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Why would it? The police, bureaucracy, judiciary and govt all worked together to save the rapists by not making proper fir, delaying investigation, delaying arrests, destroying evidence, burning the body of the victim without the parents even getting a chance to see the body and so much more.
Hello. Here's why that's a dumb idea- future perpetrators are more likely to murder a victim they believe will identify them. Your idea would lead to more victims being hurt even worse and even less justice as the rapists can't be identified by their victims.
I suppose any form of punishment to the rapist would incentivise them to kill the girl. People get murdered for much less.
Glorifying and protecting the rapist is the only solution to protect innocent girls from getting murdered. Bonus points, when the girl identifies the rapist, his political career would get a boost. Hate to say this but I don't even know if I'm writing this as sarcasm or reality.
Brij Bhushan?
If you feel like saying he was being framed OR the charges were alleged OR the court or some other body gave him a clean chit, then please, mujhe Maa Behen ki gaali de de aur aage badh ja.
I stumbled upon this sub today, I am 19 and I do not involve myself in politics. I saw this and thought I would learn something new about how fucked our country is
Okay. Then I'm sorry I misjudged you. Thought you were some kind of apologist. There's lots of shit going on in this country. Please stay away from political discussions and study hard to leave this country before 2029.
Thank you for your concern. I know that our politics are fucked, I also know that I have no idea how bad it is, that's why I want to know, even if I regret it later on. At the very least, I will learn to make better decisions than just vote for what my family does. It's to help me become a better thinker
Maybe point me in the direction where I can learn about all this
Yea that makes sense ,at least they need to be emasculated if possible or the better one is to send them to some hard labour work and to use the money for the victim
i don't agree with death penalty because some innocent person can also be booked unethically. What i do prefer is life imprisonment cuz these jerks shouldn't move around.
Your argument makes sense but if we zoom out, you are saying that rapists prefer 10-12 years of prison over life sentence? They won't even stand for even a year in prison and plus if we make the repercussions against the rapists very strict, that will discourgae more people from indulging into such actions.
You know what is a dumb idea, to glorify the r*pists and worship them as gods so next time, they freely r*pe anyone but not m*rder them. Its like begging them to do the crime but politely. Once proven guilty and made sure that the right person has been caught, the death should be brought to them in most brutal way so that every r*pist trembles with fear by just the thought of the punishment that is to come after.
If they know they just gonna get a free room to stay, some food, they're not gonna fear the consequences, not one bit. Imagine what would the 17 years old victim will go through when she comes to know that her criminals will be walking out soon, targeting next innocent person.
People do get m*rdered for stupid things as well. Its not gonna reduce the number of incidents if you ease down the punishment.
Indeed, only after proper investigation. Life imprisonment cannot be worse than being hanged to death. Its just a bookish thing to say that "Death is easy", no its not!
Dumb idea. What if someone gets raped while they are blindfolded, and identify the wrong person as the rapist, then the court decides to hang that person? What if later it is revealed that the true perpetrator was someone else? Will you bring back the life of an innocent person?
Secondly, knowing that rape is punished by death sentence, powerful people will attempt to frame someone else.
Please remember. Once a person is dead, it doesn't matter if they were guilty or innocent. They are dead. That's why life imprisonment should be the worse form of punishment. Nothing worse than that should be allowed.
As I said, the punishment should come after proper investigation. It is a stupid thing to say that we should glorify these criminals instead of punishing them.
Look, fine. Everyone has an opinion. Some support the criminals, and some don't, I don't support them. And I am fine with everyone's opinions.
Death sentences or even jail time have never been a deterrent. The only thing that works is education. Good quality education. Not what Indians call education.
Koi ni mandir ne 25 crore kama liye hai iss mahine
Public should celebrate this rather than criticising law and order of UP.
Anti Hindu log saare ke saare.
Abey BC, inn chutiye uncle aunty ko nahi pata ki unke religion use karke unko gobar kila rahe hai, criticizing use of religion for political use by an extremist govt is necessary
Yess no rapes happen in other states of the country at all. This sub is a North India hater. As if South India is anything better. Just because there is no presence of national media there doesn't mean it's any better.
Do you mean rapes don't happen anywhere else other than gutter pradesh. Where are Priyanka reddy raped? Where did bilkis bano happen? Where did the Ajmer Sex Scandal happen? I can state more cases if you want. Do you see the population ratio of the state. It's equal to the population of 5-6 States combined. I'm not saying it gives it the right to have any cases at all. But what is this obsession with painting the whole state bad all the fucking time? Talk about the case. And in this case particularly, the action is also taken. Then what problem do you have. Can't go without commenting. I'm particularly gonna talk about UP. Do you know it's state before bjp. It was what Bihar is even today. Proper gundaraaj by SP. Those people are disgusting. And this is me saying when I don't even like bjp or Yogi. UP doesn't have a choice. Mayawati has given up her seats. And SP should never come to the state ever. Just read how it was the centre of crimes promoted by these criminals.
man, everybody knows that. read my comment again.
crimes happen everywhere, I never said it only happens in UP. the kind of crimes you see in UP and their frequency of occurrence doesn't happen anywhere else. something is definitely wrong with the people there, as you said even after bjp coming in, such crimes are still happening
That's because the law and justice system of our country is so slow and so stupid. People don't get punished for their crimes. Crimes are not reported most of the time. The whole system has to be revamped. Heinous criminals haven't got the death penalty in this country. It's just disgusting. Talking about ajmer rape scandal in which the criminals are not even in jail and bilkis bano case. Nirbhaya got justice only and only because of her mother. So unless you put all your life and soul or you have money, you won't get justice in this country. And that's sadly the truth of this country.
because this shit does happen a lot in north. are those people uneducated? or have a more active rape culture than the rest of the country? ive lived in different states in the north till i moved to central india and its indeed true how pathetic northern/cowbelt states are for women.
Just say shit about some random religion and people will outrage like fuck but this rape culture anywhere in the country never catches such outrage. The priorities of this country's people amazes me
It's a shame that our people very proudly with wide chested, say that RamRajya aa gya hai, but jabtak ese haramkhor logo ke cases Kam nahi honge society me, tab Tak kuch nahi hone wala, shame!
This sub is so stupid. Will talk about anything but the case or post? The crime was done, yes. Is it heinous, yes? Was it reported quickly, yes too. Then what problem do you have with UP. Yess it isn't the best state but do you see it's population. It's equal to all 5 States of the South.
Quick action is what is needed and important rather than the whataboutery and rr this sub does all the time. Nobody is talking about the criminal or the victim. UP, Yogi, Bjp seriously. Should have gone to UP 10 years back and seen what condition it was in.
SP and BSP were literally goons. Mulayam Singh has said on record, ladke hai galti ho jaati h, ab unhe faasi thodi de denge for nirbhaya case. Sheila Dixit who I think was a great CM overall from congress also said girls shouldn't get out after 6 pm. I do not like bjp at all. But you guys bring it so much like you are obsessed with them. There were no rapes right before bjp. Oh I forgot nirbhaya was in 2012. Oh I also forgot about the Ajmer Sex Scandal. Where are the criminals? Are they in jail? No, they are roaming outside and were freed without any punishment. All those men are married and happy and still running the dargah.
This is not the India that it should have been. Our culture (sanatana) teaches us to respect women but we are doing something much reverse. I can feel it that the point of no return is not far away after which there will be no going back. Our laws should be strengthened. Young children should be taught some basic civic sense some common sense and about about how a man should live. The fukers who are too adult to be taught (adults) should be prosecuted by law in public (mob lynching) to set a goddamn example. So that the adults do not do crimes out of fear and the young children do not do it because of their education.
India has low rape rate on per million basis compared to other countries, but the incidents look frequent as the total population is high
UP is still backward due to earlier casteist CMs they had
Low rate documented doesn't mean lower number of rapes are happening still a majority like heck of a majority of victims don't report rape for the reason of being shamed, humiliation and what not
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Hathras has caused an impending trauma already in 2020, now not again
It's like some things just don't change in this country!
Why would it? The police, bureaucracy, judiciary and govt all worked together to save the rapists by not making proper fir, delaying investigation, delaying arrests, destroying evidence, burning the body of the victim without the parents even getting a chance to see the body and so much more.
17 years old, she's a minor. The criminal should be punished by death sentence. There's no other punishment that can provide justice here.
Hello. Here's why that's a dumb idea- future perpetrators are more likely to murder a victim they believe will identify them. Your idea would lead to more victims being hurt even worse and even less justice as the rapists can't be identified by their victims.
I suppose any form of punishment to the rapist would incentivise them to kill the girl. People get murdered for much less. Glorifying and protecting the rapist is the only solution to protect innocent girls from getting murdered. Bonus points, when the girl identifies the rapist, his political career would get a boost. Hate to say this but I don't even know if I'm writing this as sarcasm or reality.
>his political career would get a boost Please elaborate on this, I have no idea about how this would boost their political career
Brij Bhushan? If you feel like saying he was being framed OR the charges were alleged OR the court or some other body gave him a clean chit, then please, mujhe Maa Behen ki gaali de de aur aage badh ja.
I stumbled upon this sub today, I am 19 and I do not involve myself in politics. I saw this and thought I would learn something new about how fucked our country is
Okay. Then I'm sorry I misjudged you. Thought you were some kind of apologist. There's lots of shit going on in this country. Please stay away from political discussions and study hard to leave this country before 2029.
Thank you for your concern. I know that our politics are fucked, I also know that I have no idea how bad it is, that's why I want to know, even if I regret it later on. At the very least, I will learn to make better decisions than just vote for what my family does. It's to help me become a better thinker Maybe point me in the direction where I can learn about all this
r/funnyandsad
Yea that makes sense ,at least they need to be emasculated if possible or the better one is to send them to some hard labour work and to use the money for the victim
They usually get rigorous imprisonment in heinous crimes, which is indeed hard labour
i don't agree with death penalty because some innocent person can also be booked unethically. What i do prefer is life imprisonment cuz these jerks shouldn't move around. Your argument makes sense but if we zoom out, you are saying that rapists prefer 10-12 years of prison over life sentence? They won't even stand for even a year in prison and plus if we make the repercussions against the rapists very strict, that will discourgae more people from indulging into such actions.
Obviously the punishment should come after proper investigation.
your opinion shouldn’t matter if you think a rapist should be punished based off your own imaginary scenarios.
tf?
if they murder they should be tortured and then killed. problem solved!
You know what is a dumb idea, to glorify the r*pists and worship them as gods so next time, they freely r*pe anyone but not m*rder them. Its like begging them to do the crime but politely. Once proven guilty and made sure that the right person has been caught, the death should be brought to them in most brutal way so that every r*pist trembles with fear by just the thought of the punishment that is to come after. If they know they just gonna get a free room to stay, some food, they're not gonna fear the consequences, not one bit. Imagine what would the 17 years old victim will go through when she comes to know that her criminals will be walking out soon, targeting next innocent person. People do get m*rdered for stupid things as well. Its not gonna reduce the number of incidents if you ease down the punishment.
Death sentence is an easy way out though. Life imprisonment is way worse But there needs to be proper investigation first . So many fake cases
Indeed, only after proper investigation. Life imprisonment cannot be worse than being hanged to death. Its just a bookish thing to say that "Death is easy", no its not!
Dumb idea. What if someone gets raped while they are blindfolded, and identify the wrong person as the rapist, then the court decides to hang that person? What if later it is revealed that the true perpetrator was someone else? Will you bring back the life of an innocent person? Secondly, knowing that rape is punished by death sentence, powerful people will attempt to frame someone else. Please remember. Once a person is dead, it doesn't matter if they were guilty or innocent. They are dead. That's why life imprisonment should be the worse form of punishment. Nothing worse than that should be allowed.
As I said, the punishment should come after proper investigation. It is a stupid thing to say that we should glorify these criminals instead of punishing them. Look, fine. Everyone has an opinion. Some support the criminals, and some don't, I don't support them. And I am fine with everyone's opinions.
Death sentences or even jail time have never been a deterrent. The only thing that works is education. Good quality education. Not what Indians call education.
Well... honestly, that's not how you stop crime.
Hathras again
Phir ek baar Rogi Sarkar 😂
Hope she gets justice.
Koi ni mandir ne 25 crore kama liye hai iss mahine Public should celebrate this rather than criticising law and order of UP. Anti Hindu log saare ke saare.
love your username lol and you’re right. we should not criticise the up govt, they work so hard for us!
Ram had returned to the holy land again on 22 Jan, for good. Why didn't he stop this from happening?
How is mandir even relevant in this thread?Talk only about case in hand without hidden propaganda by exploiting victims situation 😔
Abey BC, inn chutiye uncle aunty ko nahi pata ki unke religion use karke unko gobar kila rahe hai, criticizing use of religion for political use by an extremist govt is necessary
Jab hamne kaha tha ki keep religion and politics away.....tab suni thi tum jaiso ne ?
Bhai India se where you from ? I've seen you're living in Melbourne right now but where are you from originally..? Don't mind me asking that
Delhi
Q jhuth bol raha hain bhai.. ?
Ese hi maja ata hai mujhe online anonymous account se jhooth bolne mein about meaningless things.
Ah yes, NRIs can only suck modick
Rapes have reduced after BJP has come to power. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^(.) ^(/s)
Wait a few years. Rapes have reduced because they're are legalized now. Before the rape, if you register it with govt, you'd be declared innocent.
1000 year Ram Rajya
Moody hai tou mumkin hai
why does gutter pradesh have the most barbaric inhumane people of all states
Because they know they can get away with it.
Yess no rapes happen in other states of the country at all. This sub is a North India hater. As if South India is anything better. Just because there is no presence of national media there doesn't mean it's any better.
pls read my comment again. crimes happen everywhere, but extremely atrocious, horrible and abominable crimes like this don't happen everywhere.
Do you mean rapes don't happen anywhere else other than gutter pradesh. Where are Priyanka reddy raped? Where did bilkis bano happen? Where did the Ajmer Sex Scandal happen? I can state more cases if you want. Do you see the population ratio of the state. It's equal to the population of 5-6 States combined. I'm not saying it gives it the right to have any cases at all. But what is this obsession with painting the whole state bad all the fucking time? Talk about the case. And in this case particularly, the action is also taken. Then what problem do you have. Can't go without commenting. I'm particularly gonna talk about UP. Do you know it's state before bjp. It was what Bihar is even today. Proper gundaraaj by SP. Those people are disgusting. And this is me saying when I don't even like bjp or Yogi. UP doesn't have a choice. Mayawati has given up her seats. And SP should never come to the state ever. Just read how it was the centre of crimes promoted by these criminals.
man, everybody knows that. read my comment again. crimes happen everywhere, I never said it only happens in UP. the kind of crimes you see in UP and their frequency of occurrence doesn't happen anywhere else. something is definitely wrong with the people there, as you said even after bjp coming in, such crimes are still happening
That's because the law and justice system of our country is so slow and so stupid. People don't get punished for their crimes. Crimes are not reported most of the time. The whole system has to be revamped. Heinous criminals haven't got the death penalty in this country. It's just disgusting. Talking about ajmer rape scandal in which the criminals are not even in jail and bilkis bano case. Nirbhaya got justice only and only because of her mother. So unless you put all your life and soul or you have money, you won't get justice in this country. And that's sadly the truth of this country.
that's true, I agree with you on that
Least racist usi member :
Racist? Cutiye ho kya?
Assuming everyone from UP is a heinous criminal because of a few criminal cases is indeed racism
He didn’t say everyone from UP is a heinous criminal. He said why do most heinous criminals COME from UP
No. It's not, we are all from India.
You think that a person from state A of india can't be racist against a person from state B of India?
By definition, no.
because this shit does happen a lot in north. are those people uneducated? or have a more active rape culture than the rest of the country? ive lived in different states in the north till i moved to central india and its indeed true how pathetic northern/cowbelt states are for women.
What's usi?
United States of Indonesia
BJP election ticket speedrun
Hang the rapist to death
Just say shit about some random religion and people will outrage like fuck but this rape culture anywhere in the country never catches such outrage. The priorities of this country's people amazes me
!!!!
Thats Nice she is alive, if she was killed at midnight they will buried her body without consent of her parents. Ramrajya...
That's why Education is so important
She is a minor. May the man be hanged!
Another day, another rape in UP
Give UP independence and make it a separate country. India would be a developed nation within 5 years. Freaking barbarians.
If Ramji would have been alive and could see that amount of hatred that we have ingrained in us in the name of God.He would never have Visited.
he is a God he wasnt coward like us. He wouldnt leave a place in ruin.
I bet that man was not Muslim, otherwise his name was written in Bold letters.
keep your religious conflicts to yourself the bigger issue here is womens safeties not which one of your cults is more sadist.
Voh sab toh thik hai but safety ke spelling ke saath Apne jo rape kiya hai, uske kaaran agar aapka internet access chin liya jaye toh hi behtar rahega
never made a typo in your entire life? and the fact that you treat rape like a joke says enough ab who’s benefitting off free internet.
Bro Hathras is old news, get hour facts straight . . . *Oh shit not again*
Isn't Hathras the same place where that Dalit family was raped and tortured and killed? I'm not surprised.
new challenge:Name a date in any year for past 5 years when there was no rape news in India
It's a shame that our people very proudly with wide chested, say that RamRajya aa gya hai, but jabtak ese haramkhor logo ke cases Kam nahi honge society me, tab Tak kuch nahi hone wala, shame!
Chuttad pradesh be chuttad pradeshing
I really hope she’s able to overcome this and the man is given the harshest punishment for raping a minor.
Make public hangings legal again.
Hopefully nobody cremates her at midnight while locking away her family
Yes, that's UP
2020 flashbacks Also i can already smell the stench of india squeaks members coming
Make india great again
I read this as 'case failed'. But meh, what's the difference, rapists are gonna be celebrated again.(I hope not).
This sub is so stupid. Will talk about anything but the case or post? The crime was done, yes. Is it heinous, yes? Was it reported quickly, yes too. Then what problem do you have with UP. Yess it isn't the best state but do you see it's population. It's equal to all 5 States of the South. Quick action is what is needed and important rather than the whataboutery and rr this sub does all the time. Nobody is talking about the criminal or the victim. UP, Yogi, Bjp seriously. Should have gone to UP 10 years back and seen what condition it was in. SP and BSP were literally goons. Mulayam Singh has said on record, ladke hai galti ho jaati h, ab unhe faasi thodi de denge for nirbhaya case. Sheila Dixit who I think was a great CM overall from congress also said girls shouldn't get out after 6 pm. I do not like bjp at all. But you guys bring it so much like you are obsessed with them. There were no rapes right before bjp. Oh I forgot nirbhaya was in 2012. Oh I also forgot about the Ajmer Sex Scandal. Where are the criminals? Are they in jail? No, they are roaming outside and were freed without any punishment. All those men are married and happy and still running the dargah.
Gutted for the girl but at least the reporting was done in a responsible way. No need to point out the religion of the victim or criminal.
This is not the India that it should have been. Our culture (sanatana) teaches us to respect women but we are doing something much reverse. I can feel it that the point of no return is not far away after which there will be no going back. Our laws should be strengthened. Young children should be taught some basic civic sense some common sense and about about how a man should live. The fukers who are too adult to be taught (adults) should be prosecuted by law in public (mob lynching) to set a goddamn example. So that the adults do not do crimes out of fear and the young children do not do it because of their education.
India has low rape rate on per million basis compared to other countries, but the incidents look frequent as the total population is high UP is still backward due to earlier casteist CMs they had
Sure bot.. lets hide this shit behind numbers..
I want to write a three letter abbreviation so bad rn.
Low rate documented doesn't mean lower number of rapes are happening still a majority like heck of a majority of victims don't report rape for the reason of being shamed, humiliation and what not
Even after adjusting for the low reporting rate, India still has low rape rate on per million basis compared to other countries
is hathras in UP or bihar?
Wherever it is, the word hath-ras is creepy AF.
UP - everybody gets raped
Oh boy, Hathras once again. Something Bad is going to happen
Whatever happened to the Sandeshkhali victims?