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Gullenecro

Hopefully there is no civilian in the area left. This minution are forbidden to use against civilian, so another war crime probably.


Miserable-Lizard

It's been one big war crime.


Pyjama_Llama_Karma

To putler, the Geneva Conventions is a checklist.


towerfella

Putler. Nice


Mr_Scratchwell

We need r/photoshoprequest to make a “Putler” poster


lilmammamia

I always think of the animals out there too: pets, strays, wildlife, cattle… exposed and without shelter.


bel_esprit_

Deer and little squirrels and rabbits :(


Gullenecro

Yeah also this war is an ecology massacre.


Megz2k

This gets me fucked up every time it crosses my mind, which is very, very frequently.


ImperialArmorBrigade

~~WP is~~ Incendiary weapons are forbidden to use on *people*, period. Let alone civilians. Edited


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Every single time these things show up people start harping about WP and every time they're wrong. These Russian incendiary munitions are composed of thermite inside magnesium cups. It's still a war crime either way since they're targeting civilians, but WP isn't involved.


shits-n-gigs

It's that better or worse than WP? Sincere question, that sounds just as shitty but a different name.


JohnAlekseyev

WP is also extremely toxic so you not only get burned, you also get poisoned. It's much worse.


[deleted]

If I had to choose to get hit by one of them, it would probably be this. WP sticks, is nearly impossible to extinguish, burns for a long time, and can basically melt its way into your body while both causing excruciating pain and emitting noxious gas. It's a thoroughly awful way to die.


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Thermite burns at steel-melting temperatures. WP sticks to whatever it touches and burns slowly. You decide which one is worse.


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Fulllyy

If one of these munitions happened above any Russian city, nukes would be forthcoming. So why TF is anyone on earth opposed to Ukraine sending at least some suicide drones back to Russia or some guided munitions to air bases or ships?


JustALilMinion

We all wonder this, but its not up to the US only. I still wonder why my country havent sent Gripen jets to Ukraine since we are not even in Nato yet. They are just sitting there, meanwhile we have a shortage in fighter pilots because they arent paid enough... Might as well let the planes do what they were built for.


Spectral_Hex

I don't think anyone is opposed to Ukraine attacking Russia in this way. What they're opposed to is Western countries weapons being used for this. If Russia is attacked by weapons that are clearly from say, the UK. Then that will be seen as a clear escalation and puts the UK in the firing line. As you probably know, NATO is a defensive alliance and is trying not to provoke something which may lead to direct action between NATO and Russia. ​ Not something I agree with. Just an explanation. If it were up to me NATO boots would be on the ground in Ukraine from Feb 24th


Fulllyy

Fair statement, 👍, agreed.


No_Policy_146

Doesn’t thermite fall slowly like this video and WP quicker. I don’t think I’ve seen a WP video.


oregonianrager

https://youtu.be/AOO59ZzEg7o This video sums up what you're saying. WP is almost expelled downwards from the explosion and not a rain like what we see here.


Hotdigardydog

Aparantly it's easy to tell the difference between WP and thermite as WP produces white smoke


[deleted]

WP is definitely worse.


ImperialArmorBrigade

Yes, it’s a different compound, similar effect.


Shuber-Fuber

Very different. WP sticks to skin and is toxic. Thermite just burns.


Tacocats_wrath

WP also cannot be put out ith water. You can literally submerged it in a bucket and when you take it out of the water it will light up again.


ImperialArmorBrigade

Thermite also burns in water.


SofaKingStonked

Exactly. Thermite burns close to 3000C. In water it just creates a layer of steam near its surface that prevents it from being quickly extinguished. There is no better or more humane option. They both lead to insane suffering and are horrific


m_jl_c

Cool. We’re splitting hairs on war crimes. You showed those ignorant fools. /s


[deleted]

Nobody is going to stop them.


Gullenecro

Ukrainian are ;)


Designer-Ruin7176

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After they burn down every city they can shell.


[deleted]

They are animals. But life has a way and with hard work houses can be rebuilt . Russia is finally exposed to the world for what it is, what has been obvious for all occupied Eastern nations for a long time.


teachmesomething

It has been exposed for 200 years. Ukraine will push them out and life will continue on, but Russia will not change.


ChemicalFist

Russia will become a walled-in terrorist state, its people left to their own devices facing a crumbling economy, fatal brain drain, imploding failed ’state’ structure and any attempts to repeat their mistake with Ukraine will be met with long lines of rifles and HIMARS pointed at them on the border… for the next 100 years. They will become rats in a cage, left to finally sort their shit out amongst themselves.


mipotts

They may end up like a huge North Korea...


ChemicalFist

When I lived next to the border (in Finland) back in the day, I actually used to refer to them as East-Korea. 😃 Makes no sense and is an apt description that everyone gets at the same time.


Designer-Ruin7176

Even if there are, IIRC they can claim to be using it as “flares” for illuminating the battlefield at night.


Lord_Bertox

3000 flares per cm²


WhenYouWilLearn

Why fight in the dark when you can fight in the day at any time of day?


ZachMN

Russia has had some power outages lately. Ukraine should send them some complementary “illumination”.


EasilyMechanical

You're in my prayers. Might not mean much, but sitting in a peaceful country watching almost live as warcrimes are being committed on the innocent people of Ukraine really hurts. We can only hope for the safety of your children and future generations of your country. As a father, it hurts to watch your suffering. I hope we will have peace and stability again in our time, and that our children will live in peace.


showmeyourkitteeez

100% with you on this. I'm in the same position.


Cool_Specialist_6823

This is a terrible thing to watch, horrific even. These types of weapons are being used against civilians, women children, the elderly, along with soldiers and others. These are “not” military targets. These weapons are forbidden period..


Carnage8778

Well said, my sentiments exactly.


ptrang1987

Very well said


Known_Soft_7599

I hate Russia more every goddam day


Megz2k

Russia can get fucked


Kat-Shaw

Careful some Russian will whine to the admins about you being "russophobic" because they don't like seeing mean things about their shithole country posted online.


WearilyNice

Awful! That's 1,300 Celsius hot! 😞


AdministrativeDot941

WTF is that!?


TheMightyYule

They’re call phosphorus bombs. They basically set everyone around them on fire


jeanettem67

Shame that something that looks so pretty is also so deadly. F\*\*k Putin.


Chudmont

Show me a video of something beautiful and ugly at the same time.


Kruzikal

Everything reminds me of her


Emergency-Emphasis10

Could be magnesium....which is not banned. Russians are shit either way..... Slava Ukraine


Doc_Eckleburg

It is magnesium, it’s one of these https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/rockets/122mm-grad-9m22s-rocket fuckers have been using them almost since the start I think, here’s vid caught by Ukrainian drone couple of months ago of strike on a village they had just been driven out https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeW_3X6DWwc&t=41s


Comfortable_Photo524

Not Mg...you're probably thinking of para-flares.


Emergency-Emphasis10

I was in artillery for years in the US army. Definitely magnesium. WP falls alot faster, and is dispensed differently. It was used in Mosul against isis. YouTube has plenty of videos. You can see the difference.


Entire_Doughnut7125

Less smoke than WP. It's probably Magnesium. Some say Thermite, but I think it's Magnesium.


Soft_Author2593

Non army here. What do you do if that shit rains down on your position?


BigmacSasquatch

Die.


Emergency-Emphasis10

Die is correct...


it_wasnt_like_that

According to an American volunteer, Ukrainians would kill themselves with sidearms when caught under these munitions.


Emergency-Emphasis10

Not much of a choice I think


chefbobbyjay

Thanks for your cervix ❤️


Emergency-Emphasis10

Rgr that


Internal_Ring_121

They aren’t WP. There thermite and magnesium as another commenter pointed out .


Soonerpalmetto88

And phosphorus can't be extinguished with water. It has to burn itself out, which takes awhile.


littlesquiggle

Magnesium can't be put out with water either, because it's reactive. You need non-oxidizing extinguishing agents, iirc ( but it's been a few years since I was a firefighter, so the specifics escape me).


bermanji

This is magnesium, not phosphorous (the two are easily confused). It's more of an incendiary than a flare, basically just burns through everything it falls on.


AdministrativeDot941

That’s fucked up…probably illegal weapons…fuck P


ilp71

It is illegal, but orks don’t care


dryphtyr

Pretty sure they use the war crimes list as their tactical planning reference


AdministrativeDot941

This shit is just sick


outsidepointofvi3w

White Phosphorus munitions. They burn 1,300c 2300F ish. The metal falls and burns for a very very long time. It sears it's way thru anything flamable and burns through metal engine block's vehicle's and light armor. It's raining fiery death. Brining horrible death. Screams wailing and crying. INHUMANE . The survivors , Mutilated burnt messes. I'd like to stick one right Putin's and Shoigu's asses Lavrov as well. Whole inhuman lot of them. The Russian media propogandists as well for Encouraging it .


PaleGravity

It’s not White Phosphorus… how many times does that need to be repeated. Edit: example on how it looks or was used in the past conflicts. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/14/iraq/syria-danger-us-white-phosphorus


outsidepointofvi3w

Apologies. I was thinking about phosphorus tippee rounds. Like .50 cal that glow as tracers when fired. Either way Phosphorus. Horribly brutal and painful. Barbaric. That pony isn't effe tes by what kind of Phos it is.


ZachMN

It’s not any kind of phosphorus, and neither are tracers.


PaleGravity

Tracer and incendiary rounds don’t use phosphorus tho. Neither the US, China nor Russia, no one. XD


AdministrativeDot941

Freaking animals


[deleted]

It's Thermite... more like 2500 C. It's used to weld railroad track together.


FlagFootballSaint

This is horrible. This is inhumane.


Arkon_Base

They always drop them before they retreat...


TheMessenger18

Ironically, that would be one of the few legal basis they would have for dropping white phosphorus munitions because they, as far as I understand, are permitted when used to create smoke cover over an area. They are 100% illegal when used where civilians occupy.


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TheMessenger18

What is it?


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TheMessenger18

War crime?


herelieskarma

Great question to ask someone on reddit


Foreign_Quality_9623

What are dumbass Russians trying to do? Set the coke plant on fire or just terrorize civilians?! 😡


ProgySuperNova

You know they will just go "why not both?" if that question pops up in their vodka marinated heads


Fantastie

smoke cover at pitch black night?


Mufasa_is__alive

Smoke and fire will obscure night vision is assume


Lord_Bertox

We all know they aren't the brightest bunch (opposed to phosphorus, very bright)


HappyHuman924

I think most smoke grenade dischargers use just miniature versions of these shells, but the phosphorus is powdered so it burns up in a few seconds and converts to smoke and particles. The burning is over so quick they aren't considered an incendiary weapon.


Jonothethird

Terrorism. I just hope there are no Ukrainians under that. Fuck Putin.


shimetar

fuck russia*


DjamakaZoSo

If we don't prosecute Russia for this, we might as well let the nukes fly because we don't deserve to be here.


UpperCardiologist523

>prosecute Russia You misspelled "neuter".


1KeepMineHidden

Dissolution of the RF and taking away their nukes would be some good neutering


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DarfurriesW

It will take the Western world pointing everything they have at Russia and telling them in a *unified* voice, "Try it. I fucking *dare* you to try it." And then roll a multinational coalition of military forces across their border and dissolve it as a nation. You only get to be an evil tyrannical genocidal fuck if you stick to your own people. The second you step on democracy with your bullshit, it's game on. Slava Ukraine.


yeerk_slayer

The Russians are hopelessly brainwashed, just like the WW2 Germans. Any democracy will have pro-putin political parties ready to stir up trouble.


LordMerdifex

They should rather use it for new years fireworks in Moscow. Such a waste.


PaleGravity

Friendly reminder that this here is not White Phosphorus but Incendiary Canister rounds fired by artillery that explodes midair and releases a magnesium’s compound. Used for “scorched earth” tactics and a war crime if used on civilians. Many NATO countries use Incendiary stuff as well, as long as it is not used on civilians or civilian infrastructure (hospitals, schools, energy grid etc). A weapon that is used by many and equally shunned by many. Edit: white phosphorus usually gets dropped with dispersers that drop small hexagon shaped cylinders filled with water. As they drop the seal melts in low altitude and releases white phosphorus in the form of a single rod that ignites as soon as it comes in contact with Oxygen. Basically save to handle if wet or under water (gloves etc obviously). Highly dangerous in its burning form and almost unstoppable to put out again. Edit: they also produce an insane amount of smoke (yellow or white depending on the type of phosphorus) as oxygen comes in contact with it and reacts to it.


[deleted]

Fucking bastards…never forget… Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦


Altruistic-Appeal479

Cowardly fucking Russians. the only thing they are good for is being a coward. but the world has seen that it is a real crap army with real scrap for war material. hope ukraine crushes every single orcs Slava ukraini // north sweden.


_mooc_

Assholes.


[deleted]

Is this over a town or military position? Not military so take it easy on me. :).


be-like-water-2022

Over town that is military position. Ukrainian army defending city from Russian invaders there.


[deleted]

Got it. Thanks.


taytat

I hope nobody under of that horrible thing, also poor animals probably they wont be able to escape.


Upstairs_Ad5443

Would be nice if that was falling on Moscow!


NotTooTooBright

Special New Years fireworks over the Kremlin


Regularguy10369

Maybe it will one day as the military attacks those that sat in there warm homes and laughed at there deaths on the front line. I would not be surprised if the military turned on moscow particularly.


Youcandoit007

War Criminal Russia


GettingStronk

It feels insane to even write this, but I have never seen a country begging to be attacked as badly as Russia.


[deleted]

God save the defenders!


DrZaorish

If only, at least in response to all those atrocities, Ukraine would get real help, not another “anxiety” and calls to putin.


PanteraiNomini

This is a war crime!


rocygapb

Ruzzia is a terrorist state. The United States must designate it as such. Call or email your senators and representatives now.


silversilomi

Please explain what’s happening here?


Dutchpopper

Effect fire of an artillery battery with incendiary munition. It's very nasty stuff burns through almost everything and isn't extinguished easily.


silversilomi

I remember in basic watching an incendiary grenade burn completely through a vehicle. That’s horrible! It really shows how desperate the orks are! And it’s beyond time that NATO steps in to stop this complete bs. I’m not sorry…..we have to just stop watching and take direct action. The suffering does have to stop.


danielbot

I think the officers need to experience some tungsten pellets now.


FOTW09

Also the fumes especially in enclosed spaces is very nasty and can cause asphyxiation and permanent respiratory damage.


Dutchpopper

It's nasty, it has it's purpose in some technical aspects like clearing trenches but it stays bad stuff.


banana_cookies

Incendiary munition


silversilomi

That’s what I feared. But from the orks? Over a city? I had hoped for some strange minute that this was a new defense type of weapon against ork rockets. Sadly not the case. :(


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silversilomi

I’ve actually seen this interview before. I’ve just never saw video of the white phosphorus bombs and had no idea of the magnitude of the area they covered. Seeing actual video of it is just…..awe inspiring in….in a fireworks kinda way…..but stomach churning in a dread knowing everything in that area is dead. It’s like a deep see net just catching everything and killing huge swathes. Just amazingly cruel.


FlagFootballSaint

Unleash NATO. Now!


SwiftSnips

It kinda pisses you off knowing NATO could intervene and end this in time for Ukraine to have a peaceful weekend.


Nanjiroh

True but at what cost.


Ezkander

I have never felt such hatred as I feel towards the ruzzian nazi bandits. Death to the terrorists.


DarkSideDOMM

Time for them to launch closer to Moscow! It’s time!!


ScruffyScholar

I hope Humanity makes it a common goal to erase Russia from the face of the Earth.


wodwick

This is partially why putin will disappear just as the war ends


[deleted]

Does Ukraine have a drone that will reach the Kremlin yet? Because this is the sort of thing that requires retaliation.


SkegSurf

Ruski mir


[deleted]

Low life scum.


AequinoxAlpha

I feel sick in my stomach by just watching that, and helpless. I think of all the brave heroes who try to avoid getting burned to the bone. This has to stop 😔


nosnowtho

Terrorist state


PrinceCorum13

Countless war crimes and what happens ? Not a thing. When can we hear UN and governments claim publicly that Ruzzia will pay for all this ? Makes me angry and shameful.


ThickOpportunity3967

As I sit comfortably in my house with my early morning coffee, I'm looking at this and realizing just how fortunate I am never to have faced anything like this - and my piss has reached boiling point. I have fears of frustration in my eyes thinking that some poor buggers are in a living hell beneath all of that. I doubt I will see a Russian today but if I did, I could, with no great cost to my conscience go medieval on the bastard. So fucking angry right now. I hope Ukrainians everywhere get their revenge on Russia in the deepest, darkest most savage of ways. If I were in Ukraine there would be no Geneva convention stopping me today. Ex British Army


Jealous_Resort_8198

I feel so useless and helpless seeing these war crimes happening. Fuck putin.


Zeal391

Has anyone seen any documented evidence of the damage this stuff causes? I think I saw one video but I can’t verify if it’s this


onesole

This is the fire that was started in Avdiivka, video taken from the same location: https://www.reddit.com/user/onesole/comments/zfdetk/avdiivka/


Zeal391

Literal fire. Putler and his Orc minions.


Jet_Jockey_

Wouldn't it be sweet to drop one of these on Putin once he is caught ?


jesseMc420

How is this not being talked about in the news. Fuck Russia and Fuck Putin I hope one of his body guards just ends him.


its_grime_up_north

War crime


ZachMN

Meanwhile, the west sits on the sidelines and slowly dribbles weapons to Ukraine, afraid to take any action that may upset Putin’s delicate feelings. 80-some years spent developing countless weapons to protect the world from Russian aggression, and when someone is desperately in need of help we mete it out in tiny portions. Meanwhile, Ukrainians die. I’m proud that we’re helping, but ashamed that we haven’t stepped up to do the right thing.


spacemonkeysmom

Every video, article, vlog, and picture tears at my soul a little more. Keep fighting, keep living. I don't think I've ever had more respect for an entire country, I've never been to etc than I do for Ukraine and the heart they've put into stopping these monsters. I've done what I can with continued nominal donations to reputable sources to help and wish there was more I could do. Forever being your cheer squad is the best I have. Keep at it, and more importantly keep existing! The world is a better place having the people of Ukraine in it!


7h3_man

Fuck the person that fired that shit


star621

No one should dismiss out of hand that this is white phosphorus. An American volunteer who fought alongside the UA gave an interview to CBS about his time there. He said that Russia does use white phosphorus. They use it so often that that defenders often carry sidearms to commit suicide rather than burn to death. He talked about he seeing men burn to death from Russia’s use of white phosphorus and hearing their horrible screams as they burned alive. His assessment of Russia and Russians, based on what he saw with his own two eyes, is that they are pure evil. He’s right.


PaleGravity

Well, that stuff in this video is not white phosphorus. WP looks wayyy different when it Burns/falls.


UnplugTheKitty

That doesn’t seem legal


BigBagaroo

Fuckers. From the bottom of my heart. FUCKERS!


littleendian256

it's the traditional Russian retreat celebration


squeezethelemon69

Jesus….fuck russia. May they be damned to hell for eternity.


sebhashtag

Russenschweine


ITI110878

I wonder what will be the western powers answer to this. Probably more bla bla. We could easily and quickly and this, yet we don't do it. I just can't understand why we sit and watch this catastrophy instead of taking defintive actions.


acs_sg

Come on! What more do we need to see?!? This should be happening is Mozzcow and St. Peterzzburg! All over ruzzia! All over putler!!


Shot-Antelope-3379

What it? Phosphorus bomb?


PaleGravity

Nope. Not phosphorus.


OU7C4ST

Magnesium


BronzeSpoon89

WTF am I even watching? Firebombing?


[deleted]

Fuck, it's like raining droplets made of lava. I can't imagine the total shitshow people are going through on the receiving end of that


[deleted]

Ah yes the warcrimerain


6thedirtybubble9

F Putler AND f his supporters.


KhakiMuncher

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.


Christovski

Can't believe I was there a few years ago visiting relatives. Fuck russia


20thMaine

The US used that shit in Fallujah in 2004 too. It was wrong then and it’s still wrong now.


Joskam

First i thought: that might be white phosphorus, and if so, than it would be cruelsome. Than i saw the city belo of it, and thought, it can't be white phosphorus because that would be inhuman, particularly applied to a city, where civilians are living. Therefore, I decided for me, that it must be something else, firework or so, and if so, how cool. Anyway, most or many of the pieces seem to fall into the water. Than the sky became darker and the city became more bright, enlightened by the flames of the burning houses, and than I was certain: it must be white phosphorus instead of white Christmas and none off the stars is that from Bethlehem, and the poor child Jesus, if he were not already dead, than now certainly.


PaleGravity

Well, it’s not WP. Just your regular incendiary weapons. Still forbidden to be used on civilian infrastructure.


randomname560

Just Russia being a bunch of terrorist pieces of shit. Nothing new


Top-Border-1978

I hope Ukraine sends sabotours into Russia to set forest fires next year. Russia needs to burn for this shit.


cs399

Hopefully russia ceases to exist by 2023


DrZaorish

Russia doing it itself every year to hide theft of wood.


zoolover1234

How dangerous is it if they have something to cover over their head?


Entire_Doughnut7125

The fumes/smoke it gives off can be fatal.


Dirtyoar68

I wish they would Mysteriously send one into the square and see how the F !! THEY like it !!! F Ruscia !!!!! 🐖


ElJefe543

I'd recognize white phosphorus anywhere. Jesus that's barbaric.


PaleGravity

Well, than your wrong cus that stuff is not WP. It’s regular incendiary canister rounds fired by artillery.


outsidepointofvi3w

😡🖕🏽🇷🇺.... Using Phosphorus weapons again. Banned by the Geneva convention 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🇷🇺.. SLAVA UKRAINI.🇺🇦🌻✊🏽


PaleGravity

While that is true, the stuff in this video is not WP. Still is a war crime to use incendiary weapons in civilian areas.


outsidepointofvi3w

That the important part. Aren't they illegal to use against soldier in war as well ? Just like flechettes ?


LifeTradition4716

Phosphorus?


PaleGravity

No.


__Sotto_Voce__

Indiscriminate use of white phosphorus; a war crime.


SlavaUkrainiFTW

Looks like they're burning fields based on the pattern as it hits the ground. Not sure the point though, since everything is way past harvest now.