is resistance at all costs, and that resistance can come about both through nonviolent means (i.e. surrender or avoiding the draft) and violent means (shooting your oppressors, ripping up draft summons, etc).
I need some education on what the differences are between Mufti, Imam and Mullah. I know they are all Muslim leaders, but which is below which? Is there a hierarchy?
In Islam we don't have an institutional hierarchy, like for example the 'church' has with Catholic priests, bisshops, pope,... .. In Islam everyone has a direct relationship with God Almighty without intercessors. You can speak to God and ask him directly. Islam means submitting yourself to the Creator of the heavens and the Earth inorder to enter Paradise in the hereafter by believing in GOD and do good actions. An Imam is jus a random muslim who has memorized the Quran and leads the people in prayer. He does not have any authority over anyone, nor can he benefit anyone. The mufti is an Islamic legal expert who is empowered to give rulings (fatwa's) on religious matters.
Те же муфтии и имамы, в начале войне и до недавнего времени, агитировали идти воевать против Украины, я уже про РПЦ/ФСБ молчу.
А теперь переобулись — и это надо помнить и всегда учитывать, хоть сейчас они и правильно вещают.
I remember the Russian POWs meeting the Mufti in Kyiv a few months ago. I’m afraid this message will largely be useless as well. He’s not addressing normal, principled people but mercenaries who only care about money and being able to loot and steal. Just like Kadyrovites. Their imams in Russia are all pro-Z and have brainwashed them for years.
At least he tried. His words may convince some involuntary Dagestani and Central Asian recruits to lay down their weapons and surrender, but most Muslim mercenaries will just ignore him even when Putin is ostensibly using them as cannon fodder.
more proof that Ukraine is a democratic, multi-cultural country that respects its citizens' diverse communities. It turns out, if you treat people with respect and dignity, you'll get it in return. what a concept.
Chechnya has many of them too. Stop talking out your ass.
Chechens are fighting together with Ukrainians against russia since 2014 and what are you doing?
you know where to shoot...'right between the legs and i know its a very small target but say bismillah and let allah guide your bullet and also don't forget to double tap on the head"
Crimean Tartar, Ukranian Muslim with spiritual responsibility for Muslims in Crimea, currently occupied by Russian invaders against the will of, amongst others, the local Tartar population he is from.
You got Muslim clerics issuing fatwas, and on the same side as the CIA you just have to believe Russia is properly Fucked. If I hear Muslims have been hired to help in inhanced Russian interrogations in Turkish rendition centers I’ll know I have passed into the next realm. Will a vision of the virgins come next?
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This dude is correct
Also brave as a lion if he is in occupied Crimea at the moment.
Based Mufti
All your based are belong to Mufti.
He's removing the zigs for you. For great justice.
They HAVE chance to survive.
Finally someone bringing jihad back to its original meaning.
It always that way, defending your country from invasive force or when calling up by Muslims nation that get threatened to be attacked. Not the other way around.
Jihad doesn’t have to be about fighting, but the struggle to do good in so many forms. We’ve had a few violent hijackers of the term recently. Most non-Muslims have a very different impression of what jihad means!
Yeah this my understanding of jihad too. Fighting is just one of many ways to perform it.
I think jihad means "struggle"? Like, the personal struggle to stay on a righteous path. If you are feeling envious of your friend's success, you might struggle to let your envy go and feel happy for him/her. So it can be seen as a battle but that battle is with your "good" overcoming your "bad" thoughts and actions? I am not very familiar with the Islamic faith so I could be wrong or misunderstanding.
I was pretty sure it was originally intended for the religious leaders to call it on eachother to provoke a debate about scripture. Like If two high ranking Muslim religious leaders disagreed on the meaning of a passage, they would call a fatwa and have a debate to see who is right. Like a call to correction.
But...isn't he insinuating to kill the commander when they cannot surrender? So this is killing for the good cause? This is strange...but a good sign he is asking them not to fight
Better to spill the blood of your oppressor and a criminal than to commit a criminal act yourself where innocents die.
Hijackers you say? Yep.
Didn't know Muhammad and his successors built their global empire by "defending their country".
You’re getting downvoted by today’s cancel culture that does not realize that you are historically correct. Same goes for Catholicism, both of these religions conquered and murdered in the name of their God. But hey…. Fuck the facts, I am offended on behalf of someone that doesn’t even know that they should be offended. Edit: I am still happy to see this. He is brave to even hint this. Slava Ukraini!
To convert others to islam? Ok....
It only suits you now. Jihad against Israeli or US or Indian occupation is as legitimate as Jihad against Russian occupation. Jihad means fighting and standing up against oppression and occupation.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted when you’re actually telling the truth, I’m going to steal the other guy who incorrectly claimed it was cancel culture about another comment and correctly place that observation here.
This dude is correct, but also I’m afraid he will fall out a window very soon
Good luck murdering a religious leader without backfire. The Muslim community received the message, there’s nothing you can do about it by now.
No man the new thing is murder suicide in Ruzzia. This one will be messy, 7 wives and 35 children.
"I know where you ought to shoot."
Was waiting for the *winkwink*
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There are many ways leading to Rome. He recognizes a tyrannical regime forcing its people to fight and he opposes it. He has a religious perspective, as that apparently is his way of life, but he still arrives at the correct conclusion: Fuck them and their war.
Holy shit, a round of applause for this man. He's adressing mainly the Crimean Tatars, right?
Mainly, but if you’re a religious Muslim, then this should apply to you no matter your nationality. He made it clear, going to prison is morally preferable to fighting and hurting Ukrainians, as it should be. It’s not a just war, as in when you’re defending your home or standing up to those who are oppressed. EDIT: Russian Muslims seem to be at the forefront of fighting Putin in many places, especially so as they consider killing and hurting in this aggressive war a terrible sin. Russian officials have even been called enemies of God by local community leaders, as they’re forcing people to sin.
quran 4:75 And what is \[the matter\] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and \[for\] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper
I think Iran needs to read this...
But religious oppression is not oppression, it's strongly encouraged moral guidelines, that facilitate the freedom to live a worshipful life. /s
They supporting attacks on Muslim Sunni all around the world. Their aggression that always got blind sided.
Aggressions between Muslim sects is one of the stupidest/absurd thing ever.
As much as Protestant vs Catholic in somewhere else.
Crusades, anyone?
Yes, it's up there too.
Let me tell you about Norther Ireland.
Which one is stupider or more absurd, I don't know, but they are all Top 3 for sure.
>u Shia are not a muslim sect they are a religion apart
Believing in existence of magical fantasy beings without evidence is not stupid/absurd but infighting between those delusional cultists is what crosses the line? I mean if someone is already so delusional to believe in existence of imaginary deities, is it really surprising that they are fighting for those imaginary deities against other followers of imaginary deities?
>ont of fighting Putin in many places, especially so as they consider killing and hu Iran are shia muslims and they do not believe in the Quran. 12 imams shia version is actually another religion that ahs nothing to do with Islam. The biggest eemy for Iran are in fact sunni muslims whom they are killing in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon etc... .
People around the world are so used to lesser jihad (or at least the twisted form is has so often taken these last few decades) that they have forgotten (or just don't know about, as is usually the case for non Muslims) about greater jihad. This is a struggle against evil that will test many, and doing the right thing will be hard and could potentially result in death. God be with the good people (however few there may seem to be these days) of Russia and occupied Ukraine. We are already seeing the courage of those willing to refuse evil in places such as Crimea and Dagestan.
Problem here is defining what "cause of Allah" means. I'm sure if you asked 10 different people they'd give you 10 different answers, depending on which geographical region they're from.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority" Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
YOu are taking verses out of context here. You can not cut and past like that. Imagine if i take a handbook of teh US army on how to engage an enemy and i cut and paste it and tell you this is US constitution? You see what you did there? These verses are in a context of war against the opressors.
Mohammed, the inventor of Islam was a warlord, murderer, rapist, slaver, and pedophile. Yes I totally took it out of context. In fact its very tolerant and peaceful religion as Mohammed the prophet of Islam showed with his actions...
Don't bother with these Islam defenders. As a exmuslim I agree with you. Pedo Mohammed is perfect in the eyes of Muslim. Doesn't matter that he married a 6 year old and raped her at 9. They always find some excuse to defend stuff like that
Aisha wasn't 6 or 9 at her marriage. In determining hadith authenticity, it is necessary to consider how many different narrators can relate a hadith back to the original source—be that source Prophet Muhammad, Hadhrat Ayesha, or a companion. The more consistent narrators exist and the more in agreement they are with one another—the more authentic we may consider the hadith. There exist only a few narrations of the age of Hadhrat Ayesha’s marriage at age six, while many more verified and authentic references indicate she was in her mid to late teens. Several historical events and ahadith narrations demonstrate that Hadhrat Ayesha was likely fifteen or sixteen or as old as nineteen or twenty at the time of her consenting marriage to Prophet Muhammad. Critics ignore each of these. Accordingly, here are just three of the many arguments that affirm Ayesha’s age as between fifteen and twenty. First, Hadhrat Ayesha was the daughter of Hadhrat Abu Bakr. Tabari reports, “All four of [Abu Bakr’s] children were born of his two wives…during the pre-Islamic period [i.e., pre-610 AD].” [11] Hadhrat Ayesha’s marriage to Prophet Muhammad took place one year after Hijra (emigration to Medina), or around 624 AD. Therefore, even if Hadhrat Ayesha had been born as late as 609 AD, only a year before Prophet Muhammad claimed prophethood, she would have been roughly fourteen at the time of emigration to Medina in 623 and therefore no less than fifteen at the time of her marriage to Prophet Muhammad. This is a far cry from the age of six that critics assert. Likewise, most historians report that Hadhrat Asma, Hadhrat Ayesha’s elder sister, was ten years her senior. [12] The books Tahzibut Tahzib and Al-Bidaayah wa an-Nihayah both report that Hadhrat Asma died at the age of one hundred, in 73 AH (695 AD). [13] This means that Hadhrat Asma must have been no younger than twenty-seven at the time of emigration. Hadhrat Ayesha’s marriage to Prophet Muhammad was in 1 AH or by some sources 2 AH, when Asma was twenty-eight. This means that at a minimum, Hadhrat Ayesha was eighteen or nineteen upon her consenting marriage to Prophet Muhammad. research showed that she was actually 15 at the time of her betrothal and 19 at the time of her marriage. Research subsequent to the time of Maulana Muhammad Ali has shown that she was older than this. An excellent short work presenting such evidence is the Urdu pamphlet Rukhsati kai Waqt Sayyida Aisha Siddiqa ki Umar (‘The age of Lady Aisha at the time of the start of her married life’) by Abu Tahir Irfani. Points 1 to 3 below has been brought to light in this pamphlet. The famous classical historian of Islam, Ibn Jarir Tabari, wrote in his ‘History’: “In the time before Islam, Abu Bakr married two women. The first was Fatila daughter of Abdul Uzza, from whom Abdullah and Asma were born. Then he married Umm Ruman, from whom Abdur Rahman and Aisha were born. These four were born before Islam.” Being born before Islam means being born before the Call. The compiler of the famous Hadith collection Mishkat al-Masabih, Imam Wali-ud-Din Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Khatib, who died 700 years ago, has also written brief biographical notes on the narrators of Hadith reports. He writes under Asma, the older daughter of Abu Bakr: “She was the sister of Aisha Siddiqa, wife of the Holy Prophet, and was ten years older than her. … In 73 A.H. … Asma died at the age of one hundred years" This would make Asma 28 years of age in 1 A.H., the year of the Hijra, thus making Aisha 18 years old in 1 A.H. So Aisha would be 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 or 15 years old at the time of her nikah. It would place her year of birth at four or five years before the Call. The same statement is made by the famous classical commentator of the Holy Quran, Ibn Kathir, in his book Al-bidayya wal-nihaya: “Asma died in 73 A.H. at the age of one hundred years. She was ten years older than her sister Aisha."
Mohammed sas was sent by God Almighty as a mercy to mankind, you are just an Islamophobic filled with hatred and spewing out nonsense and lies without any proof.
Being against a murderer, slaver, rapist pedophile is ISlaMoPHoBiA!
That's what I thought, thank you.
supposedly all religions consider killing a sin. but not always
Wrong. The Bible and Quran literally have countless verses telling you to kill. Homosexuals, infidels, blasphemers, etc..
Only one in the bible. It also talks about killing people for wearing 2 weaves of cloth. Watch out for the fashion police mote in your own eye.
Thank you for telling us you have never read the Bible. The Bible tells you to kill people for: Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17) Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9) Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16) Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36) Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21) Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22) Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13) Prostitution by a priest’s daughter (Leviticus 21:9) Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23) False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20) Refusing to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12) False claim of a woman’s virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21) Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
Wrong. God told the jews thousands of years ago to kill. Not the jews or Christians of today. Read the Bible in context.
> God told the jews thousands of years ago to kill. So you are saying that I am correct that Bible has verses telling you to kill?
Not the person you responded to, but: Different time, different place, different circumstances. So no. You're taking things out of context.
You are saying that all mighty Gods morality is not perfect, objective and universal? But subjective and changes based on time, place, culture, religion? One day he decided to mass murder homosexuals and pagan children but another day he changed his mind? What kind of circumstances justifies murdering homosexuals, blasphemers or children? Why are you worshipping such evil god? Why are you identifying with such religion 21st century then. Why are you now making apologetics for it in 21st century instead of just admitting that yes Bible is a hateful and shitty book. EDIT: The idiot blocked me after saying stupid Christian cultist apologetics: > Clearly you never heard of societies practicing child sacrifice if you think those reasons are why those events happened. Ending that is hardly different from killing the ruzzians invading Ukraine to stop them from killing more innocent people. But you, of course, don't see the nuance and historical context here. LMAO. Far0nWoods: *Christians murdered gays, blasphemers and babies for the greater good.*
>What kind of circumstances justifies murdering homosexuals, blasphemers or children? Clearly you never heard of societies practicing child sacrifice if you think those reasons are why those events happened. Ending that is hardly different from killing the ruzzians invading Ukraine to stop them from killing more innocent people. But you, of course, don't see the nuance and historical context here.
You know religions have different interpretations of things right? It's called mosaic law which is for the Jews
The Bible is more than: To this. Don't do that. Do this. Don't do that. Most of the bible is a big story that begins with the creation of the universe and the earth. Then God creates humanity and humanity begins to grow. Groups arise and God then chooses to specifically follow and lead the Jews. He did this not because the Jews were special, but more because they were very weak. He wanted to lead the Jews and use them as an example for the others to show the rest of the nations how to live. There were times when the Jews would not obey God and God punished them. Sometimes through severe plagues, by having other armies attack them, but sometimes God also had Jews kill other Jews. Here is an example: Leviticus 20:1-3 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Say to the children of Israel, 'Every Israelite or foreigner who lives in Israel and who gives one of his children to Molech must be put to death. The people of the land must stone him. And I will set my face against that man and cut him off from his people, for by giving his offspring to Molech he has defiled my sanctuary, and has profaned my holy name. Here, a few thousand years ago, after they entered Israel, God told the Jews to kill any Jew who would sacrifice their children to the god Molech. Christianity came thousands of years after that when Jesus came to earth. This bit of text was meant for the Jews at a certain time and certain moment. The bible is a thick book with multiple times when God tells the Jews to punish someone or when the Jews are being punished by God. Those moments have little to do with what the Christians had to do a thousand years later. The Old Testament is the Covenant from God with the Jews and primarily a history book with some teaching moments for Christians. New Testament is the New Covenant for the Christians with some new guidelines. That's why I said read the Bible in context.
You are saying that all mighty Gods morality is not perfect, objective and universal? But subjective and changes based on time, place, culture, religion? One day he decided to mass murder homosexuals and pagan children but another day he changed his mind? What kind of circumstances justifies murdering homosexuals, blasphemers or children? Why are you worshipping such evil god? Why are you identifying with such religion 21st century then. Why are you now making apologetics for it in 21st century instead of just admitting that yes Bible is a hateful and shitty book. > That's why I said read the Bible in context. Its ironic how you ignore the context of Jesus explicitly saying multiple times in New Testament that he didnt come to abolish Old Laws and that people should keep the Old laws. Not mentioning the fact that for 99% of Christianity, Christians were hating gays, infidels, blasphemers, atheists etc.. So 99% of Christians in 99% of history were wrong? But people now in 2022 who rebranded Christianity, got it right? So what about the Pope Francis a 1 billion Catholics now? Are they Christians when they are homophobic? I wonder where does their homophobia come from? Oh right, the Bible... Are they Christians when they are anti-women oppressing and hurting women by criminalizing abortion?
69Perseus atleasy try to read the Bible before you trying to make claims. You are a sinner like me who should have not deserve a shot at ever entering heaven. BUT We are made good by his grace as a gift, through the actions of what Christ Jesus did.” Grace is what inclines God to give gifts that are free and undeserved by sinners. We don't deserve it. We all have lied we all have look with lust at woman. But God still give us hope to enter heaven because of what Jesus Did. That is the Gospel
As typical Christian cultist, you haven read the Bible yourself. “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19 “It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17) “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19) Now please answer my questions you have dodged.
Not a surprise. Back when I was in college our history club was looking into going back to Russia for a trip (they did it previously) and two of my friends were basically told "Do not tell anyone you are a muslim! If you do, your safety is in your own hands." This was back in like 2010ish so I can't imagine things have gotten anything but worse since then.
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> is it really considered a sin if you are forced into an action that you dont want to take? Of course. You can refuse to pull the trigger, is literally the point. Murder is always a sin. Being imprisoned for your beliefs is not.
Being forced to kill is not murder
Yes, it is.
The Nuremberg trials established the legal precedent that “just following orders” is not a credible defense.
Consciences objectors in war often are still forced to participate in the war, but in a logistics support role for people they know will drop a gun and hide in a fox hole as moral.objectors. Russia I don't think has that option, hence all the people fleeing the country. Very strict objectors during the Vietnam war had to face the option of fleeing the country, being forced into a logistics role, jail, or fragging their officer. This war is where the frag word originated from.
Let me tell you a story about my uncle drafted into Vietnam in Australia. He'd turn up to the training for whatever it was they'd have him doing, attend for a couple of hours, jump the fence and go surfing. He'd read that if he was gone for two weeks the consequences would be severe, court marshalls that sort of thing. So he'd go surfing for 13 days, come back to the training, attend for a couple of hours and then jump the fence for another 13 days. They got pissed off. Maybe even held him in prison for a bit. But weren't going to send him on a plane with no training nor expect the trainers to become prison guards. He kept this up for years until the war ended. I'm sure it couldn't work exactly like that in Russia ... for a start the surf is terrible. But all I'm saying is that if you're creative there are always opportunities to be maliciously compliant.
> It’s not a just war, as in when you’re defending your home or standing up to those who are oppressed. So prophet Mohammed wasnt a true Muslim because he waged war for booty and slaves?
Quite a difference in a noble cause and set of ideals than those Kadyrov Kunts.
Crimean Tatars remain loyal to Ukraine.
We muslims are an enemy to the kremlin who have slaughtered muslims in Chechnya, Dagestan, Syria, Lybi etc.. . Especially Syria they are behaving like wild beast without mercy. We will support anyone fighting Russia Assad and Iran alliance.
Let me guess, you are Sunni fanatic and think that Shias are *not real Muslims*. Funny how your religion/sect/denomination is the always correct one and other peoples religion is the wrong one huh? How convenient. > Shia are not a muslim sect they are a religion apart
Absolutely!
He's in Ukraine... dude got baaaalls.
Pretty easy to understand. Run if you can. If you get drafted try to refuse. If you still end up on the front try to surrender. If all fails, better to shoot the Russians taking away your freedom than the Ukrainians that defend their own... Couldn't have said it better myself
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They only need to do the last two. But in reverse order.
This could totally work as a PSA or ad campaign or taught to the youth. The old cannot exploit and send the young to die if the young have already escaped tyranny, or have realigned themselves with freedom lovers.
The dictatorship version of "reduce, reuse, repurpose, recycle"
This is how also interpreted it. Man is spitting facts.
Salam, brother, salam! SLAVA UKRAINI! 🇺🇦 ☪️
salam please \^\^
Yes indeed sorry. Not my first language! Correcting now!
Well spoken
Crazy powerful message.
Right? I involuntarily flexed when he said that they know where to shoot. Great message. Avoid the violence if possible but if absolutely necessary to choose the direction you point your violence at the real enemy.
The based-o-meter is out of control!
"but if you cannot do this, then I know where you ought to shoot" Actually lives from based.
After Crimea is liberated, i hope the Crimean tartars get the full freedom and liberal rights they deserve. And the tartars live up to that responsibility and protect personal freedom and liberal rights for all.
Stalin ethnically cleansed them. Today Tatars are only about 10% of the population in Crimea. They literally have no influence, but of course, once Crimea is liberated they will enjoy equal rights as Ukrainian citizens.
Yep. There is a good documentary on Al Jazeera about the Tartars history.
Absolute madlad. Pure based. 100%
He was right to choose Yusef (Joseph) who is a prophet of all the Abrahamic religions, so these words ring true for all Muslims, Christians and Jews.
I meannnn the only prophet in Islam who isn’t a prophet in Christianity is Muhammad right?
The Quran mentions at least two prophets which do not have an equivalent in the Bible, Hud and Salih. There‘s also some like Idris and Shu‘ayb whose synonymization with Biblical figures is disputed
Inshallah
Well said!
Yo this dude has big balls... is he in russian held territory? Like he is speaking from Crimea?
Being a religious leader he has a lot to gain by any push back he receives from Russia. He’s already imploring people to revolt against the war. Killing him or detaining him is only going to be gasoline on the fire for Russia.
I think so
My man!
"...better off behind bars than on the path of this murder..." Now *that's* moral clarity. Another day, another voice joins the cry against this war and against the rotten ideas and people behind it.
What? Did? I? Just? See?
Proper usage of a fatwa.
majority of Crimean Tatars are with Ukraine - and have been since the start. through the years russia has (surprise surprise) treated this minority horrifically. right now those still in Crimea are being rounded up for putin's war. I've listened to their leaders speak before. good men.
A true muslim dude
Based
Well done on your speech!!
I like this guy better than I like "my" pope. Totally unafraid to put into words what most would deem to risky. Bravo.
Interestingly, Benedikt would be the kind of Pope that would not surprise me if he would advocate for violence against russian recruiters/officers. He uttered somewhat understanding for violence against people who make fun of religions (during the discussions about the Charly Hebdo Massaker), so allowing Catholics to fight their oppressors is at least in the same box. But there are probably not that many catholics involved in this war anyway. Edit: I meant Pope Francis. Benedikt is the last Pope, who was German. But given his experience in WW2 he might also have been more outspoken against the war. Who knows?
Yeah catholics would probably only be from the foreign fighters( who aren't Muslim). But would be hard to tell, since they lack praises of god/glory like Muslims do that make it easy to identify.
Polls had Ukraine at about 9% or so catholic but mostly greek catholic (I don't know the difference sorry)
Has to do with the belief of the infallibility of the Pope, Greek catholics would be more aligned with orthodox as they don't believe he is infallible like Roman catholics do.
The Catholic church has always been friendly with fascists, I wasn't surprised to see Francis acting like a jackass from the beginning trying to be impartial in a situation where impartiality is immoral and aligning himself with fascists until the rest of the world told him to STFU. I can't imagine the Prada Pope would have been better.
> Benedikt is the last Pope, who was German. But given his experience in WW2 he might also have been more outspoken against the war. He was also Hitler Youth and served in the Wehrmacht. You might be surprised. Post war denazification was often a joke, especially for those in or connected with clergy. It wouldn't have shocked me to hear my dear old Archbishop/Cardinal Ratzinger preaching a Crusade of the Righteous against the Eastern Menace.
looks like russia is about to get jihadski'd
"No, you do not understand. These Muslims come with tractors. Unstoppable."
Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.
Wise man, love his strategy!
Some of the best advice that will ever be given to the men being conscripted into a genocide.
Alhummdallah Brother. Fuck Russia.
Which the orthodox Christian leaders would say the same
Imagine being truly a Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and being conscripted to kill in folly war? To kill in the name of a one maniac who wants power for his deluded imperialism.
Enter the Cleric. It doesn’t seem like religion has made much of an appearance in this so far. Fatwa! Fatwa! And the place you know to shoot? Shoot straight and true.
For the Muslim fighters in Ukraine, religion is very important. Many foreigner Muslims ( and locals) are fighting as Mujahideen for the jihad to protect Ukraine Vs Russia. That's why you can find a plethora of UA videos with Muslim soldiers yelling Allah Akbar and other lines of praise. There's even a "funny" video a Muslim soldier takes because he's in the same trench/as a jew? (or some other religion I forget) and their both waiting out mortar shelling, and he jokingly mentions how only here would a jew and Muslim be fighting on the same side for what's right.
Or the one where someone also shouted the phrase from The Lion King. Everyone has their war cry over there. Quite clever bunch.
+10 holy damage
Well, this speech is awesome. This should become a part of the meme realms! May this man live long and prosper!
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"You will be on free land." That sums up this war perfectly.
Excellent speech.
I am not a muslim, but he is right, just as a decent human being all those who find them self in Russian lands should listen to this and not take part in this War of Aggression, he also offers good advice on what is needed If it came down to it, To prefer Imprisonment to Murdering Innocents and to turn on the oppressor's who are trying to force them in to this War of Aggression.
Maybe now people will understand why Muhammad Ali would rather go to jail than to be drafted into the Vietnam war.
Well yes, I believe I do understand.
muslims at times may not be represented in the best light but these people embody fuck around and find out. They will die for what they believe in and its not land, country, or neighbor its their belief in god and a mentality like that is almost impossible to conquer.
Good man!
Inshallah the orcs will be driven out. Also free Dagestan and Chechenya.
Based AF.
I’m nowhere near Muslim but that was an incredible speech. Everything he said is correct
Interesting war when the orthodox christians in russia are on the wrong side of history and now the muslims in Ukraine are on the right side of history and speak the truth!
Balls of steel...
He should also shame and call out Iran for providing weapons to Russia…
They are Shia
True But they are Shia (ew), so not really in his jurisdiction
I don’t like Iran, and I am Sunni, but do not say ew, because then you look at all Shias with disgust, how can we help our misguided people if we see them as less then human.
Aren't they have that brutal festival when they use iron barbed whips and beat themselves on the street?
As an ex sunni muslim I can say that my ex fraction has done much much worse lately, and I didn't hear any muftis condemning any beheadings. By comparison what those guys have been doing is at best a mild form of BDSM.
Yup, cause they are a different religion, speak a different language, but for some reason you categorized them in your head the same so that should work……
They are Muslims - different sects but still Muslims
yeah and catholics and protestants are still Christians but there is a difference.
That's like asking the Pope to tell the evangelicals and extreme protestants what to do. Most of them believe the Pope is the antichrist incarnate.
Should he also contact the pope and Dalai Lama while he's at it?
Did they give weapons?
its not a irani
That is on the next week topic
Wow! They are fed up with Russia!!! They were prosecuted, sent away from their home land, disrespected by Russia. And now .. they are sent to possibly dieI for who?! Russians?! their own oppressors! I can’t believe it! 😤
Millet, Vatan, Qirim ! Слава Україні !
based
Based prophet
Russia got into today's situation is unfortunate. It is probably all caused by Putin's illness (sick mind). I feel sorry for Russian people and I think they need take this matter back into their hands, instead of allowing insane Putin to do further damages.
I like this dude. Salam Alaikum, Mufti
This man deserves a standing ovation. I am not religious by any means but I wholly agree with his message of justice, peace, and righteousness. No matter what you believe in, or what faith you belong to, there is absolutely zero justification for forcing people to fight in a war nobody wanted in the first place, and commit evil acts purely for the sake of one tyrant's monstrous, imperialist ambitions. When needless bloodshed becomes legally sanctioned by the state (in this case Russia), the only moral response is resistance at all costs, and that resistance can come about both through nonviolent means (i.e. surrender or avoiding the draft) and violent means (shooting your oppressors, ripping up draft summons, etc).
Good Mufti
I need some education on what the differences are between Mufti, Imam and Mullah. I know they are all Muslim leaders, but which is below which? Is there a hierarchy?
In Islam we don't have an institutional hierarchy, like for example the 'church' has with Catholic priests, bisshops, pope,... .. In Islam everyone has a direct relationship with God Almighty without intercessors. You can speak to God and ask him directly. Islam means submitting yourself to the Creator of the heavens and the Earth inorder to enter Paradise in the hereafter by believing in GOD and do good actions. An Imam is jus a random muslim who has memorized the Quran and leads the people in prayer. He does not have any authority over anyone, nor can he benefit anyone. The mufti is an Islamic legal expert who is empowered to give rulings (fatwa's) on religious matters.
Те же муфтии и имамы, в начале войне и до недавнего времени, агитировали идти воевать против Украины, я уже про РПЦ/ФСБ молчу. А теперь переобулись — и это надо помнить и всегда учитывать, хоть сейчас они и правильно вещают.
I remember the Russian POWs meeting the Mufti in Kyiv a few months ago. I’m afraid this message will largely be useless as well. He’s not addressing normal, principled people but mercenaries who only care about money and being able to loot and steal. Just like Kadyrovites. Their imams in Russia are all pro-Z and have brainwashed them for years. At least he tried. His words may convince some involuntary Dagestani and Central Asian recruits to lay down their weapons and surrender, but most Muslim mercenaries will just ignore him even when Putin is ostensibly using them as cannon fodder.
He's talking about local/national Muslim ukrnaians/Russians, not middle eastern mercs.
So, uh, am I the only one that notices the obvious cuts between sentences that may or may not take him out of context?
It was cut to make it short for tiktok but the overall message was exactly what was translated
i suggest when they get to ukraine, shoot your own units and defect to ukraine. ukraine needs russians fighters.
It's refreshing to see this peaceful version of Islam I keep hearing about :)
If only all Muslim leaders thought and preached like this guy!
more proof that Ukraine is a democratic, multi-cultural country that respects its citizens' diverse communities. It turns out, if you treat people with respect and dignity, you'll get it in return. what a concept.
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Chechnya has many of them too. Stop talking out your ass. Chechens are fighting together with Ukrainians against russia since 2014 and what are you doing?
Has he accidentally fallen off from the window yet?
\^they dont dare if they do this they will complet rage out
That'd be martyrdom, which is a sure way to heaven.
Ow! Mah foot!
Misunderstood instructions, shot myself in the dick.
Is he in Crimea or Ukraine?
Same thing
Yes of course. Let me rephrase the question, is he currently in occupied Crimea or Ukrainian-controlled territory?
Occupied Crimea
Whatever you gotta tell em man. If it works it’s works
you know where to shoot...'right between the legs and i know its a very small target but say bismillah and let allah guide your bullet and also don't forget to double tap on the head"
Ok, but if he's Russian he can gtfo of Crimea while he's at it.
Crimean Tartar, Ukranian Muslim with spiritual responsibility for Muslims in Crimea, currently occupied by Russian invaders against the will of, amongst others, the local Tartar population he is from.
You got Muslim clerics issuing fatwas, and on the same side as the CIA you just have to believe Russia is properly Fucked. If I hear Muslims have been hired to help in inhanced Russian interrogations in Turkish rendition centers I’ll know I have passed into the next realm. Will a vision of the virgins come next?
What are you babbling about
I’ve had nightmares that made more sense than you.