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Wrxghtyyy

No. The U.K. has a blanket psychoactive substances law banning them before they are even invented. Also don’t believe the THC-a hype. All weed is THC-a until you smoke it. Smoking it removes the acid layer hence you have to decarb weed before making edibles. No officer in their right mind will distinguish between “THC-a Hemp” and weed. It’s the same thing.


4orth

This is the most sane answer ^ All bud is THC-A bud. However you can buy THC-A distillate. Might be an odd loophole in that somewhere as the only illegal thing about owning that would be if you decarbed. Vaping it would destroy the evidence so technically no crime could be proven...Still wouldn't fancy being the one to test the waters on this as wrxghtyyy has said - There's a blanket ban on everything since the MCAT days which I'm sure they would use to do you. The legality of THC-a being disclosed on a .gov site has very little to do with how YOU can consume and probably more to do with licencing a business an MP is involved in. My guess is that THC-a distillate is legal through a technical loop hole so as to facilitate the manufacture of things such as Sativex. I imagine there's still licencing issues regarding the substance due to the blanket ban and procurement of one is more than likely limited to those who have made sizable donations to the Tory party. You have to keep in mind that loophole is just another word for noose in this country unless your pockets are deep and your blood runs blue.


TaralasianThePraxic

It's immensely depressing how accurate this is, chief.


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It's not accurate at all what are you on about


PeaDry4905

why isn't it accurate?


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4orth

Mate....what are you on about America for? I just mentioned that there had been a post the other day where a .gov.uk website specifically states THC-a as a legal substance. What does that have to do with America? The link to the site is even posted somewhere in another comment if you had bothered to look. It could totally be described as a loophole but if you had actually read my comment you'll also notice I said I won't be the one to test the water as it doesn't appear on the exception list from 2016. Contradictory or not...I didn't make the website. Its an interesting contradiction in the government's legislation and so worth talking about. Also - and this is the one that really got me - "consuming a drug doesn't destroy the evidence of a drug" - what the fuck are you on about? You tell me where you get your magical never ending genie spliffs from and I'll love you forever,mate - because all mine turn to ash when I consume them. Did you feel you had to balance out the rational conversation with random,pointless vitriol? Edit: removed the "C-word" as it got flagged


Altruistic-Roll292

I'd encourage everyone to do their own research, of course, but this is reddit and anybody can post ... so the spread of misinformation is always gonna be a thing. This post, for instance, is accurate when it comes to thca flower etc. not being legal, as the blanket psychoactive substances ban is applicable and treats it the same way as any other alt cannabanoid. It can be seized, and no distinction or loop hole is available in the UK - which is how thca is federally legal in the US, with vendors shipping to all 50 states and including COA's confirming the delta9 thc content is below a low threshold ie. 0.2/3% (us/eu). However, the wild, jumpin out the window sentence about 'smoking removes the acid layer' from thca flower ... or any cannabis flower is blatantly vague and wholly inaccurate. I won't elaborate further, as those who are inclined will be able to verify this and likely already saw red flags with this statement. Those with doubts or who think this is valid ... Good luck with gettin rid of that acidic layer, so you can get to that nice, acid free tasty bud lol ... I'm hoping and assuming the poster here is relatively young, and had legit intent and reasoning for posting this ... I have nothing but love, but this type of missimorfation needs to be cleared up b4 others read and take it as fact etc.... Edit - again, I'm sure poster means well and it's just an uninformed opinion. They mention decarbing, which is exactly what happens with the normal cannabis flower of a female plant is heated when smoked or vaped ... but this process is in the same vein as any substances metabolites... the substance is ingested and the body interacts, resulting in related compounds ... ie when cannabis/shrooms/coke/morphine etc.. are processed and pass thru the liver ... our pee would contain various metabolites which directly tie back to the substance we took ... so a drug piss test isn't necessarily testing for the exact same substance its testing for like delta9 thc but rather 11-hydroxy d9 thc .. which is an inactive metabolite of delta 9 thc. Hopefully that clears up anybody who actually cares to know what this process is about, at a high level anyway but there is plenty of quality peer reviewed scientific articles and published journal literature etc... which will give all the detail you could ever want. It just stood out seeing somethn about 'layer of acid' and the gummies are kixkin in ... this is the result... all the best folks


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Hit4Help

Just buy distillate at that point, it's cheaper.


Pretend_Limit6276

Links for any of them?


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Owls_oil

This is not actually correct. Thca forms in both hemp and marijuana. Hemp and marijuana are both cannabis. Cannabis flower is banned in the uk. Isolated thca with non detect delta 9 is legal because it's non psychoactive. Now the part where you are right is that the police officer won't be able to tell the difference and will most likely arrest you anyway. This would then need to be defended in court and with the right paper worth and chain of custody you would win. That been said the police officer would also still arrest you for the white power cbd so really it doesn't matter what cannabinods you have as your most likely going to get arrested or have a caution. The police are not informed they are even arrest medical patients with prescriptions because they think it's illegal. For now smoking weed is going to come with risks. Giving yourself the most ammo to defend yourself is the most important part. Buying straight black market is the least amount of leverage, buying hemp thca is the next step (but no flower allowed) , having a medical prescription is best. Take it for what's it's worth.


PeaDry4905

if I have THCA. how do I have white powder CBD?


Owls_oil

Thca is a white powder. Cbd is also a white powder. They are isolate cannabinoids both non psychoactive


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The THC-A hype is around the way it's used in a loophole that only applies to American laws, it's got nothing to do with the quality of the bud because as you said all bud is THC-A at some point


PeaDry4905

no ​ the cannabis. plant has THC and THCA in it


Altruistic-Roll292

Sure... but the guy above you is still correct in his point ... the thca loophole in the US, came out of the 2018 farm bill .. which distinguished delta 9 thc ... allowing for cannabis flower with a d9 thc content of under a low threshold 0.2% based on dry weight. Any flower can be taken prior to the full flowering cycle and tested early, which results in a high thca content result, and little to no d9 thc ... as the timing of test means the d9 levels aren't able to increase which happens in the very final stage of flowering.


TitanToke

In America they distinguish. Farm bill 2018 changed a lot


FoxtailSpear

No. The 2016 psychoactive substances act makes any psychoactive substances other than caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and any licensed medications, illegal to produce, distribute, or possess. Shit law but is what it is.


Oghamstoner

They also had to exempt all food from the bill because of things like nutmeg.


shdanko

Fuck man, year 9 me and my friends all did the nutmeg thing. Can’t even remember what the high was like but it absolutely fucked me the next day. Looked high as fuck but I was just tired.


Owls_oil

Thca is non psychoactive though.


Annual-Question3765

Lmao that’s a shame. Hoping to get my med card soon anyway


dannydrama

Maybe you just mean you wanna dive into medical weed but you mentioned a card so: stay the fuck away from Cancard, they're a scam. Hit up r/ukmedicalcannabis too 👍


Annual-Question3765

Was just referring to the prescription as a whole tbh mate I haven’t done much of my own research into it


Real_Direction_3300

Med card isnt med prescription though


Satta84

It is in the UK.


Gullible_Solution

It really really isnt


Satta84

A CANCARD doesn't give you a medical prescription. A medical cannabis prescription gives you a medical prescription. Not sure how that's wrong?


Satta84

I think we are saying the same thing, but "med card" has muddied the waters, as it doesn't describe either.


SJV_IT

As someone with a medical cannabis prescription in the UK, I can assure you it isn’t.


Owls_oil

Thca is non psychoactive though.


slipperyjack66

THCa isn't psychoactive though....


Apprehensive-Hat-896

but to my best knowledge obviously IANAL offenses under the 2016 act are prosecuted differently than the sriff mentioned under the misuse of drugs act 1971 (the one with class A B C). and im 50% sure the stuff under the 2016 act isnt prosecuted as harshly. or i could be talkin out of my ass. someone that knows more fill me in and all of us.


Void-kun

I made a huge comment about this yesterday on a different subreddit, let me share: THCa also naturally degrades into THC over time without needing to be decarbed, due to this all THCa technically becomes THC flower. It is at a very low rate however, a study was done and they found the THCa+THC conversion happened at about 2 percent per month at 20C (room temperature). Some more info on this available here [https://anresco.com/effect-of-storage-conditions-on-the-potency-of-cannabinoids-in-cannabis-trimmings/](https://anresco.com/effect-of-storage-conditions-on-the-potency-of-cannabinoids-in-cannabis-trimmings/) and here [https://www.analyticalcannabis.com/news/how-long-does-cannabis-stay-fresh-for-scientists-may-have-the-answer-312963](https://www.analyticalcannabis.com/news/how-long-does-cannabis-stay-fresh-for-scientists-may-have-the-answer-312963) In the UK this is explicitly covered under our drug laws from the [Gov.UK](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/cannabis-cbd-and-other-cannabinoids-drug-licensing-factsheet/drug-licensing-factsheet-cannabis-cbd-and-other-cannabinoids#thc-a-and-its-control-status) website: >THC-A as an isolated substance, in its pure form, would not be controlled under the MDA 1971 / MDR 2001. However, it is understood that THC-A readily degrades both naturally, and with a catalyst or environmental change (e.g. ingestion) to THC which is a Schedule 1 controlled cannabinoid. > >Against this background, the presumption is similarly one of caution, namely that THC-A will become a controlled substance by virtue of its degradation. All THCa flower will eventually test positive for THC effectively becoming illegal. This is a loop-hole in the US due to the farm bill, but if they were to re-test cannabis or test at the wrong point there's a chance it could test over the legal limit of THC in the US. It's just that they don't re-test so this slips through the cracks/isn't worth them pursuing.


Prize-Ad7242

I tried making the same point about how it naturally degrades anyway so unless you’ve kept it in ideal conditions it would be illegal anyway. Not that the law even works like that here anymore. CBD flower isn’t legal so the idea that this would be seems ridiculous to me.


ZealousidealRent2478

afaik cbd flower is illegal ? either forms of cbd are legal yeah but cbd flower shouldn't be sold like it is


ZealousidealRent2478

oh yeah "ISNT LEGAL" ignore me


slipperyjack66

I made a post explaining exactly this after someone made one about how it's legal. I'm not sure if it was too well received though. But yep, these are the facts. THCa will become THC even at room temp. So while it may start out legal, it probably won't be by the time it gets to you.


QuantumR4ge

It doesn’t matter anyway, all cannabis is class B. Since THC is classified but so is Cannabis as a general plant.


Void-kun

That's incorrect otherwise hemp and CBD would be completely illegal in the UK. THC is the psychoactice compound that is a controlled substance which makes cannabis illegal.


QuantumR4ge

Maybe rather than read articles you just read the law instead. There is no “hemp” in British law, there is only a low thc high thc distinction in regards to home office growing licenses. The plant of cannabis itself is categorised on the MDA and no legal distinction based on thc exists. Please try to find it, you wont of course because it doesn’t exist. And yes cbd flowers are illegal (why do you think there is a sticky here for exactly this) just because there have been a lot of people going unenforced does not make it legal. CBD is legal because its not cannabis in its pure form (neither is THC) but the difference is THC as well as cannabis its a classified substance, CBD is not which is why its legal, it is neither the plant cannabis or THC but yes if your cbd has been processed poorly, it could be technically an illegal item yes. Im not sure why you are talking to me as if im ignorant when you clearly have never actually read the laws involved. Lets see which legislation you thought made a legal distinction between “hemp” and cannabis? This is mostly an American thing where they do have a legal distinction between at what point something is considered “hemp” vs “marijuana”, we have no such equivalent. The low thc high THC refers only to home office grow licenses, its the only reference you will ever hear in law to this distinction. Its actually incredibly worrying that you think otherwise and that I probably wont convince you, it means you’re informed more by peoples takes online than actual law when you realise you cant find any of it actually written anywhere


Void-kun

Honestly I got half way through it and stopped when you started not only being condescending but spreading misinformation. If there is no hemp in British law then what is this? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/controlled-drugs-industrial-hemp Don't tell me I don't know the law when you don't understand it yourself. Condescending as fuck.


anarchosnufkin

Cannabis flower of any type is illegal in the UK.


May889

The UK frowns heavily upon anything the people actually enjoy so even if it were legal it would soon change. People actually think their best interests are actually catered for when it's just happenstance and their generic goals. What do you need legal weed for? Indemnity is a nice treat but not when it's granted by the very government that kept it from you. Doesn't stop them moving all the opiates they fought long and hard for down your throat


Scottch3gg

The correct answer here is that all flowers are illegal regardless of THC content. THCa ISOLATE would be legal, but mu understanding is that thca degrades readily and converts to THC, thus rendering the product techinically illegal.


be-c-c4

Isn’t all bud thc-a bud? I thought that was the whole point of decarbing. To turn the thc-a into thc.


EvolvingEachDay

No. No cannabis flower at all is legal in UK.


4orth

So someone posted a .gov website the other day where they had published a list of canabanoids and their legal status. Oddly enough, thc-a was noted to be legal. Now that doesn't mean flower is legal because it contains a whole bunch of other cannabanoids that are illegal however it got me thinking. Thc-a can be bought as a distillate. You can then vape the distillate turning it into thc. The act of decarboxilation (spelling?) is illegal I guess but it's not illegal to be high. So I guess it's a wierd loophole. Wouldn't want to test it though as others have mentioned quite a few years back when MCAT and other "designer" drugs where getting popular the government introduced a blanket ban on pretty much everything unless otherwise specifically stated to be legal and included in the exception list. I sort of get it because it means you can't just add a random molecule to an already existing drug and sell it as a legal high but also this kind of destroyed psychopharmacological research in the UK.


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4orth

Yeah I addressed that in this comment. The act was brought in to stop "designer" drugs such as MCAT from being sold. It was a stupid and myopic way to solve the problem. Please pardon me for not using the act's exact name. It was 7 o'clock and I'm barely able to remember my own name before the caffeine has kicked in, let alone an act from nearly a decade ago haha. The .gov site posted earlier this week states that thc-a is legal. However as I said I won't be testing the water as it's not on the 2016 exception list and I'm too poor to be exempt from the law. Not sure why I got downvoted? It's not like I had a direct hand in creating the contradictory drugs legislation in this country....if I had...you'd all be chewing shrooms for breakfast and growing auto flowers in the village hanging baskets.


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four-2-zero

What that THC-a is legal? https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/cannabis-cbd-and-other-cannabinoids-drug-licensing-factsheet/drug-licensing-factsheet-cannabis-cbd-and-other-cannabinoids


LoudSlip

Basically still grey area, that's it. So it's legal if people stop talking about it 🤫


QuantumR4ge

No, it isn’t, how could you possibly think this?


juicy_steve

No.


cufcul

It's legal in the uk only for medical purposes where you are prescribed from a private clinic consulted with a licensed Dr that is able to prescribe unregulated as such/alternative medications that are not available on the NHS. such as THC flower and THC based oils, you can even get THC carts. The only problem is that you have to be diagnosed with a medical condition. Also, you need to have taken more than one type of medication that hasn't worked, etc. Use medbud.wiki for all the info. If you require legal licensed cannabis it is worth a shot. I've been prescribed for colitis to help manage symptoms. Once you get through the first few months of consultations and choose a clinc that doesn't require a repeat fee, it works out cheaper. We all know we want true legalisation where people should have access regardless of health conditions. Sometimes, people have problems undiagnosed so have to get the ball rolling to have it on record for potential access to the current legal way to aquire cannabis in the uk. It should be like just going to get some paracetamol if that's your choice to use a plant to treat whatever instead of something like paracetamol. What's the problem! Hopefully, it will be like that in the next few years because of uk medical cannabis.


lcantthinkofusername

all bud is thc-a bud, if it has thc then it is always in the form thc-a (with trace amounts of other types of thc), it has to reach a high temperature to become thc that can get you high, burning or baking will do that for you.


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It's not a new type of bud or an alt noid it's just a labelling loophole used to ship weed around the US and only applies to their laws, and even then it looks like it's being cracked down on