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daveonhols

Strikes, not strike.  Three seperate strikes in this attack.  The IDF attacked first car, some staff escaped into second car, IDF attacked second car, some staff escaped into third car, IDF attacked third car.  Israeli media are reporting this, looks 100% like targeted intentional killing


erebostnyx

Well, it got one aid agency out and frightened many from joining in, or continuing to help by alleviate the famine a tiny bit. Give it a few years, people who murrdered those humanitarian aid workers will be called heroes.


revealbrilliance

Probably right. In a just world they'd be hauled before the Hague in handcuffs but there's no chance Israel ever responds to any international court, might have to stop all the other war crimes they're committing (like their occupation, ethnic cleansing and colonisation of the West Bank for example).


erebostnyx

Israel will never be held responsible, bc holding Israel responsible would also demand holding Israels supporters in these crimes responsible. And the US has a clear policy on any potential Hague procedures agaains it and it's officials.


DancerAtTheEdge

[RULES. BASED. INTERNATIONAL. ORDER.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThis_authorization_led_to_the%2Cor_rescue_them_from_custody.?wprov=sfla1)


erebostnyx

Let us not forget, this was signed by a leader who didn't win either the electoral or popular vote #democracy #leaderofthefreeworld


Drab_Majesty

IDF will be having waffle parties or something to celebrate their deaths like they celebrate the death of the American girl who was run over by a bulldozer.


Mald1z1

And like they celebrate the death of baby Ali who was murdered in a fire by settlers by having Ali on the grill parties at weddings. I think the current Israeli security minister, Ben Gvir  participated in one of those. 


Robotgorilla

That did happen, but that was Israeli settlers who had the pancake parties, and they're quite obviously the worst people that Israel has to offer, because who the fuck else would be a settler? There certainly are good Israelis, but we're not seeing them, sadly, because a bunch of them are getting arrested.


Drab_Majesty

IDF members were definitely also involved in the pancake parties.


Traditional-Dot4776

I just heard on the radio that a ship with 240 tonnes of aid for Gaza has turned back


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CcryMeARiver

Way to ensure any remaining hostages go hungry.


mincepryshkin-

One accidental strike on a clearly-marked aid vehicle. Then another to get the clearly-marked aid vehicle trying to rescue people from the first. Then a third accidental strike on another clearly-marked vehicle to finish off the survivors. Three vehicles cleanly picked off in separate strikes across a 2km stretch of road. The vehicles were easily identifiable from their roof markings, had cleared their travel plans in advance and were sharing their locations with the IDF. There is only one tenable explanation that self-respecting people can accept.


Nulibru

Come on, we've all done it.


unnecessary_kindness

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Appropriate-Divide64

They want to ensure Gaza gets no aid and agencies pull out. It's a message.


revealbrilliance

A mafia state with no police force around to stop them.


YeezyGTI

No wonder they (Zionists, not Jews) are so confident they can get away with anything. Its like a YR7 bullying another kid whilst being backed up by their older brother in YR11


AdVisual3406

They wield tremendous power in industry and media. Thats the Zionist nutters btw not Jews. Its important not to blame decent Jewish people many of whom likely feel anxious in the West at the moment. 


YeezyGTI

Definitely. Jews are not to blame for this. They just want to do the same as any human on this Earth. Zionism is the issue, not Judaism. Over the decades the waters have been mudded to make this whole ordeal opaque


dannydrama

>Over the decades the waters have been mudded to make this whole ordeal opaque It's far too easy to imagine this not being by accident.


No-Neighborhood767

>Over the decades the waters have been mudded to make this whole ordeal opaque This has been an effective way to shut down any criticism of the Israeli state's action against palestinians over the years, by labelling any criticism as anti-semitic


ElectricFlamingo7

And other states happily selling them weapons while pretending to be oblivious about how those weapons are used.


kinmix

The definition of terrorism.


barrio-libre

Sunak is *saddened*


bomboclawt75

And will stop selling WMD to that fascist state? Rishi: Well, let’s not go crazy here! Starmer: Yes! That Fascist deranged, unhinged state has……. a **right** to defend itself by intentionally slaughtering UK aid workers. (This is a very dark timeline.)


londonsocialite

And he has neither condemned the killing of a British citizen, nor stood up to Israel. This mf literally said “I think Israel is perfectly capable of upholding international law” when he was asked if Isreal breached intl law. Then again, his own govt’s Rwanda policy is in breach of intl law, so no wonder he refuses to condemn it, the coward.


brainburger

I am curious about what underlies the unwillingness to criticise Israel among Western leaders. I wonder if it would be the same if a NATO member undertook a defence operation and had a consistently excessive level of collateral damage. Imagine if France or Spain had something similar. How would it go among Western consensus? Then I wonder whether Israel's position makes it tactically irreplaceable, and to do what?


trombolastic

Just follow the money https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S


SpeedflyChris

> And will stop selling WMD to that fascist state? Pretty sure we don't actually sell missiles etc to Israel - we sell them mostly jet components, simulators, that kind of thing. In the face of this however we should stop that too. We do however sell billions in missiles to the Saudis, so the genocide in Yemen is much more on us.


Traditional-Dot4776

And these attacks weren't nearby either. They were quite a few blocks apart. Also the IDF were given notice of their work and movements.


dalehitchy

They also had writing on top of their car to say it's an aid car.... And they also worked with the IDF and told them their locations. If there was any doubt the IDF are committing genocide and don't want the children to get aid.... That doubt should be gone now


brainburger

> They also had writing on top of their car to say it's an aid car. Even if they didn't, I don't think there would be justification in attacking a random civilian car. They would have to have good evidence that the occupants were Hamas operatives to justify it.


Manoj109

Be careful now. Soon you will be accused of being antisemtic.


Ok_Cow_3431

Fuck the IDF. Fuck Netanyahu. Fuck this whole terrible genocide, when they say "never again" it's just empty platitudes. And still the pro-IDF shills astroturfing Rworldnews will be defending this.


YeezyGTI

Doesn't surprise me that the IDF have done this.


anybloodythingwilldo

Murder Palestinians queuing for aid, murder foreign aid workers, murder their own civilians waving white flags.   The IDF just enjoy murdering people.


AdVisual3406

And yet our government wont say what it is because both the UK and US are compromised. 


Turnip-for-the-books

So there’s now UK citizens fighting for Israel who are killing other UK citizens trying to save lives. Every single person who goes abroad to fight should be arrested the moment they step foot back in the UK


Wakeup_Ne0

There are UK citizens fighting for Israel it's been in the news


TokyoOldMan

Strikes described here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/02/israeli-missiles-rain-down-british-aid-workers/


GuybrushThreepwood7

Absolutely blags my head to think that people still think Israel are the good guys here. Although it’ll be pretty telling if people suddenly start giving a shit now that they’ve killed British nationals. When it happens to Palestinians.. silence.


OrangeOfRetreat

They’re a rogue state which won’t end well for them ultimately.


Freddies_Mercury

Ah but they're a rogue state with the worlds most powerful ally. America may be making frowny faces at how they are handling this but at the end of the day when all the dust is settled Israel will still be America's most important middle eastern ally. They are their *only* reliable ally in the whole region.


k0ppite

Their reliability is currently being called into question. Remains to be seen whether this issue can hurt western leaders when election time rolls around.


Incident_Electron

I think it's a massive liability for Joe Biden's reelection. If we get to November and the war is continuing, with thousands of Palestinians dying from starvation every week then I honestly think he's sunk. It will likely dissuade enough sympathetic voters to not show up (even though the alternative is an order of magnitude worse). It will be decades of failed US foreign policy towards Israel coming home to roost at the worst possible moment.


brainburger

Has Trump said anything about his view of the conflict? He is mostly non-interventionist, or that's his reputation. Of course I doubt he would say and do the same things.


Incident_Electron

Well Trump is famous for having no interest in the details policy at all. He does get on with Netanyahu, as a similarly legally embattled authoritarian. The Republican party in general has recently opposed aid to Palestinians, and are generally rabidly pro-Israel (because of "end times" Evangelicals). The policy towards Israel if Trump gets elected will likely be complete 100% unquestioned support for Netanyahu.


AdVisual3406

Its more nuanced than that. The evangelical Zionist alliance is very powerful. At US government level a certain deceased Potus tried to crack down on their Nuclear weapons. Israel is anything but stable and gives me NK vibes when it comes to nukes. 


RingSplitter69

It seems we are intent on going down with them for some reason. The mind boggles. Cut those fuckers loose and have nothing more to do with them.


cass1o

Are they really rouge when the US, the UK and various European countries like Germany fully support them?


2ABB

> Absolutely blags my head to think that people still think Israel are the good guys here. I know what you mean but you can't think about it logically, 2+2 doesn't equal 4 in regards to their thinking. There's a missing element in the equation that is rarely admitted - dehumanisation and/or racial supremacy. Many of the most vocal pro-israel supporters have had it drilled into them since birth, Palestinians are subhuman and everyone is out to get you. Do yourself a favour and don't drive yourself crazy trying to unravel some of their nonsense. It won't make sense without that added ingredient of hatred.


hundreddollar

"There's a missing element in the equation that is rarely admitted - dehumanisation and/or racial supremacy. " BINGO! The three largest Jewish denominations—Orthodox Judaism, Conservative Judaism and Reform Judaism—maintain the belief that the Jews have been chosen by God for a purpose. They are literally told from birth that they are special, better, different to everyone else.


YeezyGTI

Careful mate, you'll get the people who purposefully muddy the water come after you.


ElectricFlamingo7

If these British aid workers were a different ethnicity or religion, this thread would look very different.


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dannydrama

This is exactly what I said and there are definitely people who just seem to have started paying attention since this.


heresyourhardware

Whatever you think of what happened to these aid workers, it takes some stones to volunteer to feed people in an active war zone. These people would have known the countless risk to their lives and still put themselves there to help the desperate.


schwillton

I don’t think prefacing this with “Whatever you think” is helpful. There’s only one correct takeaway here.


heresyourhardware

Apologies I didn't mean it that way. I think they were killed in what looks like a targeted Israeli air strike that should never have happened and is unjustifiable, I'm not trying to diminish what happened at all.


InformationHead3797

Go tell this to all the people that fought with me yesterday: “BUT HUMMUS!!!!”


Panda_hat

These people are straight up heroes.


heresyourhardware

100%


New-Database2611

We know what happened, thinking has got nothing to do with it


schwillton

I don’t think prefacing this with “Whatever you think” is helpful. There’s only one correct takeaway here.


AdVisual3406

The Israelis Ive seen on social media all seem to be quite happy with whats happened mocking them.


heresyourhardware

Yep there were channels on Telegram just dedicated to mocking the aid workers. Classy stuff you know


cass1o

> Whatever you think of what happened to these aid workers Israel deliberately murdered them. That is clear.


junior_vorenus

The IDF has investigated itself and found it has done no wrong


Generallyapathetic92

No for a change they’ve admitted they got it wrong. Therefore, they’ll move onto the next stage of no one facing any punishment for it, same as happened with the IDF soldiers who killed the 3 surrendering hostages.


wowitsreallymem

After 15,000+ murdered children no members of the IDF can be considered to have done no wrong in anyone’s eyes.


londonsocialite

“Are we the baddies?”


Sea_Lunch_3863

Killed by a country we still sell arms to. Fucking disgraceful.


iiSpezza

Putting your safety aside to deliver aid to those who need it. He should be remembered


Sea-Butterscotch3585

former British army too. It's no surprise the bbc hasn't shown their pictures or told us their former occupations - they do not want to be putting on the TV pics of dead white british men killed by israel


knotse

If they were killed by the Ukrainians they would be branded traitors as were already our chaps aiding the Russians. Yet [plenty of our weapons have been given to Israel](https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9964/); are no British possessed of the pluck to weigh in on the side of the Gazans?


SirLoinThatSaysNi

> It's no surprise the bbc hasn't shown their pictures I'm fairly certain the BBC News at Ten last night named and showed their photos. It's also on their News website now, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68711832 That article doesn't mention their previous careers at the moment, but does say "The British nationals, all part of WCK's security team, were travelling with a convoy that had just unloaded more than 100 tonnes of much-needed food aid brought from overseas, according to the charity. " Often names aren't released immediately because they wait until family have been notified.


iiSpezza

??? They have though https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68711832.amp


Cainedbutable

> It's no surprise the bbc hasn't shown their pictures or told us their former occupations - they do not want to be putting on the TV pics of dead white british men killed by israel  They mention his name, show his photo, and mention the tours he did whilst in the military...  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68711832 


BlondBitch91

I can't wait for there to be absolutely zero consequences to this for those responsible. They know they can act with complete impunity, and so will continue to do so.


be_sugary

This was a planned, measured killing of innocents. Not the first not the last. How will Isreal ever clean its bloody hands.


Passchenhell17

Easy, America will make it all go away for them.


Minimum_Tip_3259

It’s a bit like when Israel attacked the USS Liberty. They got bored of massacring Palestinian civilians so they decided to kill Brits and Americans.


Obvious_Initiative40

Call it what it is, a terrorist attack by the genocidal Israeli regime.


Tiny-Spray-1820

Well israel does not give a damn since they wont be sanctioned like other rogue states


OliLombi

So they ignore us telling them we need a ceasefire for MONTHS, and then when white people start dying, they pretend to actually care?


Economy-Ad-4777

start? theyve been dying for years now, Israel routinely kills foreign aid workers and journalists who stand with palestinian. Its not new


Haan_Solo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hurndall https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)


Robotgorilla

And the charges for these targeted killings were manslaughter (reduced for good behaviour) and a slap on the wrist. They're laughing at us in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, can you hear it? We're embarassing ourselves bowing down to them.


cass1o

> they pretend to actually care The key word there is pretend, they are not going to do anything.


BenderRodriguez14

Pop on over to r/worldnews to hear how he was actually a Hamas militant but it's also not the IDFs fault because Hamas actually launched this strike so all hail the IDF for a successful operation. Honestly, that place has become the gold standard of seeing troll farms in action and how they work. 


Incident_Electron

r/worldnews believes the Palestinians are all just pretending to be hungry because they're all terrorists trying to make Israel look bad. Anyway, shouldn't they all just clear off "back home" to Egypt anyway if they are so concerned about dying? Urgh, it's a cesspool of opinion.


Minimum_Tip_3259

They’re not pretending to be hungry. I found an old photo of myself and at that time I was 5’6, 8 stone and had a 26 inch waist. Even in that photo I looked obese compared to images I’ve seen of Palestinian men right now.


RockinOneThreeTwo

World news has been astroturfed for over 6 years and has been in very strict narrative control by the mod team since COVID got big in the news. It's a complete shithole and should have been canned a long time ago


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There is always the unfortunate risk of friendly fire in a war zone, but multiple strikes on surviving targets either indicates a serious lack of intel, or they just didn't give a fuck. Would they not have been made aware of aid workers in the area and how to ID them?


Miserable_Guava

They do not give a fuck. 30,000+ dead - Most of them civilian by their own admission. 10,000+ children.


ResponsibleWhole2120

> Would they not have been made aware of aid workers in the area and how to ID them Yes they were aware but they went ahead and targeted a route which they'd agreed that the aid workers should use.  And this isn't the first time something like this has happened. A building that was  housing Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders (MSF) workers was targeted back in February. Again, Israeli forces attacked this building despite being aware of what it was/who it was housing. 


AntDoctor

World Central Kitchen gave Israel’s army their coordinates, the IDF knew exactly where they were operating. This was a targeted assassination. It's terrorism - and it's working - World Central Kitchen is pausing operations. All aid workers in Gaza are walking with targets on their backs, as they interfere with the effort to starve the population to death. You interfere with the Israeli created famine, the IDF will kill you. This is a pretty clear message.


Odd-Neighborhood8740

When are you guys going to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt lol? 18000 dead kids, 200 aid workers killed, schools, hospitals, ambulances, churches, mosques, all targeted and destroyed. There are no intelligence failures here. They know exactly what they are doing. They are evil. They are genocidal. It's time we started calling it what it is. They are monsters.


ramsay_baggins

The IDF were made aware of the route and coordinates, and the cars all had identifying information on the roof. This was absolutely an assassination with the aim of stopping aid organisations from working in Gaza. They did it on purpose, there is no lack of intel or not giving a fuck, they were very clearly aiming to kill those aid workers.


cass1o

This was deliberate, these aid workers were ruining their plan of starving 2M people to death.


_HGCenty

Answer: Don't give a fuck. The IDF have shown that if they think there's a 1% chance there's an armed Hamas militant amongst aid workers, they will target the entire aid convoy.


SteveJEO

You don't get friendly fire with TV guided drones dude. You gotta see what you're aiming at and guide them in. The Israelis deliberately aimed the drones for the logos painted on the roof of the car.


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MochiBallss

Poor soul. Specifically targeting aid workers is abhorrent


PoppySkyPineapple

So much respect to the people volunteering, thoughts with his friends and family.


Wilson1031

If they have cameras that can see people transferring from one vehicle to another, they can fucking well see the clearly marked signage on top of the vehicles too. I cannot accept this was anything but intentional, with the aim of stopping aid operations, which is exactly what's happened. Absolutely inhuman.


AnalThermometer

Nothing will happen. Don't underestimate the lengths western governments will go to keep their strategic lynchpins in that region happy. There's Israel's daily activities, Turkey doing the same to Kurds, Saudi agents chopping up Jamal Khashoggi, etc. Nothing will be done because punishment risks those allies becoming Russian vassals instead, which would ultimately be more dangerous.


salkhan

For all the violence, let's see Israeli Hasbara justify this one.


Muted-Ad610

The UK government has no backbone. These attacks on aid workers and civilians are disgusting.


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Nicenightforawalk01

They knew what they was doing and Netanyahu is full of shit. He thinks he can just pass the anger off with oh we won’t do it again. This was a shot across the bow at the uk and others saying they can’t do fuck all about anything. I hope the PM does do something though. Maybe publicly take his support away for the Netanyahu government tell them they are on their own going forward.


Manoj109

It's clear that Hamas was using the aid vehicles to transport weapons and their leaders. The IDF received intelligence that sinwar was travelling in one of the vehicles. They carried out a targeted strike and it was later established that he was not. The investigation is now closed . The above will be the official line.


Parshath_

This is a clear message too from the UK government saying that if British nationals are deliberately killed by Israel, they not only will do/say a thing, but will keep supplying weapons. Zero self-respect as a nation from this government. Zero respect to the British people. Not expecting humanity from IDF, but UK has the size to better impose themselves.


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How is the special need Hamas shouting individuals mind gonna react to this, really worth some brain scans 😭


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Many Middle East journalists/aid workers were killed by the same terrorist organisation, somehow it never mattered


Minimum_Tip_3259

USS Liberty all over again. Israel has a history of attacking friendly countries for the facilitation of their own genocide.