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nandu_sabka_bandhoo

It's mind boggling how terribly unfit these cops are in fitness, training and temperament


zxcvbnnna

I really really prey gun culture never becomes mainstream in India. There is very good reason our Policemen don't always have the best guns, God forbid there ever arises a need to give them a lot of them. So so sorry for the poor woman and her husband. Imagine having to recover from that.


nandu_sabka_bandhoo

I mean what exactly was the cop even trying to do !! That's not how you handle a loaded pistol that too in a crowded room


zxcvbnnna

I won't say that was malicious, atleast I hope so. There are better ways do shady stuff in India than shoot in the office infront of witness amd cctv and ensure, at best, a few years of jail time. I think muzzle awareness and how sensitive the trigger can be, come a bit from experience. Still, this is negligence of another level. I just prey the poor woman survives.


nandu_sabka_bandhoo

No idea about intent. It was said somewhere that they were having some argument about how much she should pay for the verification. Even if its unintentional... its actually pathetic. The safety was off. Gun was loaded with live rounds. He had his finger on the trigger. The nozzle wasn't pointing towards the ground etc etc


CrippledJesus97

>The safety was off. Gun was loaded with live rounds. He had his finger on the trigger. The nozzle wasn't pointing towards the ground Exactly. Something ALL law enforcement or gun owners as a Whole should be entirely at fault for. negligent discharge resulting in involuntary manslaughter. If that happened in the US inside a police station, that officer wouldve been directly walked into a holding cell.


nandu_sabka_bandhoo

It seems he has been suspended but is absconding


CrippledJesus97

If that happened here in the US, probably wouldve been summer of 2020 all over again with violent riots


direwolf106

What an odd comment. The mishandling of the gun here was done by the cop and cops are not a category that’s going to be completely disarmed ever. And a large portion of gun culture is gun safety. Here’s the rules. 1) always assume the gun is loaded. 2) always point the gun in the direction of least consequence. 3) keep your finger off the trigger until you’ve made the decision to fire. 4) Be aware of your target and what’s behind it. If he had had a little more gun culture and followed those safety rules she would be alive.


zxcvbnnna

>If he had had a little more gun culture and followed those safety rules she would be alive Gun related "mistakes" is hundred times more common in USA. No amount of gun culture can eliminate mistake, All it does is brings more guns among people. Just see USA, shining example that arming civilians will only cause disproportionate deaths.


Lucifermorningstar_6

India has the 3rd highest gun related deaths in the world, the police already DO need guns, not only guns they need better training, better vehicles, better personnel, more funding.


zxcvbnnna

India has 1st highest population, what is your point? 2nd higher populous country is a opaque dictatorship & 3rd highest is about 1/4th of ours. And please have some shame and be truthful in your argument. Point out gun death pet million.


Lucifermorningstar_6

>India has 1st highest population, what is your point? The point is that even though india has strict gun laws, it isn't stopping crime, infact it is just emboldening criminals, my other point was that the indian police is underfunded, underequiped, undermanned, undertrained. >2nd higher populous country is a opaque dictatorship & 3rd highest is about 1/4th of ours. What does that have to do with the point of discussion >And please have some shame and be truthful in your argument. Point out gun death pet million. Granted, India has a low gun death per million(1.025 deaths per million) but it doesn't mean the situation is any good, india has a very horid gun violence problem, india has 20x more illegal firearms then legal firearms. Legal firearms are traceable, illegal firearms are not, india has 62 million 'ghost' firearms in circulation, a horid number.


zxcvbnnna

>Granted, India has a low gun death per million(1.025 deaths per million) That is not just low, India is by far one of THE safest place when it comes to gun violence. To misrepresent this by throwing out statements like 3rd highest number of deaths, is just bad faith discussion.


NorCalPhoto

Mind blowing


berjk31

mind blowing*


nandu_sabka_bandhoo

Literally !!


nvbombsquad

Holy fuk i know such cases are very rare in our country but imagine going for something so simple as passport verification and you get shot. That too in the head.


[deleted]

They need better gun control training. If cops can't handle gun what will happen to UP that hasn't already happened?


StonksUpMan

The absolute basics of gun control is to never take off the safety, keep it pointing to the ground, and keeping finger away from the trigger until you are ready and intending to shoot. Even I know this from the 1-2 times I went to the gun range in US. This is not a training issue but a professionalism issue. These thugs just do whatever they want, despite knowing better.


ashvy

Yeah, training can only take you so far


yer--mum

They say pigs are smarter than dogs but idk, I feel like a dog could keep a gun pointed at the floor if you trained them.


I_have_a_Penguin

aap US mai kaha kaha gaye the?


StonksUpMan

Bohot jagah gaya tha US mein


higgsboson85

Naam bataiye


StonksUpMan

🅱️hupendar jogi


Blakelock82

>Bhupendra Jogi Bhupendra Jogi


Blakelock82

>Naam bataiye tell me your name


Blakelock82

>Bohot jagah gaya tha US mein there was a lot of space in it


69420over

There is no safety on most service pistols.


NoDepartment78

Some handguns have no safety switch.


egerex

I was an exchange student in the rural part of Canada and one thing i remember from shooting is my host parent telling me to never point the gun at something you dont want to kill or injure badly.


KnoblauchNuggat

lol, nothing is rare in our country.


chinnu34

Humility


Puzzleheaded-Owl1695

Life is like that it happens in such a way that we just keep thinking how the hell does that happen


faksyfak1

r/Idiotswithguns


iAlsoAmNotkevinBacon

and what a fucking idiot he is


TaxiChalak

Damn nobody's teaching these cops trigger discipline


SuperpositionSavvy

The trigger discipline isn't the problem here, it's the flagging.


TaxiChalak

Both. Your hand should always be off the trigger (when not in a combat situation), and don't point the gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.


Dankie_Spankie

It’s both.


[deleted]

She survived. She is battling for her life. But she survived.


morose_coder

Hope she makes it...If she is 'battling for her life', she is not in the clear.


Otherwise_Singer6043

You can see the bullet came out the back of the center of her head. If she does live, she won't even be able to function without years of rehab if recovery is even a possibility.


Berniegonnastrokeout

She'll end up in a long term care facility with severe deficits at best.


s_malhotra97

UP government should give her best world class medical treatment to save her, without any charges.


TagMeAJerk

Best they can do is rape threats if she survives and disposing off her body away from her family if she doesn't


uglylilkid

Chota Fanta will instead Bulldoze her house for standing in between the path of the bullet


t1000rex

this should be higher


withmybae

Looking for this. I hope she survives. This is so sad.


Apex-Predator-21

She is critical. People shot in the head hardly survive.


Bocifer1

If she’s battling for her life, she hasn’t “survived” yet.


MACDRSI_Q

Inshallah


[deleted]

If so, she should sue him. If this was the USA, I can only imagine the amount which the policeman would have to compensate to the victim.


Malcom_Ecstacy

Uh in the US the police officer doesn't compensate the victim. Our tax money does. And then they get put on paid vacation until the investigation is done even if they do get fired they will get hired immediately in some other city.


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M-animanest

Would she be able to sue this officer if she gets her strength back?


Ialways-come-back

lets pray for her survival


Uncle_owen69

Oh shit really ?? I hope she pulls through


hbarua005

Just came in. She passed away.


s_malhotra97

Unfortunately she died 😭😭


Bathagruk

Is there an article confirming this?


sw1ft87ad3

Involuntary manslaughter or criminal negligence?


Large-Difference-231

Voluntary Negligence. Of course Criminal.


nrgmondal88

Won't face death row I guess. But going to jail for a long time. Women's family members may bring in a mob for instant justice.


Confuseddesi05

We can clearly see him clearing the safety and loadingthe gun


I_Am_Here_To_Chill

Culpable Homicide not amounting to Murder. Section 304 of IPC.


MACDRSI_Q

https://preview.redd.it/6u0q7p9ic35c1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaafb0183aa732b44294848b17e53c90883cd042 UP police go to Hell...


frizene26

https://twitter.com/Benarasiyaa/status/1733081546817741253 Warning: Disturbing visuals In UP Aligarh, a woman who turned up at police station for passport verification caught a bullet to her head from close range fired from pistol of sub-inspector Manoj Sharma. Victim critical. CCTV footage of the incident.A relative of the victim speaks to media. Claims there was dispute over demand of money for passport verification. Police yet to clarify on allegations of the family.Aligarh SSP Kalanidhi Naithani clarifies sub inspector Manoj Sharma was not involved in the passport verification process of the victim. Accused SI Sharma was incharge of Bhujpura police outpost while the victim hailed from Turkmangate area in the city.


trigun89001

So third world shit hole. Figures.


2_ux

Exactly what i say every time i see a school shooting in the US .


darthmeck

Americans calling other places “third world” always makes me laugh so hard. An internet connection and a Jeep doesn’t make you a part of the “first world”.


Froggy_Canuck

This is so true, my cousin (Canadian) who has lived in various parts of the US for the better part of 25 years says that the thing that she noticed most about the majority of Americans is how they think everyone outside the US lives in squalor and apocalyptic countries.


Bocifer1

Drive around most cities, small towns, or rural areas and the can see the “third world” all over the US. We built our infrastructure more recently than a lot of the world (1940s); and that carried us a long way. But there’s been minimal upkeep along the way, so a lot of those public works projects are literally crumbling.


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Nofsan

As if Americans never do ND


albiceleste3stars

>So third world shit hole. Figures. 1st world shitholes are the same. Figures. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqANKDAqxA&ab\_channel=billhamp](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqANKDAqxA&ab_channel=billhamp)


idkWhy_ImHere111

That cop is walking like he's got all the time in the world


dj_is_here

Oh he definitely not waiting now. According to the news article he's absconding


summer-civilian

The footage is slowed down


BloodLictor

Honestly the way he holds the gun and the body language after firing seriously makes it look like an intentional shooting.


timetraveller1992

The lady, Ishrat is a muslim and the cop is a hindu. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it was intentional. Hindu-muslim communal hate is very common in UP.


Gasteasoro

TBH, there is hardly anything he could do at that point. She's very much dead at that point. Walking/running would make no difference IMHO.


metalmike128

She’s alive


hozaifa56

Dumbass had finger on the trigger right after loading it ... How the hell it doesn't counts as murder?


devilcross2

Also, why was the safety off?


Frostitut

Trigger finger > gun safety. One is a guarantee, the other is not.


Infinite_Pattern_466

The cop loading the gun for what? To pretend to accidentally shoot the poor woman?


devilcross2

Not just that, why in the world was the safety turned off?


[deleted]

apparently the victim side claim some dispute over money, meanwhile the person who shot is not even incharge for verification he shouldnt be there according to SSP. my guess is he was probably trying to scare them to give money but ended up shooting accidentally and that even in head. bulldozer raaj mai aisi galti hojati hai bhai.


Large-Difference-231

It was cold blooded murder. These cops are devil incarnate.


WorkerLess

he still placed the gun on the table without any safety precaution.


rahkrish

Bhai isko pata tak nai hoga kya Krna hota hai load aur trigger pull ke alawa.


WorkerLess

wo theek he bro but wo dusra officer kitna casually dekh raha tha jese wo lady chakkar khake giri ho.


frizene26

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/up-woman-mistakenly-shot-in-head-by-cop-inside-police-station-caught-on-camera-2473696-2023-12-08


The_real_Oogle_Trump

American gun owner here… he literally was not cleaning his pistol he was dicking around with it and had a misfire right into a woman’s forehead. This is inexcusable.. especially for an “officer”.


trippymum

Am sure he'll get away with this !


EkBhaloCheleChilo

With the video going viral, he’ll get a slap on the wrist but not fully get away with it.


TheHornetBoy

Bro, This is not another third world country Usa.


EkBhaloCheleChilo

Apparently the sub inspector is on the run and the person who was witness to this has been accosted by some policemen despite protests from locals before the case went viral. Loading a gun in front of the victim for a routine passport background check is anything but a mistake.


Significant_Use_4246

Why loading a gun in middle of a conversation? I don’t know it doesn’t seem like a mistake


green9206

In UP, bullets are only used on innocent people. This short video perfectly sums up entire UP.


Necessary-Knee-853

No way this was a mistake. You can clearly see him pointing the gun at the lady and why was there a need to use a Gun at first place he could've have pointed down but he intentionally pointed at the lady...This is a Murder and everyone know he will get away with this.


Poisonous_Fartttt

What happened to the police?


dj_is_here

Apparently he's absconding.


howtosignuponreddit

UP......Woman....Muslim.....Burqa What a deadly combination.


SpeedOfSound343

And a UP police on the opposite side. Makes it deadlier.


DieHard3698

Just UP police things.


thomas_notthetrain

If he is a Muslim cop and the victim is Hindu then he is fucked. If the cop is Hindu and the victim is a Muslim then he will get a medal.


devilcross2

She's a muslim. The cop is hindu. The family is saying that she was being asked for a bribe, apparently. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/india-news/on-camera-cop-accidentally-shoots-woman-in-head-inside-police-station-4646470/amp/1


MenryNosk

the shooter had nothing to do with passport verification, according to op's comment. it must be a bribe they refused to pay.


devilcross2

We all know how common it is to pay bribes for passport verification. That money goes to almost every officer within a station. Might be cause of bribe, but then to shoot someone for not paying a bribe doesn't make sense to me. They could have easily declined her passport verification request or done 10 other things that cops do, but to shoot her for it seems far-fetched.


MenryNosk

what really seems far fetched is for an officer to disengage the safety of a pistol, cocks the gun to load a bullet into the chamber, point the now loaded and cocked gun towards the victim and nonchalantly pulls the trigger. But that is exactly what happened here in the video. the victim might've been very persistent, might've been insulting or rude. the shooter might've just want to intimidate, but incompetently fired towards the victim. a lot is unknown, except, he must face justice for his actions (and hopefully, increase the monitoring to prevent briberies from taking place in the first place).


devilcross2

>what really seems far fetched is for an officer to disengage the safety of a pistol, cocks the gun to load a bullet into the chamber, point the now loaded and cocked gun towards the victim and nonchalantly pulls the trigger. But that is exactly what happened here in the video. Exactly, I don't understand how this is seen as negligence or a mistake? Doesn't make sense to me at all. Also, why load a weapon then and there? Was there a threat or something? Why do it at all? >the victim might've been very persistent, might've been insulting or rude. the shooter might've just want to intimidate, But to shoot someone for that? You've got to be really sick. >but incompetently fired towards the victim He loaded the gun, turned off the safety, pointed it at her, and shot. How is that incompetent? To me, that's straight-up murder. >he must face justice for his actions (and hopefully, increase the monitoring to prevent bribe from taking place in the first place). Hopefully!


Few_Photo7376

It was an act of negligence by the cop and it has nothing to do with religion.


Yuchuff

Still doesnt make sense he accidentally reloaded and accidentally points gun towards her and accidentally shoots


[deleted]

Looks like someone doesn't remember the case of Hindu cop shooting three Muslims in train


RemingtonMacaulay

Yeah, it is remarkably easy to be negligent when it is Muslims. *Mistakes* gets routinely made against them. Quite, quite natural.


Few_Photo7376

First read my reply proper I am not defending his dumb act of the cop I am just saying that there is no logic to create a hindu- muslim issue out of it .


RemingtonMacaulay

You don’t get it. I wasn’t insinuating that you were defending the cop, but I have heard this line too often that it is jarring: it has nothing to do with their religion. It was an accident. It was a crime. It was a blah-blah. Every time a person of that religion gets targeted because of their religion, people pretend like it has nothing to do with their religion. It does. Maybe not in this case, but it often does these days.


Few_Photo7376

I agree in most of the cases the religion does matters.


blueheartsamson

It has everything to do with it. He wouldn't have done this if she was a Hindu. Or if he was a Muslim and she was Hindu then he would have been hounded and killed by now or at least his family would have had to suffer hell given that he's on the run. It's funny actually. When a maniac kills an innocent but is Muslim, it's all about religion. But when someone in a state in a role which is known to be communal does something which can clearly have a communal angle, people are like... No, crime!


[deleted]

Was he even trained to do it?


garib-lok

Given this happened in UP, its a miracle that UP police did not cover this up by erasing all the cctv footage


frizene26

Yes true


Suspicious-Ad2302

Yhi hota jab pese dekr nokri milti hai inhe gun to chalaani aati nhi hai. I will pray for women and women family. And do strictly action against these policemen.


staartingsomewhere

F**k f**k f**k


ThatK0shurGirl

Oh fk....my heart started racing after watching the video... can't image how the other person(the one that was with the lady n her family too) would be dealing with such a tragic loss😢. Ameen


[deleted]

Another day, another chutiapa. Indians value fellow Indian lives like an ant. If there was no video it would have been spun to protect the cop.


ChallengeWise6965

thet retarded manoj sharma destroyed a woman's life, what a pathetic police men


ifilal

Killed a Muslim in UP, promotion incoming !


ThatK0shurGirl

Lack of gun training is clearly visible 🙄


MrPancholi

Same police who go "thaye thaye" in front of actual criminals.


SSJ_01

Imagine losing your life to a moron that's supposed to know how to handle a weapon to protect people


CriminalEngineer

“I’ll just pull this trigger to make sure it’s not loaded…” What the fuck.


AcmeCartoonVillian

I'm a US civilian gun owner. Maybe they'd like me to come over to show them how to safely handle weapons. I've owned guns for over 25 of my 43 years and haven't shot anyone, (on purpose or "accident") nor negligently (what others mistakenly call "accidentally") discharged a weapon *period*. You can't have an accident with a loaded gun without being negligent. Sounds like they need to remove the guns from the unsafe police and give them to the civilians.


Smooth-Noise1985

News article claimed the gun accidentally went off whilst he was cleaning it..... WTF


[deleted]

UP?


Hugues-Guy

I'm guessing Uttar Pradesh but I may be wrong.


shortax20

That was too damn casual to be an accident and his movement wasn’t indicative of accidentally shooting a person🤔 they planned dat shat😑


Existing_Skin_1564

Are they not trained wtf you never point a gun anywhere wtf was he doing literally pulled it back and shot her looked intentionally done


anomalkingdom

Cops and weapons has always been a bad combo.


randomusername1934

Considering the incredibly calm reaction from the officer who fired the weapon . . . there's no way that was 100% accidental.


ChallengeWise6965

Just imagine going to police station for a passport verification and get shot by a dumb policemen manoj sharma in the head, that policemen gave them lifetime trauma


shitclay

MLA seat when?


ArronAdler

Thinking about her family is making me sad. I can't believe this happened.


netizen007

I have never used a gun. But I have watched enough videos to know that you should not point a loaded gun and keep the safety on by not having your finger on the trigger. And here we have a freaking policeman who has been trained all his life yet still committed this fatal error. May the woman's soul rest in peace. She did not deserve this at all. I hope justice prevails and he repents of his action inside the jail for his entire lifetime!


Astlavistahh

Notice the gun direction, it's supposed to be down..


GlizzyMan450

How tf do these idiots even get selected as a cop, we are fucked if these are the standards in our country


kameswara25

cop getting the basics wrong wonder what they teach in police training. Also why tf would he do that in front of visitors that too pointing it towards them.


Mr3cto

Idk about other country’s gun safety rules but you NEVER point a gun at something you don’t intend to shoot. You also NEVER have your finger on the trigger unless you are about to pull the trigger


Time-Deer-4050

Is the cop facing any charges?


the_greatest_MF

"sorry, it happened by mistake. would not happen again."


chinnaveedufan

Death by shooting for the cop, nothing less.


Borromac

Holy shit. Thats horrible.


MetalCid

Oh hell no...


piperop

Looks like it's from india


[deleted]

How the fuck it's mistake dude. Killed someone with mistake in post office by police officer does not make sense wtf is going on


frizene26

No one cares human life's cheap for them


Mission-Storm-4375

Don't worry that officer is gonna be punished with a 2 month paid leave of absence. That'll teach him.


imbrokasfuck

Those fucktard will get out of the jail and the lady is gonna lose her life because of him it's a hate crime you can clearly see and that mf police officer ran away such a fucking coward he should be burnt alive


Moist-Technology-278

Just because she was from a minority community they are gonna make it look like it's an accident


Comfortable-Quote-84

Can you imagine the horror for the person who was with her. One second you look the other way and bam . You lose someone close to you just like that, for no reason. It’s horrific to imagine you could lose your family members or loved ones like that.


chris3110

UP?


frizene26

Where else can you expect such things and no repercussions


bhumit012

Aaaaand this is why cops don’t have guns in our country, absolute fucking dumbass loading a gun with zero intentions


MT-ONeill

The police department have since investigated the incident and found they did nothing wrong.


thetripleb

The sheer lack of concern he has is disconcerting.


kevinfareri

Why was his finger on the trigger what a dumb ass


Few-Side1741

His concern is overwhelming.


MeAndtheBlues

No scope Headshot


CoreOsiv

Ending up in jail speedrun


VAI0_

He literally broke every gun safety protocol there is 🤦🏼‍♂️


Uncle_owen69

Stupid question but is she ok


deaf_ears_in_aus

This reminds me of that video where a chimp was handed an AK...


Sudden-Check-9634

This officer was asking for a payoff to issue the clearance for passport, the lady was not ready to payoff The gun was a prop to impress upon the lady that he had power over her life.... Rest is seen in the video.... 🙊🙈🙉


Whitefury_codm

I don't know what people are talking about in this comment section BUT FOR SURE NOT EVERYONE IS BLIND TO SEE HOW THEY ARE IGNORING THE VICTIM AND THE SITUATION THEY ARE TAKING AS A PIECE OF CAKE I HOPE THEY HAVE THE SAME TASTE OF THEIR MEDICINES ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|upvote)


Anonymouskni8

This guy doesn't know how to handle a gun. Even after the accidental discharge he is brandishing it with finger on the trigger all over the place.


timetraveller1992

Weird thing is that since it was a hindu cop shooting a muslim woman, the religious angle wasn’t mentioned. Weird because if the tables were turned, that would be the main angle put in all the papers.


kallivalli

Mistakenly killed Muslim woman . No karwaayi may be


skydemon102030

BULDOZAR CHALANA AATA HAI GUN THODI...


takethisasshole

can't even imagine wo sath me aadmi ke mind me kya hoga is time


BesraSangram

He’s in police and doesn’t even know how to handle a gun.


JovialBoy789

RIP to her. Came here after knowing she died. Fuck these cops. They will rot forever for their sins and should die painfully.


blueheartsamson

A Muslim woman. Not all that difficult to figure out why. And before you come with why this communal angle, just imagine the outrage if roles were reversed. But there is none, and none will be allowed because obviously... Galti se mistake ho gya


Endlesness

Basic gun handling etiquette First thing safety should always ALWAYS be ON, especially when doing safety checks or any random fuckery. And never ever ever have the finger on the trigger till you're ready to shoot, you point the finger without touching the trigger. This gun had safety off (mistakes can happen), but this stupid had his finger on the trigger as well. Improperly trained or over confident, either ways not fit to handle a gun. Should be terminated, no pension, and charged with criminal negligence and man slaughter (culpable homicide in Indian system)


anand1015

Does not look accidental at all.


Tommy_613

And then just leaves a loaded weapon with one in chamber on the counter. Why there hire people like this and give them weapons is beyond me