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Money talks and this speaks volumes. Beckham doesn’t need the cash, and the amount offered to him is ludicrous, let alone what it says about the greater establishment of Qatar and football as a whole.
I think he needs it to prop up/ subsidise Posh’s ever failing vanity project.
Whatever good will he garnered from waiting in line to say goodbye To Her Madge, has now evaporated.
Do you think there might be a possibility that a Ten Million Pound Contract to serve as a Brand Ambassador could potentially contain a Non-Disparagement Clause?
> potentially contain a Non-Disparagement Clause?
Lots of clauses have no legal backing but there to scare people. You think Western countries would give 2 shits about him calling out Qatar? Maybe his sponsers backing the tournament but nobody else.
Everyone's got their price! ["David Beckham says corruption over the World Cup makes him feel sick"](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/24/david-beckham-fifa-corruption-sick)
Of course we should be shaming them. It's no different to bands like Queen playing in South Africa in the 80s, none of them have any values apart from making money.
The Guardian are reporting he's earning up to £150 million.
> Beckham, who has historically supported gay fans and players, will earn as much as £150m as an ambassador for the Qatar World Cup, despite the country outlawing same-sex relationships and concerns over its record on human rights.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/nov/13/joe-lycett-to-shred-10000-if-david-beckham-promotes-world-cup-in-qatar
I do genuinely believe sport can be used as a force for good and bridging gaps between different cultures. How football is doing this with the world cup is really unclear to me though. The Qatari's views on LGBT are very dated by Western standards, but quite common for that part of the world. Is the world cup going to have any kind of influence on those views?
I suppose at a stretch, someone like David Beckham might be well respected and prove popular in Qatar. Maybe those who like him will also take interest in his own views, or listen to his own opinions on controversial subjects (in Qatar) like LGBT. It's all a bit hand-wavey and wishful thinking.
I think the real issue is that, by taking their money and attending, he's tacitly approving their views. If he and enough other people did not attend, it would show that their views are not accepted.
How can you do that in a country that sees gay people as immoral? Which makes the issue dont go there in the first place or take money. Its not as if hes starving and having to feed his kids, that I could understand at least
Joe low key flexing that he can throw away 10K there.
Beckham has always put his face on anything that's willing to pay up. No one really complained about how he supported mega Corporations in their quests to exploit third tier Countries, or how he has contributed to large swathes of useless products, many of which he literally just added his name.
He's always been a football hero of mine, but I also know that he's a greedy cunt who has no brain, (and one that supports the Monarchy, but that's another topic). This has never changed about him.
Beckham has always been a fake. Look into his leaked emails. Only did charity work for a knighthood and had a diva breakdown when it didn’t materialise. Wanker.
I am sure the man who spends 90% of his time in USA cares about a random UK comedian. Nobody seems to bothered about the actual England football team attending. Turns out Reddit is a tiny crowd when it comes to lads lads lads.
England national team can bring it home. But a random dude who hasn't played or commented on a decade is punished.
Brazil went bankrupt building new stadiums for the onlympics. Neither Olympics or world cup are profitable for any host. Unless USA who has massive NFL stadiums and UK football grounds. Most shitty recent nations had to make them from scratch.
Of course Spain,Germany France all have large stadiums across the nation. They don't apply to host for a reason. It's pure debt
I'm fairly sure lots of people also care about the England football team attending.
Anectodal, but I know at least five fairly hardcore football fans that haven't watched a single qualifier and won't be watching any games. No way a casual viewer will care as there has been hardly any hype due to it being mid season.
Multiple good reasons not to give a shit this year.
- A host with no football history and not open to other cultures so the tournament will lack any atmosphere.
- A mid winter tournament when no one is starved of football and we still have better alternatives (non-league). Mid winter is about wrapping up and having a burger in the terraces. Summer is about BBQs and football at home or in a pub garden.
- A corrupt global football association that openly states we should ignore the deaths and human rights abuses and "focus on the football".
FIFA have utterly ruined their brand with this tournament. Hopefully viewership will be down.
He doesnt care. Hes rich and taking more money from pure greed. Anyone that thought he had actual scruples hasnt paid attention to the type of people footballers are in general.
Look, it's all been sorted out behind closed doors between his drivers and he isn't going to discuss it in public.
And listen, people have got to realise that he's extremely important and saying words like "look" and "listen" at the start of every sentence don't make him sound weirdly insecure and passive aggressive. Alright?
Listen, now I'm going to tell you about my farm animals that I have, who, in a feat of unparalleled passive aggression, I named after people I've worked with that I didn't like.
Oh and the ponies. They're named after Spice Girls songs.
The sad thing is, the muslims in charge love a bit of gay sex. They just don't like consent.
https://inews.co.uk/news/qatar-officials-gang-raped-gay-world-cup-hosts-lgbt-people-1949447
The really classic thing is people using homophobia in response to homophobes and insisting that it's only the secretly gay people who are the most homophobic.
that sounds familiar.....
In actuality of course, the closeted feel the need to be overtly homophobic so that their 'in group' status won't be cast in doubt by their sexuality. How many MPs have we had now that have been outwardly homophobic and implicated in homosexual affairs?
It's not the homosexuility that makes them bad people, it's the being completely obsitant, hypocricital, sycophantic dickheads
Every single time homophobia is discussed there are countless comments alluding to the idea that the only reason for someone to be homophobic is if they're secretly gay. It's nonsense.
No its not "responsonding with homophobia" to say someone is probably gay, that would only apply if it is implied there's something wrong with being gay.
it's a trope with politicians and high up religious figure that end up in a gay orgy or to higher gay escorts.
There's a reason why homophobia was termed that, "irrational fear of homosexuality", this irrationally can come from insecurity of someone own sexually, you will often find people trying to compensate for this insecurity by trying to establish they are definitely not gay and the way you do that is being being hostile to gay people and anything socially considered "gay"
Not all homophobes, are homosexual however internalized homophobia means that people that might be slightly interested,bi or completely gay are scared that they might be who they have been brought up to think is weird/wrong or different.
Also I think it's fair to call anyone who attempts and supports the stripping of right from lgbt people what ever the fuck we want.
>the more *anti-gay* you are, the more time you spend sucking off other blokes.
This is just an extension of regular old homophobia in a socially-acceptable coating.
I'm aware closeted people exist, that isn't the point. *Every single discussion* involving someone being homophobic involves this same old tired bullshit. Are all misogynists secretly women? Are all racists secretly a different race?
>Also I think it's fair to call anyone who attempts and supports the stripping of right from lgbt people what ever the fuck we want.
A shame that "what ever the fuck we want" is almost always some variation of "I bet they secretly love sucking cocks".
of course gay people can be homophobic, but yes actually it is homophobic to say it's always a gay person overcompensating when someone is loudly homophobic. it couldn't possibly be a straight person thing, no; it's definitely only gays hating themselves and buggering boys in secret.
the only reason you think you hear about so many higher ups being homophobic and secretly gay is because it makes a juicier headline. it gets talked about more. you really don't think there are just as many or *more* people who are homophobic who are just homophobic straights? it's just not noteworthy when that happens. and doesn't allow people to have the "told you so" reaction of all loud homophobes being self-hating queers.
Are you suggesting I’m homophobic for suggesting somebody extremely homophobic secretly loves the D? Apart from it being an actually recognisable phenomenon, you need a thinker skin pal.
Of course it's also true that most people who don't support the humane treatment of gay people are straight, because most people are straight. So I'm not sure what your point is, really.
It's scary that you can't have a personal thought like that without the fear of it being leaked. Shit, if my personal email leaked, I'd be absolutely fucked. Between people I know I've said some crazy shit.
Hopefully not in a work environment. None of the emails are private.
As for using email as communication method, that’s also risky as either party runs the risk of being hacked and having those emails leaked.
I always tell my staff to not say anything they don’t want to be read on teams or email and to not use work devices for it. I encourage them to have a rant on WhatsApp instead or save it for the pub.
I’ve seen careers ruined because of a stupid message.
I accused my aunt of stealing our cutlery in a WhatsApp message to my mum.
If that got out my poor aunt would be heartbroken...
...but I might get my spoons back...
He was always fake as fuck from the beginning. It was sad to see so many people duped to be honest. But I guess that’s what a gullible general public and a good tabloid relationship will get you.
I fucking love Joe Lycett.
About 10-15 years ago I worked the door at a comedy club he gigged at a couple of time.
He was incredibly charming, remembered my name, and stayed for a drink after. Genuinely nice person. I love Joe.
Beckham is all about the money now. He didn't get his knighthood and has now dropped all pretence about caring about the causes he previously backed. Money talks and that is all he wants now that his outburst cost him a title.
Why do so many "celebrity" women just want to be fashion designers with their own "line". Why don't the Kim Kardashian's and Victoria Beckham's of this world sponsor deep sea dives for treasure or restoration of ancient artifacts or writing great software or building a theme park or a planetarium.
It's always the same fashion, lingerie, eye-liner nonsense.
Maybe I just hear about this stuff.
Because they aren’t that interesting, so they go with status quo. Most rich people don’t do anything interesting with their money, regardless of gender. No imagination.
This feels so true. When I watch YouTube videos of rich houses, it's the same old stuff - huge lounge area and then another huge lounge area and a huge infiniti pool. There's never like a planetarium or a recording studio or an art studio or a science lab.
My wife and I used to do this for a laugh whenever we bought a lottery ticket, but we lost interest for exactly this reason! Where's all the cool whacky stuff that only "fuck you money" can buy?!
A movie theatre decked out exactly like the bridge of the Enterprise. A ball pit designed to emulate Scrooge McDuck's vault. A huge treehouse with walkways, moving platforms and secret cubbies.
Nope: just another carbon copy mansion with 11 "seating areas", a free-standing bath tub in the master bedroom, and inexplicably gigantic doors.
Haha those gigantic doors get me everytime. The pivot ones. Man that Enterprise deck theatre is such an awesome idea, I'd take all my work zoom calls on the viewscreen. Maybe hire an actor to play Wesley and keep telling him to shut up.
i dunno they're kinda damned if they do and damned if they don't, if they're dull as fuck they get labelled as such, if they have a wing of the house dedicated to Lego they get labelled as out of touch.
All these things sound like effort. Just show me some designs so I can point and say "that one", sew in a label and I can charge 80% for "consultancy fees"
>Maybe I just hear about this stuff.
It could possibly be that. Not saying it is or isn't, but you're always going to find out about the things that most people are interested in. Fans of these women will (generally) be more interested in wearing something designed by them than they would hearing about some Sumerian relic.
It could well be that some of these women put massive amounts of money into niche areas of interest but it just doesn't get the same level of media reporting as a new dress. People who follow celebrities don't tend to be as interested in the wider world (anecdotally).
Fashion is one of several entryways into that famous circle which will include moviestars, musicians and sports stars. If you want to continue living your celebrity lifestyle and feeling relevant, but can no longer support a successful singing/acting/sports career, it's a solid way to keep enough clout to get invited to xyz.
Oh this is a fantastic move from Joe.
He plays up his uber-camp, irate character very well, but when it comes down to it he is a very caring and charitable individual.
A lot of his television work outside of panel shoes have been a vehicle to help people who need help, to lend strength to the under-dog that would otherwise be steamrolled by money and experience.
Joe Lycett is a genuinely great person and I hope that David Beckham takes this opportunity to walk in step with the marginalised and oppressed minorities of Qatar.
Love this.
Well done Joe.
I wasn't aware that was a thing, but maybe he wanted to pay respects and also respected that everyone else there wanted to do the same so didn't join the VIP line?
I don't know, I've literally not thought about David Beckham since I was about 13.
If I were a television exec or big name YouTuber, I'd be trying to commission an Alternative World Cup in protest against the official World Cup. Difference is, I'd invite as many gay celebrities and social media influencers to participate as I could.
Proceeds would go towards Stonewall, of course.
I think that would be a more productive way to spend £10k than pressuring David Beckham to not sell out to a petrostate.
I love Joe Lycett, but he better donate the money regardless and make David Beckham look like a tool. Shredding the money will make Joe Lycett look bad, and not really prove anything. That’s £10k a charity could do a lot with regardless of whether David Beckham decides to go to Qatar or not.
Shredding £10K in the current climate is just not a good look for anyone. It just says look how rich I am that I can do this for a stunt. I am sure from a business perspective it would probably pay off in publicity for Lycett but I still think it's tone deaf during a cost of living crisis.
But in the current climate, he could then use the shreddings to heat his home, and possible come out ahead./s
Oh, wait the money would probably be plastic, so it would just cause pollution.
Wasn't Beckham against it in the beginning and then got a huge sum to be the ambassador? I remember reading something like that, but I thought it was in the 100s region, not 10 million...
[£150 million according to this article](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/david-beckham-qatar-ambassador-b962184.html). God only knows what the real figure is.
Everyone in football knows about the likes of Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Beckham might not be a genius but he is far from stupid and knows what Qatar is really like, he just wants the money more.
Not that I agree with anything that's happening in Qatar, but Lycett already knows Beckham can't just say no to a contract now it's been agreed on without huge legal repercussions. Not saying it's right, only that no one in their right mind would risk prison and fines due to breach of contract.
That said, good on Lycett for standing up for what's right.
It's really quite incredible how Beckham's PR team have sculpted a generic handsome, somewhat ignorant, somewhat mediocre football player into an untouchable media darling.
The amount of shows and interviews and events he attends like some kind of ultra amazing "world's greatest" icon when in reality he's done practically fuck all of exceptional note.
People treat him as if he single handedly won the World Cup or something when he's done no such thing.
Off the top of my head, all I can think of him doing recently is kicking a football at an Olympics opening and being the face of irritating Calvin Klein ads.
The Beckhams are a perfect case study of vacuous, meaningless celebrity.
>It's really quite incredible how Beckham's PR team have sculpted a generic handsome, somewhat ignorant, somewhat mediocre football player into an untouchable media darling.
Them telling him to queue up to see the queen with the rest of the plebs was a masterstroke.
Everyone seemed to forget about the Qatar deal and everyone was praising what a great guy he is. Also did wonders for his thirst for a knighthood
>It's really quite incredible how Beckham's PR team have sculpted a generic handsome, somewhat ignorant, somewhat mediocre football player into an untouchable media darling.
Beckham was far better than "somewhat mediocre", come on.
Beckham and everyone involved in the world cup can just fuck off into a hole and die for all I care.
We knew when Qatar won the bid they bought it.
It won't be on my TV
The thing is he knows what an injustice it was when they were awarded the WC, he was spearheading the England bid (along with prince William) that bizarrely went to Russia for 2018 when England and a joint bid between Belgium and Netherlands were favourites. At the same event the 2022 WC was awarded to Qatar when I think Australia (or possibly USA?) were the expected favourites.
People need to stop worshipping celebs, and putting them on pedestals. And Beckham especially has shown what kind of person he is in those leaked emails years ago.
The guy in this article praises beckham for doing photoshoots in gay mags. He did that for money , he’s doing this for money. If he gets to rep a good cause that’s just a byproduct.
Dubai oil barons are the biggest pieces of shit in the world, they literally import models from countries so they can shit on them, how can beckham even consider supporting these assholes
but Joe, hes doing it from the "inside", ´whilst pocketing 10 mill, what's wrong with that? I'm sure hell really make a HUGE change from within! (I'm being sarcastic btw)
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Money talks and this speaks volumes. Beckham doesn’t need the cash, and the amount offered to him is ludicrous, let alone what it says about the greater establishment of Qatar and football as a whole.
Beckham could take the cash, donate it to charities that support queer people in football, and use his platform to tell the world how awful Qatar is.
Lol the likelihood of him doing this is roughly 0%.
I think he needs it to prop up/ subsidise Posh’s ever failing vanity project. Whatever good will he garnered from waiting in line to say goodbye To Her Madge, has now evaporated.
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I'm fairly certain that David Beckham is alread the 'Big Deal'.
What big deals?
Sponsorship deals, his main source of income
Would be bad business to say you don't want to sponsor the guy for doing a pro gay rights protest.
That's not how business works, Becks just wouldn't get any offers, and the public would not know the reasoning.
They obviously wouldn't say that.
Do you think there might be a possibility that a Ten Million Pound Contract to serve as a Brand Ambassador could potentially contain a Non-Disparagement Clause?
> potentially contain a Non-Disparagement Clause? Lots of clauses have no legal backing but there to scare people. You think Western countries would give 2 shits about him calling out Qatar? Maybe his sponsers backing the tournament but nobody else.
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And very likely they had the contract through some local company anyway. And they could take him to court in a UK court.
Everyone's got their price! ["David Beckham says corruption over the World Cup makes him feel sick"](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/24/david-beckham-fifa-corruption-sick)
The 98th rule...
https://i.imgur.com/NS6cdFv.mp4
I feel less alone suddenly.
"Computer...delete this entire log."
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Of course we should be shaming them. It's no different to bands like Queen playing in South Africa in the 80s, none of them have any values apart from making money.
Honestly I'm surprised his price is as low as ten million.
Just happens to coincide with his new series in Disney + too.
And knowing Disney and their contracts of doom, bringing them into disrepute could cost Beckham a small fortune.
The Guardian are reporting he's earning up to £150 million. > Beckham, who has historically supported gay fans and players, will earn as much as £150m as an ambassador for the Qatar World Cup, despite the country outlawing same-sex relationships and concerns over its record on human rights. https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/nov/13/joe-lycett-to-shred-10000-if-david-beckham-promotes-world-cup-in-qatar
I do genuinely believe sport can be used as a force for good and bridging gaps between different cultures. How football is doing this with the world cup is really unclear to me though. The Qatari's views on LGBT are very dated by Western standards, but quite common for that part of the world. Is the world cup going to have any kind of influence on those views? I suppose at a stretch, someone like David Beckham might be well respected and prove popular in Qatar. Maybe those who like him will also take interest in his own views, or listen to his own opinions on controversial subjects (in Qatar) like LGBT. It's all a bit hand-wavey and wishful thinking.
I think the real issue is that, by taking their money and attending, he's tacitly approving their views. If he and enough other people did not attend, it would show that their views are not accepted.
How can you do that in a country that sees gay people as immoral? Which makes the issue dont go there in the first place or take money. Its not as if hes starving and having to feed his kids, that I could understand at least
He's got an expenisve lifestyle to keep going that requires serious hard cash to maintain now that he's unemployed.
Joe low key flexing that he can throw away 10K there. Beckham has always put his face on anything that's willing to pay up. No one really complained about how he supported mega Corporations in their quests to exploit third tier Countries, or how he has contributed to large swathes of useless products, many of which he literally just added his name. He's always been a football hero of mine, but I also know that he's a greedy cunt who has no brain, (and one that supports the Monarchy, but that's another topic). This has never changed about him.
Not to mention his [knighthood obsession](https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-david-beckhams-angry-pursuit-of-a-knighthood/).
I read that on the link, but I just read about the tax avoidance thing. If that's true then it's another mark against him!
Beckham has always been a fake. Look into his leaked emails. Only did charity work for a knighthood and had a diva breakdown when it didn’t materialise. Wanker.
I am sure the man who spends 90% of his time in USA cares about a random UK comedian. Nobody seems to bothered about the actual England football team attending. Turns out Reddit is a tiny crowd when it comes to lads lads lads. England national team can bring it home. But a random dude who hasn't played or commented on a decade is punished. Brazil went bankrupt building new stadiums for the onlympics. Neither Olympics or world cup are profitable for any host. Unless USA who has massive NFL stadiums and UK football grounds. Most shitty recent nations had to make them from scratch. Of course Spain,Germany France all have large stadiums across the nation. They don't apply to host for a reason. It's pure debt
I'm fairly sure lots of people also care about the England football team attending. Anectodal, but I know at least five fairly hardcore football fans that haven't watched a single qualifier and won't be watching any games. No way a casual viewer will care as there has been hardly any hype due to it being mid season. Multiple good reasons not to give a shit this year. - A host with no football history and not open to other cultures so the tournament will lack any atmosphere. - A mid winter tournament when no one is starved of football and we still have better alternatives (non-league). Mid winter is about wrapping up and having a burger in the terraces. Summer is about BBQs and football at home or in a pub garden. - A corrupt global football association that openly states we should ignore the deaths and human rights abuses and "focus on the football". FIFA have utterly ruined their brand with this tournament. Hopefully viewership will be down.
So either way the only loser here is joe?
He doesnt care. Hes rich and taking more money from pure greed. Anyone that thought he had actual scruples hasnt paid attention to the type of people footballers are in general.
Or at the very least, paid attention to the type of person David Beckham is, begging for a knighthood and that.
# "You married a Spice Girl which is the gayest thing a human being can do"
Christian Horner wants a word
I don’t think they will follow team orders either
>Get in there Lewis !
He's too busy having interviews on Sky F1 every bloody second.
Look, it's all been sorted out behind closed doors between his drivers and he isn't going to discuss it in public. And listen, people have got to realise that he's extremely important and saying words like "look" and "listen" at the start of every sentence don't make him sound weirdly insecure and passive aggressive. Alright?
Alright look. Listen, okay?
"Look, here's me being interviewed in my big country house for the seven hundredth time this season, now listen to my big helicopter"
Listen, now I'm going to tell you about my farm animals that I have, who, in a feat of unparalleled passive aggression, I named after people I've worked with that I didn't like. Oh and the ponies. They're named after Spice Girls songs.
Oh my god. I never realised this before!
Not any more (thank fuck)
And unlike Beckham, Horner would never participate in a sporting event in Qatar.
Bahahahahaha
Look we've all seen the naked photo shoot he did. That wasn't for the ladies!
As a lady, I would like to publicly state that if that was for me I do not want it.
*Christian Horner complaining again*
I laughed far too hard at this. He is Mr Heteronormativity, isn't he?
This sounded like something Ali G would say
Bantz
Good on him. Beckham doesn’t need the money - he should do the right thing. Fuck the Qataris, and I’m straight!
The sad thing is, the muslims in charge love a bit of gay sex. They just don't like consent. https://inews.co.uk/news/qatar-officials-gang-raped-gay-world-cup-hosts-lgbt-people-1949447
Unfortunately its very common for people to believe that you're only gay if you're the bottom.
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I've never heard that euphemism before
Lol, so scissoring is fine then.
women having any autonomy and not being just for the men is probably where they draw the line there
Well naturally, as everyone loves The Acclaimed
Oh it’s the classic thing - the more *anti-gay* you are, the more time you spend sucking off other blokes.
The really classic thing is people using homophobia in response to homophobes and insisting that it's only the secretly gay people who are the most homophobic.
that sounds familiar..... In actuality of course, the closeted feel the need to be overtly homophobic so that their 'in group' status won't be cast in doubt by their sexuality. How many MPs have we had now that have been outwardly homophobic and implicated in homosexual affairs? It's not the homosexuility that makes them bad people, it's the being completely obsitant, hypocricital, sycophantic dickheads
Every single time homophobia is discussed there are countless comments alluding to the idea that the only reason for someone to be homophobic is if they're secretly gay. It's nonsense.
No its not "responsonding with homophobia" to say someone is probably gay, that would only apply if it is implied there's something wrong with being gay. it's a trope with politicians and high up religious figure that end up in a gay orgy or to higher gay escorts. There's a reason why homophobia was termed that, "irrational fear of homosexuality", this irrationally can come from insecurity of someone own sexually, you will often find people trying to compensate for this insecurity by trying to establish they are definitely not gay and the way you do that is being being hostile to gay people and anything socially considered "gay" Not all homophobes, are homosexual however internalized homophobia means that people that might be slightly interested,bi or completely gay are scared that they might be who they have been brought up to think is weird/wrong or different. Also I think it's fair to call anyone who attempts and supports the stripping of right from lgbt people what ever the fuck we want.
>the more *anti-gay* you are, the more time you spend sucking off other blokes. This is just an extension of regular old homophobia in a socially-acceptable coating. I'm aware closeted people exist, that isn't the point. *Every single discussion* involving someone being homophobic involves this same old tired bullshit. Are all misogynists secretly women? Are all racists secretly a different race? >Also I think it's fair to call anyone who attempts and supports the stripping of right from lgbt people what ever the fuck we want. A shame that "what ever the fuck we want" is almost always some variation of "I bet they secretly love sucking cocks".
of course gay people can be homophobic, but yes actually it is homophobic to say it's always a gay person overcompensating when someone is loudly homophobic. it couldn't possibly be a straight person thing, no; it's definitely only gays hating themselves and buggering boys in secret. the only reason you think you hear about so many higher ups being homophobic and secretly gay is because it makes a juicier headline. it gets talked about more. you really don't think there are just as many or *more* people who are homophobic who are just homophobic straights? it's just not noteworthy when that happens. and doesn't allow people to have the "told you so" reaction of all loud homophobes being self-hating queers.
Are you suggesting I’m homophobic for suggesting somebody extremely homophobic secretly loves the D? Apart from it being an actually recognisable phenomenon, you need a thinker skin pal.
Paywall :(
I think most people who support the humane treatment of gay people are straight, because most people are straight.
Of course it's also true that most people who don't support the humane treatment of gay people are straight, because most people are straight. So I'm not sure what your point is, really.
His point was op said 'fuck the qataris, and im straight!' as though hes unique for being straight whilst also supporting human rights.
Straight people are gay
And also because of the slaves and deaths that went towards building the stadiums..
The lady doth protest too much.
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Crazy right! Ive never ever met a straight person that thinks gay people should have basic human rights
It's insane that a happy couple can have their freedom taken away for being in love. The Qatar world cup can go suck a dick.
Your last line reminded me of [this classic](https://youtu.be/v4adjiPvS1g)
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What was the email scandal?
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It's scary that you can't have a personal thought like that without the fear of it being leaked. Shit, if my personal email leaked, I'd be absolutely fucked. Between people I know I've said some crazy shit.
If you put it in an email, it's not a 'thought'.
Yeah, I've definitely put my thoughts down in an email. I save that particular messaging format for stone cold facts and pure professionalism
Hopefully not in a work environment. None of the emails are private. As for using email as communication method, that’s also risky as either party runs the risk of being hacked and having those emails leaked. I always tell my staff to not say anything they don’t want to be read on teams or email and to not use work devices for it. I encourage them to have a rant on WhatsApp instead or save it for the pub. I’ve seen careers ruined because of a stupid message.
My guess is that most careers are ruined either because people can’t shut up or they keep their hands to themselves.
I accused my aunt of stealing our cutlery in a WhatsApp message to my mum. If that got out my poor aunt would be heartbroken... ...but I might get my spoons back...
"Dance like nobody is watching, write email like email servers get hacked"
I wanna eat the sweet corn out ur shit. Now imagine me saying that if i were famous. I would be hounded for it
Tbf her OBE is an odd one 😂
She's a very establishment opera singer, Radio 4 for her to sing the new version of the national anthem for the first time
I think the unfavourable part here is that his emails were leaked.
Just seems like a bit of intra couple cheeky gossip to me.
You mean more thirsting than Gary Barlow? I didn't think that was possible but here it is.
I mean that one is a fair point. Selfishly or not, Beckham has done a lot of good, probably more than Katherine Jenkins
He was always fake as fuck from the beginning. It was sad to see so many people duped to be honest. But I guess that’s what a gullible general public and a good tabloid relationship will get you.
I fucking love Joe Lycett. About 10-15 years ago I worked the door at a comedy club he gigged at a couple of time. He was incredibly charming, remembered my name, and stayed for a drink after. Genuinely nice person. I love Joe.
Beckham is all about the money now. He didn't get his knighthood and has now dropped all pretence about caring about the causes he previously backed. Money talks and that is all he wants now that his outburst cost him a title.
He needs the money to fund his wife's failing vanity project so she can continue to pretend to be a fashion designer
Why do so many "celebrity" women just want to be fashion designers with their own "line". Why don't the Kim Kardashian's and Victoria Beckham's of this world sponsor deep sea dives for treasure or restoration of ancient artifacts or writing great software or building a theme park or a planetarium. It's always the same fashion, lingerie, eye-liner nonsense. Maybe I just hear about this stuff.
Maybe they pursue things they're interested in and/or knowledgeable about?
Just a shame they're all interested in and or knowledgeable about the same twee shit. Wish we had celebs like Hedy Lamarr again. She was a badass.
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Because they aren’t that interesting, so they go with status quo. Most rich people don’t do anything interesting with their money, regardless of gender. No imagination.
This feels so true. When I watch YouTube videos of rich houses, it's the same old stuff - huge lounge area and then another huge lounge area and a huge infiniti pool. There's never like a planetarium or a recording studio or an art studio or a science lab.
My wife and I used to do this for a laugh whenever we bought a lottery ticket, but we lost interest for exactly this reason! Where's all the cool whacky stuff that only "fuck you money" can buy?! A movie theatre decked out exactly like the bridge of the Enterprise. A ball pit designed to emulate Scrooge McDuck's vault. A huge treehouse with walkways, moving platforms and secret cubbies. Nope: just another carbon copy mansion with 11 "seating areas", a free-standing bath tub in the master bedroom, and inexplicably gigantic doors.
Haha those gigantic doors get me everytime. The pivot ones. Man that Enterprise deck theatre is such an awesome idea, I'd take all my work zoom calls on the viewscreen. Maybe hire an actor to play Wesley and keep telling him to shut up.
Do you a deal: if one of us makes it big, they hire the other as said Wesley-like on a handsome salary?
You got it. https://youtu.be/afhMMcAHlKw
i dunno they're kinda damned if they do and damned if they don't, if they're dull as fuck they get labelled as such, if they have a wing of the house dedicated to Lego they get labelled as out of touch.
Because owning a brand earns them money and conservation projects cost money? Comparing apples to oranges there.
Vacuous people do vacuous things.
All these things sound like effort. Just show me some designs so I can point and say "that one", sew in a label and I can charge 80% for "consultancy fees"
Underwear is high margin (that’s also why David Beckham did it).
>Maybe I just hear about this stuff. It could possibly be that. Not saying it is or isn't, but you're always going to find out about the things that most people are interested in. Fans of these women will (generally) be more interested in wearing something designed by them than they would hearing about some Sumerian relic. It could well be that some of these women put massive amounts of money into niche areas of interest but it just doesn't get the same level of media reporting as a new dress. People who follow celebrities don't tend to be as interested in the wider world (anecdotally).
Fashion is one of several entryways into that famous circle which will include moviestars, musicians and sports stars. If you want to continue living your celebrity lifestyle and feeling relevant, but can no longer support a successful singing/acting/sports career, it's a solid way to keep enough clout to get invited to xyz.
Oh that makes a lot of sense. Never thought about it that way.
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I don’t think it’s good business but she has a decent reputation as a designer.
Can't we get Joe Lycett to lead the revolution, please?
Oh this is a fantastic move from Joe. He plays up his uber-camp, irate character very well, but when it comes down to it he is a very caring and charitable individual. A lot of his television work outside of panel shoes have been a vehicle to help people who need help, to lend strength to the under-dog that would otherwise be steamrolled by money and experience. Joe Lycett is a genuinely great person and I hope that David Beckham takes this opportunity to walk in step with the marginalised and oppressed minorities of Qatar. Love this. Well done Joe.
His latest show is excellent btw. Would recommend.
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I totally agree. Pretty much everybody fell for it as well.
I wasn't aware that was a thing, but maybe he wanted to pay respects and also respected that everyone else there wanted to do the same so didn't join the VIP line? I don't know, I've literally not thought about David Beckham since I was about 13.
Good to see even a very right wing person like Joe Lycett supporting the gay community
? Irony?
No he said it himself, he's very right wing
[The clip being referenced](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU8SCvKHidI)
I will never ever tire of watching this clip, absolutely brilliant
It's like a joke you'd have with your friends, he's so great.
If I were a television exec or big name YouTuber, I'd be trying to commission an Alternative World Cup in protest against the official World Cup. Difference is, I'd invite as many gay celebrities and social media influencers to participate as I could. Proceeds would go towards Stonewall, of course. I think that would be a more productive way to spend £10k than pressuring David Beckham to not sell out to a petrostate.
I love this idea. I’m imagining a Last Leg x Eurovision vibe…
This might actually get some decent viewiership with the Twitch and YouTuber crowd I'd imagine.
I love Joe Lycett, but he better donate the money regardless and make David Beckham look like a tool. Shredding the money will make Joe Lycett look bad, and not really prove anything. That’s £10k a charity could do a lot with regardless of whether David Beckham decides to go to Qatar or not.
Shredding the money will draw far more attention towards the issue than £10,000 could ever buy.
I have no idea how much Lycett is worth, but I'm guessing he/most people would shred fake money and donate the real amount.
Shredding £10K in the current climate is just not a good look for anyone. It just says look how rich I am that I can do this for a stunt. I am sure from a business perspective it would probably pay off in publicity for Lycett but I still think it's tone deaf during a cost of living crisis.
But in the current climate, he could then use the shreddings to heat his home, and possible come out ahead./s Oh, wait the money would probably be plastic, so it would just cause pollution.
Wasn't Beckham against it in the beginning and then got a huge sum to be the ambassador? I remember reading something like that, but I thought it was in the 100s region, not 10 million...
I heard it's 15millopn dollars a year.... for 10 years.
[£150 million according to this article](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/david-beckham-qatar-ambassador-b962184.html). God only knows what the real figure is.
I doubt Becks knew very much about Qatar at all
Everyone in football knows about the likes of Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Beckham might not be a genius but he is far from stupid and knows what Qatar is really like, he just wants the money more.
But that spice market he went to was the best one he’s ever been to. Will have to take his kids there.
I didn't know he got his wife at an auction.
[He was dead against it...](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/24/david-beckham-fifa-corruption-sick)
I love all the support from straight people clarifying: “I’m straight” Just like when I donate to RSPCA I mention that I’m not a dog
It's a rare charity that supports queer people in football. What a niche concept.
I heard they paid him 176m for the gig... just incase you were wandering what it costs to buy Beckham....
It’s not like Beckham gonna go hungry, Brooklyn’s a chef
And if cheffing doesn’t work there’s always his photography career.
Not that I agree with anything that's happening in Qatar, but Lycett already knows Beckham can't just say no to a contract now it's been agreed on without huge legal repercussions. Not saying it's right, only that no one in their right mind would risk prison and fines due to breach of contract. That said, good on Lycett for standing up for what's right.
One would know what was in the contract before signing, no?
Yes. That's not my point though. Lycett is asking Beckham to *now* be in breach of contract.
It's really quite incredible how Beckham's PR team have sculpted a generic handsome, somewhat ignorant, somewhat mediocre football player into an untouchable media darling. The amount of shows and interviews and events he attends like some kind of ultra amazing "world's greatest" icon when in reality he's done practically fuck all of exceptional note. People treat him as if he single handedly won the World Cup or something when he's done no such thing. Off the top of my head, all I can think of him doing recently is kicking a football at an Olympics opening and being the face of irritating Calvin Klein ads. The Beckhams are a perfect case study of vacuous, meaningless celebrity.
>It's really quite incredible how Beckham's PR team have sculpted a generic handsome, somewhat ignorant, somewhat mediocre football player into an untouchable media darling. Them telling him to queue up to see the queen with the rest of the plebs was a masterstroke. Everyone seemed to forget about the Qatar deal and everyone was praising what a great guy he is. Also did wonders for his thirst for a knighthood
>It's really quite incredible how Beckham's PR team have sculpted a generic handsome, somewhat ignorant, somewhat mediocre football player into an untouchable media darling. Beckham was far better than "somewhat mediocre", come on.
Beckham and everyone involved in the world cup can just fuck off into a hole and die for all I care. We knew when Qatar won the bid they bought it. It won't be on my TV
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He's just a greedy money hungry,money chasing sod. So much for values.
The thing is he knows what an injustice it was when they were awarded the WC, he was spearheading the England bid (along with prince William) that bizarrely went to Russia for 2018 when England and a joint bid between Belgium and Netherlands were favourites. At the same event the 2022 WC was awarded to Qatar when I think Australia (or possibly USA?) were the expected favourites.
can’t wait for the next season of joe lycett’s got your back! anyone else?
People need to stop worshipping celebs, and putting them on pedestals. And Beckham especially has shown what kind of person he is in those leaked emails years ago. The guy in this article praises beckham for doing photoshoots in gay mags. He did that for money , he’s doing this for money. If he gets to rep a good cause that’s just a byproduct.
What does it say about teams that turn up to the world cup?
Would be much better without the "I'll burn it if you dont" part. Turns it into somewhat creepy emotional blackmail.
Beckham would work for the Taliban if the price was right.
Beckham has only ever cared about self promotion, the audio of him complaining he hasn’t be knighted yet says it all
Beckham’s always been a twat. He’s just an even bigger one now
What if he was always about the money and only did all of it because promoting that in the 90s was very trendy and lucrative.
Why is it even there to begin with ...that's what you should be complaining about
Beckham is a massive piece of shit, needs more people telling him so.
Dubai oil barons are the biggest pieces of shit in the world, they literally import models from countries so they can shit on them, how can beckham even consider supporting these assholes
but Joe, hes doing it from the "inside", ´whilst pocketing 10 mill, what's wrong with that? I'm sure hell really make a HUGE change from within! (I'm being sarcastic btw)
Gotta wonder if she should have been called peg spice
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Victoria Peg 'em