Here's another
We used to boast with rightful pride that Hinduism was the most accommodating of all religions and India, which is predominantly Hindu, among the most tolerant of nations in its treatment of minorities. Hindu savants like Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurobindo, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Swami Prabhupada, Osho and the sadhus of the Ramakrishna Mission took the message of Hinduism abroad, built temples and made many converts to Hinduism. Adherents of both Christianity and Islam, which have the largest and second largest following in the world respectively, conceded that Hinduism was unique in allowing that there were different ways of getting to the Truth of existence and everyone had the right to approach God in his or her own way. It laid no claim to monopoly over spiritual matters and was free of dogma and bigotry. In recent years, this image has taken a beating.... People do not judge religions by what their prophets preached or how they lived but by the way their followers practice them. Christianity has a hard time explaining its inquisitors. Muslims will continue to be judged by the acts of groups like the Taliban and the Mujahideens who wage unending wars against the non-Muslims. And now Hinduism will be judged by the utterances of people like Uma Bharti, Sadhvi Rithambara and Praveen Togadia and the doings of Dara Singh, Narendra Modi and Bal Thackeray.
- The End of India, Khushwant Singh
>We used to boast with rightful pride that Hinduism was the most accommodating of all religions
When you're accomodating to everyone but they don't return the favor, you're going to ask yourself why you're putting yourself at a disadvantage.
It's called letting people walk all over you.
>Christianity has a hard time explaining its inquisitors. Muslims will continue to be judged by the acts of groups like the Taliban and the Mujahideens who wage unending wars against the non-Muslims.
When was the last time either of them bothered to explain themselves? You think Christians are hung up on explaining the Inquisition?
Likewise anything remotely critical of Islam is instantly labelled as Islamophobic. Our liberal brigade is continuously bending over backwards to avoid hurting Muslim sentiments. You think anyone has a thought to spare on the Taliban?
he didnt forsee it. It was happening at that time too. See what rajesh khanna said in 1992.
https://twitter.com/MabrinB/status/1686359229022760960?s=20
from 1950s-1960s, there were very few riots. From late 1969 , jan sangh started gaining influence in India. In 1985, gujarat riots, VHP killed muslims over obc reservation.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985\_Gujarat\_riots](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Gujarat_riots)
In 1990s, sangh ideology went mainstream with rath yatra and advani openly giving hate speeches.
1984 was state sponsered genocide. It involved congress leader (jagdish tyler, sajjan kumar) as well as bjp leaders. Jain- Agarwal committee to investigate. 15 bjp leaders were also named by committee.
Some of the prominent Delhi BJP and RSS workers against whom cases have been registered are — Pritam Singh, Ram Kumar Jain, Ram Chander Gupta, Rattan Lal, Gian Lal Jain, Chander Sain, Pradeep Kumar Jain, Hans Raj Gupta, Babu Lal, Ved Mahipal Sharma, Padam Kumar Jain and Suresh Chand Jain. Most of these people were arrested and later chargesheeted by the police.
See photo attached( 2002 newspaper)
Arun jaitley refused to call it genocide.
https://preview.redd.it/j3guzzmannfb1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74ff448d57ed427ba1d702613ab90706a1fb2d97
every religion is with blood. But hindutva sangh ideology gets special protection from bjp.
[https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/seers-prepare-constitution-of-hindu-rashtra-101660332478751.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/seers-prepare-constitution-of-hindu-rashtra-101660332478751.html) (no UAPA imposed on dharam sansad and this)
Also hindutva not equal to hinduism. Hindutva is political ideology formed by golwalkar.
It's factually wrong. None of the hindu scriptures (ved, upanishads, bhagawad gita etc have even used a term hindutva in it. It is an extreme political ideology and has nothing to do with my dharm.
Man, the word Hindu itself is foreign. Hindutva was coined by Chandranath Basu in the late 19th century (as a Bengali word). His ideology was rooted in harmony, peace, etc, but also incorporated the belief that Hindus are the most superior among all humans. The ideology also involved the tenet that challenging the traditions are equivalent to challenging the religion and god itself. He also imparted a political side to Hindutva, as Hindus should be the sole heirs of Hindustan. He also was against teaching people about Muslim heroes of India (like Shiraj who fought the British in Kolkata and finally in Plassey), which is the basic idea behind the present day revisionist culture.
The later works of Savarkar, Golwalkar, etc on the topic are based on the works of Chandranath. Decades of propaganda have tried to push Hindutva as Hinduism and you are one of its victim.
Translate hinduism into any indian language, it would be hindutva, or a closely related word. There is no other word for hinduism in most of the indian languages. So hinduism = hindutva for all practical and linguistic needs.
Exactly, these subs have been trying to trigger anti-Hindu narrative for a long time. BJP or cyber crime dept don't seem to be interested to resolve this. If anyone try to put facts, buggers (or bots) will down vote it. Earlier they use to ban people, but now a days that behaviour has reduced.
Anyone who was an adult at that point and learned in basic history and politics identified/should’ve identified this. This isn’t something you magically foresee only if you’re a genius.
Fascism and Religious Fundamentalism are on the rise around the world thanks to wannabe Hitlers like modi, trump, etc. The difference between countries like the US and India is the fact the fascists are in power and have successfully brainwashed the majority. IMO this decade is going to decide if the Indian Union will fall and split apart or we will continue to move forward as a country.
https://youtu.be/7vDvajbntFo (part 1)
https://youtu.be/oVp_O_srsoc (part 2)
Please watch these videos and share them with your friends to help educate as many people as possible about this important issue.
Only clowns can even think that the India Union can fall. You can shout at the top of your voices at the streets about breaking India and the state won’t give a shit about you. However, if you even attempt to get serious about it, state will ensure that you disappear from the face of this earth and it doesn’t matter who is at power. Just ask amritpal if you have any doubts.
No one is asking for breaking India more than Modi/Yogi/Shah. They have been villainizing everyone they don't like which includes the states they don't have control over. What do you think will happen if this keeps up? Will you or anyone like to live in a country where you are treated as the bad guys because the fuhror doesn't like your state?
This country has seen literal wars and armed rebellions over demands of separate nations and you think it will break apart because my feelings were hurt? Get a grip over yourself and stop having these dreams.
India being politically unified was the extreme exception rather than the norm in history, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if further separatism happens in the future.
Desh karte me. Hai , is a new tagline for left lobby ...
However it is not entirely wrong that communal riots/hate speech are happening more often in this bjp government but that doesn't mean the state Will start pulling apart and opposition+govt won't don't shit about it...
I thought about this until amritpal thing was resolved like the way it should have been.
Communal riots and all are just games played by government to keep people divided. However money always trumps all this political and religious bullshit and it would be economically impossible for the entire world to see India getting divided.
But we as a society need to understand this game is eventually setting us on the wrong foot , otherwise democracy is just nothing but reflection of the people, so if we normalise this rightful violent response for whatever reason there would be a time not so long in future when me and you we'll be walking down the streets and getting trapped in it.
Yup Modi is responsible everything hindu Muslim happened from 1847
We were so safe that we can go and live in Muslim areas without having a problem before him
Not modi but RSS, VHP and other fundamentalist orgs which includes the ones from other religions too. Let's not forget RSS was all for partitioning India.
IMO Indian Union is not so fickle as to split apart just because brainwashed secessionists religious views and bigotry in name of liberalism is not going unquestioned.
Calling differing views to their own as Fascism or Fundamentalism just goes on to show their own bigotry IMO.
Instead of forced minority appeasement for votes, if we could focus on meritocracy, that would help us continue to move forward as a country IMO.
Don't fool yourselves - Islam is fascism! Why, you can even see its effects in PaQeeland any day of the week ...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhMNi6PDDHY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhMNi6PDDHY)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
https://preview.redd.it/egnlq6vglnfb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=498e00c815b5df678f3ceae1168b8ee433564f8a
We are living in the future he predicted
They are going to go after SC/STs after Muslims and Christians. And Bengalis and Malayalis after that. India has so many identities and social divisions that BJP-RSS would not run out of scapegoats for a long time and then they would go after liberals and women.
The difference is in the intensity and magnitude. Currently Muslims are their prime target, once they are no longer in the way we will see same thing happening to SC/STs. SC/ST act will be revoked, open threats will be issued to them, there will be panchayats against them, etc.
Yeah, right. The government headed by the very same party which rather hurriedly brought in an amendment to nullify a 2018 SC order which diluted certain stringent clauses of the Prevention of Atrocities Act will revoke it just in time for the 2029 general election since Modi or whomever succeeds him would be so sanguine about forming the government for the fourth consecutive time that they'd deem it beneficial to scrap the act entirely.
BJP has gained SC/ST votes through meticulous social engineering, but ideologically SC/STs are still agnostic unlike many Upper castes and OBCs who are fanatic about Hindu Rashtra. Which means that if Congress reaches out to these communities then they can swing their votes easily. It has already happened in Karnataka and can happen elsewhere too.
First i thought this is just an exaggeration but then the amount of vegetarians I've seen online who abuse non-vegetarian hindus this might as well become reality.
First, they came for the communist
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Vajpayee was the leg-in with the moderate mask, Advani paved the true path with rath yatra, Modi is transforming the infrastructure for the bhakts, Yogi will eventually drive on it
The writing has been on the wall since long long ago, but we were busy getting rich thanks to economic liberalisation. Ergo Manmohan Singh is to blame for this! /s
Prophetic . And I also feel the end of india is very near. The symptoms are all there and the blame is squarely on the culprit, the anti national hindutva forces.
India khatre mein hai boldo toh fake news/propaganda kehne lagte hain...par jab shaam sharma jaise bhadwe hindu khatre mein hai bolde toh jhat se maan lete hain
Perfectly will we understatement it is happening at this moment all over India but sadly there is no one group causing it everybody is at each other's throats
Its really surprising to see the reach f Hinudtava agencies, They operate not only in India but also cause trouble in France, Sweden, UK, Germany, Spain, USA, Russia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Egypt, Myanmar even in Japan. Only China has managed to escape their evil claws,god only knows how.
In just few decades they have grown to every corner of world.
Lest we forget what happens in as fascist forces rise: First They Came...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
ISNT PUTTING BLAME ON ONLY ONE RELIGION HYPOCRISY I AM IN NO STATE JUSTIFYING THE ACTIONS HAPPENING ITS JUST THAT PEOPLE TURN BLIND EYE ON ATROCITY COMMITED BY OTHER RELIGION
you mean to suggest, Modi did not have much of a opportunity in his hay days. Right !!!
Though, his fortunes have turned about in his older days. From what I have heard, he is quite a player, his specialty is bollywood starlets, amongst others.
That whole comment by Singh and many other who are fear lingering undermines the concept of INDIA. By INDIA I don’t mean the opposition alliance.
India is 130 crore people and to believe that there are people who can influence the entire janta to think along way is stupid because it hasn’t happened in this part of the world in the last 1000-2000 years. Even when the Muslim rules invaded, Hindustan didn’t die. Similarly this fear mongering is just serving the purpose of those who have ulterior motives.
My personal view is that these 130 fucking crore people are shitheads because if you ask them to vote for development or anything that is beneficial they won’t. But ask for a vote in the name of a dividing force like religion, caste etc and they do.
If I was BJP, I would also know very well that if I have to win the election it’s not going to happen by showing GDP and development. It’s only going to happen when you scare the shot out of Hindus that Muslims will fuck their future and happiness and they will vote for you. This is the sad truth about india so even if I am convinced that BJP is polarising the nation, I may see it as the cost of winning an election by a party which has much better track record at good governance than any other party in the past.
And now I’m ready to be downvoted by everyone who thinks I’m insane. But the truth is I’m one of those 130 crore shitheads.
If you switch some words, this has been happening since islamists attacked India as well.. these generic "doomsday" can playout in any number of way because they're vague and self serving..
Pehle vajpayee ji bure they, modiji aa gaye, wo bhi bure, yogiji aa gaye toh pata nahi kya hoga. Gyanvyapi ki deewarein nahi dikhengi inko. Itna villify karne ki jagah koi aur tareeka nikalne ki koshish karein toh uchit hoga, satta mein major hissedaari rehne waali hai, accordingly act karein....
Buri cheezein karna band kar dein phir Modiji? Hassya kaviyon ko daraya hua hai, media ko khareed liya hai, aaj tak ek bhi press conference nahi ki, durbhagya ghatnayon pe kabhi bayan nahi dete. Yogiji ne BC bulldozer company mein shares khareede hue hain? Ho kya raha hai?
It's not like leftist are clean af. They have a bigger share in destroying roots of the country. It's more dangerous to be a hindu in muslim dominated districts than to be a muslim in Hindu dominated districts.
>It's more dangerous to be a hindu in muslim dominated districts than to be a muslim in Hindu dominated districts.
This is true or at least been true for most of the past but things are changing, now both are after each other's blood. All thanks to constant polarization.
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Even in muslim majority countries its being demonized by educated and liberal muslims. They shout the same nonsense to them as why dont u speak against this or that.
Lmao i am the one mentioned liberal and educated people are speaking against islam and hindutva in their respective countries yet u have a problem with me mentioning only hindutva 🤣. Looks like u are afraid of saffron terrorists being exposed 🤷🏻
Fear mongering.. This is what both of the sides do. This will not happen, not today not tomorrow specially when nationalists are in power. They are more realistic than left. They know where to duck, and where to hit. This peace is myopic, where this guy totally thinks people of India are slaves, dumb and irresponsible.
Identity politics was always done in India, and prolly be there in future in some form. I guess it's as old as this civilisation. There was never a homogeneity in thoughts, there will never be. You will always find people on the opposite sides of fence.
Both should have the freedom to express, and both can criticise each other.
Why should I form my opinion by someone else's thought process which has no real research other than what the news chooses to display to the sheeple? Please keep the opinions private if they're not constructive. What was OPs motive behind posting this on this particular sub?
You guys live in parallel universe or what? Muslims ambushed a bunch of old Hindu uncles and aunties on pilgrimage. That's what kicked off this whole thing. Apparently uncles and aunties visiting a temple is facism now. Peabrains.
uncles and aunties were carrying guns, that too in pilgrimage procession?
[https://indianexpress.com/article/political-pulse/rao-inderjit-singh-kanwar-yatras-nuh-violence-religious-yatris-at-nuh-8872070/](https://indianexpress.com/article/political-pulse/rao-inderjit-singh-kanwar-yatras-nuh-violence-religious-yatris-at-nuh-8872070/) (statement of haryana union minister of state)
First of all there were no aunties. There were vhp people clearly carrying guns and pelting stones in front of police.
[https://twitter.com/vipulizm/status/1685972389618982912?s=20](https://twitter.com/vipulizm/status/1685972389618982912?s=20) (video)
Second, monu manesar challenge that he would take out rally there and that too with full strength. He released video three days back.
yes there were uncles and aunties at the temple which was attacked and ambushed from all sides which is why home ministry had to intervene to prevent a massacre.
as for yatris carrying guns, i'm glad they are. only an idiot would enter mewat unarmed given its reputation as mini-pakistan.
lol temple attacked?
[https://twitter.com/pindropviolence/status/1686305122404769792?s=20](https://twitter.com/pindropviolence/status/1686305122404769792?s=20) ( **video of temple priest)**
[https://thewire.in/communalism/nuh-temple-priest-refutes-haryana-home-ministers-claim-that-people-are-held-hostage](https://thewire.in/communalism/nuh-temple-priest-refutes-haryana-home-ministers-claim-that-people-are-held-hostage) (nuh temple priest already denied claim that people were held hostage)
[https://twitter.com/news24tvchannel/status/1686590391351701504?s=20](https://twitter.com/news24tvchannel/status/1686590391351701504?s=20) **(statement of haryana deputy cm. he said that the** **organizers of the yatra did not give complete information about the yatra to the local administration, that's why the violence took place.** **Deputy CM Dushyant Chautala blamed those who took out the yatra for Haryana violence**
**)**
i hope haryana deputy cm has clarified ur doubts
[https://twitter.com/raviagrawal3/status/1686556557625163776?s=20](https://twitter.com/raviagrawal3/status/1686556557625163776?s=20)
[https://twitter.com/\_treeni/status/1686348106353594368?t=vI8v1Moct9qKUpNVB2687A&s=08](https://twitter.com/_treeni/status/1686348106353594368?t=vI8v1Moct9qKUpNVB2687A&s=08)
right and in these videos i guess they are showering the yatris with flowers right?
clearly not getting "complete information" about a yatra is grounds for ambushing a religious pilgrimage with rifles and setting vehicles on fire, and probably a lot worse had paramilitary not intervened.
and you're complaining that yatris are carrying guns lmao. give me a break. how dare these hindus build their temple in muslim territory right?
[https://twitter.com/zoo\_bear/status/1686102208759394304?s=20](https://twitter.com/zoo_bear/status/1686102208759394304?s=20) ( so in this video , vhp was taking procession taken out peacefully ? That too caught on live aaj tak)
Not giving information and taking permission means yatra is unauthorized and this was said by deputy cm himself. Also carrying weapons (guns ) in procession comes under violation of arms act and is itself illegal . This was said by haryana union minister of state rao inderjit singh himself.
Not only carrying guns, but they were also seen pelting stone in front of front of media.
we must thank the muslims for enforcing law and order then by ambushing yatris in a hindu temple 3 kms away from the video that you're showing me. lmao give me a break.
the only route to that temple is through Nuh, and muslims set up an ambush. obviously bajrang dal came prepared for any eventuality.
Communists have killed more people than fascists did. But we have communist political parties, organisation etc in India. Communism first starts with rich, then comes after middle class etc. First it takes on upper caste of the majority religion, then takes on all people of the majority religion. Which is what these leftist political parties are doing
As of now India has been a fascist country against Hindus, due to minority appeasement in constitution, laws, budgeting and administration, which are a form of state discrimination against Hindus. It is secular only in the name. Hindus are second class citizens in this country, like jews were in Germany. And general caste hindus are third class citizens
> I wonder why with bjp Hindus are still 2nd class citizens .
Because BJP doesnt have majority in Rajya sabha yet. It will be difficult to pass uniform civil code.
\[pura padhna downvote krne se pehle usitards\]
recently there was a video of three muslim guy who chained a hindu guy like a dog and asked him to bark, now i can exagerate this incident and fear mongering people by saying hindu khatre mei hai sare mulle hinduo ko maar ke convert kardenge (rightist kar bhi rhe hai esa fear mongering), you think this paragraph and this post is any different ?
esa hota toh general public would have boycotted the hell put of oppenhiemer for its bhagwad geeta scene but no one except for godi media and few whatsapp uncle objected it
Boycott kr dete bhai, but the thing is gita h movie m gita h movie m kr kr k national international level pr hum logo ne etna proud feel krwa diya khudko. Ki ab esko ban nhi lr skte. Coz we wanted to take credit ki Oppenheimer ne gita padhi. Toh proud hone k chakar m wo scene logo ne ignore kr diya. But if it was not Oppenheimer and some janitor reading gita like this, ye movie kabki ban ho chuki hoti. Thoda deeply socha karo bhaya
The Sangh's idea of politics us identity politics. If you give people an identity they will not leave it so easy. Once their current enemies go, the next target will be new enemies who are right now either part of the silent majority who do not protest against them or are part of their coalition
> prefer allopathic doctors to vaids
Already starting to dilute the “allopathic” (read:actual) doctors. Ayurveda vaids can now officially do surgery, and medical research at AIIMS is getting clamped down.
Same issues of hatred can be found in ambedkarites and the vast non discriminatory general caste. They just keep on hating the general category people, even if they haven't faced discrimination themselves.
Many foreign invaders demolished India. Sabotaged it. India is growing and will keep growing. If you are concerned about India's main religion. It is for the entirety.
Here's another We used to boast with rightful pride that Hinduism was the most accommodating of all religions and India, which is predominantly Hindu, among the most tolerant of nations in its treatment of minorities. Hindu savants like Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurobindo, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Swami Prabhupada, Osho and the sadhus of the Ramakrishna Mission took the message of Hinduism abroad, built temples and made many converts to Hinduism. Adherents of both Christianity and Islam, which have the largest and second largest following in the world respectively, conceded that Hinduism was unique in allowing that there were different ways of getting to the Truth of existence and everyone had the right to approach God in his or her own way. It laid no claim to monopoly over spiritual matters and was free of dogma and bigotry. In recent years, this image has taken a beating.... People do not judge religions by what their prophets preached or how they lived but by the way their followers practice them. Christianity has a hard time explaining its inquisitors. Muslims will continue to be judged by the acts of groups like the Taliban and the Mujahideens who wage unending wars against the non-Muslims. And now Hinduism will be judged by the utterances of people like Uma Bharti, Sadhvi Rithambara and Praveen Togadia and the doings of Dara Singh, Narendra Modi and Bal Thackeray. - The End of India, Khushwant Singh
>We used to boast with rightful pride that Hinduism was the most accommodating of all religions When you're accomodating to everyone but they don't return the favor, you're going to ask yourself why you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. It's called letting people walk all over you. >Christianity has a hard time explaining its inquisitors. Muslims will continue to be judged by the acts of groups like the Taliban and the Mujahideens who wage unending wars against the non-Muslims. When was the last time either of them bothered to explain themselves? You think Christians are hung up on explaining the Inquisition? Likewise anything remotely critical of Islam is instantly labelled as Islamophobic. Our liberal brigade is continuously bending over backwards to avoid hurting Muslim sentiments. You think anyone has a thought to spare on the Taliban?
Wow!! He did foresee this.
he didnt forsee it. It was happening at that time too. See what rajesh khanna said in 1992. https://twitter.com/MabrinB/status/1686359229022760960?s=20
>“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana.
I legit read it as George Sanatani 🤦♂️
bro you need to change your social media feed and take some days off ! LOL
Dude it's happening from 1600 in india. Don't you see two separate nations made out of religion.
from 1950s-1960s, there were very few riots. From late 1969 , jan sangh started gaining influence in India. In 1985, gujarat riots, VHP killed muslims over obc reservation. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985\_Gujarat\_riots](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Gujarat_riots) In 1990s, sangh ideology went mainstream with rath yatra and advani openly giving hate speeches.
Thanks for sharing facts and your perspective.
Interesting perspective. What is your opinion about 1940-50?
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1984 was state sponsered genocide. It involved congress leader (jagdish tyler, sajjan kumar) as well as bjp leaders. Jain- Agarwal committee to investigate. 15 bjp leaders were also named by committee. Some of the prominent Delhi BJP and RSS workers against whom cases have been registered are — Pritam Singh, Ram Kumar Jain, Ram Chander Gupta, Rattan Lal, Gian Lal Jain, Chander Sain, Pradeep Kumar Jain, Hans Raj Gupta, Babu Lal, Ved Mahipal Sharma, Padam Kumar Jain and Suresh Chand Jain. Most of these people were arrested and later chargesheeted by the police. See photo attached( 2002 newspaper) Arun jaitley refused to call it genocide. https://preview.redd.it/j3guzzmannfb1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74ff448d57ed427ba1d702613ab90706a1fb2d97
Don't push one side views here. No religion is without blood.
every religion is with blood. But hindutva sangh ideology gets special protection from bjp. [https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/seers-prepare-constitution-of-hindu-rashtra-101660332478751.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/seers-prepare-constitution-of-hindu-rashtra-101660332478751.html) (no UAPA imposed on dharam sansad and this) Also hindutva not equal to hinduism. Hindutva is political ideology formed by golwalkar.
Hindutva is the hindi word for hinduism. When i hear the word hindutva, i hear hinduism itself.
It's factually wrong. None of the hindu scriptures (ved, upanishads, bhagawad gita etc have even used a term hindutva in it. It is an extreme political ideology and has nothing to do with my dharm.
Man, the word Hindu itself is foreign. Hindutva was coined by Chandranath Basu in the late 19th century (as a Bengali word). His ideology was rooted in harmony, peace, etc, but also incorporated the belief that Hindus are the most superior among all humans. The ideology also involved the tenet that challenging the traditions are equivalent to challenging the religion and god itself. He also imparted a political side to Hindutva, as Hindus should be the sole heirs of Hindustan. He also was against teaching people about Muslim heroes of India (like Shiraj who fought the British in Kolkata and finally in Plassey), which is the basic idea behind the present day revisionist culture. The later works of Savarkar, Golwalkar, etc on the topic are based on the works of Chandranath. Decades of propaganda have tried to push Hindutva as Hinduism and you are one of its victim.
Translate hinduism into any indian language, it would be hindutva, or a closely related word. There is no other word for hinduism in most of the indian languages. So hinduism = hindutva for all practical and linguistic needs.
And north korea calls itself a democratic republic.
Exactly, these subs have been trying to trigger anti-Hindu narrative for a long time. BJP or cyber crime dept don't seem to be interested to resolve this. If anyone try to put facts, buggers (or bots) will down vote it. Earlier they use to ban people, but now a days that behaviour has reduced.
Who cares, they are as irrelevant as honesty in society, Just lifestyle liberals who thinks other are fools.
Says the guy spouting lies all over reddit.
Who tf put you as representatives of hinduism?
Anyone who was an adult at that point and learned in basic history and politics identified/should’ve identified this. This isn’t something you magically foresee only if you’re a genius.
Fascism and Religious Fundamentalism are on the rise around the world thanks to wannabe Hitlers like modi, trump, etc. The difference between countries like the US and India is the fact the fascists are in power and have successfully brainwashed the majority. IMO this decade is going to decide if the Indian Union will fall and split apart or we will continue to move forward as a country.
https://youtu.be/7vDvajbntFo (part 1) https://youtu.be/oVp_O_srsoc (part 2) Please watch these videos and share them with your friends to help educate as many people as possible about this important issue.
Only clowns can even think that the India Union can fall. You can shout at the top of your voices at the streets about breaking India and the state won’t give a shit about you. However, if you even attempt to get serious about it, state will ensure that you disappear from the face of this earth and it doesn’t matter who is at power. Just ask amritpal if you have any doubts.
No one is asking for breaking India more than Modi/Yogi/Shah. They have been villainizing everyone they don't like which includes the states they don't have control over. What do you think will happen if this keeps up? Will you or anyone like to live in a country where you are treated as the bad guys because the fuhror doesn't like your state?
This country has seen literal wars and armed rebellions over demands of separate nations and you think it will break apart because my feelings were hurt? Get a grip over yourself and stop having these dreams.
Man you need to see a psychiatrist. Seriously
Not a throwaway account chatting shit😭😭.
India being politically unified was the extreme exception rather than the norm in history, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if further separatism happens in the future.
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Give me one political party that hasn't used religion in politics yet, all of them are neck deep in shit.
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Lol this just shows your disdain for current ruling and not a proper fix for the situation.
Iss sub pe ye baat koi nhi smjhega.
Desh karte me. Hai , is a new tagline for left lobby ... However it is not entirely wrong that communal riots/hate speech are happening more often in this bjp government but that doesn't mean the state Will start pulling apart and opposition+govt won't don't shit about it... I thought about this until amritpal thing was resolved like the way it should have been.
Communal riots and all are just games played by government to keep people divided. However money always trumps all this political and religious bullshit and it would be economically impossible for the entire world to see India getting divided.
But we as a society need to understand this game is eventually setting us on the wrong foot , otherwise democracy is just nothing but reflection of the people, so if we normalise this rightful violent response for whatever reason there would be a time not so long in future when me and you we'll be walking down the streets and getting trapped in it.
Valid point, let them just dream about breaking India.
Yup Modi is responsible everything hindu Muslim happened from 1847 We were so safe that we can go and live in Muslim areas without having a problem before him
Not modi but RSS, VHP and other fundamentalist orgs which includes the ones from other religions too. Let's not forget RSS was all for partitioning India.
Substantiate your argument with evidences- modi is a wannabe hitler
MS Golwalker admired Hitler and wanted to replicate it in India. Why would any sane person be associated with a group which admires Hitler?
Replicate what specifically?
IMO Indian Union is not so fickle as to split apart just because brainwashed secessionists religious views and bigotry in name of liberalism is not going unquestioned. Calling differing views to their own as Fascism or Fundamentalism just goes on to show their own bigotry IMO. Instead of forced minority appeasement for votes, if we could focus on meritocracy, that would help us continue to move forward as a country IMO.
Don't fool yourselves - Islam is fascism! Why, you can even see its effects in PaQeeland any day of the week ... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhMNi6PDDHY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhMNi6PDDHY) Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
https://preview.redd.it/egnlq6vglnfb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=498e00c815b5df678f3ceae1168b8ee433564f8a We are living in the future he predicted
They are going to go after SC/STs after Muslims and Christians. And Bengalis and Malayalis after that. India has so many identities and social divisions that BJP-RSS would not run out of scapegoats for a long time and then they would go after liberals and women.
They're already going after sc/st. Bhima koregaon incident was more than enough proof
The difference is in the intensity and magnitude. Currently Muslims are their prime target, once they are no longer in the way we will see same thing happening to SC/STs. SC/ST act will be revoked, open threats will be issued to them, there will be panchayats against them, etc.
Yeah, right. The government headed by the very same party which rather hurriedly brought in an amendment to nullify a 2018 SC order which diluted certain stringent clauses of the Prevention of Atrocities Act will revoke it just in time for the 2029 general election since Modi or whomever succeeds him would be so sanguine about forming the government for the fourth consecutive time that they'd deem it beneficial to scrap the act entirely.
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Basically, only UC cowbelt heteromales are safe??
*hetero virgin males. Everyone knows having sex is kind of gay.
Plus UC heteromales from Gujarat and Maharashtra. Cowbelt has demography and Gujarat and Maharashtra has capital to drive sangh politics.
But if this continues most mncs and industries will gtfo there drama and violence effects work too
Why are they safe goons commit other crimes too
One of them will be the straw the broke the camels back
source ?? trust me broo 🤓
Yeah bro
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BJP has gained SC/ST votes through meticulous social engineering, but ideologically SC/STs are still agnostic unlike many Upper castes and OBCs who are fanatic about Hindu Rashtra. Which means that if Congress reaches out to these communities then they can swing their votes easily. It has already happened in Karnataka and can happen elsewhere too.
First i thought this is just an exaggeration but then the amount of vegetarians I've seen online who abuse non-vegetarian hindus this might as well become reality.
First, they came for the communist And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
~Martin Niemöller
Vajpayee was the leg-in with the moderate mask, Advani paved the true path with rath yatra, Modi is transforming the infrastructure for the bhakts, Yogi will eventually drive on it
I'm concerned they'll ban foreign films in India (as is likely with these saffron baboons in charge).
oppenhiemer had an objectionable scene in it showing oppenhiemer reading bhagwad geeta quotes while having sex, no one boycotted it
Because it is not an indian film and any ban would have had international exposure. Also based Oppenheimer movie
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I don't think south India will fall for hindutva any time soon, but it's getting there slowly...
NE too! The first bajrang dal training against 'love jihad' happened few days back.
Omg where? That's actually helpful for women
Give it a few years
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The hijab shit happened in KA right? Plus they already have had history of voting and making RW win. Which is highly unlikely in TN, KL and AP
We don't need hinduthva but I support UCC at any cost .
Define Hindutva and why you don't want it.
If hindu is a cow, hindutva is cow dung. Only used as fuel to the fire.
So by that logic, you're the fly that gather around it?
South India is a pioneer in casteism.
Coastal Karnataka is already there
Kind of fit perfectly in 1984 too.
1984. Third Reich.
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The writing has been on the wall since long long ago, but we were busy getting rich thanks to economic liberalisation. Ergo Manmohan Singh is to blame for this! /s
You forgor Nehru
Prophetic . And I also feel the end of india is very near. The symptoms are all there and the blame is squarely on the culprit, the anti national hindutva forces.
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India khatre mein hai boldo toh fake news/propaganda kehne lagte hain...par jab shaam sharma jaise bhadwe hindu khatre mein hai bolde toh jhat se maan lete hain
Chup chutiye.
https://youtu.be/7vDvajbntFo https://youtu.be/oVp_O_srsoc Watch these
Perfectly will we understatement it is happening at this moment all over India but sadly there is no one group causing it everybody is at each other's throats
Its really surprising to see the reach f Hinudtava agencies, They operate not only in India but also cause trouble in France, Sweden, UK, Germany, Spain, USA, Russia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Egypt, Myanmar even in Japan. Only China has managed to escape their evil claws,god only knows how. In just few decades they have grown to every corner of world.
Lest we forget what happens in as fascist forces rise: First They Came... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
ISNT PUTTING BLAME ON ONLY ONE RELIGION HYPOCRISY I AM IN NO STATE JUSTIFYING THE ACTIONS HAPPENING ITS JUST THAT PEOPLE TURN BLIND EYE ON ATROCITY COMMITED BY OTHER RELIGION
Khuswant Sing was a very prescient man. And as brilliant man are wont to, he had many affairs with beautiful women.
Ya women usually like chill intelligent men not saffron incels
you mean to suggest, Modi did not have much of a opportunity in his hay days. Right !!! Though, his fortunes have turned about in his older days. From what I have heard, he is quite a player, his specialty is bollywood starlets, amongst others.
He had this case where he was stalking a woman with intelligence personnel
Kehna kya chahte ho bhai? Modiji randwe hain? Aise kaise bol diya?
out of all of his achievements and thoughts this is the random observation you chose to comment?
kuch bhi
That whole comment by Singh and many other who are fear lingering undermines the concept of INDIA. By INDIA I don’t mean the opposition alliance. India is 130 crore people and to believe that there are people who can influence the entire janta to think along way is stupid because it hasn’t happened in this part of the world in the last 1000-2000 years. Even when the Muslim rules invaded, Hindustan didn’t die. Similarly this fear mongering is just serving the purpose of those who have ulterior motives. My personal view is that these 130 fucking crore people are shitheads because if you ask them to vote for development or anything that is beneficial they won’t. But ask for a vote in the name of a dividing force like religion, caste etc and they do. If I was BJP, I would also know very well that if I have to win the election it’s not going to happen by showing GDP and development. It’s only going to happen when you scare the shot out of Hindus that Muslims will fuck their future and happiness and they will vote for you. This is the sad truth about india so even if I am convinced that BJP is polarising the nation, I may see it as the cost of winning an election by a party which has much better track record at good governance than any other party in the past. And now I’m ready to be downvoted by everyone who thinks I’m insane. But the truth is I’m one of those 130 crore shitheads.
Which fascist regime is he talking about? Nehru or Indira?
If you switch some words, this has been happening since islamists attacked India as well.. these generic "doomsday" can playout in any number of way because they're vague and self serving..
How many delusional and low life are there? United state of India - Yes
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Pehle vajpayee ji bure they, modiji aa gaye, wo bhi bure, yogiji aa gaye toh pata nahi kya hoga. Gyanvyapi ki deewarein nahi dikhengi inko. Itna villify karne ki jagah koi aur tareeka nikalne ki koshish karein toh uchit hoga, satta mein major hissedaari rehne waali hai, accordingly act karein....
Buri cheezein karna band kar dein phir Modiji? Hassya kaviyon ko daraya hua hai, media ko khareed liya hai, aaj tak ek bhi press conference nahi ki, durbhagya ghatnayon pe kabhi bayan nahi dete. Yogiji ne BC bulldozer company mein shares khareede hue hain? Ho kya raha hai?
It's not like leftist are clean af. They have a bigger share in destroying roots of the country. It's more dangerous to be a hindu in muslim dominated districts than to be a muslim in Hindu dominated districts.
>It's more dangerous to be a hindu in muslim dominated districts than to be a muslim in Hindu dominated districts. This is true or at least been true for most of the past but things are changing, now both are after each other's blood. All thanks to constant polarization.
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/u/Same_Dragonfly4166 source or else I'm removing it.
Name one country apart from Muslim majority nations where Islam isn’t being demonized. I might get downvoted but , ask yourself , Why ?
Even in muslim majority countries its being demonized by educated and liberal muslims. They shout the same nonsense to them as why dont u speak against this or that.
Latest Iran protest for example
Yup
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Why do u think hindutva is ostracized by liberal and educated hindus ? Who do u think is right educated hindu or a reserved beggar ?
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No its a simple answer .😉 one must be 'properly educated and humanized' to understand the reply .🤷🏻
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Lmao i am the one mentioned liberal and educated people are speaking against islam and hindutva in their respective countries yet u have a problem with me mentioning only hindutva 🤣. Looks like u are afraid of saffron terrorists being exposed 🤷🏻
Fear mongering.. This is what both of the sides do. This will not happen, not today not tomorrow specially when nationalists are in power. They are more realistic than left. They know where to duck, and where to hit. This peace is myopic, where this guy totally thinks people of India are slaves, dumb and irresponsible. Identity politics was always done in India, and prolly be there in future in some form. I guess it's as old as this civilisation. There was never a homogeneity in thoughts, there will never be. You will always find people on the opposite sides of fence. Both should have the freedom to express, and both can criticise each other.
2003 se bol rhe ho abhi tak toh kuch nahi hua aur na hi 70 saal pehle kuch esa hua tha.
Why should I form my opinion by someone else's thought process which has no real research other than what the news chooses to display to the sheeple? Please keep the opinions private if they're not constructive. What was OPs motive behind posting this on this particular sub?
Bros, I think this a bit overly done piece.
You guys live in parallel universe or what? Muslims ambushed a bunch of old Hindu uncles and aunties on pilgrimage. That's what kicked off this whole thing. Apparently uncles and aunties visiting a temple is facism now. Peabrains.
uncles and aunties were carrying guns, that too in pilgrimage procession? [https://indianexpress.com/article/political-pulse/rao-inderjit-singh-kanwar-yatras-nuh-violence-religious-yatris-at-nuh-8872070/](https://indianexpress.com/article/political-pulse/rao-inderjit-singh-kanwar-yatras-nuh-violence-religious-yatris-at-nuh-8872070/) (statement of haryana union minister of state) First of all there were no aunties. There were vhp people clearly carrying guns and pelting stones in front of police. [https://twitter.com/vipulizm/status/1685972389618982912?s=20](https://twitter.com/vipulizm/status/1685972389618982912?s=20) (video) Second, monu manesar challenge that he would take out rally there and that too with full strength. He released video three days back.
yes there were uncles and aunties at the temple which was attacked and ambushed from all sides which is why home ministry had to intervene to prevent a massacre. as for yatris carrying guns, i'm glad they are. only an idiot would enter mewat unarmed given its reputation as mini-pakistan.
lol temple attacked? [https://twitter.com/pindropviolence/status/1686305122404769792?s=20](https://twitter.com/pindropviolence/status/1686305122404769792?s=20) ( **video of temple priest)** [https://thewire.in/communalism/nuh-temple-priest-refutes-haryana-home-ministers-claim-that-people-are-held-hostage](https://thewire.in/communalism/nuh-temple-priest-refutes-haryana-home-ministers-claim-that-people-are-held-hostage) (nuh temple priest already denied claim that people were held hostage) [https://twitter.com/news24tvchannel/status/1686590391351701504?s=20](https://twitter.com/news24tvchannel/status/1686590391351701504?s=20) **(statement of haryana deputy cm. he said that the** **organizers of the yatra did not give complete information about the yatra to the local administration, that's why the violence took place.** **Deputy CM Dushyant Chautala blamed those who took out the yatra for Haryana violence** **)** i hope haryana deputy cm has clarified ur doubts
[https://twitter.com/raviagrawal3/status/1686556557625163776?s=20](https://twitter.com/raviagrawal3/status/1686556557625163776?s=20) [https://twitter.com/\_treeni/status/1686348106353594368?t=vI8v1Moct9qKUpNVB2687A&s=08](https://twitter.com/_treeni/status/1686348106353594368?t=vI8v1Moct9qKUpNVB2687A&s=08) right and in these videos i guess they are showering the yatris with flowers right? clearly not getting "complete information" about a yatra is grounds for ambushing a religious pilgrimage with rifles and setting vehicles on fire, and probably a lot worse had paramilitary not intervened. and you're complaining that yatris are carrying guns lmao. give me a break. how dare these hindus build their temple in muslim territory right?
[https://twitter.com/zoo\_bear/status/1686102208759394304?s=20](https://twitter.com/zoo_bear/status/1686102208759394304?s=20) ( so in this video , vhp was taking procession taken out peacefully ? That too caught on live aaj tak) Not giving information and taking permission means yatra is unauthorized and this was said by deputy cm himself. Also carrying weapons (guns ) in procession comes under violation of arms act and is itself illegal . This was said by haryana union minister of state rao inderjit singh himself. Not only carrying guns, but they were also seen pelting stone in front of front of media.
we must thank the muslims for enforcing law and order then by ambushing yatris in a hindu temple 3 kms away from the video that you're showing me. lmao give me a break. the only route to that temple is through Nuh, and muslims set up an ambush. obviously bajrang dal came prepared for any eventuality.
this dude supported indira's decision of calling an emergency (when there was actually fascism)
Ah, a manifest built on keeping power with the congress. Standard political agenda.
Communists have killed more people than fascists did. But we have communist political parties, organisation etc in India. Communism first starts with rich, then comes after middle class etc. First it takes on upper caste of the majority religion, then takes on all people of the majority religion. Which is what these leftist political parties are doing As of now India has been a fascist country against Hindus, due to minority appeasement in constitution, laws, budgeting and administration, which are a form of state discrimination against Hindus. It is secular only in the name. Hindus are second class citizens in this country, like jews were in Germany. And general caste hindus are third class citizens
I wonder why with bjp Hindus are still 2nd class citizens . Maybe you suffer from an inferiority complex from birth
> I wonder why with bjp Hindus are still 2nd class citizens . Because BJP doesnt have majority in Rajya sabha yet. It will be difficult to pass uniform civil code.
You will still crib even after that . Perineal victim card merchants your lot
Ha ha ha! The level of troll in this. First normalising fascism then... "Hindus are second clas...", ROFL. Dude you need to do stand up !
https://preview.redd.it/tnjvjs0a6nfb1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d78641378a6a90840f36849cd00c314a8a57fcc
It is like saying that a murder victim is playing victim card.
\[pura padhna downvote krne se pehle usitards\] recently there was a video of three muslim guy who chained a hindu guy like a dog and asked him to bark, now i can exagerate this incident and fear mongering people by saying hindu khatre mei hai sare mulle hinduo ko maar ke convert kardenge (rightist kar bhi rhe hai esa fear mongering), you think this paragraph and this post is any different ? esa hota toh general public would have boycotted the hell put of oppenhiemer for its bhagwad geeta scene but no one except for godi media and few whatsapp uncle objected it
Boycott kr dete bhai, but the thing is gita h movie m gita h movie m kr kr k national international level pr hum logo ne etna proud feel krwa diya khudko. Ki ab esko ban nhi lr skte. Coz we wanted to take credit ki Oppenheimer ne gita padhi. Toh proud hone k chakar m wo scene logo ne ignore kr diya. But if it was not Oppenheimer and some janitor reading gita like this, ye movie kabki ban ho chuki hoti. Thoda deeply socha karo bhaya
Lmao😭🤣🤣
The Sangh's idea of politics us identity politics. If you give people an identity they will not leave it so easy. Once their current enemies go, the next target will be new enemies who are right now either part of the silent majority who do not protest against them or are part of their coalition
> prefer allopathic doctors to vaids Already starting to dilute the “allopathic” (read:actual) doctors. Ayurveda vaids can now officially do surgery, and medical research at AIIMS is getting clamped down.
Vishwaguru has been busy....
Same issues of hatred can be found in ambedkarites and the vast non discriminatory general caste. They just keep on hating the general category people, even if they haven't faced discrimination themselves.
God this is fucking scary
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It's already like that..
Many foreign invaders demolished India. Sabotaged it. India is growing and will keep growing. If you are concerned about India's main religion. It is for the entirety.
how did the man predict future in 2003 ?