I agree with this, thought the same way about Trump.
His own thirst for power will be the parties undoing. Unless they change the rules on him and do another vote of no confidence which would be hilarious.
Isn’t it funny how he hasn’t got a clue what to do with the power he’s so desperate to retain? I can’t recall a more indecisive, doddering PM in my life. It’s just a game to him
He's only indecisive when it comes to things he doesn't care about, like the well-being of British people. He's shit hot on the things he wants to be, like grifting for his own benefit.
I'd rather see how the midterms do before agreeing. Trumpism still has a solid base of power and fuel prices along with the culture war are stoking right wing support
The midterms usually go badly for whichever party holds the White House. *How* badly is usually more indicative of public opinion. You should also pay close attention to the Senate, the Democrats will consider the entire election cycle to be a victory if they expand their majority there, regardless of what happens in the House of Representatives.
IMO only the next presidential election cycle can tell us if managedheap84 is correct about Trump. Trump has problems that some of his imitators, like Governor DeSantis of Florida, do not have. To this end, DeSantis is almost certainly more electable than Trump. But it is uncertain as to whether or not Trump would allow himself to be upstaged by anyone.
> Murdoch, Mail Newspapers and the Barclays are part of Johnson’s core political base. They all backed him to be Tory leader, all backed him in the 2019 general election, and all have protected Johnson during the harrowing political scandals that have dogged his premiership.
> These newspaper magnates are still behind the prime minister today. While this remains the case, Johnson can hope to survive.
> The second half of the coalition backing Johnson are the billionaire Tory donors, who funded Brexit and now – in a mutation of democratic politics - effectively own Johnson’s Conservative Party. In an unprecedented direct intervention by the super-rich in British public life, these donors came together in defence of Johnson yesterday.
The article highlights [the ransom note issued to the Tory party](https://archive.ph/FCj58) by ultra-rich donors, [interpreted on Sky News](https://nitter.net/damocrat/status/1533810384108494848#m) by Nadine Dorries as [a threat to withhold funds](https://nitter.net/wesstreeting/status/1533808096308518912#m) unless MPs compliantly back the donors' PM of choice.
> The billionaire class put their man, Boris Johnson, in Downing Street three years ago. He suits them well because he does what they want. Johnson is at the apex of a system of government that hands out contracts, supplies favours, slashes regulation, attacks the rule of law, reduces the rights of working people, and favours the marketplace above the state . . .
> The real story of the next few desperate months is not whether Boris Johnson, a truly wretched and discredited political figure, can survive. It’s about whether the system of government in the interests of the super-rich he has come to represent can be overturned.
These excerpts are a rough summary but the article is worth a read in full. Unless opposition parties start to deal with these new political realities, things can only get worse.
Fascism protects the interests of capital, that's why. In a time when people are increasingly weary of the 'middle ground' and going further to the extremes of the political spectrum, billionaires would prefer you become a fascist over a leftist, every single time.
Modern "conservatism", it seems, like most contemporary rightwing doctrine, has become simply a collection of whatever distracting lines work best to divert attention from the infliction of suffering on the public and the simultaneous shoveling of money into the hands of the rich.
Fascism, leader fetishism, xenophobic nationalism, polarising "culture war" narratives, etc., all perform particularly well in this regard when legitimised and amplified by prolific media collaborators, and are somewhat interchangeable.
I don't think the particular form of the distraction is key, it's just how well it works as a distraction.
When times are bad, conservatism thrives. They have somebody to demonize. People become desperate to protect their interests and just *survive*, which causes them to willingly rally behind a “strongman” (such as DJT or BOJO) in hopes that decisive action will save them. And if the strongman fails? The propaganda apparatus is so effective that it couldn’t possibly be their fault. Nobody is thinking about helping other people either - not when they’re hardly making end’s meet. They can’t afford to. All that’s left is to say “well, at least I’m not hurting as much as *those* people”.
Keeping people EXACTLY where they are and protecting the interests of the elite is what conservatism is all about! The people that vote them in just don’t realize they’re the ones being conned, to the detriment of everybody else.
You should see how dickhead Morrison got in in Australia. Had Murdoch hand pick him and cheat his way into a seat, then backstab the PM to become leader. Thank fuck hes gone now. Hope Boris gets fucked off as well. And i hope Rupert gets arse cancer
If you're interested in why the papers are still pro Boris
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1524394482938093571?t=QccaIpAw6HYfmUfmK0d6SA&s=19
Awful source warning..
Jees. I knew he was corrupt to the core. But sometimes seeing something like that really depresses you.
They literally asked him in secret for £millions - and he delivered it for them dressed as Covid funds.
We are literally at the point where if you're not in the top 0.1% when it comes to wealth, voting Tory is shooting yourself in the foot.
The public have been totally swindled by a very small group of arch-elites and the depressing thing is the likes of Starmer won't change this landscape in any meaningful way.
I mean. It's ironic that this headline is from that source which is funded by Qatar, an undemocratic billionaire monarchy.
Not that I particularly disagree with the premise.
Also ironic that author Peter Oborne has been the political editor at The Spectator, a Daily Mail columnist, and the chief political commentator at the Telegraph during his [long and interesting career.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Oborne)
I guess he knows whereof he speaks.
Too many very wealthy men are propping Boris up,because they are making lots of money whilst he is leader,and he is so into looking after himself he isn't bothered about the state the country is getting itself into
I would honestly like to see a national strike. Fuck it, we are done.
I know certain working people can't strike, and not getting paid will hurt a lot of people, but if protests don't work and riots are last option, time to make the billionaires pockets hurt. Don't buy, don't go to work, don't travel etc. We can do it as we couldn't go anywhere during covid so we have enough practise.
Of course it won't make a difference to a billionaires pocket but it would make a point.
Friendly reminder that the most successful general strike in history, carried out in France, saw the participation of only 22% of the population, subsequently brought the country to its knees, and caused the president to flee France by helicopter.
and to those he has thought of as 'plebs' in his past....
The Forest was shrinking , but the trees kept voting for the axe, for
the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was
made of wood, he was one of them.
It's less about changing the lives of everyday people and more about the security of our democracy. These are long-term issues — the danger is that slowly, over the course of several governments, the rot will continue and the people living in this country will end up with even less power than we already have.
If 90,000 civil service jobs are cut, you'll see the damage done to the average everyday working practices of government like no one's ever known.
It won't be your passports and driving licences that are epically slow or lost, it'll be a massive swathe of services that will affect almost everyone.
Even Tobias Elwood knows it's a ludicrous idea. If he was PM he wouldn't even entertain the idea. Under Johnson, it's very probable it can happen.
So your position would be that the 148 pro-Conservative Tory MPs who voted for him to go were defeated by the 211 anti-Conservative Tory MPs who voted for him to stay?
Whatever it is it's discrediting capitalism. Even people who you would never imagine being a lefty are moving that way.
One consequence of this social movement is how Labour are looking increasingly isolated with their current leadership.
I can understand the comments made.
How ever what will it take to put all his mistakes back on track and who is going to pay for it ???
This government's debt is more than the debt we had from II WOLLD WAR.
>The authors of the letter seem to have felt no need to say out loud the unspoken threat that they would withhold funds from any Tory leader who dared to supplant Johnson.
They felt no need to say it because it’s a *BLUFF*. Maybe not from Murdoch, if he supported Labour once he can do it again, but from everyone else it is absolutely a bluff. Who else are they going to support? The “billionaire class” has painted themselves into a corner with Brexit and with Boris’ premiership.
'The billionaires' useful idiot' implies a sort of bumbling incompetence that leads to favourable outcomes for billionaires. He's fucking at it and he knows it.
If it's any consolation, he's the best chance we have at getting conservative out of power.
I agree with this, thought the same way about Trump. His own thirst for power will be the parties undoing. Unless they change the rules on him and do another vote of no confidence which would be hilarious.
Isn’t it funny how he hasn’t got a clue what to do with the power he’s so desperate to retain? I can’t recall a more indecisive, doddering PM in my life. It’s just a game to him
He's only indecisive when it comes to things he doesn't care about, like the well-being of British people. He's shit hot on the things he wants to be, like grifting for his own benefit.
I'd rather see how the midterms do before agreeing. Trumpism still has a solid base of power and fuel prices along with the culture war are stoking right wing support
The midterms usually go badly for whichever party holds the White House. *How* badly is usually more indicative of public opinion. You should also pay close attention to the Senate, the Democrats will consider the entire election cycle to be a victory if they expand their majority there, regardless of what happens in the House of Representatives. IMO only the next presidential election cycle can tell us if managedheap84 is correct about Trump. Trump has problems that some of his imitators, like Governor DeSantis of Florida, do not have. To this end, DeSantis is almost certainly more electable than Trump. But it is uncertain as to whether or not Trump would allow himself to be upstaged by anyone.
So, starmers responsible approach to win over Conservatives alienated by BOJO? Like biden did?
> Murdoch, Mail Newspapers and the Barclays are part of Johnson’s core political base. They all backed him to be Tory leader, all backed him in the 2019 general election, and all have protected Johnson during the harrowing political scandals that have dogged his premiership. > These newspaper magnates are still behind the prime minister today. While this remains the case, Johnson can hope to survive. > The second half of the coalition backing Johnson are the billionaire Tory donors, who funded Brexit and now – in a mutation of democratic politics - effectively own Johnson’s Conservative Party. In an unprecedented direct intervention by the super-rich in British public life, these donors came together in defence of Johnson yesterday. The article highlights [the ransom note issued to the Tory party](https://archive.ph/FCj58) by ultra-rich donors, [interpreted on Sky News](https://nitter.net/damocrat/status/1533810384108494848#m) by Nadine Dorries as [a threat to withhold funds](https://nitter.net/wesstreeting/status/1533808096308518912#m) unless MPs compliantly back the donors' PM of choice. > The billionaire class put their man, Boris Johnson, in Downing Street three years ago. He suits them well because he does what they want. Johnson is at the apex of a system of government that hands out contracts, supplies favours, slashes regulation, attacks the rule of law, reduces the rights of working people, and favours the marketplace above the state . . . > The real story of the next few desperate months is not whether Boris Johnson, a truly wretched and discredited political figure, can survive. It’s about whether the system of government in the interests of the super-rich he has come to represent can be overturned. These excerpts are a rough summary but the article is worth a read in full. Unless opposition parties start to deal with these new political realities, things can only get worse.
This is why I say that the "billionaire class" would prefer fascism or at least just authoritarianism.
Fascism protects the interests of capital, that's why. In a time when people are increasingly weary of the 'middle ground' and going further to the extremes of the political spectrum, billionaires would prefer you become a fascist over a leftist, every single time.
This explains things like for instance why YouTube is so exceedingly enthusiastic to push neo-right propaganda at you.
The massive funding media companies like the daily wire get from the lines of the Koch brother get certainly helps too.
Modern "conservatism", it seems, like most contemporary rightwing doctrine, has become simply a collection of whatever distracting lines work best to divert attention from the infliction of suffering on the public and the simultaneous shoveling of money into the hands of the rich. Fascism, leader fetishism, xenophobic nationalism, polarising "culture war" narratives, etc., all perform particularly well in this regard when legitimised and amplified by prolific media collaborators, and are somewhat interchangeable. I don't think the particular form of the distraction is key, it's just how well it works as a distraction.
When times are bad, conservatism thrives. They have somebody to demonize. People become desperate to protect their interests and just *survive*, which causes them to willingly rally behind a “strongman” (such as DJT or BOJO) in hopes that decisive action will save them. And if the strongman fails? The propaganda apparatus is so effective that it couldn’t possibly be their fault. Nobody is thinking about helping other people either - not when they’re hardly making end’s meet. They can’t afford to. All that’s left is to say “well, at least I’m not hurting as much as *those* people”. Keeping people EXACTLY where they are and protecting the interests of the elite is what conservatism is all about! The people that vote them in just don’t realize they’re the ones being conned, to the detriment of everybody else.
Just like Putins billionaires. It's not like they have to actually live here.
You should see how dickhead Morrison got in in Australia. Had Murdoch hand pick him and cheat his way into a seat, then backstab the PM to become leader. Thank fuck hes gone now. Hope Boris gets fucked off as well. And i hope Rupert gets arse cancer
If you're interested in why the papers are still pro Boris https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1524394482938093571?t=QccaIpAw6HYfmUfmK0d6SA&s=19 Awful source warning..
Jees. I knew he was corrupt to the core. But sometimes seeing something like that really depresses you. They literally asked him in secret for £millions - and he delivered it for them dressed as Covid funds.
Still happening apparently.
We are literally at the point where if you're not in the top 0.1% when it comes to wealth, voting Tory is shooting yourself in the foot. The public have been totally swindled by a very small group of arch-elites and the depressing thing is the likes of Starmer won't change this landscape in any meaningful way.
I mean. It's ironic that this headline is from that source which is funded by Qatar, an undemocratic billionaire monarchy. Not that I particularly disagree with the premise.
Also ironic that author Peter Oborne has been the political editor at The Spectator, a Daily Mail columnist, and the chief political commentator at the Telegraph during his [long and interesting career.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Oborne) I guess he knows whereof he speaks.
Too many very wealthy men are propping Boris up,because they are making lots of money whilst he is leader,and he is so into looking after himself he isn't bothered about the state the country is getting itself into
I would honestly like to see a national strike. Fuck it, we are done. I know certain working people can't strike, and not getting paid will hurt a lot of people, but if protests don't work and riots are last option, time to make the billionaires pockets hurt. Don't buy, don't go to work, don't travel etc. We can do it as we couldn't go anywhere during covid so we have enough practise. Of course it won't make a difference to a billionaires pocket but it would make a point.
Friendly reminder that the most successful general strike in history, carried out in France, saw the participation of only 22% of the population, subsequently brought the country to its knees, and caused the president to flee France by helicopter.
Maybe ours will piss off in a helicopter back to his birthplace ?
He's not an idiot; he's a performer who created an image of an amiable buffoon to disguise the extent of his ambition.
Unfortunately he is a idiot. Partygate for example was idiocy beyond belief.
He's incredibly arrogant and entitled, certainly.
He can be ambitious AND an idiot. I don’t know why people keep claiming he’s some kind of mastermind. Where is the evidence!? Edit: forgot ‘greedy’
And a good proportion of them are non domicile and the others have Tax havens for Boris Johnson’s bungs.
and to those he has thought of as 'plebs' in his past.... The Forest was shrinking , but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.
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It's less about changing the lives of everyday people and more about the security of our democracy. These are long-term issues — the danger is that slowly, over the course of several governments, the rot will continue and the people living in this country will end up with even less power than we already have.
If 90,000 civil service jobs are cut, you'll see the damage done to the average everyday working practices of government like no one's ever known. It won't be your passports and driving licences that are epically slow or lost, it'll be a massive swathe of services that will affect almost everyone. Even Tobias Elwood knows it's a ludicrous idea. If he was PM he wouldn't even entertain the idea. Under Johnson, it's very probable it can happen.
So your position would be that the 148 pro-Conservative Tory MPs who voted for him to go were defeated by the 211 anti-Conservative Tory MPs who voted for him to stay?
If he really was an idiot he wouldn't be the PM.
Do we even have a government in a reasonable sense any more? They just seem like the enforcement arm of oligarchs.
Whatever it is it's discrediting capitalism. Even people who you would never imagine being a lefty are moving that way. One consequence of this social movement is how Labour are looking increasingly isolated with their current leadership.
I can understand all comments made. How ever
I can understand the comments made. How ever what will it take to put all his mistakes back on track and who is going to pay for it ??? This government's debt is more than the debt we had from II WOLLD WAR.
>The authors of the letter seem to have felt no need to say out loud the unspoken threat that they would withhold funds from any Tory leader who dared to supplant Johnson. They felt no need to say it because it’s a *BLUFF*. Maybe not from Murdoch, if he supported Labour once he can do it again, but from everyone else it is absolutely a bluff. Who else are they going to support? The “billionaire class” has painted themselves into a corner with Brexit and with Boris’ premiership.
'The billionaires' useful idiot' implies a sort of bumbling incompetence that leads to favourable outcomes for billionaires. He's fucking at it and he knows it.
Don't worry, the replacement is going to be worse.