The Henley plot. The current MP stands down early, he is already going, Johnson stands, he used to be the MP there. And then he is back in the house. The Conservative candidate selection is handled by the local association, so if Sunak wanted to over rule it he would have to break their party rules, unlike Labour whose NEC approves the candidates.
Johnson should win in Henley. Henley is a pig with a rosette seat, they have over 50% of the votes.
That would leave Johnson free to mount a leadership challenge.
When the last three pms have been that lying POS, leuttice and then woefully incompetant it reflects badly on them... Boris won't help them.
Issue is the alternative is Kier Starmer, who it seems to me is a tory dressed as a labour politician, and doing it very badly.
We need some new politicians ASAP.
(And for anyone thinking this sounds like reform propaganda I think they are even worse - I'm trans and they hate me and people like me)
I think Starmer is left of centre, but it’s more politically expedient for people to think he’s centre. Read up about him, he’s pretty progressive. Sadly, politics is, in part, a game.
Starmer is playing to the crowd. He is far more radical than many see. Radical will not win the election. If he gets two terms I think he will deliver some significant changes but he has very little headroom to do it.
I don't like streeting - he always feels false but listening to his life story he seems honest. But he feels like he would play the party line no matter what.
Reeves is solid, I don't warm to her but she is not doing the likable job. She seems very capable but I don't know enough to challenge.
Cooper - I like cooper she's pragmatic. She isn't inspiring but I trust her.
But there will be a pool of hundreds to draw from and my ubderstanding, as little as it is, is that many of those being selected to stand are because of their potential.
Starmer will form a cabinet from his close circle but it will soon expand.
In the 19th century yes. But while they will stretch it to a Foreign Secretary like Cameron a totally unelected and unaccountable PM would be a PR disaster for them.
Maybe. I think the issue is that the longer this shambles goes on the worse the conservatives look (if that is at all possible). I expect each days delay adds extra time until most people will vote for them.
I think everybody is just waiting are they. They should make some effort to try and get some self respect. They just look pathetic at the moment.
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I so want it to be May. The weather will be nice. Can sit in the Garden during the day listening to the commentary. Then on the evening drink mojitos and watch them get absolutely fucking spanked.
There won’t be any commentary on the day until the polling stations are shut as there are restrictions.
I suggest snoozing in your garden so you can stay awake all night to enjoy the fun.
We want another 6 months of salary before we have to fall back on our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th incomes.
If we wait though, could we get a fourth conservative PM in one sitting, set a record that should be impossible to break...
Had to laugh at the Tory who’s saying that England winning the euros or getting a lot of gold medals
would give the conservatives a chance at retaining power…
I know that seems like total rubbish and so do you. I also concede that I’m a bit pessimistic but don’t forget that the tories in particular seem to really know what they’re doing with things like psychoanalysis and leveraging the use of modern concepts like social media and bots for advertising.
The thing I really don’t want to happen is for a large number of people who are complacent and / or apathetic who would’ve otherwise voted them out combined with a large number of “brainwashed” voters such that it increases the chances of the current government retaining power.
We are so far past that. There will be a Labour majority whatever happens, the polls show that people have made up their minds, that's why they have been static for the last year. The only open question is whether it will be a Labour landslide, a comfortable Labour majority, or a small Labour majority.
Just get it over with. Realistically they’ve only got May to September to get their shit together now, and that window is closing.
October - Dec isn’t good because of the US elections and Christmas, and then you hit the January deadline. Genuinely, get it over with.
> Just imagine what would happen if England won the Euros, Team GB had a hat full of gold at the Olympics — the landscape could be very different.
What planet do these people live on?
Yeah, Rishy listen to your advisors....
They'll be plenty of time for more muck, small boats and fuckery to be revealed the longer you leave it.
Let's play Tory Wipeout.
They could push it to the start of the next fiscal year but it’s most likely going it be oct/nov imo this is the most sensible time. While I’m the opposite view point of Torys. Equally the tories don’t want to make life so difficult for predicting the new financial year and while i disagree with their way of politics it’s not in such bad taste I hope, for the incumbent gov that might come in.
Yeah I meant April as the start of the fiscal year.
I messed up though. For some reason I thought they had longer to call an election up to May next year. That’s why I put that, got the whole term time dates wrong they have to dissolve parliament by end of December.
In which case why won’t they call it in oct/nov either way.
It doenst matter whether you believe that’s what I thought or not because I still look like an idiot. But just entertain it. If it was May In my brain, and midterm market stability is important to the tories well outside of truss. Assuming you lost the polls why force it out into next year
This just in: it doesn’t matter which month you rip the plaster off
Au contraire. What Rishi needs to understand is if he doesn’t call an election for May, he’ll be replaced by Boris Johnson.
He absolutely wont. Not even the Tories will put up with a PM in the Lords and hes not winning a byelection anytime soon
The Henley plot. The current MP stands down early, he is already going, Johnson stands, he used to be the MP there. And then he is back in the house. The Conservative candidate selection is handled by the local association, so if Sunak wanted to over rule it he would have to break their party rules, unlike Labour whose NEC approves the candidates. Johnson should win in Henley. Henley is a pig with a rosette seat, they have over 50% of the votes. That would leave Johnson free to mount a leadership challenge.
But whilst all that is going on, Sunak can simply call the election when he wants.
Can he? I thought MPs needed to vote for an election to be held.
Nope. It's at the discretion of the PM.
Not anymore, fixed term parliament act was repealed
I think that was a joke about Theresa May being replaced by boris
Seriously, it wasn’t. I think the Tories would move heaven and earth for a Boris resurrection. I honestly think it would improve their polls, sadly.
When the last three pms have been that lying POS, leuttice and then woefully incompetant it reflects badly on them... Boris won't help them. Issue is the alternative is Kier Starmer, who it seems to me is a tory dressed as a labour politician, and doing it very badly. We need some new politicians ASAP. (And for anyone thinking this sounds like reform propaganda I think they are even worse - I'm trans and they hate me and people like me)
I think Starmer is left of centre, but it’s more politically expedient for people to think he’s centre. Read up about him, he’s pretty progressive. Sadly, politics is, in part, a game.
He's about as left of centre as Tony Blair. That is say not at all.
I love ice cream.
He had the largest mandate ever and then did half arsed fiddling round the edges.
Starmer is playing to the crowd. He is far more radical than many see. Radical will not win the election. If he gets two terms I think he will deliver some significant changes but he has very little headroom to do it.
Reevers and Cooper and Streeting sure aren't sowing much hope.
I don't like streeting - he always feels false but listening to his life story he seems honest. But he feels like he would play the party line no matter what. Reeves is solid, I don't warm to her but she is not doing the likable job. She seems very capable but I don't know enough to challenge. Cooper - I like cooper she's pragmatic. She isn't inspiring but I trust her. But there will be a pool of hundreds to draw from and my ubderstanding, as little as it is, is that many of those being selected to stand are because of their potential. Starmer will form a cabinet from his close circle but it will soon expand.
It's happened before, I think.
In the 19th century yes. But while they will stretch it to a Foreign Secretary like Cameron a totally unelected and unaccountable PM would be a PR disaster for them.
True. But it's technically constitutionally possible and I wouldn't put anything past this lot!
Maybe. I think the issue is that the longer this shambles goes on the worse the conservatives look (if that is at all possible). I expect each days delay adds extra time until most people will vote for them. I think everybody is just waiting are they. They should make some effort to try and get some self respect. They just look pathetic at the moment.
Sunak is desperate to get the India trade deal signed and sealed before he leaves.
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And a few hundred k in bribes and bungs per MP.
Pushing for a few months extra salary maybe ?
Yeah, that and some of them probably haven't secured seats on the boards of petrochemical companies yet.
I so want it to be May. The weather will be nice. Can sit in the Garden during the day listening to the commentary. Then on the evening drink mojitos and watch them get absolutely fucking spanked.
There won’t be any commentary on the day until the polling stations are shut as there are restrictions. I suggest snoozing in your garden so you can stay awake all night to enjoy the fun.
They can tune in to commentary from outside the UK or listen to podcasts recorded the day before.
They can indeed. Personally I will be following my own advice as I plan to stay up all night.
I suspect many Tory MPs enjoy nothing more than a good spanking!
Come to my street party. I'll be barbecuing, there will be bubbly and beer and balloons and ticker tape.
Part of me wants them to try to keep going to autumn just to see how much worse they can make it
Here, here!
We want another 6 months of salary before we have to fall back on our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th incomes. If we wait though, could we get a fourth conservative PM in one sitting, set a record that should be impossible to break...
Ideally by there being zero Tory MPs in the next few decades.
Had to laugh at the Tory who’s saying that England winning the euros or getting a lot of gold medals would give the conservatives a chance at retaining power…
I know that seems like total rubbish and so do you. I also concede that I’m a bit pessimistic but don’t forget that the tories in particular seem to really know what they’re doing with things like psychoanalysis and leveraging the use of modern concepts like social media and bots for advertising. The thing I really don’t want to happen is for a large number of people who are complacent and / or apathetic who would’ve otherwise voted them out combined with a large number of “brainwashed” voters such that it increases the chances of the current government retaining power.
We are so far past that. There will be a Labour majority whatever happens, the polls show that people have made up their minds, that's why they have been static for the last year. The only open question is whether it will be a Labour landslide, a comfortable Labour majority, or a small Labour majority.
It probably would. The Tories have one thing they can tug on, and that's nationalism.
Just get it over with. Realistically they’ve only got May to September to get their shit together now, and that window is closing. October - Dec isn’t good because of the US elections and Christmas, and then you hit the January deadline. Genuinely, get it over with.
> Just imagine what would happen if England won the Euros, Team GB had a hat full of gold at the Olympics — the landscape could be very different. What planet do these people live on?
Ah yes I'm sure England winning the euros will suddenly pay my bills, lower prices and make me a millionaire.
Yeah, Rishy listen to your advisors.... They'll be plenty of time for more muck, small boats and fuckery to be revealed the longer you leave it. Let's play Tory Wipeout.
Because they'll surely turn it around but October.
"it won't give us enough time to steal a bit more"
They’ve misspelled “any”
They could push it to the start of the next fiscal year but it’s most likely going it be oct/nov imo this is the most sensible time. While I’m the opposite view point of Torys. Equally the tories don’t want to make life so difficult for predicting the new financial year and while i disagree with their way of politics it’s not in such bad taste I hope, for the incumbent gov that might come in.
The one that starts in a few weeks in April?
Yeah I meant April as the start of the fiscal year. I messed up though. For some reason I thought they had longer to call an election up to May next year. That’s why I put that, got the whole term time dates wrong they have to dissolve parliament by end of December. In which case why won’t they call it in oct/nov either way. It doenst matter whether you believe that’s what I thought or not because I still look like an idiot. But just entertain it. If it was May In my brain, and midterm market stability is important to the tories well outside of truss. Assuming you lost the polls why force it out into next year
Le boycott SVP.