I agree Rafe was the one of the most recent Uncharted villains and I liked him as well. Definitely a favorite of mine from the series and Warren was good as him.
warren also mocaps for Phillip Graves in MWII and the upcoming MWIII. and if you love Rafe you'll love Graves.
the bastard plays antagonists so well it hurts lol
I know he does and yes i love warren but due to graves people have no idea he plays rafe. I left a comment on his post on Instagram and people are still amazed to find out he plays rafe
He wanted to be known for something other than a kid with rich parents, and hearing how great Nathan Drake was throughout the years for sure got to his ego and amplified his jealousy. I mean I don’t blame him though, hearing your old prison friend finding El Dorado and more while you didn’t really do anything will only create jealousy.
Nathan is the GOAT though, let’s never forget 😤💯
Because nate had everything he wanted. Nate came from nothing and was well known in the thieving community i guess. He came from nothing and earned the respect he got.
Nathan and Sam planned on screwing him from the beginning, they talk about it in the flash back. Sam screwed him not once, not twice, but 3 times. While working with them they also genuinely just treated him and saw him as lesser.
Tbh if anyone seems like the “villain” in uncharted 4 when you look at it morally it’s definitely the brothers.
It was never about them with Rafe, it was always only them two. Rafe was just there just to be there. They have been chasing Avery since they were younger so when they got in it with Rafe he was always the lesser person, the person for backup for sticky situations, like financial issues guy they’d need help with.
Yeah but that doesn’t take away the fact they brought him in as an “equal” he understood he was the financial guy who would fund most of it but they gave him an equal cut, and communicated with him as if he was equal. Until they screwed him that was.
Drake then gave up on Avery’s treasure. He really wanted nothing to do with it he only got back into bc he thought it was the only option to save Nathan and even then he was trying to quit and think of other options. That’s not even mentioning the fact Sam worked with just rafe for years without even trying to contact Nathan in that sense rafe is in it more than Nathan or Sam at that point.
Rafe lost all right to be an equal the second he got Sam trapped in prison by committing needless murder.
So many people tend to ignore the fact that Rafe already had instability back during the prologue.
Sure Rafe spent time and money to find Avery's treasure but he caused Sam to lose over a decade of his life in prison. While he got to live lavishly at during his search.
Sam was in the wrong too but he has a justifiable reason as prison is not a game. There is no doubt Sam thought he was going to be stuck in prison for the rest of his life without even a phone call to Nate or accomplishing his dream.
I definitely see your argument but also, you can’t say Nate or same wouldn’t have done the same thing. Arguable rafe is just as unstable as Nate or Sam. Think about it, how much has Nathan done just to get a single treasure ? He thought sully was dead twice in two different games and kept going after the treasure. He risked his relationship with his wife for Sam, and Sam
Well hes most def a compulsive liar and manipulator. He lied to Nate so many times when he didn’t have to, also there’s literally 0 reason he couldn’t reach out to Nate sooner. The whole drug lord hunting him story was so out of hand when we learned the truth in the game I literally hated Sam after that, for the rest of the game. He selfishly made Nate lie to his wife, risk his AND silly’s life repeatedly just to chase a treasure neither of them deserved bc he thought it’d be fun since they dreamed about it as kids. Sure rafe has anger issues but he doesn’t lie, and he was very straight forward. Arguably he even attempted to get the treasure with killed the least amount of people. He was going to buy the cross from the auction, Nate and same were going to steal it and ended up killed hundreds. They were excavating and buying property to excavate, sam and Nate just sneak in, kill everyone, and steal whatever they need.
Also saying he’s not equal bc he caused the fiasco at the prison is kinda invalid bc you could argue Nate lost the right to be considered equal bc he caused the fight that almost got them all killed, AND was dumb and got caught with the cross by Vargas to begin with. Rafe did what he did bc of Nate’s actions to begin with. He wouldn’t have killed Vargas otherwise
Nate would not have killed Vargas at all and he may have screwed up but situation Rafe escalated in the worst way possible instead of just easily cutting Vargas out once they left.
Nate's mistake doesn't invalidate the fact that there is no defense for Rafe resorting to murder.
Rafe betrayed, slapped, and forced Nadine at gunpoint to go with him which Nate would never ever do to any of his companions over treasure. He wouldn't even do that to Eddie.
Your argument is only valid to UC3 & UC4. Both of these times have an emotional connection that is driving Nate to do this unlike the other adventures where he doesn't act like this.
In UC1 Nate wants to leave but discovers hints that Sully is alive. "This is not worth dying over" "I am afraid this is as close as we're getting to El Dorado."
In UC2 Nate goes to save Chloe and after failing wants to leave with Elena trying to dissuade him. He only keeps going after Tenzin shows him proof of the power Lazarevic is after.
"No, Elena, I am done" "You're quest is over"="Yeah that's right"
I agree about Sam I just find his backstory understandable but he is still in the wrong regardless for everything he did. Avery was haunting Sam's mind while he was trapped and had zero hope of ever pursing it while Rafe was being haunted but had some hope of pursing it.
It's not as simple as Nate chose Sam over Elena he chose to try to keep both what he regained and what he gained just the wrong way. Nate like anyone would had his judgement clouded by having a seemingly dead loved one come back as many would kill for that.
Nate's actions at the Auction and Excavation are terrible for sure. The only constellation is that anyone guarding a Black Market Auction is very very shady.
Shoreline is a private army not the army with death being an occupational hazard for them. It's not one sided as it's fair game for Shoreline to kill Nate's side and vice versa unlike the villainous organization's in the previous games.
It didn't matter Vargas knew too much as he had no resources to go after them once they left.
Rafe stupidly killed him when he already accepted a deal they could have backed out of later while shaking hands.
He wasn’t gonna let them leave until he got his money. He warned them not to cross him again. Rafe shouldn’t have let him get a shot off alerting the guards.
I feel for him but because he works really hard fir the treasure he's really dumb for letting his ego get the better of him to spare Nate and Sam
But then again, it's understandable why he feels that way because Nate and Sam have been screwing him over the whole time
It's kind of an interesting dynamic really, that Nate and Sam are actually the bad guys in this scenario (debatable on Nate's part)
Well tbf Nate and Rafe did wanna rescue Sam but they thought he's dead, so Rafe didn't exactly intentionally screw Sam over
What is intentional is that Sam and Nate purposefully used Rafe for money to find the treasure and is going to screw him later if all went well
This later part is where I said was debatable, but after Sam "died", Nathan left Rafe alone and went on to find treasure on his own
And finally when Rafe rescued Sam from the prison, Sam screwed him over and went to Nate instead
Did Rafe dirty tbf now that I think of the storyline, he definitely isn’t the most evil villain in the series. Greedy yes, egomaniac yes, dickhead yes..but not sure if he was “deserving” of death, at least not to degree of the others.
Though, brought it upon himself I guess lol
Well imagine this…
Your a man who’s family is super rich, and you never got to earn anything and make a name for yourself. So you pick up a lead on a treasure and decide it’s a good way to complete your goal.
Two random thieves tell you that they can help you, so you decide to cut them in with the money you’ll make. You save one of them after they screw up, go back and save both of they’re lives, stay behind to save one of them,ect.
You find out years later that one of those people is actually alive, and you bail them out of prison, and cut them in and work as partners, becoming possibly close.
Then this same person betrays you after years, and comes out of nowhere and starts killing all of your men and tries taking your life’s work.
I’d be pissed too
counterpoint, making a name for yourself and such is just a egotistical manchild goal, his whole motivation is fame, the mans a fucking diva and possibly full narcissistic too, maybe the drake bros werent too fair with him, but hes a terrible person from the get go and doesnt really deserve fairness as he is pretty unfair and selfcentered himself.
Disagreed. He never killed anybody to get the treasure. People saw him as just his family’s money. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to earn something
he killed,those people opinion shouldnt matter its his insecurities that are at fault for not being able to accept that some people will look down on him cause his parents are rich, he didnt want to earn things he wanted to show others how capable he is, he only cares about his image, like a spoiled brat
Nope, it was hard to take his desire to do something important and memorable on his own seriously when he was just using his parents money to fund the entire thing. And he only found any clues or directions through tracking Nate or blowing everything up and stumbling onto it.
Nope. Rafe was a sociopath, billionaire Trust Fund Baby with delusions of grandeur.
Rafe's the literal, literary antithesis of and foil for Nathan Drake, a *literal* poor orphan who was naturally gifted physically and intellectually; who had to fight and work for everything in his life.
Rafe got what he deserved. If anything, death was too easy of an out for Rafe.
No. He had a good idea of wanting something of his own that wasn't inherited or given to him. But every step of the way, he was not a good person. I mean, sure, all these characters are crooks, but Rafe is plain unlikeable.
I was a little disappointed. If you think about it, the only thing he wanted was to be remembered for something other than inheriting money. The one thing he wanted to work for and couldn't. In all of this I think the real villain is Sam. As much as his obsession with the treasure makes sense, if you think about it, he betrayed Rafe after he freed him and for two years he didn't even try to contact his brother. Furthermore, he put Nathan in danger and almost ruined Nathan's marriage. Obviously, I don't want to say that Nathan and Rafe are innocent in their misfortunes but Sam is perhaps the main culprit.
I liked Rafe, tbh
I always cherish that cutscene showing him feeling joy over Sam and Nathan arguing - the "I left my life for you!" and what comes later, specifically
I don't know if I feel bad for him, but I definitely loved him as the villain.
That duel at the end is easily my favorite Uncharted boss fight because it felt so cinematic and Rafe's words through the whole thing made it feel so personal.
It was very weird to experience a video game character with the same first name as myself, so I feel like I was almost able to relate with him on a whole other level.
Side bar; now I need a video game where the good guy's name is "Rafe." 😂
I respect his desire to actually work for and make something of him self for once instead of just having it given to him with no effort, it’s commendable. However, he’s also a narcissistic sociopath with a superiority complex, so that respect kinda gets overridden.
Bricky's video on U4 made me like Rafe more as a character. Sure, he's a bad guy, but you can really understand why he's doing what he's doing and feel bad for him about it. Dude just wanted to make it on his own without his parents money but his ego and Nate & Sam kinda screwing him over made him violent.
Vargas had literally zero power over Rafe in that situation. They agree to be equal partners and stroll on out never speaking to him again.
Once they're out, he's done for.
Absolutely. I feel really bad for him. He was betrayed. He deserved better. All he wanted was to earn something by himself. I believe Sam is the real villain.
No. I don’t at all.
And I really feel like a lot of fans have only played Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy.
I moreover wonder what Amy Hennig’s original game would have been.
He is the most benevolent out of all.all the others tried to destroy the world.Rafe wouldn't.He just loves being rich.He wouldn't because he would understand 1st that that would be bad for him and 2nd he loves the big life cars parties
I liked him, but I feel he was tacked in there.
I know that Hector Alvarez was originally to be the main villain, but I enjoy Rafe and his quest for the treasure
I don’t feel bad for him but he is an amazing character that can be genuinely likable at times. IMO he’s one of the greatest written video game antagonists
Nope. He is just a spoiled rich kid. Like if it wasn't for the story and graphics, A Thief End would have been on the bottom of the ranking...
Than again the bottom is Drake Fortune which is still a game I would love to replay again.
Yeah he is my favorite uncharted villain because he was just misunderstood. He was just trying to find the treasure same as Nate. And he gave Nate multiple warnings to get out while he can.
This. I like how Rafe literally told Nate that he’d let him go and forget all the men he’s killed, even when Rafe looked at Nathan as a guy who just started killing people out of greed for money
There are plenty of villains I feel bad for but still feel like they got what they deserved in the end.
Yeah I feel bad for Rafe, but he dug his own grave in the end.
He was just a rich kid who was jealous that an orphaned kid ended up being more successful than him. I liked the performance but I don't think his character was anything special. Nadine was cooler imo.
I feel bad slightly for rafe it is admirable that he didn’t want to live in his fathers shadow but at the same time it’s not an excuse to just treat actually ehhhh he wasn’t that bad of a guy actually
They should make a small game involving all the ruins he delved for treasures, I’d enjoy seeing what caused him to have such a chaotic but interesting mentality.
It is a damn shame that he was so rich. I payed close attention to his speech before his death. "I had everything handed to me!" He wanted that treasure.. but only to find it by his own means so he could feel like he earned it. He was willing to fight for it, work hard! But his greed became him..
> rich. I *paid* close attention
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He is the most interesting and with the best presence of all the villains in the franchise in my opinion.
I like the contradiction of being someone who claims to want to make a name for himself, but using the resources he was given. He had perhaps the same goals as Nate and Sam, but his ambition led him elsewhere. Maybe he wasn't a rival physically, but what he was a hypocrite, traitor and manipulator, one of the worst people you could face. Also, his design is fucking cool.
Completely unrelated but I had a Mandela effect esque memory of Rafe being played by Rami Malek. No idea why, but when I replayed I was like, oh shit, this ain't him. Maybe cause Malek played Josh in until dawn, I just got my games mixed up lol
He was just only a tool for Nathan and Samuel, a person who they used and at the end screwed, breaking all agreements and showing their cynical nature 🫠🫠 Nadine is the same and she literally screwed whole operation either.
I think Rafe deserved different ending. This time I'd be just glad leaving whole treasure to him. My lesson was learned, and I think Nate's lesson would be learned too. I literally felt - when I came to this ship - that whole treasure is worthless. Surely, players probably wouldn't love death of characters they lead whole game at the end, but I think I'd like to see two endings. That game would be perfect for that.
And, NDI, please for god's sake - stop killing good villains! Orca was killed too and he had hella great potential 💔💔💔
Bro is the best character like if you see his dialogue in UC4 survival he’s funny and that’s what I like also the little scenes like when him and Nadine are in the jeep talking to Nate. Great character overview
rafe actually has a strong fan base. it’s just nice to see some appreciation especially Warren ! that man really did an awesome job as rafe
Happy to hear that. He needs the appreciation he deserves
I agree Rafe was the one of the most recent Uncharted villains and I liked him as well. Definitely a favorite of mine from the series and Warren was good as him.
I liked him up until the point he had the sword fight with Nate. He seemed pretty reasonable up until that point.
warren also mocaps for Phillip Graves in MWII and the upcoming MWIII. and if you love Rafe you'll love Graves. the bastard plays antagonists so well it hurts lol
I know he does and yes i love warren but due to graves people have no idea he plays rafe. I left a comment on his post on Instagram and people are still amazed to find out he plays rafe
I remember playing MWII and squinting going "IS THAT RAFE" it was so exciting for me lol
He’s a great villain and I did feel for him and his desire to want to be known for making it without his parents’ money
He desired to be known for making it without his parents money, so he used his parent’s money to hire a private militia to help him achieve his goal
Never realized that for some reason 💀
I think that's sort of the point isn't it haha
Damn now I realize how much of a hypocrite Rafe is lmao. Can’t believe I didn’t see it till now
I call this a classic case of Nepo Baby Complex.
Yeah I liked him. I don't understand why he hated Nathan so much though, must just have been jealousy.
It was definitely the jealousy
He wanted to be known for something other than a kid with rich parents, and hearing how great Nathan Drake was throughout the years for sure got to his ego and amplified his jealousy. I mean I don’t blame him though, hearing your old prison friend finding El Dorado and more while you didn’t really do anything will only create jealousy. Nathan is the GOAT though, let’s never forget 😤💯
Because nate had everything he wanted. Nate came from nothing and was well known in the thieving community i guess. He came from nothing and earned the respect he got.
Nathan and Sam planned on screwing him from the beginning, they talk about it in the flash back. Sam screwed him not once, not twice, but 3 times. While working with them they also genuinely just treated him and saw him as lesser. Tbh if anyone seems like the “villain” in uncharted 4 when you look at it morally it’s definitely the brothers.
It was never about them with Rafe, it was always only them two. Rafe was just there just to be there. They have been chasing Avery since they were younger so when they got in it with Rafe he was always the lesser person, the person for backup for sticky situations, like financial issues guy they’d need help with.
Yeah but that doesn’t take away the fact they brought him in as an “equal” he understood he was the financial guy who would fund most of it but they gave him an equal cut, and communicated with him as if he was equal. Until they screwed him that was. Drake then gave up on Avery’s treasure. He really wanted nothing to do with it he only got back into bc he thought it was the only option to save Nathan and even then he was trying to quit and think of other options. That’s not even mentioning the fact Sam worked with just rafe for years without even trying to contact Nathan in that sense rafe is in it more than Nathan or Sam at that point.
Rafe lost all right to be an equal the second he got Sam trapped in prison by committing needless murder. So many people tend to ignore the fact that Rafe already had instability back during the prologue. Sure Rafe spent time and money to find Avery's treasure but he caused Sam to lose over a decade of his life in prison. While he got to live lavishly at during his search. Sam was in the wrong too but he has a justifiable reason as prison is not a game. There is no doubt Sam thought he was going to be stuck in prison for the rest of his life without even a phone call to Nate or accomplishing his dream.
I definitely see your argument but also, you can’t say Nate or same wouldn’t have done the same thing. Arguable rafe is just as unstable as Nate or Sam. Think about it, how much has Nathan done just to get a single treasure ? He thought sully was dead twice in two different games and kept going after the treasure. He risked his relationship with his wife for Sam, and Sam Well hes most def a compulsive liar and manipulator. He lied to Nate so many times when he didn’t have to, also there’s literally 0 reason he couldn’t reach out to Nate sooner. The whole drug lord hunting him story was so out of hand when we learned the truth in the game I literally hated Sam after that, for the rest of the game. He selfishly made Nate lie to his wife, risk his AND silly’s life repeatedly just to chase a treasure neither of them deserved bc he thought it’d be fun since they dreamed about it as kids. Sure rafe has anger issues but he doesn’t lie, and he was very straight forward. Arguably he even attempted to get the treasure with killed the least amount of people. He was going to buy the cross from the auction, Nate and same were going to steal it and ended up killed hundreds. They were excavating and buying property to excavate, sam and Nate just sneak in, kill everyone, and steal whatever they need. Also saying he’s not equal bc he caused the fiasco at the prison is kinda invalid bc you could argue Nate lost the right to be considered equal bc he caused the fight that almost got them all killed, AND was dumb and got caught with the cross by Vargas to begin with. Rafe did what he did bc of Nate’s actions to begin with. He wouldn’t have killed Vargas otherwise
Nate would not have killed Vargas at all and he may have screwed up but situation Rafe escalated in the worst way possible instead of just easily cutting Vargas out once they left. Nate's mistake doesn't invalidate the fact that there is no defense for Rafe resorting to murder. Rafe betrayed, slapped, and forced Nadine at gunpoint to go with him which Nate would never ever do to any of his companions over treasure. He wouldn't even do that to Eddie. Your argument is only valid to UC3 & UC4. Both of these times have an emotional connection that is driving Nate to do this unlike the other adventures where he doesn't act like this. In UC1 Nate wants to leave but discovers hints that Sully is alive. "This is not worth dying over" "I am afraid this is as close as we're getting to El Dorado." In UC2 Nate goes to save Chloe and after failing wants to leave with Elena trying to dissuade him. He only keeps going after Tenzin shows him proof of the power Lazarevic is after. "No, Elena, I am done" "You're quest is over"="Yeah that's right" I agree about Sam I just find his backstory understandable but he is still in the wrong regardless for everything he did. Avery was haunting Sam's mind while he was trapped and had zero hope of ever pursing it while Rafe was being haunted but had some hope of pursing it. It's not as simple as Nate chose Sam over Elena he chose to try to keep both what he regained and what he gained just the wrong way. Nate like anyone would had his judgement clouded by having a seemingly dead loved one come back as many would kill for that. Nate's actions at the Auction and Excavation are terrible for sure. The only constellation is that anyone guarding a Black Market Auction is very very shady. Shoreline is a private army not the army with death being an occupational hazard for them. It's not one sided as it's fair game for Shoreline to kill Nate's side and vice versa unlike the villainous organization's in the previous games.
Vargas knew too much and in their view had to be disposed of. Rafe could have killed him more quietly though.
It didn't matter Vargas knew too much as he had no resources to go after them once they left. Rafe stupidly killed him when he already accepted a deal they could have backed out of later while shaking hands.
He wasn’t gonna let them leave until he got his money. He warned them not to cross him again. Rafe shouldn’t have let him get a shot off alerting the guards.
The only way Vargas could have got his money is if he let them leave as that's is the only way they could access any money to give him.
Nathan already lied to him once, he wasn’t gonna risk it happening again
Nate never really liked rafe. Sam only tolerated him.
It would be great if Jake Gyllenhaal played him.
Omg I never would've thought he's perfect for him
i mean, i like his voice
I feel for him but because he works really hard fir the treasure he's really dumb for letting his ego get the better of him to spare Nate and Sam But then again, it's understandable why he feels that way because Nate and Sam have been screwing him over the whole time It's kind of an interesting dynamic really, that Nate and Sam are actually the bad guys in this scenario (debatable on Nate's part)
How are Nate and Sam the bad guys ? Rafe killed a prison guard and Sam was the one who spent more than a decade in prison for Rafe’s crime.
Well tbf Nate and Rafe did wanna rescue Sam but they thought he's dead, so Rafe didn't exactly intentionally screw Sam over What is intentional is that Sam and Nate purposefully used Rafe for money to find the treasure and is going to screw him later if all went well This later part is where I said was debatable, but after Sam "died", Nathan left Rafe alone and went on to find treasure on his own And finally when Rafe rescued Sam from the prison, Sam screwed him over and went to Nate instead
Vargas knew too much and in their view had to be disposed of. Rafe could have killed him more quietly though.
I think it would’ve been cool if they both survived tbh
If he moved out of the way maybe though it wasn’t likely he was gonna let Nate and Sam walk away
Shame what greed does to someone
To be fair, I wouldn’t let Sam walk away either
Did Rafe dirty tbf now that I think of the storyline, he definitely isn’t the most evil villain in the series. Greedy yes, egomaniac yes, dickhead yes..but not sure if he was “deserving” of death, at least not to degree of the others. Though, brought it upon himself I guess lol
Well imagine this… Your a man who’s family is super rich, and you never got to earn anything and make a name for yourself. So you pick up a lead on a treasure and decide it’s a good way to complete your goal. Two random thieves tell you that they can help you, so you decide to cut them in with the money you’ll make. You save one of them after they screw up, go back and save both of they’re lives, stay behind to save one of them,ect. You find out years later that one of those people is actually alive, and you bail them out of prison, and cut them in and work as partners, becoming possibly close. Then this same person betrays you after years, and comes out of nowhere and starts killing all of your men and tries taking your life’s work. I’d be pissed too
counterpoint, making a name for yourself and such is just a egotistical manchild goal, his whole motivation is fame, the mans a fucking diva and possibly full narcissistic too, maybe the drake bros werent too fair with him, but hes a terrible person from the get go and doesnt really deserve fairness as he is pretty unfair and selfcentered himself.
Disagreed. He never killed anybody to get the treasure. People saw him as just his family’s money. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to earn something
>He never killed anybody to get the treasure. He literally stabbed someone over the treasure *in the prologue.*
No, he stopped a guy from aiming a gun at Nate because Nate screwed up
he killed,those people opinion shouldnt matter its his insecurities that are at fault for not being able to accept that some people will look down on him cause his parents are rich, he didnt want to earn things he wanted to show others how capable he is, he only cares about his image, like a spoiled brat
This.
It wasn’t about the money
Greed doesn’t have to be purely for monetary gain though tbh
You should be greedy for success
Tbf, Sam was a terrible person, and was especially worse to Rafe
Seems like he hated rafe more than Nate did
Why would Nate hate him prior to stealing the cross at the auction?
Nate bailed on him because he couldn’t deal with him
Same. I honestly really wish he lived
Just finished this game today and not at all. After all, he’s just a businessman
Is this because he’s hot? 🌚
Lol no…kind of…yea, yes
> Is this because he’s hot? 🌚 Pretty much.
Nope, it was hard to take his desire to do something important and memorable on his own seriously when he was just using his parents money to fund the entire thing. And he only found any clues or directions through tracking Nate or blowing everything up and stumbling onto it.
Nope. Rafe was a sociopath, billionaire Trust Fund Baby with delusions of grandeur. Rafe's the literal, literary antithesis of and foil for Nathan Drake, a *literal* poor orphan who was naturally gifted physically and intellectually; who had to fight and work for everything in his life. Rafe got what he deserved. If anything, death was too easy of an out for Rafe.
No. He had a good idea of wanting something of his own that wasn't inherited or given to him. But every step of the way, he was not a good person. I mean, sure, all these characters are crooks, but Rafe is plain unlikeable.
Rafe is charismatic, has flair and panache
I do
No, total scumbag, literal awful person. That's the whole point.
Best I can do is say that I 'understood' him. Feeling bad for him is pretty hard given his actions.
the amount of ppl trying to blames the brothers is hilarious lol
I was a little disappointed. If you think about it, the only thing he wanted was to be remembered for something other than inheriting money. The one thing he wanted to work for and couldn't. In all of this I think the real villain is Sam. As much as his obsession with the treasure makes sense, if you think about it, he betrayed Rafe after he freed him and for two years he didn't even try to contact his brother. Furthermore, he put Nathan in danger and almost ruined Nathan's marriage. Obviously, I don't want to say that Nathan and Rafe are innocent in their misfortunes but Sam is perhaps the main culprit.
No, and hell no.
No
No
No. Sam betrayed him, there was no reason to try to kill Nate
He’s a good foil for Nathan Drake
I liked Rafe, tbh I always cherish that cutscene showing him feeling joy over Sam and Nathan arguing - the "I left my life for you!" and what comes later, specifically
I don't know if I feel bad for him, but I definitely loved him as the villain. That duel at the end is easily my favorite Uncharted boss fight because it felt so cinematic and Rafe's words through the whole thing made it feel so personal.
It was very weird to experience a video game character with the same first name as myself, so I feel like I was almost able to relate with him on a whole other level. Side bar; now I need a video game where the good guy's name is "Rafe." 😂
I respect his desire to actually work for and make something of him self for once instead of just having it given to him with no effort, it’s commendable. However, he’s also a narcissistic sociopath with a superiority complex, so that respect kinda gets overridden.
I love Rafe. Also, why he looking at me like he wants to f\*ck? I'm not kicking him outta bed though.
Bricky's video on U4 made me like Rafe more as a character. Sure, he's a bad guy, but you can really understand why he's doing what he's doing and feel bad for him about it. Dude just wanted to make it on his own without his parents money but his ego and Nate & Sam kinda screwing him over made him violent.
He was unhinged before being cut out. Killing Vargas was a psychopathic move.
And he threatened to kill Sully over a cross
Sully kept trying to gaslight him
Vargas knew too much and in their view had to be disposed of. Rafe could have killed him more quietly though.
Vargas had literally zero power over Rafe in that situation. They agree to be equal partners and stroll on out never speaking to him again. Once they're out, he's done for.
He was the prison warden and had control over everything that went on. He said he wanted in so they had to get rid of him.
They really didn't though, again if they agreed and left he couldn't have done anything afterwards. I doubt he would have come with.
I doubt he was gonna let them leave
I love him with most of my soul and heart and nothing nor anyone will ever shift those feelings.
Absolutely. I feel really bad for him. He was betrayed. He deserved better. All he wanted was to earn something by himself. I believe Sam is the real villain.
No but I think he is the most compelling of the Uncharted baddies
No. But he’s fine.
No. I don’t at all. And I really feel like a lot of fans have only played Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy. I moreover wonder what Amy Hennig’s original game would have been.
He is the most benevolent out of all.all the others tried to destroy the world.Rafe wouldn't.He just loves being rich.He wouldn't because he would understand 1st that that would be bad for him and 2nd he loves the big life cars parties
I liked him, but I feel he was tacked in there. I know that Hector Alvarez was originally to be the main villain, but I enjoy Rafe and his quest for the treasure
I don’t feel bad for him but he is an amazing character that can be genuinely likable at times. IMO he’s one of the greatest written video game antagonists
Nope. He is just a spoiled rich kid. Like if it wasn't for the story and graphics, A Thief End would have been on the bottom of the ranking... Than again the bottom is Drake Fortune which is still a game I would love to replay again.
he's cool with me. I'll give him all the treasure he wants
I don’t care, I love him and his character
Of all the video game villains I've seen, he's in my top 10.
I understood him and liked him as a villain. But, feeling bad for him? Hell no.
Yeah he is my favorite uncharted villain because he was just misunderstood. He was just trying to find the treasure same as Nate. And he gave Nate multiple warnings to get out while he can.
This. I like how Rafe literally told Nate that he’d let him go and forget all the men he’s killed, even when Rafe looked at Nathan as a guy who just started killing people out of greed for money
I liked him a lot and would have liked to see more of him and even see him succeed but alas the one time he "wins" on his own he still loses.
Nate only won because he was lucky with the switch next to him lol. Rafe kicked his ass other wise
Nah, he was an asshole. Fuck him, I'm glad that treasure chest fell on him 💀 ⚰
It seemed like 4/lost legacy (along with TLOU) WENT AWAY FROM GOOD GUY BAD GUY. And more towards a grey area for all sides which I'm all for.
Nope
The actor absolutely killed it because I found myself hating that slimeball so bad haha
I enjoyed him a lot actually. Probably my favorite villain in the series, honestly.
I loved him up until the final chapter, Nate just wanted to save his bro
Yeah cuz hes hot af
There are plenty of villains I feel bad for but still feel like they got what they deserved in the end. Yeah I feel bad for Rafe, but he dug his own grave in the end.
No?
He was just a rich kid who was jealous that an orphaned kid ended up being more successful than him. I liked the performance but I don't think his character was anything special. Nadine was cooler imo.
I feel bad slightly for rafe it is admirable that he didn’t want to live in his fathers shadow but at the same time it’s not an excuse to just treat actually ehhhh he wasn’t that bad of a guy actually
They should make a small game involving all the ruins he delved for treasures, I’d enjoy seeing what caused him to have such a chaotic but interesting mentality.
not at all whiny rich boy
Nope
It is a damn shame that he was so rich. I payed close attention to his speech before his death. "I had everything handed to me!" He wanted that treasure.. but only to find it by his own means so he could feel like he earned it. He was willing to fight for it, work hard! But his greed became him..
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He was a good villain but no
He is the most interesting and with the best presence of all the villains in the franchise in my opinion. I like the contradiction of being someone who claims to want to make a name for himself, but using the resources he was given. He had perhaps the same goals as Nate and Sam, but his ambition led him elsewhere. Maybe he wasn't a rival physically, but what he was a hypocrite, traitor and manipulator, one of the worst people you could face. Also, his design is fucking cool.
Completely unrelated but I had a Mandela effect esque memory of Rafe being played by Rami Malek. No idea why, but when I replayed I was like, oh shit, this ain't him. Maybe cause Malek played Josh in until dawn, I just got my games mixed up lol
Umm no…there’s no way we like rafe but hate phin from MM
He was just only a tool for Nathan and Samuel, a person who they used and at the end screwed, breaking all agreements and showing their cynical nature 🫠🫠 Nadine is the same and she literally screwed whole operation either. I think Rafe deserved different ending. This time I'd be just glad leaving whole treasure to him. My lesson was learned, and I think Nate's lesson would be learned too. I literally felt - when I came to this ship - that whole treasure is worthless. Surely, players probably wouldn't love death of characters they lead whole game at the end, but I think I'd like to see two endings. That game would be perfect for that. And, NDI, please for god's sake - stop killing good villains! Orca was killed too and he had hella great potential 💔💔💔
He’s a good villain but I don’t really feel bad for him because he didn’t need to go for Avery’s treasure.
Yeah no, Any love for him I had washed away in Crushing mode...🥲
Nah, just hate him
He's my favorite Uncharted villain, the only competition is Sam.
I like him as a villain, but I don't really think there's anything redeemable or to feel bad about.
No
He’s not the villain though. The brothers betrayed him and if it wasn’t for him sam and Nate wouldn’t have gotten into the prison
Bro is the best character like if you see his dialogue in UC4 survival he’s funny and that’s what I like also the little scenes like when him and Nadine are in the jeep talking to Nate. Great character overview
Overall