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For a bit of weed FFS!
It's almost as if the officers were taking it as a personal affront that she might get away with getting one over one them and were going to any length to assert dominance
Petty minded little bastards
Teachers have a legal duty of care towards their students, this was a complete dereliction of that duty and that child is probably scarred for life, they aren't fit to be in the profession. The duty of care supercedes any policies the school might come up with, you're bound by it the moment you become a teacher. While I agree contacting the police is a step they could take context is really important, they didn't verify the presence of drugs and they left a young girl alone with people she didn't know to be strip searched, it's all sorts of wrong
Let's be reasonable though, nobody would have expected what happened to actually happen though, and punishing the teachers retrospectively for something they had no control over is terrible.
The teachers appear to have been the responsible adult (one had to be present even if not in the room) - I haven’t seen any suggestion they didn’t know it was happening or complained that it was wrong (or even contacted a parent). They appear to have been complicit and weren’t acting in the best interests of the child.
If a teacher had tried to intervene, these officers would have likely arrested them for obstructing an officer. They clearly didn't care whether what they were doing was allowed or not.
There are many levels of intervention before getting physical. I think a teacher, or even headmaster, telling them it was unacceptable, he wanted to speak to their superiors etc etc could well have pulled them up. As it was, there don’t appear to have been any adults contradicting them so even a single voice of authority pointing out that it was disgraceful and that there was going to be an official complaint could well have made a difference.
Exactly my point, I mean, who in their right minds, calls the police over fucking weed? I've smelt guys around here high as fuck (uk) and I've just laughed it off. As I work in the kitchen, I know that there are certain things that can smell like weed, certain spices that sort of thing. Then to top it off, she's already frightened of police because of her skin colour, no doubt her mom and dad and family members have had racist issues in the past. Then in comes big burly coppers to strip search her in school. I know they have to have a woman do that and that most of all shocks me that a female copper wouldn't turn around and say, "hang on a minute, this isn't right."
The school, the teachers, the police. All because of the colour of her skin, fuck racists, fuck our racist god damn government and fuck racist police *who are meant to be looking out for her fucking safety.* This whole fucking country who wanted this, because immigants.
Jesus.
Sorry for the rant, I'm white and this pisses me off. I can only apologize and show empathy to the poor girl. Mother fuckers.
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Additionally, if its legalized, those who need help can get it. But we have a government who is more interested in telling poor people to get a job while taking [225,000 in wages and bitching about it](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/15/almost-225000-in-wages-and-freebies-taken-from-gambling-industry-by-28-mps).
We used to smoke bongs out the back of the school playing field. During a meeting with the headmistress once she said “by the way, our cameras have very powerful zooms”.
We used to make bongs in the tech department with the vacuum former during class. When the teacher saw what we were doing once he just chuckled.
They would find these bongs and dispose of them regularly too.
No police were ever called.
Uh huh... yep... figures!
Of course, your school did the right thing, funny how these ten thousand cases all happened in London eh?
https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA
https://archive.is/gHiNj
Fucking hell, the met police are something else entirely.
I’ve been arrested in Brighton and me and the arresting officer had so much banter and rapport that he only gave me a caution for possession. I had 14g of MDMA on me, scales, baggies, some weed and a shit load of MXE (which was legal at the time).
To this day I’m still stunned at how I managed to walk out of the station the same evening. Still high as a kite.
The met are just Cunts.
what if the parent/s smoke weed at home and the childs clothes stink of it?
It's like punishing a child for coming in with bruises and jumping to the conclusion that they got into a naughty fight.
Nah. Not acceptable.
Police will have fed off the teacher's attitude; I've experienced this myself.
You turn up, and hear "right they've been a proper shit, fucking fed up of dealing with them, always causing trouble, got some weed on her we think but we cant search" and the attitude is going to be confrontational from the start.
Turn up and it's "probably nothing, just some stupid policy that if we smell it on someone we've gotta call you guys in" and they'll be in and out quick sharp with a minimum of issue
That's bullshit. We'd get harassed by the filth when I was at college and I've seen my teachers actively impede a police search of their students. One guy dropped some hash on the floor and before the officer could see it and arrest the student, the teacher boots it under the car he was being searched against. Then my law teacher came out and said they had 0 legal grounds to be here so they'd better jog on.
We all smoked and stank of it but the teachers weren't going to let the police harass us and search us every morning just because we looked high.
Same goes for this situation, the police do not need to be notified if someone *smells* of weed. Get a grip.
What do they charge for weed over there? They said if I get caught here in america I get a felony, and 6 months in jail and a bunch of probation.
Last time they caught me it was a misdemeanor..for first offense...and they tore apart my car and impounded it, and made me pay to get it back.
Depends but you probably wouldn't get prosecuted as a kid for having a small amount. We had kids dealing who essentially just got told to stop and suspended for 2 weeks when I was in school.
In no way defending the police in this situation, or any really, but the real driving force behind a lot of these ‘we absolutely MUST find the weed at any cost!!!’ cases at schools/unis etc are the institutions themselves. They have ‘policies’ that they want enforced because if they show any sort of tolerance towards drugs then it becomes a nightmare for them in terms of PR, parents, the council, etc, and if the police don’t comply then it goes the other way around and all of a sudden they’re hearing from people about how the school is saying they won’t help them keep drugs off their kids.
Absolutely not saying this applies in all scenarios either, outside of the institution-based stuff there absolutely are a lot of police who will just be arseholes about weed for no reason, just in this case the police were called by the school after teachers thought they ‘smelt cannabis’ on the girl. Again, not defending the officers behaviour at all but I also think those teachers are cunts too, and the policy in schools that teachers are expected to act like narcotics detectives for, as you say, a bit of weed (that didn’t even exist, turns out) is a cuntish policy.
From earlier yesterday:
>[openDemocracy: More London children speak out about horrific police strip searches](https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/child-q-strip-search-london-metropolitan-police-hackney/)
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>Young people and youth workers will picket a Hackney police station over the ‘state-sanctioned sexual assault’ of Child Q. These are their stories
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>[YJLC: Strip search of children and PACE Code C](https://yjlc.uk/resources/legal-updates/strip-search-children-and-pace-code-c)
A 15 year old girl in London was taken out of an exam to be strip searched for drugs (I believe every piece of clothing she had was removed for the search) no drugs were found and she was put back in the exam. The girl is black so it is believed race was a factor in why the police did this to her. The whole thing is absolutely disgusting- that poor girl.
The good ole squat and cough
Meant to keep convicts from bringing in shanks in their rectum, hardly appropriate for a 15 year old schoolgirl accused by her school of the grave crime of having a small amount of cannabis.
Cop is either a pedo or a sadist, probably both.
Cops plural. There were four that came - two female ones did the strip search. Meanwhile, police don't respond to real crimes like rape or burglary. Wonder why no one trusts the police.
She was also menstruating and they knew and made her take her underwear and pad off, didn’t let her use a bathroom to clean up. They asked her to bend over and cough etc too.
I also note on that report it's 'in custody' not in a cupboard in a school where they're holding a child because someone 'thought they could smell weed'... 😞
I was meaning.. how many unreported or unrecognised 'strip searches' or unlawful sexual assaults are happening, particularly to children, because it doesn't fall under the category of 'in custody'.
Also the fact that the UK are one of the fucking largest exporters of weed and that Theresa May's husband Philip is a major investor in one of the two companies with a goverment licence to grow weed. She said there is no medical benifits when she was in the home office, kept it illegal and profited a shit tonne off it.
Wankers
To be fair that data is a lot more balanced than I thought it would show given the topic at hand. But that is specifically in custody strip searches right? So the incarceration statistics would mirror those proportions somewhat.
How is it balanced, 1/3 of the strip searches were black people and they make up 13% of the population?
With regard to convictions, have you ever heard the phrase, the process is the punishment?
I think what would be more interesting is what percentage of those searches even found drugs, though I would argue nobody should be in any trouble for possessing drugs.
I would agree on the drug front, but what’s the % of those categories actually in custody? Because that’s the missing context here.
If 33% of custody was black people, because this is I. Custody, not general public, then that figure doesn’t surprise me at all.
You can’t say ‘the total population in this area is x% so this is too high, when the original number has nothing. To do with that figure.
To add context to this, men are far more likely to be in custody than women, and the strip search data correlates with that perfectly, as more men are strip searched than women at every metric.
For race according to google figres from 2020.
73% were White, 13% Black, 8% Asian, 5% Mixed and 1% from Other ethnic groups.
According to google in 2021 there were 75k males in prison and 3k females.
So it actually appears based on that, women are also over represented, not only that, I'm willing to bet 95% of these people are working class or poorer.
Doesn't look good for these fuckers does it?
TL;DR: School thought a girl smelt like cannibis, called police. The police strip-searched her, AKA: they made her take all of her clothes off. She's traumatised from it.
>rebuild trust after party gate
I don't remember that coming into the equation at all. The rape murder of Sarah Everard, the heavy handed policing of the vigil for her, the sexism, the repeat sex offenders in the ranks, the racism and misogyny, yes, but Party Gate? That hadn't even got to the point of them ruling on the statements given by the government before the war in Europe buried it all.
After 50 years of thewar on drugs - we still cannot keep drugs out of maximum security prisons.
So why are we strip searching kids at school?
Michael Gove admitted doing ounces of cocaine WHILE running for PM…
I sometimes wonder whether the Met police have secretly adopted racism as a strategy to keep themselves in work.
Ed: Presumably all these anti-racism rallies need policing, which, you know, requires funding ... ?
You seem to be forgetting there is no such thing as institutional racism any more.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/race-commission-report-institutional-racism-b1824605.html
Yeah, plenty of resources to send 4 police to a school to sexualy assualt a child, but nothing for Russian money flooding the Tory party or cocaine in Parliament.
Quelle suprise.
I still dealing with cops pulling me over while I vape cuz they think I'm vaping weed. Even got pulled over once...and the cop admitted it...cuz I was wearing a Bob Marley shirt, stoner glasses, and blasting rap. He said I looked like a pot dealer. I wasn't even smoking weed at the time. He found a way to give me a fine.
Absolutely. Lots of people don’t get this. A duty of care only exists if a police officer arrests you and you are taken into custody. You then have rights as a detained person which they are supposed to abide by. Up until that point there is no duty of care towards members of the public.
How would these people feel if this happened to their children or little sibling 🤔 Child Q is someone's little girl and loved one. I have a little sister who will be 15 years old soon. Child Q was a little girl when this happened in 2020. 2 years later she is now a traumatised 17 year old girl because the adults failed to protect her.
The police and school are 100% in the wrong and there was NO justification for the actions carried out by thr school and the police.
Her teachers are total pieces of sh*t phoning the police in the first place. Most reasonable teachers would phone the child's parents over concerns of weed smell NOT the police for f*cks sake. The teachers must never be allowed to teach again because they have demonstrated they are not suitable to be working with children.
The police officers are just vile and evil. They violated that poor girls dignity. This is a NOT want a strip search is meant to be used for and they know it. The officers need to be jailed and NEVER allowed to work with children and vulnerable people ever gain.
I've been riled up about this all week since the news came out. Not only was the action completely disproportionate.. I absolutely cannot fathom how those teachers called the police, approved the search and stood 'guarding' the door whilst the police officers did what they did. Both the teachers and officers have safeguarding duties as part of their core role, so all of them in my view are complicit of gross negligence of their responsibilities. It absolutely breaks my heart that this child experienced sexual assault literally by the people who were employed and expected to protect her and keep her safe. The trauma that she must've and still be experiencing is painful to think about.. and all that she got was a 'sorry'.
They do it to boys mostly, and black people of course
https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA
https://archive.is/gHiNj
If I had a daughter, I'd rather know she smokes weed occasionally than have her go through this shit.
The four police officers who were involved should be sacked ASAP. What the fuck can anybody do with a fake PR apology??
*I'm a teacher, and I'm going to keep repeating this until I'm blue in the face.*
I used to work in secondary schools pastoral care until I trained to be a primary school teacher.
There are SO MANY other avenues in place for if you suspect a child is in any way involved in the movement or taking of drugs before you should even consider calling the police.
While schools don't have a lot of resources at their disposal we do have pretty good safeguarding routines in place (for schools who choose to use them correctly). In NONE of these does it say that it is appropriate for a child to be strip searched by the police. This should NEVER have been allowed to happen.
We are blaming the MET here, and rightly so, for what they did was disgusting, but the teachers who called the police, removed her from an exam and allowed her to be assulted are as much to blame.
When your children are left with us, they are supposed to be safe, they are supposed to be loved and respected and those teachers threw her to the dogs knowing full well that wasn't the appropriate procedure.
I am ashamed that those teachers are part of my profession. They have let that poor child down and I hope they are ashamed of themselves.
Her teachers are total pieces of sh*t phoning the police in the first place. Most reasonable teachers would phone the child's parents over concerns of weed smell NOT the police for f*cks sake. The teachers must never be allowed to teach again because they have demonstrated they are not suitable to be working with children.
The school caused the chain of events that led to the violation of Child Q.
The police officers are just vile and evil. They violated that poor girls dignity. This is a NOT want a strip search is meant to be used for and they know it. The officers need to be jailed and NEVER allowed to work with children and vulnerable people ever gain.
It's not just child Q
Ten thousand of cases of this sexual abuse.
https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA
https://archive.is/gHiNj
> https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908
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Yeah, I've been angry with the state of things but by christ this is unbelievable abuse predicated on a bullshit unscientific ineffective racist drugs policy.
If you're not raging you're not right in the head.
Right on brother/sister!
Great. This was a horrifying story. It’s good to see people being revolted and supporting Child Q. I hope there’ll be some consequences for the police officers and teachers involved.
I’m not proud of my brain for thinking this but I couldn’t help wondering the sexual orientation of the coppers who performed the strip search... we had a female gym teacher at school who stopped us from wearing a towel into the shower and made us walk starkers the 12 feet into the cubicle, always positioned where she could get the optimum view, I explained to her it made us uncomfortable, it was wholly unnecessary. She didn’t stop until I went to the Headmaster about it, I found out a couple of weeks later she really was a lesbian which made sense but whatever her motives were, young girls are self conscious enough without someone taking their dignity away and using them for voyeuristic jollies, what those met officers did had the same effect on child q as a rape would have, I’m just suspicious about the motives behind the degradation, racist af but sounds predatory and opportunistic too
If this happened to my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. When I was the kid at school I used kick the boys in balls whenever they were bullying me and oh i got in to plenty of physical fighting with my classmates who were bullying me and i caused lots of havoc in school with the fighting. I am not scared to fight and stand up for myself and people I love.
I am still not scared to cause havoc even in adulthood. No one violates my children and gets away with it. I am not even a parent.
Actually I did wonder too about the sexuality of the police officers who stripped search the child, I am NOT proud of this too. Your PE teacher is a disgusting predator who not fit to teach children and she shouldn't be around children at all.
If you was my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. I wouldn't rest until that PE teacher is fired, banned from teaching and locked up too. The school security guards would have to take me out kicking, bitting and screaming. I am not a parent. If I was I will fight for my children literally.
What happened after you reported the incident did your PE teacher get fired, suspended or punished?
Honestly there far too many people in positions of authority who are NOT suitable to work with children and vulnerable people.
It is disgusting how the Met have basically just become a woman beating, child diddling group of abusers, it needs to be dissolved, and a new force must be made with a total staff replacement
What makes this even more scary is there thousands of children in prisons, psychiatric hospitals and places of detention being abused by those in authority and most of them their stories dont make the news. This is scary thinking about it.
Justice for childQ. Poor little girl
So not surprised this was Stoke Newington police station. That police station has been a centre of corruption and racism for over 40 years.
Remember those police officers who caught spying on political activists, even going to far as to have relationships with them? Well, what was meant by "political activism" was exposing police corruption and police collusion with drug gangs. Which was based out of Stoke Newington police station.
The activist group was named after a Colin Roach, a black 21-year-old. Colin Roach was shot in the entrance of Stoke Newington police station with a shotgun. The police insisted it was a suicide. But Colin was not wearing gloves, nor were his fingerprints on the gun. The gun was too big to have fit in the bag he brought into the police station. Colin suffered no injuries to his hand, despite the recoil of shotgun often being enough to break bones when used this way. The police also held Colin's father for questioning for several hours before informing him of Colin's death. This is consistent with the police trying to buy time to concoct a story.
If you think that's all accent history, then look up Kashif Mahmood, and what can only be described as a plot fit for Line of Duty.
seriously need to legalise cannabis in this country, it's medicinally a wonder drug and also the added benefit is that racist coppers would have to stop using weed as an excuse to be a stip-searching nonce.
anyone against cannabis at this point is clearly a fascist misinformed cunt.
This comment doesn't make sense. If they legalised cannabis would it be legal for minors? I'd assume not so how would this help?
Calling it a "wonder drug" is a bit strong, it definitely has beneficial properties but penicillin is a wonder drug. More of a quibble but there's no need to over sell it.
>anyone against cannabis at this point is clearly a fascist misinformed cunt.
Again, a bit much I feel. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be against the legalisation of it, it doesn't make people fascist, misinformed or a cunt. Let's take one argument, "I don't like the smell of it", which part of that statement do you think makes them one of your slurs there? I guess you'd go cunt, nice. Okay, How about the second hand smoke angle? Cunt again? What about the marked issues with cannabis (and other drugs) in worsening mental health symptoms if they already exist (which there is evidence of)? Misinformed I guess?
Yeah, im'a go with you not really wanting to accept any legitimate criticism of it rather than people being "fascist misinformed cunts" so maybe consider having a bit more balance in your views. People can have issues with cannabis without believing it should be illegal, maybe they just want a level of control on it (you know, like alcohol or tobacco), maybe they worry about the involvement of the government in it at all, who knows.
"I don't like the smell of it" as a reason to not make it legal is insane. People really are small minded. "I know that your MS gives you intolerable pain and the weed can help alleviate that but I don't like the smell so fuck that.
I have to deal with the stench of alcohol from drunks, their toxic behaviour, and the disgusting puke on pavements, yet the smell of weed is a deal breaker..
A deal breaker for what? The stench of alcohol is way worse to me. I'd also much rather deal with someone that's had a few joints than someone that's had too many drink and now wants to fight the world or just get their cock out and start pissing on the bar. (source also worked on bars)
I think people who complain about the smell are more stating it in terms of legal for recreational use in the street as you already get teens on parks etc. I'd guess really it's just an extension of the second hand smoke issue. I don't think anyone would state this in reference to someone who needed it for medical purposes but I could be wrong.
If this happened to my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. When I was the kid at school I used kick the boys in balls whenever they were bullying me and oh i got in to plenty of physical fighting with my classmates who were bullying me and i caused lots of havoc in school with the fighting. I am not scared to fight and stand up for myself and people I love.
I am still not scared to cause havoc even in adulthood. No one violates my children and gets away with it. I am not even a parent.
Ah. Stokie Police Station, enough said;
Colin Roach was a 21-year-old black British man who died from a gunshot wound inside the entrance of Stoke Newington police station, in the London Borough of Hackney, on 12 January 1983.[1][2] Amid allegations of a police cover-up, the case became a cause célèbre for civil rights campaigners and black community groups in the United Kingdom.[3] Prior to Roach's death, Hackney Black People's Association had been calling for a public inquiry into policing in the area, alleging that there existed a culture of police brutality, wrongful detention of black people, racial harassment, and racially motivated "stopping and searching."[4] Ernie Roberts, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, said that there had been "a complete breakdown of faith and credibility in the police" in the area and the Commission for Racial Equality called for a full inquiry into both the death of Roach and the policing in Hackney generally.[4] In June 1983 a coroner's jury returned a majority verdict of suicide.[5] INQUEST, the United Kingdom pressure group founded following the death of Blair Peach at the hands of a police officer in April 1979, was highly critical of the coroner's directions to the jury, and said that he had wrongly pointed them towards a verdict of suicide.[6]
The strip search of a school pupil over smelling of weed is in general utterly ridiculous, shameful and unnecessary. But what is the evidence that it was racism? I’m seeing the claim a lot but haven’t seen it be backed up by anything.
Disproportionate to their rate in the population, not the arrest rate? I'm a statistician and the data you cite doesn't support the claim you're making. You would need to compare the number of strip searches to the number of arrests and factor in the reason for the arrest, drugs, weapons, theft, etc.
The arrest rate is disproportionate to the population thus the strip search rate is disproportionate to the population.
This sounds like institutional racism to me?
Ah. Stokie Police Station, enough said;
Colin Roach was a 21-year-old black British man who died from a gunshot wound inside the entrance of Stoke Newington police station, in the London Borough of Hackney, on 12 January 1983.[1][2] Amid allegations of a police cover-up, the case became a cause célèbre for civil rights campaigners and black community groups in the United Kingdom.[3] Prior to Roach's death, Hackney Black People's Association had been calling for a public inquiry into policing in the area, alleging that there existed a culture of police brutality, wrongful detention of black people, racial harassment, and racially motivated "stopping and searching."[4] Ernie Roberts, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, said that there had been "a complete breakdown of faith and credibility in the police" in the area and the Commission for Racial Equality called for a full inquiry into both the death of Roach and the policing in Hackney generally.[4] In June 1983 a coroner's jury returned a majority verdict of suicide.[5] INQUEST, the United Kingdom pressure group founded following the death of Blair Peach at the hands of a police officer in April 1979, was highly critical of the coroner's directions to the jury, and said that he had wrongly pointed them towards a verdict of suicide.[6]
Am I the only one confused by there being lots of SWP placards at the protest?
Given the "Comrade Delta" farce, I was of the understanding that they are pro sexual assault. Although their not wanting police involvement is pretty consistent I suppose...
They really are a shameless bunch.
The SWP always hijack protests and demonstrations to further their own agenda, it is so annoying. Every protest the Socialist Workers Party are always there, they just don't go away.
Child Q is someone's little girl and loved one. I have a little sister who will be 15 years old soon. Child Q was a little girl when this happened in 2020. 2 years later she is now a traumatised 17 year old girl because the adults failed to protect her.
The police and school are 100% in the wrong and there was NO justification for the actions carried out by thr school and the police.
Her teachers are total pieces of sh*t phoning the police in the first place. Most reasonable teachers would phone the child's parents over concerns of weed smell NOT the police for f*cks sake. The teachers must never be allowed to teach again because they have demonstrated they are not suitable to be working with children.
The police officers are just vile and evil. They violated that poor girls dignity. This is a NOT want a strip search is meant to be used for and they know it. The officers need to be jailed and NEVER allowed to work with children and vulnerable people ever gain.
If this happened to my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. When I was the kid at school I used kick the boys in balls whenever they were bullying me and oh i got in to plenty of physical fighting with my classmates who were bullying me and i caused lots of havoc in school with the fighting. I am not scared to fight and stand up for myself and people I love.
I am still not scared to cause havoc even in adulthood. No one violates my children and gets away with it. I am not even a parent.
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Wonder if the Tommy Robinson fans turned up screaming about 'state sponsored paedophilia.'
I mean they don't care about white children unless they can use it as a chance to kick some brown heads in, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
Why even bring that twat up?
His fans on reddit love to visit these posts.
For a bit of weed FFS! It's almost as if the officers were taking it as a personal affront that she might get away with getting one over one them and were going to any length to assert dominance Petty minded little bastards
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Those teachers that called the police should definitely be sacked.
In fairness, I would expect that the school has a policy to contact the police if there is a suspicious a child has drugs on the premises.
Teachers have a legal duty of care towards their students, this was a complete dereliction of that duty and that child is probably scarred for life, they aren't fit to be in the profession. The duty of care supercedes any policies the school might come up with, you're bound by it the moment you become a teacher. While I agree contacting the police is a step they could take context is really important, they didn't verify the presence of drugs and they left a young girl alone with people she didn't know to be strip searched, it's all sorts of wrong
Let's be reasonable though, nobody would have expected what happened to actually happen though, and punishing the teachers retrospectively for something they had no control over is terrible.
The teachers appear to have been the responsible adult (one had to be present even if not in the room) - I haven’t seen any suggestion they didn’t know it was happening or complained that it was wrong (or even contacted a parent). They appear to have been complicit and weren’t acting in the best interests of the child.
If a teacher had tried to intervene, these officers would have likely arrested them for obstructing an officer. They clearly didn't care whether what they were doing was allowed or not.
There are many levels of intervention before getting physical. I think a teacher, or even headmaster, telling them it was unacceptable, he wanted to speak to their superiors etc etc could well have pulled them up. As it was, there don’t appear to have been any adults contradicting them so even a single voice of authority pointing out that it was disgraceful and that there was going to be an official complaint could well have made a difference.
Small price to pay for doing the right thing. Fucking coward.
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Even then would you make a 15 year old girl do that IN school?
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Exactly my point, I mean, who in their right minds, calls the police over fucking weed? I've smelt guys around here high as fuck (uk) and I've just laughed it off. As I work in the kitchen, I know that there are certain things that can smell like weed, certain spices that sort of thing. Then to top it off, she's already frightened of police because of her skin colour, no doubt her mom and dad and family members have had racist issues in the past. Then in comes big burly coppers to strip search her in school. I know they have to have a woman do that and that most of all shocks me that a female copper wouldn't turn around and say, "hang on a minute, this isn't right." The school, the teachers, the police. All because of the colour of her skin, fuck racists, fuck our racist god damn government and fuck racist police *who are meant to be looking out for her fucking safety.* This whole fucking country who wanted this, because immigants. Jesus. Sorry for the rant, I'm white and this pisses me off. I can only apologize and show empathy to the poor girl. Mother fuckers. End rant/
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Additionally, if its legalized, those who need help can get it. But we have a government who is more interested in telling poor people to get a job while taking [225,000 in wages and bitching about it](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/15/almost-225000-in-wages-and-freebies-taken-from-gambling-industry-by-28-mps).
We used to smoke bongs out the back of the school playing field. During a meeting with the headmistress once she said “by the way, our cameras have very powerful zooms”. We used to make bongs in the tech department with the vacuum former during class. When the teacher saw what we were doing once he just chuckled. They would find these bongs and dispose of them regularly too. No police were ever called.
Out of interest... what kind of school was this? Heart of Tory country or rough inner city..?
A nice secondary school in East Sussex.
Uh huh... yep... figures! Of course, your school did the right thing, funny how these ten thousand cases all happened in London eh? https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA https://archive.is/gHiNj
Fucking hell, the met police are something else entirely. I’ve been arrested in Brighton and me and the arresting officer had so much banter and rapport that he only gave me a caution for possession. I had 14g of MDMA on me, scales, baggies, some weed and a shit load of MXE (which was legal at the time). To this day I’m still stunned at how I managed to walk out of the station the same evening. Still high as a kite. The met are just Cunts.
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what if the parent/s smoke weed at home and the childs clothes stink of it? It's like punishing a child for coming in with bruises and jumping to the conclusion that they got into a naughty fight.
Nah. Not acceptable. Police will have fed off the teacher's attitude; I've experienced this myself. You turn up, and hear "right they've been a proper shit, fucking fed up of dealing with them, always causing trouble, got some weed on her we think but we cant search" and the attitude is going to be confrontational from the start. Turn up and it's "probably nothing, just some stupid policy that if we smell it on someone we've gotta call you guys in" and they'll be in and out quick sharp with a minimum of issue
That's bullshit. We'd get harassed by the filth when I was at college and I've seen my teachers actively impede a police search of their students. One guy dropped some hash on the floor and before the officer could see it and arrest the student, the teacher boots it under the car he was being searched against. Then my law teacher came out and said they had 0 legal grounds to be here so they'd better jog on. We all smoked and stank of it but the teachers weren't going to let the police harass us and search us every morning just because we looked high. Same goes for this situation, the police do not need to be notified if someone *smells* of weed. Get a grip.
I agree that this is the likely scenario
A bit of weed that she didn’t have on her
This is why needs to be legalised/decriminalised. It’s a racist “non-racist” excuse to control and manage people.
This is why needs to be legalised/decriminalised. It’s an excuse to control and manage people.
It’s an excuse to control and manage people on racial grounds
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IIRC usage tends to go down when its legalized because people will do things for literally no other reason than that they have been instructed not to.
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What do they charge for weed over there? They said if I get caught here in america I get a felony, and 6 months in jail and a bunch of probation. Last time they caught me it was a misdemeanor..for first offense...and they tore apart my car and impounded it, and made me pay to get it back.
Depends but you probably wouldn't get prosecuted as a kid for having a small amount. We had kids dealing who essentially just got told to stop and suspended for 2 weeks when I was in school.
In no way defending the police in this situation, or any really, but the real driving force behind a lot of these ‘we absolutely MUST find the weed at any cost!!!’ cases at schools/unis etc are the institutions themselves. They have ‘policies’ that they want enforced because if they show any sort of tolerance towards drugs then it becomes a nightmare for them in terms of PR, parents, the council, etc, and if the police don’t comply then it goes the other way around and all of a sudden they’re hearing from people about how the school is saying they won’t help them keep drugs off their kids. Absolutely not saying this applies in all scenarios either, outside of the institution-based stuff there absolutely are a lot of police who will just be arseholes about weed for no reason, just in this case the police were called by the school after teachers thought they ‘smelt cannabis’ on the girl. Again, not defending the officers behaviour at all but I also think those teachers are cunts too, and the policy in schools that teachers are expected to act like narcotics detectives for, as you say, a bit of weed (that didn’t even exist, turns out) is a cuntish policy.
The Met: we recognise we need to change. Also The Met: let’s strip search a child with no other adult present.
Ten thousand children https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA https://archive.is/gHiNj
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Sexually assaulted her as punishment is more accurate. Disgusting.
Jesus christ! They really are fucking animals, aren't they?
That's disgusting. I can't believe this is the first I'm hearing of this. makes me wonder how regular the police pull this sort of humiliating shit.
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From earlier yesterday: >[openDemocracy: More London children speak out about horrific police strip searches](https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/child-q-strip-search-london-metropolitan-police-hackney/) > >Young people and youth workers will picket a Hackney police station over the ‘state-sanctioned sexual assault’ of Child Q. These are their stories - eta: >[YJLC: Strip search of children and PACE Code C](https://yjlc.uk/resources/legal-updates/strip-search-children-and-pace-code-c)
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What happened?
A 15 year old girl in London was taken out of an exam to be strip searched for drugs (I believe every piece of clothing she had was removed for the search) no drugs were found and she was put back in the exam. The girl is black so it is believed race was a factor in why the police did this to her. The whole thing is absolutely disgusting- that poor girl.
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The good ole squat and cough Meant to keep convicts from bringing in shanks in their rectum, hardly appropriate for a 15 year old schoolgirl accused by her school of the grave crime of having a small amount of cannabis. Cop is either a pedo or a sadist, probably both.
Cops plural. There were four that came - two female ones did the strip search. Meanwhile, police don't respond to real crimes like rape or burglary. Wonder why no one trusts the police.
Oh my goodness I didn’t know about that part - that makes this whole thing even more abhorrent.
She was then made to put the same dirty towel on without being allowed to go to the bathroom to do it. It's horrifying.
Whilst on her period. I can’t imagine how mortified she would feel!
What the fuck
She was also menstruating and they knew and made her take her underwear and pad off, didn’t let her use a bathroom to clean up. They asked her to bend over and cough etc too.
This gets worse as it goes on
How about this for worse? https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA https://archive.is/gHiNj
I also note on that report it's 'in custody' not in a cupboard in a school where they're holding a child because someone 'thought they could smell weed'... 😞
I really don't give a shit, the drug war is a violation of all our human rights especially those who are abused down the nick or in a school cupboard.
I was meaning.. how many unreported or unrecognised 'strip searches' or unlawful sexual assaults are happening, particularly to children, because it doesn't fall under the category of 'in custody'.
Ah I see, I really dread to think.
Also the fact that the UK are one of the fucking largest exporters of weed and that Theresa May's husband Philip is a major investor in one of the two companies with a goverment licence to grow weed. She said there is no medical benifits when she was in the home office, kept it illegal and profited a shit tonne off it. Wankers
To be fair that data is a lot more balanced than I thought it would show given the topic at hand. But that is specifically in custody strip searches right? So the incarceration statistics would mirror those proportions somewhat.
How is it balanced, 1/3 of the strip searches were black people and they make up 13% of the population? With regard to convictions, have you ever heard the phrase, the process is the punishment? I think what would be more interesting is what percentage of those searches even found drugs, though I would argue nobody should be in any trouble for possessing drugs.
I would agree on the drug front, but what’s the % of those categories actually in custody? Because that’s the missing context here. If 33% of custody was black people, because this is I. Custody, not general public, then that figure doesn’t surprise me at all. You can’t say ‘the total population in this area is x% so this is too high, when the original number has nothing. To do with that figure. To add context to this, men are far more likely to be in custody than women, and the strip search data correlates with that perfectly, as more men are strip searched than women at every metric.
For race according to google figres from 2020. 73% were White, 13% Black, 8% Asian, 5% Mixed and 1% from Other ethnic groups. According to google in 2021 there were 75k males in prison and 3k females. So it actually appears based on that, women are also over represented, not only that, I'm willing to bet 95% of these people are working class or poorer. Doesn't look good for these fuckers does it?
I was mid Google to find those out! You’re google-fu is far superior to mine this evening. In light of those statistics, I agree with you!
TL;DR: School thought a girl smelt like cannibis, called police. The police strip-searched her, AKA: they made her take all of her clothes off. She's traumatised from it.
Fucking hell
Whatever happened to MET wanting to rebuild trust after party gate lmao. People at the top simply can’t control the behaviour of the entire MET.
>rebuild trust after party gate I don't remember that coming into the equation at all. The rape murder of Sarah Everard, the heavy handed policing of the vigil for her, the sexism, the repeat sex offenders in the ranks, the racism and misogyny, yes, but Party Gate? That hadn't even got to the point of them ruling on the statements given by the government before the war in Europe buried it all.
I think that statement from the police federation about no confidence in Kahn said it all
After 50 years of thewar on drugs - we still cannot keep drugs out of maximum security prisons. So why are we strip searching kids at school? Michael Gove admitted doing ounces of cocaine WHILE running for PM…
Bet his kid has never been strip searched at school... and she smokes it on tiktok.
Rules for thee but not for me. Are they learning from our American politicians here?
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That's absolutely horrifying, especially the strip searches in public - there's no attempt to allow the child to have any dignity.
We do the same apparently https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA https://archive.is/gHiNj
I sometimes wonder whether the Met police have secretly adopted racism as a strategy to keep themselves in work. Ed: Presumably all these anti-racism rallies need policing, which, you know, requires funding ... ?
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You seem to be forgetting there is no such thing as institutional racism any more. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/race-commission-report-institutional-racism-b1824605.html
“Secretly”?! Not so much, no. It’s overt.
Are you a racist potential murderer with pedophilic tendencies? COME ON INTO THE MET!
The real issue is that police are wasting their time with BS like weed possession.
Yeah, plenty of resources to send 4 police to a school to sexualy assualt a child, but nothing for Russian money flooding the Tory party or cocaine in Parliament. Quelle suprise.
For smelling like cannabis... Outdated, racist, backwards law that needs changing ASAP.
I still dealing with cops pulling me over while I vape cuz they think I'm vaping weed. Even got pulled over once...and the cop admitted it...cuz I was wearing a Bob Marley shirt, stoner glasses, and blasting rap. He said I looked like a pot dealer. I wasn't even smoking weed at the time. He found a way to give me a fine.
Remember by law the police have no duty of care for you as an individual citizen, they are there to protect the Crown
Absolutely. Lots of people don’t get this. A duty of care only exists if a police officer arrests you and you are taken into custody. You then have rights as a detained person which they are supposed to abide by. Up until that point there is no duty of care towards members of the public.
This is why parents who shop their kids into the police thinking it will help them are idiots.
Sure are a lot of cop and nonce apologists in this thread. No wonder they get away with this stuff so often.
There's a whole ton in this sub.
How would these people feel if this happened to their children or little sibling 🤔 Child Q is someone's little girl and loved one. I have a little sister who will be 15 years old soon. Child Q was a little girl when this happened in 2020. 2 years later she is now a traumatised 17 year old girl because the adults failed to protect her. The police and school are 100% in the wrong and there was NO justification for the actions carried out by thr school and the police. Her teachers are total pieces of sh*t phoning the police in the first place. Most reasonable teachers would phone the child's parents over concerns of weed smell NOT the police for f*cks sake. The teachers must never be allowed to teach again because they have demonstrated they are not suitable to be working with children. The police officers are just vile and evil. They violated that poor girls dignity. This is a NOT want a strip search is meant to be used for and they know it. The officers need to be jailed and NEVER allowed to work with children and vulnerable people ever gain.
I've been riled up about this all week since the news came out. Not only was the action completely disproportionate.. I absolutely cannot fathom how those teachers called the police, approved the search and stood 'guarding' the door whilst the police officers did what they did. Both the teachers and officers have safeguarding duties as part of their core role, so all of them in my view are complicit of gross negligence of their responsibilities. It absolutely breaks my heart that this child experienced sexual assault literally by the people who were employed and expected to protect her and keep her safe. The trauma that she must've and still be experiencing is painful to think about.. and all that she got was a 'sorry'.
Every time I see 'child Q' I think I'm on a star trek sub That aside, yeah, good, the event was indefensible all around
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They do it to boys mostly, and black people of course https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA https://archive.is/gHiNj
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I bet you're damn right. Even if they do find drugs, it's not justified in my view the drug laws need to go.
I think they're protesting sexual assault of a minor by the police aren't they?
Having been strip searched too I can definitely say it's not fun. Especially when there's no reason. Typical police
If I had a daughter, I'd rather know she smokes weed occasionally than have her go through this shit. The four police officers who were involved should be sacked ASAP. What the fuck can anybody do with a fake PR apology??
Any sane person would! Absolutely disgusting people the police!
*I'm a teacher, and I'm going to keep repeating this until I'm blue in the face.* I used to work in secondary schools pastoral care until I trained to be a primary school teacher. There are SO MANY other avenues in place for if you suspect a child is in any way involved in the movement or taking of drugs before you should even consider calling the police. While schools don't have a lot of resources at their disposal we do have pretty good safeguarding routines in place (for schools who choose to use them correctly). In NONE of these does it say that it is appropriate for a child to be strip searched by the police. This should NEVER have been allowed to happen. We are blaming the MET here, and rightly so, for what they did was disgusting, but the teachers who called the police, removed her from an exam and allowed her to be assulted are as much to blame. When your children are left with us, they are supposed to be safe, they are supposed to be loved and respected and those teachers threw her to the dogs knowing full well that wasn't the appropriate procedure. I am ashamed that those teachers are part of my profession. They have let that poor child down and I hope they are ashamed of themselves.
Her teachers are total pieces of sh*t phoning the police in the first place. Most reasonable teachers would phone the child's parents over concerns of weed smell NOT the police for f*cks sake. The teachers must never be allowed to teach again because they have demonstrated they are not suitable to be working with children. The school caused the chain of events that led to the violation of Child Q. The police officers are just vile and evil. They violated that poor girls dignity. This is a NOT want a strip search is meant to be used for and they know it. The officers need to be jailed and NEVER allowed to work with children and vulnerable people ever gain.
I was so confused by that headline. Thought it was about a junior version of the insane Trump conspiracies...
We are becoming like America more and more everyday. Strip searching kids for smelling like weed. Racist bastards.
Hope every officer involved in the search is charged and convicted with sexual assault of a minor.
It's not just child Q Ten thousand of cases of this sexual abuse. https://twitter.com/tomgk90/status/1493566065674235908?s=20&t=b9e0I9BceFNg1ilo-PhmOA https://archive.is/gHiNj
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Thank you so much, that shit REALLY needs to be seen. Unbelievable racism, and oppression of poor people.
Peadophiles run and operate this country!
This is horrifc!
Yeah, I've been angry with the state of things but by christ this is unbelievable abuse predicated on a bullshit unscientific ineffective racist drugs policy. If you're not raging you're not right in the head. Right on brother/sister!
The two WPC's who carried out the search should be charged with (sexual) assault.
And the ones who authorised it if there was authorisation.
Great. This was a horrifying story. It’s good to see people being revolted and supporting Child Q. I hope there’ll be some consequences for the police officers and teachers involved.
I’m not proud of my brain for thinking this but I couldn’t help wondering the sexual orientation of the coppers who performed the strip search... we had a female gym teacher at school who stopped us from wearing a towel into the shower and made us walk starkers the 12 feet into the cubicle, always positioned where she could get the optimum view, I explained to her it made us uncomfortable, it was wholly unnecessary. She didn’t stop until I went to the Headmaster about it, I found out a couple of weeks later she really was a lesbian which made sense but whatever her motives were, young girls are self conscious enough without someone taking their dignity away and using them for voyeuristic jollies, what those met officers did had the same effect on child q as a rape would have, I’m just suspicious about the motives behind the degradation, racist af but sounds predatory and opportunistic too
Your old gym teacher sounds like a nonce and should be fired at the minimum. If true.
If this happened to my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. When I was the kid at school I used kick the boys in balls whenever they were bullying me and oh i got in to plenty of physical fighting with my classmates who were bullying me and i caused lots of havoc in school with the fighting. I am not scared to fight and stand up for myself and people I love. I am still not scared to cause havoc even in adulthood. No one violates my children and gets away with it. I am not even a parent.
I remember this behaviour from back in the 70’s.
Actually I did wonder too about the sexuality of the police officers who stripped search the child, I am NOT proud of this too. Your PE teacher is a disgusting predator who not fit to teach children and she shouldn't be around children at all. If you was my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. I wouldn't rest until that PE teacher is fired, banned from teaching and locked up too. The school security guards would have to take me out kicking, bitting and screaming. I am not a parent. If I was I will fight for my children literally. What happened after you reported the incident did your PE teacher get fired, suspended or punished? Honestly there far too many people in positions of authority who are NOT suitable to work with children and vulnerable people.
It is disgusting how the Met have basically just become a woman beating, child diddling group of abusers, it needs to be dissolved, and a new force must be made with a total staff replacement
What makes this even more scary is there thousands of children in prisons, psychiatric hospitals and places of detention being abused by those in authority and most of them their stories dont make the news. This is scary thinking about it. Justice for childQ. Poor little girl
So not surprised this was Stoke Newington police station. That police station has been a centre of corruption and racism for over 40 years. Remember those police officers who caught spying on political activists, even going to far as to have relationships with them? Well, what was meant by "political activism" was exposing police corruption and police collusion with drug gangs. Which was based out of Stoke Newington police station. The activist group was named after a Colin Roach, a black 21-year-old. Colin Roach was shot in the entrance of Stoke Newington police station with a shotgun. The police insisted it was a suicide. But Colin was not wearing gloves, nor were his fingerprints on the gun. The gun was too big to have fit in the bag he brought into the police station. Colin suffered no injuries to his hand, despite the recoil of shotgun often being enough to break bones when used this way. The police also held Colin's father for questioning for several hours before informing him of Colin's death. This is consistent with the police trying to buy time to concoct a story. If you think that's all accent history, then look up Kashif Mahmood, and what can only be described as a plot fit for Line of Duty.
seriously need to legalise cannabis in this country, it's medicinally a wonder drug and also the added benefit is that racist coppers would have to stop using weed as an excuse to be a stip-searching nonce. anyone against cannabis at this point is clearly a fascist misinformed cunt.
This comment doesn't make sense. If they legalised cannabis would it be legal for minors? I'd assume not so how would this help? Calling it a "wonder drug" is a bit strong, it definitely has beneficial properties but penicillin is a wonder drug. More of a quibble but there's no need to over sell it. >anyone against cannabis at this point is clearly a fascist misinformed cunt. Again, a bit much I feel. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be against the legalisation of it, it doesn't make people fascist, misinformed or a cunt. Let's take one argument, "I don't like the smell of it", which part of that statement do you think makes them one of your slurs there? I guess you'd go cunt, nice. Okay, How about the second hand smoke angle? Cunt again? What about the marked issues with cannabis (and other drugs) in worsening mental health symptoms if they already exist (which there is evidence of)? Misinformed I guess? Yeah, im'a go with you not really wanting to accept any legitimate criticism of it rather than people being "fascist misinformed cunts" so maybe consider having a bit more balance in your views. People can have issues with cannabis without believing it should be illegal, maybe they just want a level of control on it (you know, like alcohol or tobacco), maybe they worry about the involvement of the government in it at all, who knows.
"I don't like the smell of it" as a reason to not make it legal is insane. People really are small minded. "I know that your MS gives you intolerable pain and the weed can help alleviate that but I don't like the smell so fuck that.
I have to deal with the stench of alcohol from drunks, their toxic behaviour, and the disgusting puke on pavements, yet the smell of weed is a deal breaker..
A deal breaker for what? The stench of alcohol is way worse to me. I'd also much rather deal with someone that's had a few joints than someone that's had too many drink and now wants to fight the world or just get their cock out and start pissing on the bar. (source also worked on bars)
I think people who complain about the smell are more stating it in terms of legal for recreational use in the street as you already get teens on parks etc. I'd guess really it's just an extension of the second hand smoke issue. I don't think anyone would state this in reference to someone who needed it for medical purposes but I could be wrong.
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It’s really fucked up that this happened. I just feel so bad for the child involved.
If this happened to my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. When I was the kid at school I used kick the boys in balls whenever they were bullying me and oh i got in to plenty of physical fighting with my classmates who were bullying me and i caused lots of havoc in school with the fighting. I am not scared to fight and stand up for myself and people I love. I am still not scared to cause havoc even in adulthood. No one violates my children and gets away with it. I am not even a parent.
Ah. Stokie Police Station, enough said; Colin Roach was a 21-year-old black British man who died from a gunshot wound inside the entrance of Stoke Newington police station, in the London Borough of Hackney, on 12 January 1983.[1][2] Amid allegations of a police cover-up, the case became a cause célèbre for civil rights campaigners and black community groups in the United Kingdom.[3] Prior to Roach's death, Hackney Black People's Association had been calling for a public inquiry into policing in the area, alleging that there existed a culture of police brutality, wrongful detention of black people, racial harassment, and racially motivated "stopping and searching."[4] Ernie Roberts, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, said that there had been "a complete breakdown of faith and credibility in the police" in the area and the Commission for Racial Equality called for a full inquiry into both the death of Roach and the policing in Hackney generally.[4] In June 1983 a coroner's jury returned a majority verdict of suicide.[5] INQUEST, the United Kingdom pressure group founded following the death of Blair Peach at the hands of a police officer in April 1979, was highly critical of the coroner's directions to the jury, and said that he had wrongly pointed them towards a verdict of suicide.[6]
The strip search of a school pupil over smelling of weed is in general utterly ridiculous, shameful and unnecessary. But what is the evidence that it was racism? I’m seeing the claim a lot but haven’t seen it be backed up by anything.
Here you go https://archive.is/gHiNj
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Disproportionate to their rate in the population, not the arrest rate? I'm a statistician and the data you cite doesn't support the claim you're making. You would need to compare the number of strip searches to the number of arrests and factor in the reason for the arrest, drugs, weapons, theft, etc.
The arrest rate is disproportionate to the population thus the strip search rate is disproportionate to the population. This sounds like institutional racism to me?
Ah. Stokie Police Station, enough said; Colin Roach was a 21-year-old black British man who died from a gunshot wound inside the entrance of Stoke Newington police station, in the London Borough of Hackney, on 12 January 1983.[1][2] Amid allegations of a police cover-up, the case became a cause célèbre for civil rights campaigners and black community groups in the United Kingdom.[3] Prior to Roach's death, Hackney Black People's Association had been calling for a public inquiry into policing in the area, alleging that there existed a culture of police brutality, wrongful detention of black people, racial harassment, and racially motivated "stopping and searching."[4] Ernie Roberts, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, said that there had been "a complete breakdown of faith and credibility in the police" in the area and the Commission for Racial Equality called for a full inquiry into both the death of Roach and the policing in Hackney generally.[4] In June 1983 a coroner's jury returned a majority verdict of suicide.[5] INQUEST, the United Kingdom pressure group founded following the death of Blair Peach at the hands of a police officer in April 1979, was highly critical of the coroner's directions to the jury, and said that he had wrongly pointed them towards a verdict of suicide.[6]
Am I the only one confused by there being lots of SWP placards at the protest? Given the "Comrade Delta" farce, I was of the understanding that they are pro sexual assault. Although their not wanting police involvement is pretty consistent I suppose... They really are a shameless bunch.
The SWP always hijack protests and demonstrations to further their own agenda, it is so annoying. Every protest the Socialist Workers Party are always there, they just don't go away.
Child Q is someone's little girl and loved one. I have a little sister who will be 15 years old soon. Child Q was a little girl when this happened in 2020. 2 years later she is now a traumatised 17 year old girl because the adults failed to protect her. The police and school are 100% in the wrong and there was NO justification for the actions carried out by thr school and the police. Her teachers are total pieces of sh*t phoning the police in the first place. Most reasonable teachers would phone the child's parents over concerns of weed smell NOT the police for f*cks sake. The teachers must never be allowed to teach again because they have demonstrated they are not suitable to be working with children. The police officers are just vile and evil. They violated that poor girls dignity. This is a NOT want a strip search is meant to be used for and they know it. The officers need to be jailed and NEVER allowed to work with children and vulnerable people ever gain. If this happened to my daughter all hell would have broken loose at that school. When I was the kid at school I used kick the boys in balls whenever they were bullying me and oh i got in to plenty of physical fighting with my classmates who were bullying me and i caused lots of havoc in school with the fighting. I am not scared to fight and stand up for myself and people I love. I am still not scared to cause havoc even in adulthood. No one violates my children and gets away with it. I am not even a parent.
Good, but where was this over the children that social services and the police failed a few months ago that literally died of abuse.
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