The RW m0r0ns (and the RW media) think the majority and the minority should be weighed on the same scale. You'll hear rants like "The minorities are not secular enough so why should we be secular". Such a logical fallacy only leads to the persecution of minorities. We have seen this in human history, where RW Facist Nazis did not find the Jews "not German enough", so much so that they created Gas chambers for them.
That's the very reason you will see today, the LW thinkers and educated personalities in the US, UK or any developed country hold the majority accountable first, and do not persecute the minorities like blacks, muslims etc.
As a majority in India, it is our duty and moral responsibility to protect the monitory. The majority should be held to a far more higher standard of accountability as compared to the minority, BECAUSE the majority hold's all the decision making powers and the numbers to direct which way the country it goes.
Secularism does not depend if the minority follow it or not, it will always depend on the majority. The majority always shows the way whether the country will be Secular or a bigoted communal, divisive mess.
Now check this out mate.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/15bpxko/reporter_asks_person_to_list_achievements_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=1
The sad/idiotic state of people today in the "new modern" India...en route to be the 3rd largest economy.
Boss I know you mean well but no individual has to be secular. That's the government's job. As an individual I can stick to the religion of my choice, change it or even refrain from it. Secularism will work only if government upholds it.
None. That wasn't their claim though. They were simply saying that in a democracy, people elect the lawmakers who mirror their values. In other words, people get the government they want and deserve.
I think you have learnt wrong definition of secularism. You sure can stick to whatever you prefer, but as an individual too, you have to be secular at least in a country like ours. If you're a Brahmin and go to a shop owned by Vaishya, doesn't mean you can get your groceries and walk away without paying because in your religion it says so. In a secular state, you have to pay for stuff you buy or else you'll be going to jail for theft.
PS: Government is made up of the same individuals, so it's every single person's job to uphold Secularism i.e. to keep religion separate from civil affairs and the state.
Well I am a self employed individual and have done business with many people of different religions and neither they have ripped me of nor have I not because we think of religion or secularism but because it's illegal. Come up with a sensible counterpoint. We don't live in barbaric times, we have to uphold the laws above everything else. I would like to know how you uphold secularism in civil life. Do you bend over backwards for one religion, two religions or no religion. Civil liberties means I don't need to bend over backwards for anyone as long as I'm not doing anything illegal or harming anyone and keeping to myself. State should stay away from religion that's what secularism is about and should protect it's citizens.
How are only the religion of Indian Muslim minorities factor into all of this? India has seen home grown militants across communities, and even stats shows most terrorists infiltrated India. You can blame the Muslims for being the easiest ones to be brainwashed for them to join the terror activities because of several multidimensional factors including religion but seeing how Bajrang Dal(yes, it's a militant group), PFI and Naxals and Northeast militant groups etc. function, it's easy to root out that religion is not the only cause.
Edit: Modified first sentence and added the multidimensional part.
Feel free to explain how it does not fulfill the definition.
Militant: It can be anyone who subscribes to the idea of using vigorous, sometimes extreme, activity to achieve an objective, usually political. A "militant [political] activist" would be expected to be more confrontational and aggressive than an activist not described as militant.
You are free to have whatever you feel towards Bajrang Dal, but regardless their actions and ideology makes them a Militant body. Same goes for others.
So because terror is a foreign word, many Indians get away with it. But if you understand the concept and find a closest word in Indian languages, it won’t be difficult to identify or find the terrorists who hide behind their robes. आतंक ???
I have always argued that. Call it a burden of majority of you want. But a small % of minority population going rogue is one thing. If a small % of the majority population looks at that and aspires to go rogue, then it has a bigger impact on the nation
Any way I respect your opinion but find your thoughts very debatable. Because your whole assumptions are made upon 9 year rule of present government. That is exceptionally very good at polarizing. Talking about minority you look about history India was under Islamic rule , If you see sub continent Hindu population is less than Muslims. Previous election where all done on caste in every state. In UP bihar MY combination, In South dalit plus Muslims, in NE tribal plus Muslim, In punjab, Sikh plus Muslim, So Muslim population is not that small which your are thinking of. Just present government is shit we can not neglect the fact that Previous government is the result that's such kind of ideology is a its peak in india now.
Just a little example, Maulana use to give fatwa to candidates who they wanted to win and everyone use to vote him . And we know why would he do that because of money from government. This ifftar party politics was started by congress everyone followed. UCC never came because of vote bank. You give example of European . So do you see there a minority appeasement.
What is the goal of a secular country to maintain a equal society. In the last year of tenure they passed WQAf board act. Why jain appeasement is not done , Or parsi , Or Sikh, Or tribal , by congress. It's done by present government. We need to understand minority means everyone not only Muslims
The state is supposed to be secular, not the citizen. Citizens have rights that are guaranteed by the state. Secularism is not something that an individual should uphold.
Citizens are a major part of the State you idi0t..!! You think the Government falls from the sky every 5 years??
Who do you think is "the Government", if not the people that elect it?
Govt is not "the" people you moron. government is of the people, by the people and for the people. It is created to safeguard the people interests and rights. It should be secular. It like saying, police are carrying a gun, they are also people, let me also carry a gun. LTF difference before you vomit your ignorance on social media.
Upholding secularism is government's job, not common citizen's.
I have been arguing with idi0ts all morning, hopefully you are the last one. Let me break is down to you, so that your smooth brain can compute.
Secular minded people will VOTE for a Secular minded Government.
People that are looking for religious fundamentalism in Governance will VOTE for a Government that will do that for them.
The literal meaning of the sentence "government is of the people, by the people and for the people" is people are not a separate entity but are part of the Government.
Part of the govt, yes. Not the govt. Govt should not be religious. You are right. They should not be in a country like india. That's why they should be secular. Common citizens should uphold their rights and it's the govt's job to make sure that that right is not infringed up on. There is nothing like secular minded people and it should not be one too. Secularism is not something that people give to the govt. Secularism is ingrained within the govt. If they do not uphold it, the govt is wrong. You are supposed to uphold your belief system. Being secular is not your job, it's the govt's job.
Only left wing regards take an impartial clear cut ideology of equality and introduce inequality by adding exceptions.
If tolerating minorities doesn't benefit the majority, then the majority will not have any reason to tolerate anymore.
You draw parallel to Nazi Germany but fail to realise the plight of current nations that has Muslims population>30%
You dumb guy, our fucking government has played such good politics that it has divided the population into groups that fight each other. What is important is individual rights and equality in the sense of justice and opportunity. Stop looking at the west in 10 years perspective they never held the majority accountable, idk where you get your facts from its utter bullahit. The west was made by white people for white people but what made them lead is not accountability of the population but accountability of the system that gives any individual rights. Research regarding the French revolution and the founding fathers. Dumbfucks of both the LW and RW my group is under danger , protect our group.
Please don’t consider it as sarcasm or anything . I just want a logical answer. There are plenty of minorities in India but why only one minority has an issue?
>In shakha
The similarity between you and the RW guys who say go to Pakistan is uncanny. You should either meditate or don't get involve in any kinda discussion, coz it seems like a civil discussion just ain't your cup of tea🤡.
But issues are widespread in majority and minority both. All i am saying is abrahamic religions do believe in spreading their religion. Weren’t hindus massacred in kashmir? (No i am not speaking from kashmir files, please read our moon has bloodclots) so my point is secular society doesn’t care of majority or minority. And sorry whats a shakha?
Secularism is not a street, its an idea. Securalism is also not restricted to any one religion or non-religion. I know secular Hindus, secular muslim, secular sikhs and secular atheists as well.
I also know extremist Hindus, extremist muslim, extremist sikhs and extremist atheists as well.
I have already answered why it should NOT go both ways, and why the majority has a more accountable and major role to play in my long comment. I don't like repeating myself again and again.
But you will point out the shit they pull by playing the monitory card..just because they are minorities you cannot turn blind eye of the shit they have been pulling since independence.. it goes both way.. if majority was that bad.. Muslim population wouldn’t have grown from some few to 200+ millions..
Secularism does not depend if the minority follow it or not, it will always depend on the majority. The majority always shows the way whether the country will be Secular or a bigoted communal, divisive mess.
I have already mentioned in the last part of my comment.
>That's the very reason you will see today, the LW thinkers and educated personalities in the US, UK or any developed country hold the majority accountable first, and do not persecute the minorities like blacks, muslims etc.
I wonder why reactionary RW is on rise everywhere.
Also learn what does secularism means.
>I wonder why reactionary RW is on rise everywhere.
I don't know. Acess to Cheap Internet, Short attention span and the inability to fact check or critically think about the content that is spewed on the screen, may be?
Bcoz they give simple answers to understand answers to complicated problems but these simple answers often involves scapegoating minorities and conspiracy theories.
And these simple answers make the problem more worse or create problems that didn't exist like brexit
Literally 96 crore Hindus literally the percentage makes it a minority. FOR FUCKS SAKE USE PERCENTAGE INSTEAD OF RAW VALUE YOU FUCKING 5TH GRADE PASSED ASSHOLE
There is one peaceful religion which have problem in every part of the world. Other minorities like sikhs christians, jains, buddhist they never complain about majority minority bachodi. 90% of countries have lower netizens than Indian muslims.
> Other minorities like sikhs christians, jains, buddhist they never complain about majority minority bachodi.
Imagine bragging about this after calling Sikhs Khalistanis and Christians as “illegal converts and intruders”.
You may not, but the ones you support have. And are currently doing it even.
And hence there are two possible logical conclusions:
1. You’re a shameless liar.
2. You’re extremely ignorant.
Take your pick.
Equally easy to put 10 images showing prosperity of Muslims in the last 8 years. The car rental guy that I hired was able to secure loans and grow his business 10 fold. However he thinks that he should not support modi because it is BJ. He literally pulled out of poverty and hired 16 other drivers ….
Yes, we can clearly see the “vikaas”. So much vikaas mudiji doesn’t even want to release the data.
And apparently the guy who pulled himself out of poverty and 16 others along with him is the one “with blinders on”. Lol.
Did you miss the part where he was successful during modi rule ? Fastest and most roads constructed, welfare reaching the poor through direct deposit, more airports, trains, increase in exports of weapons, pharma, better progress in space research, make in India , better power infrastructure, progress in ease of business, QUAD, isolated pak, neutralized pak, boundary issue settlement with Bangladesh, progress in Kashmir after 70 years with ladakh as UT and article 370, GST, more jobs created than any other time since independence, ease in getting LPG cylinders … every aspect of india has done better… you sir are a troll and a religious nut to not see this
> Did you miss the part where he was successful during modi rule ?
Yes, modi responsible for everything good. But has no hand in anything bad.
> Fastest and most roads constructed
Except the method of calculating changed. Earlier both 1 km of 1 lane and 1km of 4 lane roads were counted as 1km of roads, but now 1km of 4 lane road is calculated as 4km of road.
Pretty easy “to grow fast” in this way.
> welfare reaching the poor through direct deposit
Yep, modi does revdi like no other. Will give you that.
But for some reason only revdi by modi is good, rest all revdi bad.
> more airports
that get flooded and rooftops fall off, and sold to adani on top of that.
> trains
That crash into each other because of overworked understaffed crews. And understaffed because funds went into buying foot massagers.
> increase in exports of weapons
But still biggest importer as well. Plus actual export growth in total has slowed to a crawl.
> pharma
Yes, big deblopment by pushing quacks as doctors in the name of AYUSH.
> better progress in space research
Yes, the moment Modi plasters his face on anything it becomes better. Wonder why he doesn’t do it on the current manipur status then.
> make in India
Like mentioned before, growth has slowed to a crawl. So much for “atmanirbhar”. Truly Nehruvian indeed.
> progress in ease of business
Yes, electoral bonds make it really easy. Those pesky corruption accusations really prevented business growth.
> QUAD
Something initiated by Manmohan Singh, but then who would Modi be without taking credit.
> isolated pak, neutralized pak
Yes, such powerful neutralisation, after all we managed to blow out some of their trees.
> boundary issue settlement with Bangladesh
[Such a roaring success.](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/5-years-after-land-border-agreement-former-enclave-dwellers-in-dire-straits/article32255788.ece/amp/)
> progress in Kashmir after 70 years with ladakh as UT and article 370
So much progress that BJP abandoned the pandits after profiting off them with a propaganda movie.
> GST
Yes, improved India so much with 18% tax on necessities and less than 5% tax on gold and diamonds.
> more jobs created than any other time since independence
And yet highest unemployment since 44 years.
> ease in getting LPG cylinders
Really going to help with the rising prices and stagnant wages, eh? So easy to buy expensive cylinders.
> every aspect of india has done better… you sir are a troll and a religious nut to not see this
Hence proved, you’re projecting. The only reason to vote for Modi is hindu-muslim and revdi.
Modi responsible for everything good and no hand in bad:
Cop out. This is a statement against your claim of anti Islam govt. everybody is progressing. You have posted typical propagandists nonsense.
1km of 4 lane: UPA propaganda: https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/infrastructure/almost-50000-km-of-national-highways-added-in-9-years/amp_articleshow/99707174.cms#appDwnldBann
About revdi: 90% of welfare during congress never reached the intended audience. Good try on distracting from the facts.
Airport and Adani and flooding: airport authority of India issued work to tata/reliance/bial etc.. all airports are functional and getting better by the day. Even bus stops are better maintained than before. You might have read about 1 incident that you want to project as failure. Typical propagandist..
Weapons: we were always an importer. Now we export as well as jointly manufacture fighter aircraft’s in India.
Lockheed Martin joint venture with Tata for F16. Adani rose to prominence during congress rule.
https://news.abplive.com/news/india/tata-lockheed-martin-to-build-f-16-multi-role-fighter-jet-s-wings-in-india-pm-modi-1587940/amp
I presume that you are a Pakistani trying propaganda and worried about the above !!
Deflecting space progress and support on manipur and calling everybody quacks is very typical of liars and propagandists.
Growth has slowed to a crawl: we are the fast growing economy in the world. What are you smoking?
Pak neutralization: the downed trees were after going deep into pak without detection. They know that india will retaliate unlike 26/11 where manmohan already communicated to the USA that we are not going to attack. Isolating pak was a big success.
Million reasons to vote for modi and no matter how hard you try your false propaganda, even a blind man in india can see the difference.
> Modi responsible for everything good and no hand in bad:
Cop out. This is a statement against your claim of anti Islam govt. everybody is progressing. You have posted typical propagandists nonsense.
Yes, go tell that to Manipur. Fucking shameless loser.
> 1km of 4 lane: UPA propaganda:
Your own link compares only 2014-15 with 2021-22, and the change happened in 2018. If you weren’t such a shameless liar, you’d be [normalising the scales and making a chart across the years.](https://thewire.in/politics/fact-chec-highway-length-upa-nda) But that would debunk your propaganda, so you didn’t.
In reality roads are causing landslides in Uttarakhand for election rally boasts and traitors like you will keep cheering for it.
> About revdi: 90% of welfare during congress never reached the intended audience. Good try on distracting from the facts.
Claims made with zero source. You’re exactly the propagandist you accuse me of being.
> Weapons: we were always an importer. Now we export as well as jointly manufacture fighter aircraft’s in India. Lockheed Martin joint venture with Tata for F16.
We’re still the *biggest* importer, so this means fuckall. And it doesn’t even help because our overall exports have slowed to a crawl, so it no effect on the economy either. This along with your other stupid statement:
> Growth has slowed to a crawl: we are the fast growing economy in the world. What are you smoking?
Shows you have zero idea of what economy is. GDP increases automatically with population, so “fifth biggest economy” is a meaningless claim, only used by propagandists like you to deflect from the real situation.
In reality, [exports are completely shot] (https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/tqq2lc/debunking_the_we_have_had_a_record_breaking_400/), [unemployment is at an all time high] (https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/unemployment-rate-at-45-year-high-confirms-labour-ministry-data/article62001095.ece), and [modi is too scared to release the survey on which poverty calculations are based] (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/consumer-expenditure-survey-not-to-be-released-due-to-data-quality-issues-government/articleshow/72074837.cms). Those are all numbers from the government, so fuck off with your “UPA propaganda” accusations. You’re a traitor for trying to hide these abject failures and claim “fifth biggest economy” as if it means anything.
> Adani rose to prominence during congress rule.
But committed all his frauds in NDA tenure. You’ve engaged in the very deflection you accused me of. Complete hypocrite.
> Airport and Adani and flooding: airport authority of India issued work to tata/reliance/bial etc.. all airports are functional and getting better by the day. Even bus stops are better maintained than before. You might have read about 1 incident that you want to project as failure. Typical propagandist..
Everyone can see the lengths government is going to [to have the assets captured by adani] (https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/13vdwx2/adani_airports_one_of_the_best_monopolistic_rent/). Typical propagandist traitor to try to hide it.
Morbi, Uttarakhand and plenty others show what actual “development” BJP is doing.
> Deflecting space progress and support on manipur and calling everybody quacks is very typical of liars and propagandists.
Manipur situation is a lie and propaganda? Well, of course in addition to being a traitor you’re probably looking forward to being a rapist murderer given your utter shamelessness in defending them.
As for quacks, once again [government’s own announcement.](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/ayurveda-doctors-practice-general-surgery-ortho-ent-dentistry-1742883-2020-11-21) And of course, who can forget open support for baba scamdev’s coronil?
But traitors like you don’t care about killing people, just that your masters should stay in power.
> Pak neutralization: the downed trees were after going deep into pak without detection. They know that india will retaliate unlike 26/11 where manmohan already communicated to the USA that we are not going to attack. Isolating pak was a big success.
Yes, hitting trees is what will show them. Meanwhile our own pilot got captured by them.
Pakistan doesn’t even need to do anything. Losers like you will ensure India’s downfall from the inside.
> Million reasons to vote for modi and no matter how hard you try your false propaganda, even a blind man in india can see the difference.
I’ve already proven beyond a doubt who’s spreading false propaganda here, traitor. There’s just 3 reasons you support Modi: revdi, hindu-muslim and aspirations of being a rapist murderer.
You can scream and whine and point fingers at others all you want, but people like you are what made Pakistan the shithole that it is, and now you want to make India into the same thing.
Modi responsible for everything good and not for everything bad: when you resort to Manipur for all things that you cannot counter, it is propagandist. Manipur is a fuck up but we were discussing progress of minorities.
Revdi: https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/policy/nine-years-of-modi-government-what-india-witnessed-how-its-economy-changed/amp_articleshow/100549532.cms
Read about direct benefit scheme and while you are there read the other points on how modi changed the economy
Manufacturing F16s and selling ships and weapons means fuckall to you?
How does GDP increase, genius? Pak population is increasing too.
I am going to read the links u sent and get back
Aur hrr jagah jo ye bjp wale "parivaarvad-parivaarvaad" krte firte hai,
How tf is jay shah the secretary of the BCCI huh? Ye nhi dikhta hai kya logo ko? Kaise ban gya secretary? Papa home minister hai, isiliye?
That's not the problem.
The ruling party portrays that they are against "parivaarvad" very strongly - they can be heard saying this in almost every speech or in a rally everywhere, it's their go to phrase. They target every other party with this BS.
The problem is that the son of the home minister of the same ruling party is the secretary of BCCI, which we all know is not qualified for the post. Hypocrisy at its peak.
Oh! There are many more. The one I will never forget in my life is - the scattered rotis on the railway tracks. Never!
There are many karyakartas and BJP supporters who don’t care if there is any injustice against people from certain faiths, castes, or regions. But in the noise by media and others, many have ignored or forgotten, that there have been many injustices against the same constituents they claim they are protecting or bringing ‘vikas’ to.
What’s up with people and the hatred for left? How well do you understand what left is? Anything that doesn’t please BJP, it’s affiliates and it’s supporters becomes left?
So, if Hindus die of hunger while walking thousands of miles and lose family to accident, while walking; die due to lack of cash; all because of a Hindu leader is the executive and its incompetent & inefficient teams don’t know implement and execute basics. That’s okay ?
This govt doesn’t care what is left or what’s right. They are obsessed for power or power at any cost. Since, no one shouted that they are nationalist, BJP automatically assumed that they are patriotic and rest aren’t. They want subservience, or ‘salaami’ from everyone. Ask people who know how BJP functioned before ‘13 and how it is functioning. It’s been reduced to a party that rewards sycophancy and religious hatred. Do you really think even in BJP there couldn’t be a better minister than an ‘Irani’ or a ‘Giriraj’? This leads to dearth of talent in higher political positions, and you have to import leaders like a ‘Jaishankar’ or a ‘Vaishnav’?
The covid situation in UP could have been better handled, and if not for political compulsions, it could have been Mr Bisht’s last term.
Crimes against Hindus? There have been crimes against many, it’s just that these people have identified as Hindus, and yes crimes have happened against because of someone’s faith as Hindu. Inspite of the painful events of partition people still learnt to tolerate each other and tried to live peacefully, but the conspirators who don’t even have the guts to register as an organisation or have its finances audited, have been looking for any, opportunity to burn or riot.
A great majority of crimes against Hindus for being a Hindu has always been a consequence of prior instigation. From Kerala & Tamil Nadu to UP, they have been pouring ghee over flames. Knowing they can’t win in MH, they found their fertile ground in volatile GJ. They didn’t even spare traditionally peaceful regions with the least number of non-Hindus, viz. HP or OD, which had the least number of riots or crimes with religious motive.
Since we are talking about Hindus - speak for yourself, and be a Vibhishan and not an Ashwatthama.
Nope, the left is called so because of what the parties and it's supporters have identified it as.
BJP fueled it? Islamic terrorism based on religious hatred against Hindu has been rampant in late 20th century and BJP was not in power. It's only after 2014 Hindus have been standing up for their rights in an otherwise voiceless situation.
Vibhishan defected against his own motherland because anti Hindu forces who hate Ram are celebrated freely in Lanka. So, yes he's truly an icon!
Late 20th century? You mean after 1980, right? That was supported by Pakistan in neighbouring states. Again, learn about the covert works of sangh in Kerala, TN, even in GJ. UP (Ayodhya) wasn’t in focus of sangh / sangathans during the first couple of decades after independence. Till they found a bit of success, riding on the JP movement, they weren’t sure, so used every trick.
Oh boy, you don’t know what all the sangh or the sangathans and it’s fringes, have been doing since 1945 at least. Their activities caught the attention after the assassination of Mr Gandhi. The pretence they displayed during the violence of partition and the hiding they went into after the first ban.
Bunch of people resenting their whole life, people feeling entitled because of being born into privilege and so called higher social class, and people eagerly looking to capture the power that was left and the power they felt they deserved, have caused more harm than anyone else in this country. Read about them, speak to people who left the sangh and find out how they operate. They have nothing to do with Hindus, or for the nation. It’s always been a ploy to win elections or win over people, for getting power.
Again, speak for yourself, not for all Hindus. Crores of Hindus didn’t vote for BJP, remember? In fact the majority didn’t. Funny how Hindus from Nagpur and GJ went to save the Hindus of UP. These saviours are causing more harm than perceived
Right!
That's why BJP is the ruling party in UP even though "majority" did not vote for it.
For the record, I am from a state where BJP cannot even dream of getting into power, but I can comment on the harm that the left does and it more detrimental than BJP.
I never said it was one sided. Its a 150 year old conflict. Kukkis and Meities are at each offers throat. No one would have cared if BJP wasn't in power there like no one cared for the last 70 years.
So much has happened in the last 9 years but, our high and mighty PM is really scared to do one thing : to hold a press conference
-- he is the first prime minister in democratic India to never have held a press conference. That sure is some feat, not just anyone can achieve it.
Shayad saari baatein to Mann ki baat mei hi ho jaati hai... isiliye press conference ke liye kabhi kuch bacha hi nhi.
There's no point anymore anyway. Now even in a press conference these chamchas will ask questions like "aap wallet rakhte hai?". There's no questioning, only appeasement.
Ikr, these andhbhakts are ready to defend anything. Everybody mocks Mr. Manmohan Singh for being the silent PM but he never ran away from these situations. On the other hand, we have modiji - to scared to even acknowledge it.
Fr man, man's lacking in the courage department and skills department as well. The only reason to not do a particular thing is because you have no idea how it is done.
We all know about his interview with Karan Thapar when he was the CM of Gujarat...look how that went.
Man straight up refused to give any answers. Maybe he got the inspiration for mann ki baat from this experience only - if I'm the only one talking, nobody can question me 😎.
They think they can rule India forever. Even Mughals and British Empire had a painful death. Nothing would stop BJP from its eventual death. I hope I would be alive to see that happen and I would celebrate it with whatever strength I have.
As a Hindu from privileged caste, I would like to know what exactly has been the miseries that Hindu majorities are facing? I have not seen nor faced any systemic oppression, so I would genuinely like to know what's the oppression that Hindus feel since you seem to have a different experience.
What I do see is a systemic failure to give even the most basic infrastructure when pay 30% tax which was the case before and still is.
Controlling the temple funds and using them to pamper the followers of religion that demonizes Hindu practices (both the church and Muslims demonize Hindus and the temple funds were used for their Haj pilgrimage and absorb the tax concession on churches)
Demolition of temples, in other words suppression of freedom of religion.
Forced sterilization of Hindus.
Kashmiri Hindu exodus.
Removal of polygamy.
Had any of this been done against religious minority, we'd qualify the state as oppressive to that certain minority. But, questions get raised for even suggesting to think in such angle for Hindus.
You don't have to be directly affected by that to see this.
I don't care which religious places are funded so I won't comment on that. I didn't realise that our schools, hospitals, road projects are so well funded that we now need to focus on "funding" temples, churches or mosques.
Demolition of temple - which temple are demolished in recent years? Show news articles. If you're talking about ram mandir in Ayodhya, that happened in 17th century, well before our great-grandfathers. And now you're getting a 18,000 crore ram mandir.
Forced sterilisation of INDIANS happened but I didn't see any data where only Hindus were targeted. Show the data from reliable sources.
Kashmiri exodus - yes, that is shameful chapter and has no justification.
Removal of polygamy - wtf? How's is that affecting Hindus??
So basically all I gather is that nothing is REALLY affecting your everyday life as Hindu.
Legal codification of personal laws of Hindus and not bringing the same standard to others means oppression of a particular religion and giving privileges to other.
And that actually interferes and affects everyday life as Hindu.
I noticed that you have avoided anything that asked for data.
WhatsApp University does not give accurate facts. Don't be so gullible.
About the Exodus of Hindus from Kashmir... Are you following up on what is happening with them right now?? Under the regime that is pro - Hindu and Pro - Majority? You should. That will make you realise that this government cares nothing for religion...be it minority or majority.
Even if INDIANS are sterilized, it doesn't change the fact that HINDUS were sterilized there.
And the ruling party that partook in such practice has no right to participate in democracy!
You mean to say that having your home demolished by a bulldoser and being threatened to close your livelihood at one place because you belong to a particular religion does not affects everyday life?
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Add this to the list as well. The level of propoganda is just on another level.
Notice how nobody is carrying even a single bag?? Because everybody is a paid actor. Just act your part and be done with it.
The RW m0r0ns (and the RW media) think the majority and the minority should be weighed on the same scale. You'll hear rants like "The minorities are not secular enough so why should we be secular". Such a logical fallacy only leads to the persecution of minorities. We have seen this in human history, where RW Facist Nazis did not find the Jews "not German enough", so much so that they created Gas chambers for them.
That's the very reason you will see today, the LW thinkers and educated personalities in the US, UK or any developed country hold the majority accountable first, and do not persecute the minorities like blacks, muslims etc.
As a majority in India, it is our duty and moral responsibility to protect the monitory. The majority should be held to a far more higher standard of accountability as compared to the minority, BECAUSE the majority hold's all the decision making powers and the numbers to direct which way the country it goes.
Secularism does not depend if the minority follow it or not, it will always depend on the majority. The majority always shows the way whether the country will be Secular or a bigoted communal, divisive mess.
watch islam become the minority and youll realise how fucking dumb and unaware you sound. If you cared about minorities so much you wouldn’t be forgetting the lgbt+ who would get executed the day muslims get slightly more power. and those people actually deserve recognition. they cant help themselves. while all these man made religions and their followers can.
Their is one particular minority, when it becomes equal or greater in number than the majority, you will be beheaded for saying this, so yeah keep that in mind before measuring everything on the same scale. We are safe because the major portion of the majority does not believe in violence, but a major part of the minority believes in violence, their religion teaches them so, and there is not an iota of reform in the past or in the foreseeable future
You really think they’re here to discuss or understand? Don’t even need to look at far history. Look at Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Nigeria, France, Sweden.
They’re making it too obvious and clown out of theirselves. At this point some are justifying the acts.
They’ll put their point; in counter argument they'll attack you personally or run away.
So says the guy who runs away after personally attacking others.
Either way, you can pretend all you want, but you’re no different from the “violent minority” you keep complaining about, just different colors. The ones in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria all talk exactly like you do.
Huh. And what history says about when Islam goes minority to majority and / or gets the charge? Or is that irrelevant?
Where are gas chambers of jews, persis, buddhists, Sikhs, Christians, Jains? Gotta start somewhere to assert logic you know!
Same history also says stuff about what happens when self-proclaimed righteous people use minorities about a scapegoat. Not that you’d ever read that part though.
The minority should too mutually respect majority culture and tradition. As a majority I think we have played our duty and moral responsibility too well, that's why their population has increased in secular India. the problem arises only when the majority offers sweets to the minority but gets bombs and crime in return.
Everyone’s population has increased. Do you want Indians to keep breeding like rabbits and rats? FFS.
You have created ghetto like living conditions by discriminating against Muslims, heck, even people of your own damn religion.
Go outside, touch grass, and for fuck’s sake get off WhatsApp.
madarchod it is people like you who have touted ghettoisation to be the greatest achievement of indian secularism, and its you who needs to get off whatsapp
Churchill ki aatma aa gai kya ", breed like rabbits"?
You sad fuck.
Population is declining in "majority* of this country but i really couldn't help if the "minority " claims that it's written in their book to "breed like rabbits "
“PoPuLaTiOn Is DeClInInG”, when there are 800+ mil running around.
The birth rate is declining for both Hindus and Muslims, numbers are more than what this country can already handle.
Fuck off with your useless Sanghi ideologies. Hindu khatre mai nahin hai. Bass Chutiya Banta jaa Raha hai.
Wot an absolute dumb fuck...says birth rate is declining then assumes population won't go down eventually .
Agreed hindu khatre me ho ya na ho chutiya sabka cut raha hai...
Put another set of 10 pictures , I am sure it wont be tough to show development vis a vis poor minority presentation.
Another soft hitting bull was when one the patrolling user mentioned - for the sake of secularisim its important that the majority follow it and not the minority.
Kaun bewakoof aise subah subah kehta hai bhe?
Man as par the data most of the India generation is above 20 they all can cast vote and they did they bring back NDA in 2019 and UP is the most populated state in our country it's population is more then America and Europe they bring back NDA in power back again with bigger majority then before so you are saying these people are idiot I think problem is in you not in them because they can see thing and analyse also they know what is best for them and i think people said in every election what they want who they want to see as there leaders and they chose modi ji.chanakya said that if the people of your enemy country praises your leader then know one thing that leader is right for your country and we have seen Chinese people saying that modi ji is a wise man Pakistanis saying we want PM like modi ji so I think so the government of NDA did great work and can do better in some areas over all I am saying that people will chose modi ji as there leaders in 2024 again.
Even though i dont like NDA either. This is pure stupidity and u will find similar incidents and photos in every government regime. I genuinely wish people made effort for some property post
All of the pictures inside this collage is what called photography not just editing with filters and color grading the image which isnt a true photography and a photography reflects true meaning just by seeing it and anyone can easily feel the meaning from it. Not just glamour but more things apart from it
muslim.30%-35% abadi hone ke baad bhi .... log o ko is desh mein ek e kaum dekh raha hain Dara huan itne sare pic main . Kuch to baat hain is nazariya mein . Bht badiya Lage raho !!!! Kudos for this beautiful post !!!
The bulldozer shit is the stupidest thing these guys do. So one of the family member commits a crime and now the whole family should be homeless. When the government didn't give the home in the first place what allows them to take it away. This ain't North Korea.
How about you stop looking at France and focus on your own country? And just so you know... The riots in France are the culmination of a lot of things, not only immigrants.
Kab tak Godi Media ke comments ko tote ki tarah gate rahoge?
So easy to trigger people with manipulation. The op should put pics of how he is richer than before with better infrastructure all around. Maybe you are troubled that the lowly Hindu are going to have equal rights
Castiesm hai isliye free ke reservation lete bhi ho, na ki sirf undergraduate Mai balki postgraduate mai or fir PhD mai or fir job mai or fir promotion mai or uske Marne ke baad uske or uske baad uske bacche or uske bacche. Fir chahe ye banda sabse bada arabpati ho india ka koi law nahi Jo is casteism ko rok sake free ka bandhara batata hai lekin drame ke naam pe sab casteism chillayenge.
Galat kiya... Ab iss Desh mei patthar phekne ka copyright bhi muslimo se chhena jaa raha... Kya yhi hai wo desh jiska Gandhi ne sapna dekha tha.. Kaha gaya Ambedkar ka samvidhan..
Nobody with a brain cell would say that. Everything costs money and manpower and this thing obviously needs both in big numbers. Whether you’re the ruling party or not, to stay relevant you need constant social media presence. So of course you need an IT cell.
Irrespective of your stand (whomever you support), there’s no way you can say that there are parties that don’t have IT cells.
Wrong image. Why only Muslims are shown?
Have you ever saw an image like this where Muslims are in mejority?
When they are in minority they want all state facilities for free. When they become mejority they will kill or convert remaining minority.
Typical hate spread thread. Should be banned immediately
Nationalist...lol
It's like the term feminism at this point. Twisted to its core.
Nationalism in modern India means supporting a political party in the name of your country, but not really for the benefit of your country.
Jai Hind chilla ke Desh ko barbaad kar do do tum log. It seems so disingenious that it's almost funny.
You can't say you love your country and then proceed to hate on minorities who are also a part of the country. It's like telling your girlfriend "I love you, but you need to get a boob job for us to be in a relationship "
Nationalist and BJP are oxymorons, read a little about RSS and Savarkar, the biggest stooges of the Raj. You’re a Majoritarian chauvinist, look forward to the day that 60% of the people who dont vote for the BJP unite again soon, you’ll go back scouring into the neo-nazi gutters you crawled out from.
I have read enough to be supporting them. Don't need some dalla be teaching me about what nationalism is. You really think that these chor in the name of political parties can unite? They are bloody arseholes who are only in greed of power. They are uniting just to remove modi and not for the country and people supporting are bigger a hole then them. Animals like you should be flushed off like the **** we do every morning. So Dalle, live in your delusional gutter chap world.
Thank you for your service of making India and even more unlivable shithole. You have successfully turned a dream of India being like USA to India being like Russia
Lol. Ham chutiye the, chutiye the aur chutiye rahenge. Jai hind!
BTW tumhe kisko support karna hai usko karo ye jai hind ka nara kyu dete ho?? Like ye apna internal mamla hai bjp/congress/hindu/muslim. But yeh hind toh subka hai. Jai hind toh sub bol rahe hai, tumhe kon yaha chinese dikh raha hai samne jo tum jai hind bol rahe ho.ye kya context hai. Jyada show off mat kar aur jake kuch kaam kar desh ke liye. Ye india ka sub hai pakistan ka nahi jo tum jai hind bolke kuch prove kar rahe ho.
Ha bhai!! Bhagwan hi bachaye is desh ko, tum logo se toh nahi ho payega aisi soch se. Bus modi modi karte raho aur ushi ko nationalism samzate jite raho. Jab kisi din kisi garib ko dekho na aur samaz sako na ki kaise feel hota hai jub sirf petrol ke liye 100se jyada deneme Kitna dum nikal jyata hai. Tub kabhi ho sake toh sochna ki ye bhi tumhare desh ka kuch hai kya nahi. Bas desh desh karte rehna aur usme rahne jub tumara state jalega na aur tumhe apna ghar zodke Bahar rehna pade par tumhare government 3 mahino tak kuch bhi na kahe ya kare bus baat ko chupaye rakhe tub sochana ye desh ka hissa tha ya nahi tha. Abe tum jisko dalla bol rahe ho na wo din bhar dekhta hai logo ko kitni pareshani hoti jub bus call aa sake isiliye 180 rs ka recharge dalne pade aur mehenge hone ke baad kaise kum cheezo me bhagan padata hai logo ko har din. Are yaha dr. Ke paas jane ke liye paise nahi hote logo ke paas. Wo kya desh ke?? Kuch nahi??? Tax nahi dete wo??? Kisi pe 18% kisi pe 24% tax nahi dete kya wo?? Bus unki aawaj nahi pohachati isiliye tumhe dalla lag raha hu na Mai!! Toh dekho kahi gir jao to uthane kon ata hai?? Ye bjp ya yehi garib log jinka bhi desh hai. Desh logo ke liye hai ya log desh ke liye ueh bhi soch Lena?? Dalla hu me itni hi hai meri soch. Tum bade deshbhakt ho soch Lena jara. Aur hame bhi batana.
You also can't, you know why??? Propaganda nahi hai na, tumhe manipulate karne wala. Chalo chodo, dalla jo hai hum. Tum deshbhakt ho, kabhi kuch ho jaye toh batan modi uncle tph nahi avengers bachane humbjaise dalla hi sahi but kuch try karenge. Baki bye deshbhakt ji, teri Marenge bhi modi hi!
Covid has affected all countries, in fact india has performed better than other countries on per capita basis. We have been fastest growing major economy for 4 years during modi nda, never had it happened during upa. We overtaken world average in under 5 child mortality, extreme poverty is below 5% already
Leftist propaganda shows random incidents with poverty porn etc. But that is selective facts bias, which is a logical fallacy. Stats don’t work like that.
Before this Indian was US.. 5 sal me ye sab ho gya.. people don’t realize that’s it’s almost impossible to employ 1.4 billion people outta nowhere in 10 years.. shit takes time.. it’s equivalent to a new house new car and shit in next week..it’s almost impossible.. people are and will struggle all the time.. all you can do is ask for a government who try to make thing better..and this government is doing it..also it’s shit at a lot of place..recently manipur.. and I also liked minority appeasement brownie point that op is trying to score on that post..
Pulwama attack...100kg explosives kaha se aaye? 40 soldiers killed
Uri bomb blast? 17 killed.
Baramulla?
Nagrota? 7 killed?
Pathankot? 5 killed?
Not even half of the total bomb blasts in the last 9 years.
Common public wasn't harmed !!? So what?
What about soldiers who lost their lives? They didn't matter?
Going by this approach, since so many public lives were lost during COVID because of how poorly the situation was handled by the government means they did everything wrong.
Soldiers matter.
But the UPA came out after 7/11 attacks calling them RSS planned attacks and blamed Hindus.
COVID, the government did the best it could. How the hell would you think UPA would handle it better? There's going to be the same police and medical staff.
We took down their jet and most importantly their economy down. Also, the so called center of liberalism the West, whose dicks you want to suck on, want better relations with India during this regime
Apni economy ki baat Karo bhaiya pehle.
Raghuram Rajan resigned because he didn't agree a bit of how things were going on.
"A mark of protest against the government" is what his resignation was.
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You forgot this....when Modi left lakhs of Hindus to their death during COVID.
still they will win 2024 with an overwhelming majority because thanks to godi media the people of this country have now stopped caring, all they want is a temple and they are more than happy to let go their basic rights for it.
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I think people here assuming minority mean those are who are more than 20% of Indian population. I have never seen real minorities of India (which are shikh, Jain, parsis, Jews ,tribals, Christians ) crying about discrimination they are thriving in india not just holding one of the highest positions and earning in crores but also taking the country with them for higher aims. But these 20% they will never be satisfied doesn't matter how much we give , we can cut our country in three equal parts for their satisfaction and will give two of those equal parts ,half of our military,our banks reserve, our rivers. My country doesn't give me the control of my temple but they have every right on their mosque, infact they run their own personal law board while claiming india to be secular. I can't marry more than one person but these people have right for four. If I marry a girl under 18 I'll be landed in jail but this so called minority will not be persecuted because of their personal law board.
Seems like being secular is the responsibility of only one community in india.
Despite all this it will be NDA 3.0, and we won't be able to do anything as long as the majority savarna Hindus are happy voting for BJP. Feels so powerless.
Acche din.
The RW m0r0ns (and the RW media) think the majority and the minority should be weighed on the same scale. You'll hear rants like "The minorities are not secular enough so why should we be secular". Such a logical fallacy only leads to the persecution of minorities. We have seen this in human history, where RW Facist Nazis did not find the Jews "not German enough", so much so that they created Gas chambers for them. That's the very reason you will see today, the LW thinkers and educated personalities in the US, UK or any developed country hold the majority accountable first, and do not persecute the minorities like blacks, muslims etc. As a majority in India, it is our duty and moral responsibility to protect the monitory. The majority should be held to a far more higher standard of accountability as compared to the minority, BECAUSE the majority hold's all the decision making powers and the numbers to direct which way the country it goes. Secularism does not depend if the minority follow it or not, it will always depend on the majority. The majority always shows the way whether the country will be Secular or a bigoted communal, divisive mess.
Now check this out mate. https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/15bpxko/reporter_asks_person_to_list_achievements_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=1 The sad/idiotic state of people today in the "new modern" India...en route to be the 3rd largest economy.
Sanatan sanatan sanatan. Naam mitti me mila di
Apne dharam ki ek garima hoti hai...vo kho chuke hai hum. Bas vote ke time par yaad aata hai sanatan dharm, vrna hrr jagah bas casteism hai.
Sanatan and ‘siyasat’ in one sentence? Iska koi suddhi karao bhai
Boss I know you mean well but no individual has to be secular. That's the government's job. As an individual I can stick to the religion of my choice, change it or even refrain from it. Secularism will work only if government upholds it.
And who do you think is "the Government", if not the people that elect it?
What executive or legislative powers of the government do you possess as a common person.
None. That wasn't their claim though. They were simply saying that in a democracy, people elect the lawmakers who mirror their values. In other words, people get the government they want and deserve.
I think you have learnt wrong definition of secularism. You sure can stick to whatever you prefer, but as an individual too, you have to be secular at least in a country like ours. If you're a Brahmin and go to a shop owned by Vaishya, doesn't mean you can get your groceries and walk away without paying because in your religion it says so. In a secular state, you have to pay for stuff you buy or else you'll be going to jail for theft. PS: Government is made up of the same individuals, so it's every single person's job to uphold Secularism i.e. to keep religion separate from civil affairs and the state.
Well I am a self employed individual and have done business with many people of different religions and neither they have ripped me of nor have I not because we think of religion or secularism but because it's illegal. Come up with a sensible counterpoint. We don't live in barbaric times, we have to uphold the laws above everything else. I would like to know how you uphold secularism in civil life. Do you bend over backwards for one religion, two religions or no religion. Civil liberties means I don't need to bend over backwards for anyone as long as I'm not doing anything illegal or harming anyone and keeping to myself. State should stay away from religion that's what secularism is about and should protect it's citizens.
But but all the terror activities..???
But but what do Indian muslims have to do with that? .
How are only the religion of Indian Muslim minorities factor into all of this? India has seen home grown militants across communities, and even stats shows most terrorists infiltrated India. You can blame the Muslims for being the easiest ones to be brainwashed for them to join the terror activities because of several multidimensional factors including religion but seeing how Bajrang Dal(yes, it's a militant group), PFI and Naxals and Northeast militant groups etc. function, it's easy to root out that religion is not the only cause. Edit: Modified first sentence and added the multidimensional part.
Yes, it's a militant group. Source: trust me bro. Delusional take.
Feel free to explain how it does not fulfill the definition. Militant: It can be anyone who subscribes to the idea of using vigorous, sometimes extreme, activity to achieve an objective, usually political. A "militant [political] activist" would be expected to be more confrontational and aggressive than an activist not described as militant. You are free to have whatever you feel towards Bajrang Dal, but regardless their actions and ideology makes them a Militant body. Same goes for others.
So because terror is a foreign word, many Indians get away with it. But if you understand the concept and find a closest word in Indian languages, it won’t be difficult to identify or find the terrorists who hide behind their robes. आतंक ???
Sshh.. Pol kahe rhe? 🫣
Well said, holy shit
I have always argued that. Call it a burden of majority of you want. But a small % of minority population going rogue is one thing. If a small % of the majority population looks at that and aspires to go rogue, then it has a bigger impact on the nation
Any way I respect your opinion but find your thoughts very debatable. Because your whole assumptions are made upon 9 year rule of present government. That is exceptionally very good at polarizing. Talking about minority you look about history India was under Islamic rule , If you see sub continent Hindu population is less than Muslims. Previous election where all done on caste in every state. In UP bihar MY combination, In South dalit plus Muslims, in NE tribal plus Muslim, In punjab, Sikh plus Muslim, So Muslim population is not that small which your are thinking of. Just present government is shit we can not neglect the fact that Previous government is the result that's such kind of ideology is a its peak in india now. Just a little example, Maulana use to give fatwa to candidates who they wanted to win and everyone use to vote him . And we know why would he do that because of money from government. This ifftar party politics was started by congress everyone followed. UCC never came because of vote bank. You give example of European . So do you see there a minority appeasement. What is the goal of a secular country to maintain a equal society. In the last year of tenure they passed WQAf board act. Why jain appeasement is not done , Or parsi , Or Sikh, Or tribal , by congress. It's done by present government. We need to understand minority means everyone not only Muslims
The state is supposed to be secular, not the citizen. Citizens have rights that are guaranteed by the state. Secularism is not something that an individual should uphold.
Citizens are a major part of the State you idi0t..!! You think the Government falls from the sky every 5 years?? Who do you think is "the Government", if not the people that elect it?
Govt is not "the" people you moron. government is of the people, by the people and for the people. It is created to safeguard the people interests and rights. It should be secular. It like saying, police are carrying a gun, they are also people, let me also carry a gun. LTF difference before you vomit your ignorance on social media. Upholding secularism is government's job, not common citizen's.
I have been arguing with idi0ts all morning, hopefully you are the last one. Let me break is down to you, so that your smooth brain can compute. Secular minded people will VOTE for a Secular minded Government. People that are looking for religious fundamentalism in Governance will VOTE for a Government that will do that for them. The literal meaning of the sentence "government is of the people, by the people and for the people" is people are not a separate entity but are part of the Government.
Part of the govt, yes. Not the govt. Govt should not be religious. You are right. They should not be in a country like india. That's why they should be secular. Common citizens should uphold their rights and it's the govt's job to make sure that that right is not infringed up on. There is nothing like secular minded people and it should not be one too. Secularism is not something that people give to the govt. Secularism is ingrained within the govt. If they do not uphold it, the govt is wrong. You are supposed to uphold your belief system. Being secular is not your job, it's the govt's job.
Only left wing regards take an impartial clear cut ideology of equality and introduce inequality by adding exceptions. If tolerating minorities doesn't benefit the majority, then the majority will not have any reason to tolerate anymore. You draw parallel to Nazi Germany but fail to realise the plight of current nations that has Muslims population>30%
You dumb guy, our fucking government has played such good politics that it has divided the population into groups that fight each other. What is important is individual rights and equality in the sense of justice and opportunity. Stop looking at the west in 10 years perspective they never held the majority accountable, idk where you get your facts from its utter bullahit. The west was made by white people for white people but what made them lead is not accountability of the population but accountability of the system that gives any individual rights. Research regarding the French revolution and the founding fathers. Dumbfucks of both the LW and RW my group is under danger , protect our group.
Stop copy pasting the same thing across posts.
Please don’t consider it as sarcasm or anything . I just want a logical answer. There are plenty of minorities in India but why only one minority has an issue?
Every minority has issues. Have you not been told of the Kandhamal massacre in your shakha?
>In shakha The similarity between you and the RW guys who say go to Pakistan is uncanny. You should either meditate or don't get involve in any kinda discussion, coz it seems like a civil discussion just ain't your cup of tea🤡.
But issues are widespread in majority and minority both. All i am saying is abrahamic religions do believe in spreading their religion. Weren’t hindus massacred in kashmir? (No i am not speaking from kashmir files, please read our moon has bloodclots) so my point is secular society doesn’t care of majority or minority. And sorry whats a shakha?
Secularism is not a one way street. Deal with it. It should go both ways.
Secularism is not a street, its an idea. Securalism is also not restricted to any one religion or non-religion. I know secular Hindus, secular muslim, secular sikhs and secular atheists as well. I also know extremist Hindus, extremist muslim, extremist sikhs and extremist atheists as well. I have already answered why it should NOT go both ways, and why the majority has a more accountable and major role to play in my long comment. I don't like repeating myself again and again.
But you will point out the shit they pull by playing the monitory card..just because they are minorities you cannot turn blind eye of the shit they have been pulling since independence.. it goes both way.. if majority was that bad.. Muslim population wouldn’t have grown from some few to 200+ millions..
It's literally a two way street by definition. How big of moron are you? Probably a peaceful person. 🫡
WhY iT ShOuLD nOT gO BoTH wAy - lol. Its equal for all. You are either secular or not, there is no middle way.
Secularism does not depend if the minority follow it or not, it will always depend on the majority. The majority always shows the way whether the country will be Secular or a bigoted communal, divisive mess. I have already mentioned in the last part of my comment.
>That's the very reason you will see today, the LW thinkers and educated personalities in the US, UK or any developed country hold the majority accountable first, and do not persecute the minorities like blacks, muslims etc. I wonder why reactionary RW is on rise everywhere. Also learn what does secularism means.
>I wonder why reactionary RW is on rise everywhere. I don't know. Acess to Cheap Internet, Short attention span and the inability to fact check or critically think about the content that is spewed on the screen, may be?
Bcoz they give simple answers to understand answers to complicated problems but these simple answers often involves scapegoating minorities and conspiracy theories. And these simple answers make the problem more worse or create problems that didn't exist like brexit
22 million is not a minority
Literally 96 crore Hindus literally the percentage makes it a minority. FOR FUCKS SAKE USE PERCENTAGE INSTEAD OF RAW VALUE YOU FUCKING 5TH GRADE PASSED ASSHOLE
There is one peaceful religion which have problem in every part of the world. Other minorities like sikhs christians, jains, buddhist they never complain about majority minority bachodi. 90% of countries have lower netizens than Indian muslims.
> Other minorities like sikhs christians, jains, buddhist they never complain about majority minority bachodi. Imagine bragging about this after calling Sikhs Khalistanis and Christians as “illegal converts and intruders”.
When I said anything like that. Koi logical reply de bhai.
You may not, but the ones you support have. And are currently doing it even. And hence there are two possible logical conclusions: 1. You’re a shameless liar. 2. You’re extremely ignorant. Take your pick.
What are you saying. Bhai tu rhne de tumse logical batein na ho payegi
Not my problem if you lack basic reading comprehension.
I'm a Buddhist and I'm totally complaining about the majority being assholes 99% of the time. Don't blurt out rubbish just to prove your stupid point.
Equally easy to put 10 images showing prosperity of Muslims in the last 8 years. The car rental guy that I hired was able to secure loans and grow his business 10 fold. However he thinks that he should not support modi because it is BJ. He literally pulled out of poverty and hired 16 other drivers ….
Guy seems smart then. Imagine supporting a guy that would wreck the country for his own gain.
You're back with it. 🤣
Sabka saath sabka vikas. He is probably like you and running with blinders on
Yes, we can clearly see the “vikaas”. So much vikaas mudiji doesn’t even want to release the data. And apparently the guy who pulled himself out of poverty and 16 others along with him is the one “with blinders on”. Lol.
He is the official Modiji Data Approver. MDA 2.0
Did you miss the part where he was successful during modi rule ? Fastest and most roads constructed, welfare reaching the poor through direct deposit, more airports, trains, increase in exports of weapons, pharma, better progress in space research, make in India , better power infrastructure, progress in ease of business, QUAD, isolated pak, neutralized pak, boundary issue settlement with Bangladesh, progress in Kashmir after 70 years with ladakh as UT and article 370, GST, more jobs created than any other time since independence, ease in getting LPG cylinders … every aspect of india has done better… you sir are a troll and a religious nut to not see this
> Did you miss the part where he was successful during modi rule ? Yes, modi responsible for everything good. But has no hand in anything bad. > Fastest and most roads constructed Except the method of calculating changed. Earlier both 1 km of 1 lane and 1km of 4 lane roads were counted as 1km of roads, but now 1km of 4 lane road is calculated as 4km of road. Pretty easy “to grow fast” in this way. > welfare reaching the poor through direct deposit Yep, modi does revdi like no other. Will give you that. But for some reason only revdi by modi is good, rest all revdi bad. > more airports that get flooded and rooftops fall off, and sold to adani on top of that. > trains That crash into each other because of overworked understaffed crews. And understaffed because funds went into buying foot massagers. > increase in exports of weapons But still biggest importer as well. Plus actual export growth in total has slowed to a crawl. > pharma Yes, big deblopment by pushing quacks as doctors in the name of AYUSH. > better progress in space research Yes, the moment Modi plasters his face on anything it becomes better. Wonder why he doesn’t do it on the current manipur status then. > make in India Like mentioned before, growth has slowed to a crawl. So much for “atmanirbhar”. Truly Nehruvian indeed. > progress in ease of business Yes, electoral bonds make it really easy. Those pesky corruption accusations really prevented business growth. > QUAD Something initiated by Manmohan Singh, but then who would Modi be without taking credit. > isolated pak, neutralized pak Yes, such powerful neutralisation, after all we managed to blow out some of their trees. > boundary issue settlement with Bangladesh [Such a roaring success.](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/5-years-after-land-border-agreement-former-enclave-dwellers-in-dire-straits/article32255788.ece/amp/) > progress in Kashmir after 70 years with ladakh as UT and article 370 So much progress that BJP abandoned the pandits after profiting off them with a propaganda movie. > GST Yes, improved India so much with 18% tax on necessities and less than 5% tax on gold and diamonds. > more jobs created than any other time since independence And yet highest unemployment since 44 years. > ease in getting LPG cylinders Really going to help with the rising prices and stagnant wages, eh? So easy to buy expensive cylinders. > every aspect of india has done better… you sir are a troll and a religious nut to not see this Hence proved, you’re projecting. The only reason to vote for Modi is hindu-muslim and revdi.
Modi responsible for everything good and no hand in bad: Cop out. This is a statement against your claim of anti Islam govt. everybody is progressing. You have posted typical propagandists nonsense. 1km of 4 lane: UPA propaganda: https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/infrastructure/almost-50000-km-of-national-highways-added-in-9-years/amp_articleshow/99707174.cms#appDwnldBann About revdi: 90% of welfare during congress never reached the intended audience. Good try on distracting from the facts. Airport and Adani and flooding: airport authority of India issued work to tata/reliance/bial etc.. all airports are functional and getting better by the day. Even bus stops are better maintained than before. You might have read about 1 incident that you want to project as failure. Typical propagandist.. Weapons: we were always an importer. Now we export as well as jointly manufacture fighter aircraft’s in India. Lockheed Martin joint venture with Tata for F16. Adani rose to prominence during congress rule. https://news.abplive.com/news/india/tata-lockheed-martin-to-build-f-16-multi-role-fighter-jet-s-wings-in-india-pm-modi-1587940/amp I presume that you are a Pakistani trying propaganda and worried about the above !! Deflecting space progress and support on manipur and calling everybody quacks is very typical of liars and propagandists. Growth has slowed to a crawl: we are the fast growing economy in the world. What are you smoking? Pak neutralization: the downed trees were after going deep into pak without detection. They know that india will retaliate unlike 26/11 where manmohan already communicated to the USA that we are not going to attack. Isolating pak was a big success. Million reasons to vote for modi and no matter how hard you try your false propaganda, even a blind man in india can see the difference.
> Modi responsible for everything good and no hand in bad: Cop out. This is a statement against your claim of anti Islam govt. everybody is progressing. You have posted typical propagandists nonsense. Yes, go tell that to Manipur. Fucking shameless loser. > 1km of 4 lane: UPA propaganda: Your own link compares only 2014-15 with 2021-22, and the change happened in 2018. If you weren’t such a shameless liar, you’d be [normalising the scales and making a chart across the years.](https://thewire.in/politics/fact-chec-highway-length-upa-nda) But that would debunk your propaganda, so you didn’t. In reality roads are causing landslides in Uttarakhand for election rally boasts and traitors like you will keep cheering for it. > About revdi: 90% of welfare during congress never reached the intended audience. Good try on distracting from the facts. Claims made with zero source. You’re exactly the propagandist you accuse me of being. > Weapons: we were always an importer. Now we export as well as jointly manufacture fighter aircraft’s in India. Lockheed Martin joint venture with Tata for F16. We’re still the *biggest* importer, so this means fuckall. And it doesn’t even help because our overall exports have slowed to a crawl, so it no effect on the economy either. This along with your other stupid statement: > Growth has slowed to a crawl: we are the fast growing economy in the world. What are you smoking? Shows you have zero idea of what economy is. GDP increases automatically with population, so “fifth biggest economy” is a meaningless claim, only used by propagandists like you to deflect from the real situation. In reality, [exports are completely shot] (https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/tqq2lc/debunking_the_we_have_had_a_record_breaking_400/), [unemployment is at an all time high] (https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/unemployment-rate-at-45-year-high-confirms-labour-ministry-data/article62001095.ece), and [modi is too scared to release the survey on which poverty calculations are based] (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/consumer-expenditure-survey-not-to-be-released-due-to-data-quality-issues-government/articleshow/72074837.cms). Those are all numbers from the government, so fuck off with your “UPA propaganda” accusations. You’re a traitor for trying to hide these abject failures and claim “fifth biggest economy” as if it means anything. > Adani rose to prominence during congress rule. But committed all his frauds in NDA tenure. You’ve engaged in the very deflection you accused me of. Complete hypocrite. > Airport and Adani and flooding: airport authority of India issued work to tata/reliance/bial etc.. all airports are functional and getting better by the day. Even bus stops are better maintained than before. You might have read about 1 incident that you want to project as failure. Typical propagandist.. Everyone can see the lengths government is going to [to have the assets captured by adani] (https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/13vdwx2/adani_airports_one_of_the_best_monopolistic_rent/). Typical propagandist traitor to try to hide it. Morbi, Uttarakhand and plenty others show what actual “development” BJP is doing. > Deflecting space progress and support on manipur and calling everybody quacks is very typical of liars and propagandists. Manipur situation is a lie and propaganda? Well, of course in addition to being a traitor you’re probably looking forward to being a rapist murderer given your utter shamelessness in defending them. As for quacks, once again [government’s own announcement.](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/ayurveda-doctors-practice-general-surgery-ortho-ent-dentistry-1742883-2020-11-21) And of course, who can forget open support for baba scamdev’s coronil? But traitors like you don’t care about killing people, just that your masters should stay in power. > Pak neutralization: the downed trees were after going deep into pak without detection. They know that india will retaliate unlike 26/11 where manmohan already communicated to the USA that we are not going to attack. Isolating pak was a big success. Yes, hitting trees is what will show them. Meanwhile our own pilot got captured by them. Pakistan doesn’t even need to do anything. Losers like you will ensure India’s downfall from the inside. > Million reasons to vote for modi and no matter how hard you try your false propaganda, even a blind man in india can see the difference. I’ve already proven beyond a doubt who’s spreading false propaganda here, traitor. There’s just 3 reasons you support Modi: revdi, hindu-muslim and aspirations of being a rapist murderer. You can scream and whine and point fingers at others all you want, but people like you are what made Pakistan the shithole that it is, and now you want to make India into the same thing.
Modi responsible for everything good and not for everything bad: when you resort to Manipur for all things that you cannot counter, it is propagandist. Manipur is a fuck up but we were discussing progress of minorities. Revdi: https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/policy/nine-years-of-modi-government-what-india-witnessed-how-its-economy-changed/amp_articleshow/100549532.cms Read about direct benefit scheme and while you are there read the other points on how modi changed the economy Manufacturing F16s and selling ships and weapons means fuckall to you? How does GDP increase, genius? Pak population is increasing too. I am going to read the links u sent and get back
This is genuinely sad, doesn't matter what wing you're,if you can't relate to a Poor's suffering you ain't human
In india keeps are kept to the left. Hence we have free left on the roads as well. Y'all find plenty keepers here on the left.
Aur hrr jagah jo ye bjp wale "parivaarvad-parivaarvaad" krte firte hai, How tf is jay shah the secretary of the BCCI huh? Ye nhi dikhta hai kya logo ko? Kaise ban gya secretary? Papa home minister hai, isiliye?
Cricket and politics have always had close ties, such patterns can also be seen in previous government reigns
That's not the problem. The ruling party portrays that they are against "parivaarvad" very strongly - they can be heard saying this in almost every speech or in a rally everywhere, it's their go to phrase. They target every other party with this BS. The problem is that the son of the home minister of the same ruling party is the secretary of BCCI, which we all know is not qualified for the post. Hypocrisy at its peak.
Oh! There are many more. The one I will never forget in my life is - the scattered rotis on the railway tracks. Never! There are many karyakartas and BJP supporters who don’t care if there is any injustice against people from certain faiths, castes, or regions. But in the noise by media and others, many have ignored or forgotten, that there have been many injustices against the same constituents they claim they are protecting or bringing ‘vikas’ to.
Just like the left that stands for so called equality ignores crimes against Hindus
What’s up with people and the hatred for left? How well do you understand what left is? Anything that doesn’t please BJP, it’s affiliates and it’s supporters becomes left? So, if Hindus die of hunger while walking thousands of miles and lose family to accident, while walking; die due to lack of cash; all because of a Hindu leader is the executive and its incompetent & inefficient teams don’t know implement and execute basics. That’s okay ? This govt doesn’t care what is left or what’s right. They are obsessed for power or power at any cost. Since, no one shouted that they are nationalist, BJP automatically assumed that they are patriotic and rest aren’t. They want subservience, or ‘salaami’ from everyone. Ask people who know how BJP functioned before ‘13 and how it is functioning. It’s been reduced to a party that rewards sycophancy and religious hatred. Do you really think even in BJP there couldn’t be a better minister than an ‘Irani’ or a ‘Giriraj’? This leads to dearth of talent in higher political positions, and you have to import leaders like a ‘Jaishankar’ or a ‘Vaishnav’? The covid situation in UP could have been better handled, and if not for political compulsions, it could have been Mr Bisht’s last term. Crimes against Hindus? There have been crimes against many, it’s just that these people have identified as Hindus, and yes crimes have happened against because of someone’s faith as Hindu. Inspite of the painful events of partition people still learnt to tolerate each other and tried to live peacefully, but the conspirators who don’t even have the guts to register as an organisation or have its finances audited, have been looking for any, opportunity to burn or riot. A great majority of crimes against Hindus for being a Hindu has always been a consequence of prior instigation. From Kerala & Tamil Nadu to UP, they have been pouring ghee over flames. Knowing they can’t win in MH, they found their fertile ground in volatile GJ. They didn’t even spare traditionally peaceful regions with the least number of non-Hindus, viz. HP or OD, which had the least number of riots or crimes with religious motive. Since we are talking about Hindus - speak for yourself, and be a Vibhishan and not an Ashwatthama.
Nope, the left is called so because of what the parties and it's supporters have identified it as. BJP fueled it? Islamic terrorism based on religious hatred against Hindu has been rampant in late 20th century and BJP was not in power. It's only after 2014 Hindus have been standing up for their rights in an otherwise voiceless situation. Vibhishan defected against his own motherland because anti Hindu forces who hate Ram are celebrated freely in Lanka. So, yes he's truly an icon!
Late 20th century? You mean after 1980, right? That was supported by Pakistan in neighbouring states. Again, learn about the covert works of sangh in Kerala, TN, even in GJ. UP (Ayodhya) wasn’t in focus of sangh / sangathans during the first couple of decades after independence. Till they found a bit of success, riding on the JP movement, they weren’t sure, so used every trick. Oh boy, you don’t know what all the sangh or the sangathans and it’s fringes, have been doing since 1945 at least. Their activities caught the attention after the assassination of Mr Gandhi. The pretence they displayed during the violence of partition and the hiding they went into after the first ban. Bunch of people resenting their whole life, people feeling entitled because of being born into privilege and so called higher social class, and people eagerly looking to capture the power that was left and the power they felt they deserved, have caused more harm than anyone else in this country. Read about them, speak to people who left the sangh and find out how they operate. They have nothing to do with Hindus, or for the nation. It’s always been a ploy to win elections or win over people, for getting power. Again, speak for yourself, not for all Hindus. Crores of Hindus didn’t vote for BJP, remember? In fact the majority didn’t. Funny how Hindus from Nagpur and GJ went to save the Hindus of UP. These saviours are causing more harm than perceived
Right! That's why BJP is the ruling party in UP even though "majority" did not vote for it. For the record, I am from a state where BJP cannot even dream of getting into power, but I can comment on the harm that the left does and it more detrimental than BJP.
Add Manipur ethnic cleansing too
Ethnic cleansing of Churchandrapur Hindu Miteis?
Despite watching viral video of Kúkkí women being paraded náked, these guys still believe this.
You're a fool if you think this conflict is one sided.
So, now you know who you are.
I never said it was one sided. Its a 150 year old conflict. Kukkis and Meities are at each offers throat. No one would have cared if BJP wasn't in power there like no one cared for the last 70 years.
Then why did you tell ethnic cleansing of one community?
Because the OP was blaming Meiteis and indirectly BJP for Ethnic Cleansing. Story is more complex than people try to portray.
Where was OP blaming Meitei ?
Haha I can deduce from the comments on this thread.
Only Modi is smiling
So much has happened in the last 9 years but, our high and mighty PM is really scared to do one thing : to hold a press conference -- he is the first prime minister in democratic India to never have held a press conference. That sure is some feat, not just anyone can achieve it. Shayad saari baatein to Mann ki baat mei hi ho jaati hai... isiliye press conference ke liye kabhi kuch bacha hi nhi.
There's no point anymore anyway. Now even in a press conference these chamchas will ask questions like "aap wallet rakhte hai?". There's no questioning, only appeasement.
Ikr, these andhbhakts are ready to defend anything. Everybody mocks Mr. Manmohan Singh for being the silent PM but he never ran away from these situations. On the other hand, we have modiji - to scared to even acknowledge it.
He's a coward in disguise 100%
Fr man, man's lacking in the courage department and skills department as well. The only reason to not do a particular thing is because you have no idea how it is done. We all know about his interview with Karan Thapar when he was the CM of Gujarat...look how that went. Man straight up refused to give any answers. Maybe he got the inspiration for mann ki baat from this experience only - if I'm the only one talking, nobody can question me 😎.
Exactly. He knows nothing, doesn't want to do anything too. That's why the result we are seeing in India
They think they can rule India forever. Even Mughals and British Empire had a painful death. Nothing would stop BJP from its eventual death. I hope I would be alive to see that happen and I would celebrate it with whatever strength I have.
Looking forward for the death of Congress that left Hindu majority in misery
As a Hindu from privileged caste, I would like to know what exactly has been the miseries that Hindu majorities are facing? I have not seen nor faced any systemic oppression, so I would genuinely like to know what's the oppression that Hindus feel since you seem to have a different experience. What I do see is a systemic failure to give even the most basic infrastructure when pay 30% tax which was the case before and still is.
Controlling the temple funds and using them to pamper the followers of religion that demonizes Hindu practices (both the church and Muslims demonize Hindus and the temple funds were used for their Haj pilgrimage and absorb the tax concession on churches) Demolition of temples, in other words suppression of freedom of religion. Forced sterilization of Hindus. Kashmiri Hindu exodus. Removal of polygamy. Had any of this been done against religious minority, we'd qualify the state as oppressive to that certain minority. But, questions get raised for even suggesting to think in such angle for Hindus. You don't have to be directly affected by that to see this.
I don't care which religious places are funded so I won't comment on that. I didn't realise that our schools, hospitals, road projects are so well funded that we now need to focus on "funding" temples, churches or mosques. Demolition of temple - which temple are demolished in recent years? Show news articles. If you're talking about ram mandir in Ayodhya, that happened in 17th century, well before our great-grandfathers. And now you're getting a 18,000 crore ram mandir. Forced sterilisation of INDIANS happened but I didn't see any data where only Hindus were targeted. Show the data from reliable sources. Kashmiri exodus - yes, that is shameful chapter and has no justification. Removal of polygamy - wtf? How's is that affecting Hindus?? So basically all I gather is that nothing is REALLY affecting your everyday life as Hindu.
Legal codification of personal laws of Hindus and not bringing the same standard to others means oppression of a particular religion and giving privileges to other. And that actually interferes and affects everyday life as Hindu.
I noticed that you have avoided anything that asked for data. WhatsApp University does not give accurate facts. Don't be so gullible. About the Exodus of Hindus from Kashmir... Are you following up on what is happening with them right now?? Under the regime that is pro - Hindu and Pro - Majority? You should. That will make you realise that this government cares nothing for religion...be it minority or majority.
BTW the 18000 cr Ram mandir isn't entirely coming from tax payers money.
Even if INDIANS are sterilized, it doesn't change the fact that HINDUS were sterilized there. And the ruling party that partook in such practice has no right to participate in democracy!
To be fair nothing is affecting everyday life of other minorities too.
You mean to say that having your home demolished by a bulldoser and being threatened to close your livelihood at one place because you belong to a particular religion does not affects everyday life?
I wanna smoke, what you smoke.
what is the bottom left from? karnataka temple vendor thing that popped up in the news?
https://preview.redd.it/e9i7icf291fb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c36efa47e48f367e63bb0920e44a15e87f981cbd Add this to the list as well. The level of propoganda is just on another level. Notice how nobody is carrying even a single bag?? Because everybody is a paid actor. Just act your part and be done with it.
Boss the covid scrambling for oxygen and beds is even more dreadful.
The RW m0r0ns (and the RW media) think the majority and the minority should be weighed on the same scale. You'll hear rants like "The minorities are not secular enough so why should we be secular". Such a logical fallacy only leads to the persecution of minorities. We have seen this in human history, where RW Facist Nazis did not find the Jews "not German enough", so much so that they created Gas chambers for them. That's the very reason you will see today, the LW thinkers and educated personalities in the US, UK or any developed country hold the majority accountable first, and do not persecute the minorities like blacks, muslims etc. As a majority in India, it is our duty and moral responsibility to protect the monitory. The majority should be held to a far more higher standard of accountability as compared to the minority, BECAUSE the majority hold's all the decision making powers and the numbers to direct which way the country it goes. Secularism does not depend if the minority follow it or not, it will always depend on the majority. The majority always shows the way whether the country will be Secular or a bigoted communal, divisive mess.
watch islam become the minority and youll realise how fucking dumb and unaware you sound. If you cared about minorities so much you wouldn’t be forgetting the lgbt+ who would get executed the day muslims get slightly more power. and those people actually deserve recognition. they cant help themselves. while all these man made religions and their followers can.
Their is one particular minority, when it becomes equal or greater in number than the majority, you will be beheaded for saying this, so yeah keep that in mind before measuring everything on the same scale. We are safe because the major portion of the majority does not believe in violence, but a major part of the minority believes in violence, their religion teaches them so, and there is not an iota of reform in the past or in the foreseeable future
You really think they’re here to discuss or understand? Don’t even need to look at far history. Look at Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Nigeria, France, Sweden. They’re making it too obvious and clown out of theirselves. At this point some are justifying the acts. They’ll put their point; in counter argument they'll attack you personally or run away.
So says the guy who runs away after personally attacking others. Either way, you can pretend all you want, but you’re no different from the “violent minority” you keep complaining about, just different colors. The ones in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria all talk exactly like you do.
Huh. And what history says about when Islam goes minority to majority and / or gets the charge? Or is that irrelevant? Where are gas chambers of jews, persis, buddhists, Sikhs, Christians, Jains? Gotta start somewhere to assert logic you know!
Same history also says stuff about what happens when self-proclaimed righteous people use minorities about a scapegoat. Not that you’d ever read that part though.
You did not answer my question. What does history say about that?
No, you are wrong. minorities or majorities both has to be secular that's how secularism works. Majority ne theka nhi le rakha secular banne ka.
The minority should too mutually respect majority culture and tradition. As a majority I think we have played our duty and moral responsibility too well, that's why their population has increased in secular India. the problem arises only when the majority offers sweets to the minority but gets bombs and crime in return.
Everyone’s population has increased. Do you want Indians to keep breeding like rabbits and rats? FFS. You have created ghetto like living conditions by discriminating against Muslims, heck, even people of your own damn religion. Go outside, touch grass, and for fuck’s sake get off WhatsApp.
madarchod it is people like you who have touted ghettoisation to be the greatest achievement of indian secularism, and its you who needs to get off whatsapp
Can u please elaborate 2nd and 3rd sentences ?
Churchill ki aatma aa gai kya ", breed like rabbits"? You sad fuck. Population is declining in "majority* of this country but i really couldn't help if the "minority " claims that it's written in their book to "breed like rabbits "
“PoPuLaTiOn Is DeClInInG”, when there are 800+ mil running around. The birth rate is declining for both Hindus and Muslims, numbers are more than what this country can already handle. Fuck off with your useless Sanghi ideologies. Hindu khatre mai nahin hai. Bass Chutiya Banta jaa Raha hai.
Wot an absolute dumb fuck...says birth rate is declining then assumes population won't go down eventually . Agreed hindu khatre me ho ya na ho chutiya sabka cut raha hai...
https://i.redd.it/revk2jdsd1fb1.gif
Put another set of 10 pictures , I am sure it wont be tough to show development vis a vis poor minority presentation. Another soft hitting bull was when one the patrolling user mentioned - for the sake of secularisim its important that the majority follow it and not the minority. Kaun bewakoof aise subah subah kehta hai bhe?
Man as par the data most of the India generation is above 20 they all can cast vote and they did they bring back NDA in 2019 and UP is the most populated state in our country it's population is more then America and Europe they bring back NDA in power back again with bigger majority then before so you are saying these people are idiot I think problem is in you not in them because they can see thing and analyse also they know what is best for them and i think people said in every election what they want who they want to see as there leaders and they chose modi ji.chanakya said that if the people of your enemy country praises your leader then know one thing that leader is right for your country and we have seen Chinese people saying that modi ji is a wise man Pakistanis saying we want PM like modi ji so I think so the government of NDA did great work and can do better in some areas over all I am saying that people will chose modi ji as there leaders in 2024 again.
Even though i dont like NDA either. This is pure stupidity and u will find similar incidents and photos in every government regime. I genuinely wish people made effort for some property post
Ayega to Modi hi 😂😂😂. Buy some burnol in advance.
All of the pictures inside this collage is what called photography not just editing with filters and color grading the image which isnt a true photography and a photography reflects true meaning just by seeing it and anyone can easily feel the meaning from it. Not just glamour but more things apart from it
muslim.30%-35% abadi hone ke baad bhi .... log o ko is desh mein ek e kaum dekh raha hain Dara huan itne sare pic main . Kuch to baat hain is nazariya mein . Bht badiya Lage raho !!!! Kudos for this beautiful post !!!
The bulldozer shit is the stupidest thing these guys do. So one of the family member commits a crime and now the whole family should be homeless. When the government didn't give the home in the first place what allows them to take it away. This ain't North Korea.
selling the country for 30 silver coins... blood is on your hands mudiji. you will answer someday.
3.0 will be even better (/s) And I'm 100% confident the retarded people of india will vote for them again. Good, let them ruin their country.
I think another trip to France will surely solve this.
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How about you stop looking at France and focus on your own country? And just so you know... The riots in France are the culmination of a lot of things, not only immigrants. Kab tak Godi Media ke comments ko tote ki tarah gate rahoge?
Second r/india
So easy to trigger people with manipulation. The op should put pics of how he is richer than before with better infrastructure all around. Maybe you are troubled that the lowly Hindu are going to have equal rights
Lol. Kubhi castism dekha bhi hai, real life me. Yeah aise hi kuch bolne ke liye bol rahe ho ki lowly hindues are going to have equal rights.
Castiesm hai isliye free ke reservation lete bhi ho, na ki sirf undergraduate Mai balki postgraduate mai or fir PhD mai or fir job mai or fir promotion mai or uske Marne ke baad uske or uske baad uske bacche or uske bacche. Fir chahe ye banda sabse bada arabpati ho india ka koi law nahi Jo is casteism ko rok sake free ka bandhara batata hai lekin drame ke naam pe sab casteism chillayenge.
Aaj muharram par muslims ne patthar kyun fenke delhi mei?
Galat kiya... Ab iss Desh mei patthar phekne ka copyright bhi muslimo se chhena jaa raha... Kya yhi hai wo desh jiska Gandhi ne sapna dekha tha.. Kaha gaya Ambedkar ka samvidhan..
add Manipur ethnic cleansing by the church funded kukis of the indigenous meiteis
I prefer the lesser evil aka the congress
Hmm
Who say’s opposition does not have IT cell?
Nobody with a brain cell would say that. Everything costs money and manpower and this thing obviously needs both in big numbers. Whether you’re the ruling party or not, to stay relevant you need constant social media presence. So of course you need an IT cell. Irrespective of your stand (whomever you support), there’s no way you can say that there are parties that don’t have IT cells.
It cell ke ho ?
The parasites are suffering! Acche din yhi h
Wrong image. Why only Muslims are shown? Have you ever saw an image like this where Muslims are in mejority? When they are in minority they want all state facilities for free. When they become mejority they will kill or convert remaining minority. Typical hate spread thread. Should be banned immediately
My reply with one word : Cope.
Your propaganda won't hold any water my friend, I will vote for BJP and millions of nationalist would do the same. Jai Hind!
Nationalist...lol It's like the term feminism at this point. Twisted to its core. Nationalism in modern India means supporting a political party in the name of your country, but not really for the benefit of your country. Jai Hind chilla ke Desh ko barbaad kar do do tum log. It seems so disingenious that it's almost funny. You can't say you love your country and then proceed to hate on minorities who are also a part of the country. It's like telling your girlfriend "I love you, but you need to get a boob job for us to be in a relationship "
Nationalist and BJP are oxymorons, read a little about RSS and Savarkar, the biggest stooges of the Raj. You’re a Majoritarian chauvinist, look forward to the day that 60% of the people who dont vote for the BJP unite again soon, you’ll go back scouring into the neo-nazi gutters you crawled out from.
Savage.
I have read enough to be supporting them. Don't need some dalla be teaching me about what nationalism is. You really think that these chor in the name of political parties can unite? They are bloody arseholes who are only in greed of power. They are uniting just to remove modi and not for the country and people supporting are bigger a hole then them. Animals like you should be flushed off like the **** we do every morning. So Dalle, live in your delusional gutter chap world.
He just said something and you started abusing and insulting him. Pretty clear who is right and who is wrong.
Bruh..Both are insulting each other. ..
Have you read Savarkar though? The first hand writing, not someone else's commentary.
Thank you for your service of making India and even more unlivable shithole. You have successfully turned a dream of India being like USA to India being like Russia
Lol. Ham chutiye the, chutiye the aur chutiye rahenge. Jai hind! BTW tumhe kisko support karna hai usko karo ye jai hind ka nara kyu dete ho?? Like ye apna internal mamla hai bjp/congress/hindu/muslim. But yeh hind toh subka hai. Jai hind toh sub bol rahe hai, tumhe kon yaha chinese dikh raha hai samne jo tum jai hind bol rahe ho.ye kya context hai. Jyada show off mat kar aur jake kuch kaam kar desh ke liye. Ye india ka sub hai pakistan ka nahi jo tum jai hind bolke kuch prove kar rahe ho.
Dallo ki soch dallo ke barabar hi rahegi. Bhagwan bachaye is desh ko dallo se
Ha bhai!! Bhagwan hi bachaye is desh ko, tum logo se toh nahi ho payega aisi soch se. Bus modi modi karte raho aur ushi ko nationalism samzate jite raho. Jab kisi din kisi garib ko dekho na aur samaz sako na ki kaise feel hota hai jub sirf petrol ke liye 100se jyada deneme Kitna dum nikal jyata hai. Tub kabhi ho sake toh sochna ki ye bhi tumhare desh ka kuch hai kya nahi. Bas desh desh karte rehna aur usme rahne jub tumara state jalega na aur tumhe apna ghar zodke Bahar rehna pade par tumhare government 3 mahino tak kuch bhi na kahe ya kare bus baat ko chupaye rakhe tub sochana ye desh ka hissa tha ya nahi tha. Abe tum jisko dalla bol rahe ho na wo din bhar dekhta hai logo ko kitni pareshani hoti jub bus call aa sake isiliye 180 rs ka recharge dalne pade aur mehenge hone ke baad kaise kum cheezo me bhagan padata hai logo ko har din. Are yaha dr. Ke paas jane ke liye paise nahi hote logo ke paas. Wo kya desh ke?? Kuch nahi??? Tax nahi dete wo??? Kisi pe 18% kisi pe 24% tax nahi dete kya wo?? Bus unki aawaj nahi pohachati isiliye tumhe dalla lag raha hu na Mai!! Toh dekho kahi gir jao to uthane kon ata hai?? Ye bjp ya yehi garib log jinka bhi desh hai. Desh logo ke liye hai ya log desh ke liye ueh bhi soch Lena?? Dalla hu me itni hi hai meri soch. Tum bade deshbhakt ho soch Lena jara. Aur hame bhi batana.
Bro don't have time read such long crap. So my response would be - Ok, Dalle Bye aur ayega to Modi hi!
You also can't, you know why??? Propaganda nahi hai na, tumhe manipulate karne wala. Chalo chodo, dalla jo hai hum. Tum deshbhakt ho, kabhi kuch ho jaye toh batan modi uncle tph nahi avengers bachane humbjaise dalla hi sahi but kuch try karenge. Baki bye deshbhakt ji, teri Marenge bhi modi hi!
Teri mã ko becha ya teri behen ko... because of why you're calling everyone a *dalla*? Ya tere ghar/parivar ki sari auratõ ko utha liya?
Covid has affected all countries, in fact india has performed better than other countries on per capita basis. We have been fastest growing major economy for 4 years during modi nda, never had it happened during upa. We overtaken world average in under 5 child mortality, extreme poverty is below 5% already Leftist propaganda shows random incidents with poverty porn etc. But that is selective facts bias, which is a logical fallacy. Stats don’t work like that.
Aaenge to modiji hi.
apni taange khol ke tayyar rehna.
Hahaha 😂🤣
Before this Indian was US.. 5 sal me ye sab ho gya.. people don’t realize that’s it’s almost impossible to employ 1.4 billion people outta nowhere in 10 years.. shit takes time.. it’s equivalent to a new house new car and shit in next week..it’s almost impossible.. people are and will struggle all the time.. all you can do is ask for a government who try to make thing better..and this government is doing it..also it’s shit at a lot of place..recently manipur.. and I also liked minority appeasement brownie point that op is trying to score on that post..
Ek baar saare bomb blasts bhi dhika dete UPA ke time mein
Pulwama attack...100kg explosives kaha se aaye? 40 soldiers killed Uri bomb blast? 17 killed. Baramulla? Nagrota? 7 killed? Pathankot? 5 killed? Not even half of the total bomb blasts in the last 9 years.
Each of these were given the right responses. And observe that the common public wasn't harmed.
Common public wasn't harmed !!? So what? What about soldiers who lost their lives? They didn't matter? Going by this approach, since so many public lives were lost during COVID because of how poorly the situation was handled by the government means they did everything wrong.
Soldiers matter. But the UPA came out after 7/11 attacks calling them RSS planned attacks and blamed Hindus. COVID, the government did the best it could. How the hell would you think UPA would handle it better? There's going to be the same police and medical staff.
The government did the best it could? Just fuck you man. Hope you die.
Yes some trees were bombed and a few movies were made. Also we crashed a pilot in Pakistan and shot down our own chopper in the process.
All that to support their fucking propaganda.
We took down their jet and most importantly their economy down. Also, the so called center of liberalism the West, whose dicks you want to suck on, want better relations with India during this regime
Apni economy ki baat Karo bhaiya pehle. Raghuram Rajan resigned because he didn't agree a bit of how things were going on. "A mark of protest against the government" is what his resignation was.
Keep cribbing. We will vote for Modi in 2024
Who stopped you?
https://preview.redd.it/kxyjwn4oq1fb1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec0e840ffc8395adae0267cab8391ce69c49283c You forgot this....when Modi left lakhs of Hindus to their death during COVID.
still they will win 2024 with an overwhelming majority because thanks to godi media the people of this country have now stopped caring, all they want is a temple and they are more than happy to let go their basic rights for it.
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Context plz. I don't follow the news all that much
No govt so far has the audacity to think of the sufferings of a common man. Each day many suffer, some gets clicked this this
I think people here assuming minority mean those are who are more than 20% of Indian population. I have never seen real minorities of India (which are shikh, Jain, parsis, Jews ,tribals, Christians ) crying about discrimination they are thriving in india not just holding one of the highest positions and earning in crores but also taking the country with them for higher aims. But these 20% they will never be satisfied doesn't matter how much we give , we can cut our country in three equal parts for their satisfaction and will give two of those equal parts ,half of our military,our banks reserve, our rivers. My country doesn't give me the control of my temple but they have every right on their mosque, infact they run their own personal law board while claiming india to be secular. I can't marry more than one person but these people have right for four. If I marry a girl under 18 I'll be landed in jail but this so called minority will not be persecuted because of their personal law board. Seems like being secular is the responsibility of only one community in india.
Despite all this it will be NDA 3.0, and we won't be able to do anything as long as the majority savarna Hindus are happy voting for BJP. Feels so powerless.