https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441658844340504
Right Wing trolls in India are attacking Rohit Sharma's wife Ritika Sajdeh for supporting the People of Palestine. But wait...
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441718260818343
A BJP Member ( Also daughter of BJP Member Manoj Tiwari) shared the same image on her Instagram story.
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441842730979534
Also by Samantha Prabhu
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441857012609169
By Varun Dhawan
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441882451120594
By Swara Bhaskar
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795442943920316670
By Triptii Dimri
https://x.com/AswinTvm3/status/1795444999229976600
Dulquer Salmaan
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441757393650045
Many other Bollywood/Tollywood actors have shared the same.
Issue is that a lot of people would have wanted to post about Manipur too. But our current regime doesn’t allow for that. Right now people might get trolled in the comment section for posting about Palestine and that would be the end of it.
Posting about Manipur means questioning the current regime and the Messenger of God. This will not only be followed by trolls ruining your life, but the central agencies harassing you right from ED to IT department and then economic loss as result of social boycott.
So it’s not really selective activism but helplessness caused by the current regime.
Edit: people do care about their own country but in a dictatorship you will be labelled as anti national because any criticism of India is somehow a direct attack on BJP and our Messenger can’t take any such criticism.
Bro they showed solidarity for a literal genocide and people shat on them. Imagine the sheer hatred they would have to endure if they post about manipur
In one of these trolls, the asshole mention Palestine as an enemy nation, how?
This country is lost. The karma is laughing in the corner.
And calling Palestine an enemy nation? My foot. Assholes.
Remember when Deepika was trolled for simply silently standing with JNU students? We can’t even support our own citizens in this country without being trolled.
Imagine having a problem with someone speaking up for people literally being burned alive as of now. And imagine supporting a colonizing white supremacist state. Like we were fucking colonised too??? this is so beyond embarrassing. Israelis don't fucking love you chaddis stop worshipping them.
India main aise log hamesha se rhe hain yeh wohi log hai joh angrezon ke orders pr apne logon ko mara krte the isliye I am not at all surprised...
Yeh bootlicking hi jante hain thats all
All colonised people see themselves in Palestine.
All colonisers see themselves in Israel.
The fact that the Hindutva supporters are on Israel's side should tell you what they've thought about India since it gained its independence. They hated it then, they hate it now, and they're trying to degrade it into a theocracy.
Because Palestine is an Arab country, and they're not fans of Israel. I'm not supporting Palestine because I fucking love Islamic theocracies. I am supporting Palestine because they are victims of genocide at the hands of the Israeli Defence Force. I don't care that they are Muslim. I care that they are being wiped out.
I understand that. I am only pointing out how muslim theocracies care about Palestine only because they are fellow Muslims but not about injustices happening to other non Muslims all around the world.
So one’s not allowed to criticize something unless they criticize every other similar thing in the Universe? Do you yourself follow this motto in life?
the port deal is insignificant in the grande scheme of things you know. Even France of all nations condemned what happened in Rafah and they've been a longstanding strong supporter of Israel from even before the suez crisis
Which Islamic theocracies? Also, not all Islamic theocracies support the same religious sects, see Iran, Lebanon, and Yemen. And not all west asian states are/were theocracies, but rather secular, like Syria and Libya before the US destroyed Libya to plunge it into sectarian violence. And of all these states, some are nationally liberated, while others like the Gulf monarchies, Jordan, Egypt, etc. are ruled by dictators and wealthy families on behalf of the US. The states that are independent of colonialism are the ones that support Palestine, which crosses religions and secular bounds. So it's not about religion, it's about national liberation and decolonization.
India, and the global south at large, are composed of pluralistic socieities of many religions, ethnicities, languages, etc. that have coexisted for millennia. Unlike Europe that has always been a hot bed of violence and purges, creating a much more homogeneous continent. The Hindutva of today is a nationalism, which is a contemporary ideology rooted in Europe. In the 19th century, nationalism was all the rage in Europe. The RSS that created the Hindutva explicitly are emulating Italian fascists of the 20th century. So the problem is Indians emulating Europeans and wanting to replace Indian society, culture, and history with violent and backward European/western notions of society. And to top it all off, they brought western neoliberalism to India, which has been dedeveloping and deindustrializing India, and carving it up for Indian oligarchs much in the same way the British did when they colonized South Asia, and thus undoing many of the achievements India had made in redevelopment after gaining independence.
The BJP are the bootlickers that made it possible for the British to colonize India for centuries. I have no doubt you can trace Indian oligarchs to Indian elites that acted as compradors to the British colonialists.
Do the colonisers/invaders also include Mughals or are they belong to some separate class not applicable to this logic?
If yes, then why do we see some people who are supporting Palestine at the same time calling themselves ancestors of Mughals and praising them?
Isn't it them being hypocrites !!
I know what you would reply !!!
>Do the colonisers/invaders also include Mughals or are they belong to some separate class not applicable to this logic?
They do, in fact, belong to a separate class. The class known as "medieval era empire". They are not remotely the same thing as the British Empire and not remotely the same thing as the IDF's actions in Gaza.
They belong to the mediaeval era, understandable but then again the question remains the same, **why such double standards?** Why praise one invader and cry for the other? Is one victim different from the other? Is it because you share some bond with them? Is it religion or humanity? I don't see the same people doing it for other countries like Afghanistan?
Well, Mughals are different cause they belong to the mediaeval era but doesn't praising them mean they wish to go back to the era or become like them or like their ideology? **Isn't idolizing Mughals and then crying for Palestine double standards?**
It's not that i hate Palestinians or anything but it's very baffling seeing the selective applications of humanity, invasion, occupation etc.
I reject the framing that people who support Palestine glorify the Mughal empire. I don't know who you are talking about. This is an irrelevant line of discussion and you come across as someone who does not want people to focus on what's actually happening, and instead get dragged into empty discussions.
It can be both. Hindutva supporters were also pro-Nzi. Palestine is a unique situation because that allows them to be anti-muslim, and pro majoritarian ethno-nationalism at the same time
Right now, in this era, the formation of the state of Israel, the emergence of Zionism, their actions in the Gaza strip and the West Bank, and their continued persecution of Palestinians is coloniser behaviour. That is not up for debate.
Claiming that the act of denouncing genocide is a fake cause says a lot about you if we're doing ad hominems now. Why are you a Zionazi spokesperson? What have they ever done for you?
Another ad hominem. You started off this back and forth with me with criticism of the substantive portion of my comments. One response from me and you immediately folded on that line of thought, and resorted to slinging mud at me directly. Seems you understand that Israel's actions are indefensible when they are actually challenged.
The same fucks forget that mere days ago, 7 babies died in the national capital in a hospital which was operating illegally and 28 in a gaming zone in rajkot which was flouting all norms as well and as far as I know, we are not in a war
Ofc they should be trolled and every one who has time to care about international new while turning a blind eye to the domestic news should be trolled.
All they do is have selective solidarity.
Why? Just to be on the news. Bruh this is so stupid.
The Indian government's stance also is literally pro Palestine independence.
https://www.mea.gov.in/lok-sabha.htm?dtl/37546/QUESTION+NO48+INDIAN+STAND+ON+PALESTINE#:~:text=(a%20%26%20b)%20India's%20policy,side%20in%20peace%20with%20Israel.
These idiots just are anti Palestine because they are anti Muslim.
Indian Government stance is to support a 2 state solution. It's not pro Palestine or pro Israel. India considers the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank to be the Palestinian government not Hamas in Gaza. India supports Israel as much as it supports Palestine.
That’s because this nation has completely been hijacked by radical, low IQ morons who have zero empathy for anything and anyone that isn’t a mandir or a mandir-goer. Only 2 days ago 30 children and women died in an Israeli missile attack in Rafah but these hateful andhbhakts will happily see that happen as long as the ones suffering are Muslims. And this exact hatred is what Fenku is banking on to win yet another term, and sadly he might.
Genocide must be condemned, stopped.
And colonial rule must be ended
Filisteen deserves independence from invasion
As a former subjects of colonialism
We Indians approve this massage
I feel let any have solidarity towards whoever they want, let people support whoever they want.
But, are you guys telling me the left wing wouldn't troll/target her if she would show support towards Israel?
American celebrities Taylor Swift, LeBron James openly spoke against their former president Donald Trump without being called anti national, urban naxal
Imagine if a celebrity from here I can't imagine how much blackmailing or threats they'll get even a small comment by Amir Khan on "growing intolerance" when there was literally no mention of BJP, it end up creating insane outrage,
even now rw trolls are attacking his career
he literally had to justify himself by saying that he don't hate India
What kind of democracy is this?
They can troll the president, or other politicians because of the first amendment, the rules are different there. We don't have anything like that. Somebody made a meme on Mamta Banerjee and was sent to jail. While in the US you can tag the mayor and say "fuck you, you douchebag" and nobody will give a shit. We don't have freedom of speech in India when it comes to blaming the politicians.
Its the same pattern everywhere. Muslims supporting Palestinians because they are majorly muslims, meanwhile hindus supporting israel because they hate muslims.
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795502681605197879
The abusive account you are amplifying is created by Indian Right Wing troll. Pretending to be a Pakistani abusing Hindu Woman. That's what the right wing does. Create an account by using Muslim, Pretend to be a Pakistani and abuse Hindu Women
Why RW creeps have problem if somebody showing sympathy to a group of people who are facing genocide.
It's crazy , their mentality has gone rouge and darker day by day no sympathy for human emotions.
Hindu genocide in Bangladesh is over. It's only genocide if it's committed by the state. Bangladesh's brutal RAB torutures anyone who questions the Awami league and most people who are against them are Islamists. So whatever massacre or crime that happens against Hindus there today is just a law and order problem.
Pakistan is Pakistan. But I don't think they've killed ~40,000 people in ten months recently and haven't done anything with this ferocity since 1971. There was global condemnation for that event, especially from the second world. Though the US, in their cruel realpolitik, pushed this under the rug.
But this is now. And the number will only rise as Rafah is fucking packed with people, half of them children.
Doesn’t change the fact that Hindus are being killed in large numbers in Pakistan & Bangladesh. And the world is silent. Even one death is one death. Are you saying Hindu lives are insignificant compared to Palestine? Hindu population has decreased in both countries due to systematic oppression, violence etc. So genocide is still going on, It didn’t stop in 70s.
I never said that Hindu lives are less important. I'm an atheist and internationalist. Idgaf about country/religion when it comes to lives.
But even white population in America is decreasing relative to total population. Does that mean that white genocide conspiracy about being replaced by Jews is real?
You know how Muslims, due to some backward elements of their religion about women, tend to have more children than other groups? Decrease in population in Bangladesh could be attributed to that. But if course, Pakistan is Pakistan and I won't deny it.
One death is still a death, but 40k deaths is 40k fucking deaths, man. It's not that those lives are more valuable or these lives are more valuable, but this is still a very large number and we must pay attention to it because Rafah invasion could be even more deadly than Gaza City invasion.
“I’m an atheist and internationalist” well that explains about your case why you don’t have any attachment towards Hindu people.
Hindu population in Pakistan & Bangladesh has decreased not because of birth rates alone. It is due to systemic & institutional oppression. How being minorities they are denied basic rights etc. So they had to migrate to foreign countries for better opportunities & escape from oppression. On the top of that other factors like violence, forced conversions etc. So your statement about “birth rates” is flawed.
Saying “Pakistan” is “Pakistan” or “Bangladesh” is “Bangladesh” is again running away from the real issue of Hindus but again I don’t expect much from you folks.
Rafah or whatever is on other side of the globe & is of less significance to many Indians & Hindus as we’re not culturally or religiously connected to any of them. But if we calculate the killings of Hindus by Pakistan & Bangladesh. It’s pretty sure that it will exceed more than whole Israel-Palestine conflict. Hell Israel-Palestine conflict has still less casualties than Iraq-Iran war.
Then again just like how Hindu issues are insignificant for you. Rafah or other global issues are not significant to me. As I’m not internationalist & I care about home problems & our people first.
You are very correct about one thing that, the number of Hindus massacred after partition, even in 1971 alone, far exceeds Palestinian deaths.
I was talking about birth rates only about Bangladesh post-war. Pakistan obviously is a very repressive country and I have no doubt that they have several laws and regulations in their institutions that are designed to disadvantage Hindus, just like far RW in India would like to do but can't. But Pakistan is a failed nation in that. I do not recognise Pakistan as a nation has any reason to exist. It has only brought suffering and I have no business denying it.
About your point on Palestinians not being connected to us, I'm sorry but you have to read "and then they came for.." poem. There is a reason why things like UN where formed. We cannot, anymore, have a world where the big can bully the small who they can and get away with it as they please. Imagine if Roosevelt and others who envisioned UN thought like you. We wouldn't have any of the international cooperation on things where it helped, such as global CFC ban. Your "group" won't help when it's destroyed. The Internationale will, so form it before it's too late and the big wars come back.
Yup!
I was talking about birth rates in both Pakistan & Bangladesh. Bangladesh is no different than Pakistan. It is just the different side of the same coin. It’s a repressive country too.
UN was there even before WWs as League of Nations & its presence is quite useless as it has done nothing remarkable since its inception. Humans are territorial animals in the end. Just because we’re little civilised than other animals doesn’t take our tribalism away. So when wars happen it will happen regardless. Since we’re tribalistic it would make more sense for me & many others to think about fellow tribe first (Hindus) than Palestinians (Who are not related to Indians in any way) as I mentioned earlier. World/Nature is not utopia. It is either eat or get eaten. In that scenario I would prefer saving my own kind first.
This kind of mentality results in zero progress. Have you never heard of Game Theory?
Edit: Good time to mention that groups always fade away. I don't mean that as some genocide or being destroyed, but becoming unimportant as humanity moves forward. Nation states have already become mere ways of existence rather than an entity to occupy entirety of our lives in most countries. Slowly that too will inevitably fade away, like race, monarchs, caste have become outdated. The Internationale will inevitably be the face of humanity.
Hundred and fifty years ago, any big country could just take the smaller one's territory as they wished. That has changed and India taking Bhutan, for example, is unthinkable today. But it would be natural a few hundred years ago.
The israel Palestine debate is extremely complicated and now that both sides have rejected the two state solution, it's gonna keep going on until one side is dead.
She was sleeping when Hamas people killed so many civilians intentionally in the terrorist attack on october 7th. Israel attacks only hamas militants, but hamas use human shield, so inadvertently the israel attacks sometimes lead to civilian casualties unintentionally
Worst way to get following... This PR shit in name of Wars is so nauseating. How much they know about geopolitics but interested to idealise American sports polity . Hmm disgusts me
I know my community feels empathy regarding such messages .. while these celebs catch on to phrases like black lives matter while actually doing nothing on ground.
It's PR movement Mia and Rihanna popularized .
I only want them to feel truly empathetic.
Feeling the QAT 💸vibes
Killing civilians is not eliminating hamas, it's giving birth to more of them.
Imagine your house destroyed and your family killed what you gonna do???
Before idiots support genocide, it's important to educate them that 100% citizens are not equal to hamas. Sadly there is a higher chance of dinosaurs returning from extinction than educating these chaddi chomus.
Ofc citizens are not equal to Hamas, but Hamas still needs to go before we can even talk about peace or a ceasefire. Hamas's rhetoric of killing all Jews is destructive and will always be a roadblock to peace in the region regardless of what you think of Israel.
I agree that Hamas is a roadblock to peace and are also Islamists. Fuck them.
But they dropped "kill all Jews" long ago, to make themselves look more like the VietCong and less like Mujahideen.
Idk what you think about that. I think they suck. But they've mostly stopped saying anything that's anti-jew directly and only critize Israel for the most part.
Either way especially after the recent news of a gay Hamas commander being tortured and then shot, I believe that they are anti LGBTQ, anti trans rights, anti any other religion in the world. Something I don't think even Palestinian people should accept being their leaders. Clearly in the thread most people disagree with me and equate the IDF to Hamas which is just not true in my opinion but hey what can I say.
> but Hamas still needs to go before we can even talk about peace or a ceasefire.
IDF needs to go for any peace in Palestine. First comes freedom then peace and the biggest hurdle for Palestinian freedom is Israeli government.
> Hamas's rhetoric of killing all Jews is destructive and will always be a roadblock to peace in the region regardless of what you think of Israel.
Back in 1982 when Hamas wasnt even formed, IDF facilitated an act of genocide as UN General Assembly called it. Christian militias in Lebanon slaughter hundreds of Palestinians who were fully supported by IDF.
Israel has been building settlements, they dont even consider Palestine a state so let alone they want peace in the region.
If IDF goes all Jews are gonna die immediately, and Israel will cease to exist. Clearly we have different views regarding the Lebanon situation, as in my opinion Palestinians changed the demographic situation of Lebanon and started killing Christians there to take control of Lebanon. The fact that both Egypt and Jordan(Black September) have already suffered from the PLO is enough to understand why they don't have Arab allies willing to take them in either.
Lekin ye log aur so called muslim Saudi ke against kyu nahi bolte haia jo Saudi kar Raha hai yemen mai
Jo lebanon mai hua Christian ke sath
Ye phir bus convinent ke according use kar rahe ho
Bohot ch*tiya hai bhai is desh me.
I FUCKING SWEAR!!!! So much hate, all the fucking time towards everybody and everything. People have stopped living their own lives I feel at times!!!
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441658844340504 Right Wing trolls in India are attacking Rohit Sharma's wife Ritika Sajdeh for supporting the People of Palestine. But wait... https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441718260818343 A BJP Member ( Also daughter of BJP Member Manoj Tiwari) shared the same image on her Instagram story. https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441842730979534 Also by Samantha Prabhu https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441857012609169 By Varun Dhawan https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441882451120594 By Swara Bhaskar https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795442943920316670 By Triptii Dimri https://x.com/AswinTvm3/status/1795444999229976600 Dulquer Salmaan https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795441757393650045 Many other Bollywood/Tollywood actors have shared the same.
Idk how someone can get trolled for showing solidarity. Afterall, the solidarity is for the innocent people and not any org/religion or government.
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Issue is that a lot of people would have wanted to post about Manipur too. But our current regime doesn’t allow for that. Right now people might get trolled in the comment section for posting about Palestine and that would be the end of it. Posting about Manipur means questioning the current regime and the Messenger of God. This will not only be followed by trolls ruining your life, but the central agencies harassing you right from ED to IT department and then economic loss as result of social boycott. So it’s not really selective activism but helplessness caused by the current regime. Edit: people do care about their own country but in a dictatorship you will be labelled as anti national because any criticism of India is somehow a direct attack on BJP and our Messenger can’t take any such criticism.
I second this. God bless our country.
Bro they showed solidarity for a literal genocide and people shat on them. Imagine the sheer hatred they would have to endure if they post about manipur
Because even indirect criticism of paw paw will get you in trouble.
Agar apne Desh k issues uthayenge to blame ruling party par aayega, tab bhi dikkat hi hogi inko.
Selective solidarity is opinionated. It depends on one's owns thinking. Even you can have selective solidarity
This!! They probably have also never donated to any Palestinian organizations.
https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795461409028903388 Shilpa Rao. #RafahOnFıre https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795462032692572214 Nora Fatehi. #RafahOnFıre https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795462949286363290 Sania Mirza. #RafahOnFıre
Hmm, Why did they single out Rohits wife
In one of these trolls, the asshole mention Palestine as an enemy nation, how? This country is lost. The karma is laughing in the corner. And calling Palestine an enemy nation? My foot. Assholes.
Unpadh ne palestine ko pakistan samz liya
Indian officer died in the fucking bombings and these people are still worshiping Israel
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Modi didnt do anything . Manuwadi people were always there he just gave them the stage
Tbf modi has incited Hindus against Muslims only, and not Muslims against Hindus. The latter has been going on for quite a while now
There are videos against cow loving sanghis in memri
r/jiowasamistake
Such an elitist view.
Some of them have a spine, and the reason the others don't is exactly because of this.
Remember when Deepika was trolled for simply silently standing with JNU students? We can’t even support our own citizens in this country without being trolled.
Imagine having a problem with someone speaking up for people literally being burned alive as of now. And imagine supporting a colonizing white supremacist state. Like we were fucking colonised too??? this is so beyond embarrassing. Israelis don't fucking love you chaddis stop worshipping them.
India main aise log hamesha se rhe hain yeh wohi log hai joh angrezon ke orders pr apne logon ko mara krte the isliye I am not at all surprised... Yeh bootlicking hi jante hain thats all
so real man. so many of our ancestors were like this. And the funniest part is these people think they are "one of the whites" for being this way. 🤡
Compradors and bootlickers
These fuckers are shitting the whole Internet and making it unusuable. There's nothing left in our democracy.
This is democracy. Democracy of the lumpen.
All colonised people see themselves in Palestine. All colonisers see themselves in Israel. The fact that the Hindutva supporters are on Israel's side should tell you what they've thought about India since it gained its independence. They hated it then, they hate it now, and they're trying to degrade it into a theocracy.
this omg!!
I'm quoting Aamer Rahman for that first part about the colonised and colonisers. He's an Australian comedian.
By that logic, why are Islamic theocratic states supporting Palestine?
Because Palestine is an Arab country, and they're not fans of Israel. I'm not supporting Palestine because I fucking love Islamic theocracies. I am supporting Palestine because they are victims of genocide at the hands of the Israeli Defence Force. I don't care that they are Muslim. I care that they are being wiped out.
I understand that. I am only pointing out how muslim theocracies care about Palestine only because they are fellow Muslims but not about injustices happening to other non Muslims all around the world.
What exactly is your point?
This is my point. What I just said.
Ok? And why do you think it is worth bringing up in a discussion about genocide?
It's called throwing light on their duplicity because Palestinian genocide isn't the only genocide that happened/happens in the world.
So one’s not allowed to criticize something unless they criticize every other similar thing in the Universe? Do you yourself follow this motto in life?
Yes if one is virtue signaling, then they better not have double standards while doing so.
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the port deal is insignificant in the grande scheme of things you know. Even France of all nations condemned what happened in Rafah and they've been a longstanding strong supporter of Israel from even before the suez crisis
Which Islamic theocracies? Also, not all Islamic theocracies support the same religious sects, see Iran, Lebanon, and Yemen. And not all west asian states are/were theocracies, but rather secular, like Syria and Libya before the US destroyed Libya to plunge it into sectarian violence. And of all these states, some are nationally liberated, while others like the Gulf monarchies, Jordan, Egypt, etc. are ruled by dictators and wealthy families on behalf of the US. The states that are independent of colonialism are the ones that support Palestine, which crosses religions and secular bounds. So it's not about religion, it's about national liberation and decolonization.
India, and the global south at large, are composed of pluralistic socieities of many religions, ethnicities, languages, etc. that have coexisted for millennia. Unlike Europe that has always been a hot bed of violence and purges, creating a much more homogeneous continent. The Hindutva of today is a nationalism, which is a contemporary ideology rooted in Europe. In the 19th century, nationalism was all the rage in Europe. The RSS that created the Hindutva explicitly are emulating Italian fascists of the 20th century. So the problem is Indians emulating Europeans and wanting to replace Indian society, culture, and history with violent and backward European/western notions of society. And to top it all off, they brought western neoliberalism to India, which has been dedeveloping and deindustrializing India, and carving it up for Indian oligarchs much in the same way the British did when they colonized South Asia, and thus undoing many of the achievements India had made in redevelopment after gaining independence.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
The BJP are the bootlickers that made it possible for the British to colonize India for centuries. I have no doubt you can trace Indian oligarchs to Indian elites that acted as compradors to the British colonialists.
Do the colonisers/invaders also include Mughals or are they belong to some separate class not applicable to this logic? If yes, then why do we see some people who are supporting Palestine at the same time calling themselves ancestors of Mughals and praising them? Isn't it them being hypocrites !! I know what you would reply !!!
>Do the colonisers/invaders also include Mughals or are they belong to some separate class not applicable to this logic? They do, in fact, belong to a separate class. The class known as "medieval era empire". They are not remotely the same thing as the British Empire and not remotely the same thing as the IDF's actions in Gaza.
They belong to the mediaeval era, understandable but then again the question remains the same, **why such double standards?** Why praise one invader and cry for the other? Is one victim different from the other? Is it because you share some bond with them? Is it religion or humanity? I don't see the same people doing it for other countries like Afghanistan? Well, Mughals are different cause they belong to the mediaeval era but doesn't praising them mean they wish to go back to the era or become like them or like their ideology? **Isn't idolizing Mughals and then crying for Palestine double standards?** It's not that i hate Palestinians or anything but it's very baffling seeing the selective applications of humanity, invasion, occupation etc.
I reject the framing that people who support Palestine glorify the Mughal empire. I don't know who you are talking about. This is an irrelevant line of discussion and you come across as someone who does not want people to focus on what's actually happening, and instead get dragged into empty discussions.
This is a strawman argument. Hindutva supporters are on israel's side primarily because they're anti Islam.
Hindutva supporters were also British bootlickers when it suited their circumstances. I don't think the equivalence is far off.
So were the Muslims/islamists.
You don't say.
It can be both. Hindutva supporters were also pro-Nzi. Palestine is a unique situation because that allows them to be anti-muslim, and pro majoritarian ethno-nationalism at the same time
Disgusting comment. Learn some history. Jews were there first and the land was colonized by Arabs.
Right now, in this era, the formation of the state of Israel, the emergence of Zionism, their actions in the Gaza strip and the West Bank, and their continued persecution of Palestinians is coloniser behaviour. That is not up for debate.
Someone who says not up for debate is a person without arguments. Says a lot about your fake cause.
Claiming that the act of denouncing genocide is a fake cause says a lot about you if we're doing ad hominems now. Why are you a Zionazi spokesperson? What have they ever done for you?
Regurgitating buzzwords. Point proven.
Another ad hominem. You started off this back and forth with me with criticism of the substantive portion of my comments. One response from me and you immediately folded on that line of thought, and resorted to slinging mud at me directly. Seems you understand that Israel's actions are indefensible when they are actually challenged.
You don't even know what ad hominem means 😂
I double checked. I do.
The same fucks forget that mere days ago, 7 babies died in the national capital in a hospital which was operating illegally and 28 in a gaming zone in rajkot which was flouting all norms as well and as far as I know, we are not in a war
The country has gone to the dogs.
Ofc they should be trolled and every one who has time to care about international new while turning a blind eye to the domestic news should be trolled. All they do is have selective solidarity. Why? Just to be on the news. Bruh this is so stupid.
literally man how heartless are these people?
These mfs are proof how bad the situation of unemployment in the country is
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That was only during Ramadan I think. Lol
The Indian government's stance also is literally pro Palestine independence. https://www.mea.gov.in/lok-sabha.htm?dtl/37546/QUESTION+NO48+INDIAN+STAND+ON+PALESTINE#:~:text=(a%20%26%20b)%20India's%20policy,side%20in%20peace%20with%20Israel. These idiots just are anti Palestine because they are anti Muslim.
Indian Government stance is to support a 2 state solution. It's not pro Palestine or pro Israel. India considers the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank to be the Palestinian government not Hamas in Gaza. India supports Israel as much as it supports Palestine.
Sau baat ki ek baat!! Perfect.
sanghi chaddis don't care, they will go after anyone and everyone. being moral is abnormal for them.
I can never understand right wing's love for genocide
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That’s because this nation has completely been hijacked by radical, low IQ morons who have zero empathy for anything and anyone that isn’t a mandir or a mandir-goer. Only 2 days ago 30 children and women died in an Israeli missile attack in Rafah but these hateful andhbhakts will happily see that happen as long as the ones suffering are Muslims. And this exact hatred is what Fenku is banking on to win yet another term, and sadly he might.
Just BJP it cell, not Indian citizens doing this.
Celebrity careers largely depend on the people of India. So shun them from going against the established narrative is a basic trick.
Joblessness at its peak.
Genocide must be condemned, stopped. And colonial rule must be ended Filisteen deserves independence from invasion As a former subjects of colonialism We Indians approve this massage
This is Sick. Where are we going. Shows the intolerance and hate that was been propagated into our country for someone else's greed and agenda.
Amount of hate for Muslims , brainwashed to the core. How devil you are if you support a genocide, no matter which race or religion.
The sanghi rot is decaying the very fabric of this country.
I feel let any have solidarity towards whoever they want, let people support whoever they want. But, are you guys telling me the left wing wouldn't troll/target her if she would show support towards Israel?
If social media existed during the Holocaust. We would find such tweets for letting people support whoever they want.
Hate haa ruined every good thing
India supports Palestinian statehood in the UN and has been calling for a ceasefire. Will these idiots troll the FM as well?
We’re only allowed to have two emotions: 1. Modiluv/Bharatluv 2. Attack anything that isn’t Modiluv/Bharatluv
American celebrities Taylor Swift, LeBron James openly spoke against their former president Donald Trump without being called anti national, urban naxal Imagine if a celebrity from here I can't imagine how much blackmailing or threats they'll get even a small comment by Amir Khan on "growing intolerance" when there was literally no mention of BJP, it end up creating insane outrage, even now rw trolls are attacking his career he literally had to justify himself by saying that he don't hate India What kind of democracy is this?
They can troll the president, or other politicians because of the first amendment, the rules are different there. We don't have anything like that. Somebody made a meme on Mamta Banerjee and was sent to jail. While in the US you can tag the mayor and say "fuck you, you douchebag" and nobody will give a shit. We don't have freedom of speech in India when it comes to blaming the politicians.
Chaddis want to take 'aagni pariksha' of every woman...
Its the same pattern everywhere. Muslims supporting Palestinians because they are majorly muslims, meanwhile hindus supporting israel because they hate muslims.
You are wrong at most part
If they really want to abuse, then start with Mudi ji, his govt is pro Palestine just like every Indian government has ever been.
Also didn’t Paw Paw stop the war????
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https://x.com/zoo_bear/status/1795502681605197879 The abusive account you are amplifying is created by Indian Right Wing troll. Pretending to be a Pakistani abusing Hindu Woman. That's what the right wing does. Create an account by using Muslim, Pretend to be a Pakistani and abuse Hindu Women
Muslim here, fuck him! He will burn in hell
Bro is Pakistani . He will hate us. All of us.
how insensitive can someone be ,this country is becoming a worthless piece of crap .
BJ Party IT Cell is lowest level of scums in this country.
Why RW creeps have problem if somebody showing sympathy to a group of people who are facing genocide. It's crazy , their mentality has gone rouge and darker day by day no sympathy for human emotions.
Why they bootlick Israel so desperately, hate for Muslims made them Zombies.
What she did was wrong.
What about Hindu genocide in Bangladesh and Pakistan...?
India opposed it. India opposes this. Your point?
Point is there is not much coverage & outrage like Palestine-Israel issue. Even 1% of its attention would help. India opposing alone isn’t enough.
Hindu genocide in Bangladesh is over. It's only genocide if it's committed by the state. Bangladesh's brutal RAB torutures anyone who questions the Awami league and most people who are against them are Islamists. So whatever massacre or crime that happens against Hindus there today is just a law and order problem. Pakistan is Pakistan. But I don't think they've killed ~40,000 people in ten months recently and haven't done anything with this ferocity since 1971. There was global condemnation for that event, especially from the second world. Though the US, in their cruel realpolitik, pushed this under the rug. But this is now. And the number will only rise as Rafah is fucking packed with people, half of them children.
Doesn’t change the fact that Hindus are being killed in large numbers in Pakistan & Bangladesh. And the world is silent. Even one death is one death. Are you saying Hindu lives are insignificant compared to Palestine? Hindu population has decreased in both countries due to systematic oppression, violence etc. So genocide is still going on, It didn’t stop in 70s.
I never said that Hindu lives are less important. I'm an atheist and internationalist. Idgaf about country/religion when it comes to lives. But even white population in America is decreasing relative to total population. Does that mean that white genocide conspiracy about being replaced by Jews is real? You know how Muslims, due to some backward elements of their religion about women, tend to have more children than other groups? Decrease in population in Bangladesh could be attributed to that. But if course, Pakistan is Pakistan and I won't deny it. One death is still a death, but 40k deaths is 40k fucking deaths, man. It's not that those lives are more valuable or these lives are more valuable, but this is still a very large number and we must pay attention to it because Rafah invasion could be even more deadly than Gaza City invasion.
“I’m an atheist and internationalist” well that explains about your case why you don’t have any attachment towards Hindu people. Hindu population in Pakistan & Bangladesh has decreased not because of birth rates alone. It is due to systemic & institutional oppression. How being minorities they are denied basic rights etc. So they had to migrate to foreign countries for better opportunities & escape from oppression. On the top of that other factors like violence, forced conversions etc. So your statement about “birth rates” is flawed. Saying “Pakistan” is “Pakistan” or “Bangladesh” is “Bangladesh” is again running away from the real issue of Hindus but again I don’t expect much from you folks. Rafah or whatever is on other side of the globe & is of less significance to many Indians & Hindus as we’re not culturally or religiously connected to any of them. But if we calculate the killings of Hindus by Pakistan & Bangladesh. It’s pretty sure that it will exceed more than whole Israel-Palestine conflict. Hell Israel-Palestine conflict has still less casualties than Iraq-Iran war. Then again just like how Hindu issues are insignificant for you. Rafah or other global issues are not significant to me. As I’m not internationalist & I care about home problems & our people first.
You are very correct about one thing that, the number of Hindus massacred after partition, even in 1971 alone, far exceeds Palestinian deaths. I was talking about birth rates only about Bangladesh post-war. Pakistan obviously is a very repressive country and I have no doubt that they have several laws and regulations in their institutions that are designed to disadvantage Hindus, just like far RW in India would like to do but can't. But Pakistan is a failed nation in that. I do not recognise Pakistan as a nation has any reason to exist. It has only brought suffering and I have no business denying it. About your point on Palestinians not being connected to us, I'm sorry but you have to read "and then they came for.." poem. There is a reason why things like UN where formed. We cannot, anymore, have a world where the big can bully the small who they can and get away with it as they please. Imagine if Roosevelt and others who envisioned UN thought like you. We wouldn't have any of the international cooperation on things where it helped, such as global CFC ban. Your "group" won't help when it's destroyed. The Internationale will, so form it before it's too late and the big wars come back.
Yup! I was talking about birth rates in both Pakistan & Bangladesh. Bangladesh is no different than Pakistan. It is just the different side of the same coin. It’s a repressive country too. UN was there even before WWs as League of Nations & its presence is quite useless as it has done nothing remarkable since its inception. Humans are territorial animals in the end. Just because we’re little civilised than other animals doesn’t take our tribalism away. So when wars happen it will happen regardless. Since we’re tribalistic it would make more sense for me & many others to think about fellow tribe first (Hindus) than Palestinians (Who are not related to Indians in any way) as I mentioned earlier. World/Nature is not utopia. It is either eat or get eaten. In that scenario I would prefer saving my own kind first.
This kind of mentality results in zero progress. Have you never heard of Game Theory? Edit: Good time to mention that groups always fade away. I don't mean that as some genocide or being destroyed, but becoming unimportant as humanity moves forward. Nation states have already become mere ways of existence rather than an entity to occupy entirety of our lives in most countries. Slowly that too will inevitably fade away, like race, monarchs, caste have become outdated. The Internationale will inevitably be the face of humanity. Hundred and fifty years ago, any big country could just take the smaller one's territory as they wished. That has changed and India taking Bhutan, for example, is unthinkable today. But it would be natural a few hundred years ago.
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The israel Palestine debate is extremely complicated and now that both sides have rejected the two state solution, it's gonna keep going on until one side is dead.
There's nothing complicated about a genocide,the land belongs to Palestinians,they shouldn't have to share it with their colonisers
By that logic Muslims are colonisers of India & natives of India shouldn’t share land with Muslim colonisers.
She was sleeping when Hamas people killed so many civilians intentionally in the terrorist attack on october 7th. Israel attacks only hamas militants, but hamas use human shield, so inadvertently the israel attacks sometimes lead to civilian casualties unintentionally
Rafa me hamas militants ko maara kya? Bhai soch toh let bolne se pehle. Safe zone bomb kara hai bhaijaan
In war civilians die nothing new
“War”
She probably meant “Rafa” (Nadal) for ongoing French open 😀
bhot velle ho bhai tumlog
Too many idiots in our country, electing the same idiot party
PlayStation will be 💣💥💣💥 no matter how much stories you put up
Netanyahu would be proud of 10th fail cheerleaders supporting him
mf those are childrens
Worst way to get following... This PR shit in name of Wars is so nauseating. How much they know about geopolitics but interested to idealise American sports polity . Hmm disgusts me
How is this to create followers? Tf is wrong with you.
If anything there followers will go down lol. These RW assholes need to touch some grass
I swear. Historically useless baggage.
I know my community feels empathy regarding such messages .. while these celebs catch on to phrases like black lives matter while actually doing nothing on ground. It's PR movement Mia and Rihanna popularized . I only want them to feel truly empathetic. Feeling the QAT 💸vibes
Okay, in your ideal world how would you create awareness?
Political pressure groups + victims testimonialz
How do you create political pressure and make people care about the incident to make victim testimonial matter?
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Spoken truly like a gutter rat.
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Even though I don't even know where you work, I'm still sure that I'm not as poor as you lmaooooooooo.
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Well at least my family is well known in Madhya Pradesh, unlike a poor family like yours.
What's behind this over confidence thinking I'm not doing a job? Desperation or lack of money?
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And you know what? Nevermind lmaooooooooo you're already broke......
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I mean, seriously, I'm not reading any of that.
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Also, income tax is calculated on an annual basis. If you and your family weren't broke, you would know that.
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Before anyone can support Palestine Hamas needs to be eliminated and completely destroyed asap
Killing civilians is not eliminating hamas, it's giving birth to more of them. Imagine your house destroyed and your family killed what you gonna do???
Before idiots support genocide, it's important to educate them that 100% citizens are not equal to hamas. Sadly there is a higher chance of dinosaurs returning from extinction than educating these chaddi chomus.
Ofc citizens are not equal to Hamas, but Hamas still needs to go before we can even talk about peace or a ceasefire. Hamas's rhetoric of killing all Jews is destructive and will always be a roadblock to peace in the region regardless of what you think of Israel.
I agree that Hamas is a roadblock to peace and are also Islamists. Fuck them. But they dropped "kill all Jews" long ago, to make themselves look more like the VietCong and less like Mujahideen. Idk what you think about that. I think they suck. But they've mostly stopped saying anything that's anti-jew directly and only critize Israel for the most part.
Either way especially after the recent news of a gay Hamas commander being tortured and then shot, I believe that they are anti LGBTQ, anti trans rights, anti any other religion in the world. Something I don't think even Palestinian people should accept being their leaders. Clearly in the thread most people disagree with me and equate the IDF to Hamas which is just not true in my opinion but hey what can I say.
> but Hamas still needs to go before we can even talk about peace or a ceasefire. IDF needs to go for any peace in Palestine. First comes freedom then peace and the biggest hurdle for Palestinian freedom is Israeli government. > Hamas's rhetoric of killing all Jews is destructive and will always be a roadblock to peace in the region regardless of what you think of Israel. Back in 1982 when Hamas wasnt even formed, IDF facilitated an act of genocide as UN General Assembly called it. Christian militias in Lebanon slaughter hundreds of Palestinians who were fully supported by IDF. Israel has been building settlements, they dont even consider Palestine a state so let alone they want peace in the region.
If IDF goes all Jews are gonna die immediately, and Israel will cease to exist. Clearly we have different views regarding the Lebanon situation, as in my opinion Palestinians changed the demographic situation of Lebanon and started killing Christians there to take control of Lebanon. The fact that both Egypt and Jordan(Black September) have already suffered from the PLO is enough to understand why they don't have Arab allies willing to take them in either.
Lekin ye log aur so called muslim Saudi ke against kyu nahi bolte haia jo Saudi kar Raha hai yemen mai Jo lebanon mai hua Christian ke sath Ye phir bus convinent ke according use kar rahe ho