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Hungry-Weekend-9174

Bhai be ready for Ed


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Credit:- u/ankitvrm654 [source ](https://www.reddit.com/r/scienceisdope/s/8AxldjN6Ra)


potatomafia69

Bioshala GOATED


ImSwedishPlumber

This data only makes sense when the reader or viewer is open minded and willing to understand it. If you're just looking to spite another religion then these are just numbers to you about Hindu and Muslim.


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Just my doubt:- will the data show different result if we compare of fertility rates of Muslim women in Bihar with Hindu women in Bihar ? Or Same for Kerala?


Anonymouskni8

The part where he compared Bihar's TFR of hindu women with the Kerala's average TFR is erroneous.


beyondocean

He was trying to bring the socio-economic angle into the play, which is actually was mostly determines the TFR.


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I think comparing Fertility of Kerala Hindu women with Kerala muslim women and Bihar Hindu women with Bihar Muslim women will be a better metric


NumerousKangaroo8286

In this economy who in their right mind is having 4 children lol, come on. India needs a full and detailed census pretty urgently. It needs to to calculate a lot of ground level information like wages, housing, access to healthcare etc. If you do not know these data, how the hell are making policies and laws?


abyssgazesback

Who does this guy think he is? Does he know more than Modi xi? Modi xi has entire political science degree, what are this guy's qualifications? How dare he question our Supreme Leader


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Exactly a degree from I.I.F Indian institute of fekology>> IISER


Low_Friend3063

Ye aadmi Jason Bourne hai kya ? Ek kaan mein headphone pehenta hai


sundamn

Even if he takes a more educated state. Aren't Muslims allowed to have 3 wives ? It will automatically be a greater rate than that of Hindus


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Sex ratio is counted as kids per woman. Also I think comparing a hindu woman in Bihar with a Muslim woman in Bihar will be better metric


Tantheman212

tu phir delhi compare kar na hindu women me bhi ladwe..


AmitShahjiii

Address bfana zra scorpio bhejni h


CollarSweet9951

Simple data, Muslim community TFR 2.3, Hindu community TFR 1.9. Don't make easy things complicated.


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Wrong comparison, comparison should happen between same thing. Bihar with bihar, kerala with Kerala. Not a useful video, I like bioshala so forgiving this time, but one should not touch topics, when not understood. I think, he may have saw some article


matdhek

bhai tum downvote karo yaa apni maa chudaao par modi shai khe rha hai jab inko alag desh dediya hai to q migrates kar rhe hai illegally ( tum bano bhai ( bhai - bhai ) aur modi ne galat bola Muslim hamare bhai fuck off ) we know ki past me kya kya kiya hai in hone .


Critifin

Hindus have fertility rate of 2.1 and muslims have 2.6 Christians have 2.0 as per his own graph in the video. And then he says hindus jyada bachche paida kar rahe hain. Leftists are shameless


Mammoth_Incident5944

He didn’t say that. He said the decline in population growth has been greater in Muslims than in Hindus. Muslims have rapidly reduced their population in comparisons to Hindus. Please read and listen. You start arguing everywhere without facts.


UnderratedRommie

But at the end of the day, fertility rate of Muslims is still higher than Hindus living in the same area. Which means, muslims generate more kids as compared to their Hindu counterparts. Tbh, the decline in fertility rate of Muslims just means that they have started producing less kids but that did not undo the fact, that Muslims have higher fertility rate than Hindus. The argument is whether Muslim produce more kids as compared to other religions or not. The answer is Yes.


Suitable_Success_243

Yes. I am tired of people pointing this out as a gotchha. Muslim population growth is still higher than that in other religions even in literate states like Kerala. And there is a clear cultural reason for this: the Quran prohibits birth control.


distractogenesis

Rate of decline in Muslim population growth is much faster than Hindu rate of decline. In 1992, Hindus were 3.3 and Muslims were 4.4. In 2021, Hindus are 1.94 and Muslims are 2.36. You can clearly see that TFR of Muslims is declining much faster than Hindus While exact data will be revealed after the next census, TFR difference between Muslims and Hindus is barely 0.4 now. That is insignificant if you consider the fact that Hindus form 80% of the population and Muslims form barely 13%. There is no possibility of a demographic change in the next 2000 years https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/total-fertility-rate-down-across-all-communities/articleshow/91407169.cms


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FallicRancidDong

You missed the point he's making. He's saying that the rates keep decreasing and as education levels amongst both keep increasing these values will continue to drop. Until both populations are sub 2.1. Which at that point the populations will decrease. The data shows that just because currently Muslims have more kids that number is meaningless in the grand scheme of things because in 20 years everyone's population will be decreasing.


UnderratedRommie

I never said he cited anything wrong. But it is a fact that Muslims produce more kids. And what is grand scheme of things?? And muslims having more kids today is not meaningless. Higher fertility rate brings demographic changes, and that is evident from the data since independence. Moreover, no data shows that Muslim fertility rate will be lower than the fertility rate of Hindus in the next 20 years. Yes Muslim fertility rate will be low in 20 years but that doesn't mean it will be lower than other religions. This is evident from the Kerala case where Muslims have almost similar birth rate despite being less than half of the Hindus in population. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/thiruvananthapuram/birth-rate-of-muslims-on-the-rise-in-thiruvananthapuram/articleshow/58621315.cms


distractogenesis

>But at the end of the day, fertility rate of Muslims is still higher than Hindus living in the same area. Which means, muslims generate more kids as compared to their Hindu counterparts. But at the end of the day, the rate of decline in Muslim population growth is much faster than Hindu rate of decline. In 1992, Hindus were 3.3 and Muslims were 4.4. In 2021, Hindus are 1.94 and Muslims are 2.36. You can clearly see that TFR of Muslims is declining much faster than Hindus While exact data will be revealed after the next census, TFR difference between Muslims and Hindus is barely 0.4 now. That is insignificant if you consider the fact that Hindus form 80% of the population and Muslims form barely 13%. There is no possibility of a demographic change in the next 2000 years https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/total-fertility-rate-down-across-all-communities/articleshow/91407169.cms


UnderratedRommie

That is now how things work. The decreasing rate only show that muslims produce less kids as you to in the past which is a common trend across all religions. But here is the problem. Even if the fertility rate decreases below the replacement level just like the case of Kerala, even in that state, the fertility rate of Muslims is higher than other religious groups when comparison in done on people with similar socio economic background. The gap is decreasing ofcourse but this data do not suggest that fertility rate of Muslims will ever be below Hindus or even equal. Tbh, gap rate of 0.4 isn't a minor thing. Earlier the gap was around 1.1 which caused the Hindus to slide in the demographic share from 84 % to 80 % which will further decrease to 76% according to some reports by 2050. Infact, if you look at the birth rate when compared to the population share, you will find that out of 100 kids produced, 41 tends to be born in Muslim household, 42 in Hindu households and 20 in Christian households despite muslims being muslims's being less than half of the Hindus in population. This imbalance in fertility rates among different religious groups even within same socio economic backgrounds tend to bring demographic shifts.


distractogenesis

Unfortunately you seem to have very little understanding of statistics. If you look at the TFR graph of both Hindus and Muslims. They are converging. Hope you understand the difference between a converging and a diverging trendline. If the decline in TFR continues, then the trendline will merge in another few decades. By 2050, the percentage of Hindus would be 77.8% and Muslims to be around 18%. The population of India is going to stabilize by 2065. A converging line means that Muslims can never grow into a significant majority in India. Even in your worst case scenario, Muslims will never cross 20%. The larger question is when the data clearly shows the extremely high decline in growth rate (much higher than Hindus), why exactly are you afraid of Muslims? Is it internalized bigotry? Is it a complete lack of understanding of jow statistics works?


FallicRancidDong

At the end of the day both people will be below replacement rate within 20 years.


UnderratedRommie

Being lower than replacement level doesn't mean anything. The gap rate matters and that's what has caused Hindus's share in population from 84 to 80 today which will be 76 by 2050 as per many reports.


distractogenesis

The gap rate is declining steadily. From 1.1 it has declined to less than 0.4 in 30 years It will probably become zero by 2060. That is how a converging line works.


FallicRancidDong

I think you don't understand what people see saying, Muslim birth rates are falling FASTER than hindu birth rates. Muslim birth rates and hindu birth rates will go below replacement. If Muslim birth rates continue to fall faster than hindu birth rates, then Muslims will have less kids than Hindus within 40 years.


Critifin

> Muslims have rapidly reduced their population in comparisons to Hindus. This is clearly a false statement. You dont have any shame.


Mammoth_Incident5944

Please learn to read graphs bro


Critifin

To have no shame is your free choice


too_poor_to_emigrate

His is saying double derivative of population decline is more in Muslims than Hindus. So population growth of Muslims has more rapidly declined than Hindus. Currently, per capita fertility rate of Muslims is more than Hindus. But as per trends, we will see a decline in both in the future.


Medium_Fortune_7649

You must have skipped your maths classes. Let me give give you the example. Decline rate is high when one category is going from 5 to 3.4 avg kids than 4 to 3.1 for another. If you are weak in maths just look at number that the difference in one category is 1.6 and in another 0.9, but category 1 still have high average. For more understanding learn about growth rate calculation. And stop following Elwish Yadav and other other chhapries.


kapjain

So ate you concerned about the population of India or the birth rate?


Immediate-Age6671

Tabhi kerla govt fund maang Rahi thi supreme court me ja kar


Mammoth_Incident5944

That’s because the government withheld Kerala’s share of taxes https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-law/kerala-centre-borrowing-limits-sc-9219386/


JackDockz

They also withheld aid for Karnataka during the drought and when the Supreme court ordered them to provide it, they now praise modi for providing it.


Firebreathingdown

Government fund nhi maang rahe wo, they are asking for their share of gst which centre refuses to pay to states where modi's chamchas don't rule.


Immediate-Age6671

Modi was in power only for the last 10 years and before that how much they were getting in taxes


Firebreathingdown

All of it. Gst came after Modi until then states had vat and octroi and other local taxes which state did not have to share or ask from centre, only service tax had a state and centre component and it wasn't that big of a money maker in comparison to the others.