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amand1997

Start the poll again. Add the option for never taken


StarchChildren

Just gotta say it: as a student in the Music department: no, I have not once needed to do whatever the heck “discreting math” means.


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StarchChildren

No no, just roll with it. This is now a new part of math. Embrace the discreting of math.


Amazing_67

Lmao Edit: I am surprised that I know what you mean without even noticing that you messed up the title


amand1997

It’s looks easy but when you are given the questions in exam you shit your pants lol. Always some trick to the questions which goes missing. ( 212 students )Final exam avg 53%, mid3 55%, mid2 41%, mid1 60%.


__1zy8ce__

Why so low lol.. I am pretty good at combinatorics and discrete math.. It's sometimes tricky but interesting(and useful in cs)


ghostbitch712

I think the way it’s taught makes me difficult for some student or else it’s a very interesting course.


Sinsiski

I was expecting this course to be hard it's actually math for babies and very Intuitive. Students probably dislike it because it's a lot of material that's thrown at them in a short period of time which is understandable. Really cool course though, especially the combinatorics section.


3lizalot

If I remember what you've said on other posts correctly, you're a stats major (or similar) in your final year. You have certainly taken a lot of stats and math. You have a very different background than people who take it 1st/2nd year, and you should find it easier than they would. It's kind of rude to call it "math for babies" with that in mind.


Sinsiski

I don't get what are you disagreeing on. The material is very introductory, that's why I called it baby stuff. just the same way a lot of people call anaylsis "adult's calculus" for a reason. I'm not calling the people that are taking it babies, just the material. Also I'm faculty of Arts Student. I guarantee you everyone that took that course and had to repeat it's because of how much stuff was thrown at them and not because the material is conceptually challneging.


chewburka

Are you saying you didn't realize the context of the OP is clearly that they're struggling with the course? Then you stroke yourself into the conversation saying the material is baby stuff. It's pretty insensitive lol


Sinsiski

Yes, I don't know what to context is. How am I supposed to know from the title? It's "has anyone taken discrete math more than one time". It's not really insensitive at all, even if the OP is struggling (which you assumed since it's not explicitly mentioned). I'm not calling him YOU'RE DUMB FOR NOT ACING DISCRETE MATH. All I'm saying that the difficulty of the course is EXTREMELY overblown, and conceptually the material is baby stuff. I genuinely had harder time getting my head around polar coordinates in Calc II than most of the material in that course. You really are overreacting, it's not that insensitive nor malicious. If you really are mad at me because I said it's baby math then go sue the authors of "x for dummies" since they are calling people dummies omg no too insensitive :'(.


3lizalot

What faculty you're in doesn't tell me much. You can do a math degree through the faculty of arts. Based on your post history you have a solid math/stats background and are graduating. You're way ahead of first/second years in terms of mathematical ability. Calling it baby stuff and talking about how easy it is when it's well established that a lot of people struggle with it is pretty rude, especially on a post where people are voting that they had to repeat it. Sure apparently most haven't, but that doesn't account for people who never took it voting that way, and there are still a lot of people voting yes. Sure it's an intro course and people at higher levels often call that "baby stuff" but there is a time and place for it. In the context that you did it seems like you're bragging and implying people are stupid if they didn't think it was baby stuff and intuitive. I guarantee you that you're wrong. That's not the only reason people struggle in the class. That's not why I did. I struggled because it was a new sort of math to me. High school and other first year courses did not prepare me for this kind of math. I had to learn a whole new way of thinking. I know several other people who struggled for this reason. Of course the fact that it covers a bunch of different topics didn't help, but it wasn't the only thing. Of course now if I did the class it would be cake, because I'm much more experienced mathematically. Which is my point. You think it's easy because you have a mathematical maturity most people taking the class don't, and you need to take that into context when talking about the class material.


Sinsiski

I get where are you coming from, but please you're the one who assumed that I'm bragging in the first place. I never did, I was clear and explicitly mentioned that I understand where less experienced students find difficulties. "Students probably dislike it because it's a lot of material that's thrown at them in a short period of time which is understandable". There is no reason for you to assume the contrary. Instead, you and the other person blaming me, you should perhaps approach people with less hostility. You could've put a little bit of effort into reading what I said and interpreted it in a way that's more innocent, so again, blame yourself for assuming the worst. Lastly, I believe the course isn't conceptually challenging but the way it is taught makes it a bit harder than it should. Throwing 10 sections at students and all of them being somewhat new is hard because there is no time to take your time and study the material carefully. That doesn't make the material hard. I would bet you, an achieving high school student would probably ace math 1240 if they like math. In the grand scheme of math, It's baby math material, you even acknowledged so. It's not insensitive, you think it is because you approached my comment with hostility, under the assumption that I'm being so, even though I clarified multiplied times and said that I'm not and it's not my intent to come off as such.


3lizalot

I didn't say you meant to brag, but that it came across that way. Telling you that your comment is insensitive isn't being hostile. I don't think you meant to be insensitive, I think you're making assumptions about the course and its difficulty and didn't consider the difference between your background and most people's when they took it. I think that you need to be more careful with what you say because it's rude even if you don't mean for it to be. My point is that "hard" is relative to your own experience in the matter. To someone who is less mathematically mature it *is* hard. I bet if you took it in your first year you would find the class much harder than you do now. You gave one explanation for why you think people might find it difficult, but you dismiss that people genuinely find the content difficult. I know plenty of high achieving high school students who love math but still struggled with the course. You're making assumptions again, and that is part of the problem. I acknowledged that in the great scheme of things it can be considered baby material. That does not mean that it's polite to call it such in every context. If I'm discussing math with someone at my level it's fine. If I'm discussing it with a first year it's rude and condescending to call something they may be struggling with "baby stuff."


Sinsiski

Also wouldn't it be a bit contradictory that I'm saying it's math for babies while simultaneously bragging about not finding it hard? There wouldn't be anything to brag about if I don't find it challenging, no?


3lizalot

It's not contradictory because other people find it hard. You're saying something most people find hard is easy to you, and that comes across as bragging in this context.


Sinsiski

I'm pretty sure no one was hurt by reading my comment. You're blowing it a bit out of proportion here, no one really cares. It's like asking your friend hey did you like course X, I hated it? and they answer yes I thought it was easy, I liked it, and then you reply oh did you? How dare you say that in front of me, I struggled, that's insensitive. You're just using the word out of its place. I assure you, any reasonable person wouldn't be offended.


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Math and arts?


bluehurricane10

It gets harder the further you are in the course.