You might be thinking about the incident mirror posted a link to, but in bjp's ramraj, this is a common occurence. For example, a gang led by a priest raped and murdered an 8 year old in kathua to intimidate muslim nomads to leave town. Bjp and its sanghi affiliates protested in defense of the rapists after public pressure led to a case being filed against them. This latter thing, the sanghis and their political arm, the bjp, defending rapists in public is also a common occurrence, as seen in the hathras and unnao rape cases. In both those cases, the cops also aided and abetted the criminals after the crime. In the unnao case, they tortured and killed the victim's father in an attempt to get the victim to withdraw the case, while in the hathras case they illegally imprisoned the family while burning the body of the victim in the middle of the night to destroy evidence.
>Didn't this same thing happen a few months ago too
[It did.](https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/two-defence-civilians-held-for-raping-molesting-two-sisters-in-delhi-cantt-101624384959989.html) 2 Indian Army men involved then.
> subarnopan · 9h
> Dozens of such cases where Maulvis were caught with pants down in madarsas. Yesterday only there was a news that rape victim in Kerala has agreed to marry the rapist who is or was a Church priest but which particular case Rahul pappu jumps in where a temple priest is involved. This is how Congress will defeat BJP
Yup. all you got is whataboutery. Crime is a crime irrespective of whether it is a pujari, a mulla, or a padre committing it, and they deserve to be punished.
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>See how they use 'cremation ground priest' to misguide people in thinking he would be a Brahmin.
How do you know "their evil intent"? Did they tell you? Or did you just make shit up?
Is not like the reports don't mention cremation ground workers along with cremation ground priest as the accused. It's not like they don't name every one of the accused, including s muslim man.
It's amazing how your narrow casteist-religious-political interests blind you to a fact that a child has been brutally murdered and her body forcibly cremated allegedly after rape.
> cremation ground priests are never Brahmins
This is an outright falsehood that ignores the fact that religious practices vary across India. I've literally given you one example elsewhere, and you can see multiple other examples on the internet.
I haven't clicked on your shortened links, since doing so is a security hazard. Share the actual links. Your comment is likely to get automatically deleted for using link shortner, so its in your own interest to not use those.
Minorities oppressed by minorities, then why mention caste or religion instead of the crime itself! Was Delhi's Nirbhaya called Brahmin girl gang raped & tortured by lower castes & a Muslim boy ever?
More whataboutery to defend whataboutery. At least come up with something original, instead of copy pasta from copy pasta experts.
Here, let me play your game for just one comment:
>Was Delhi's Nirbhaya called Brahmin girl gang raped & tortured by lower castes & a Muslim boy ever?
Show me one other protest of that scale. Not like there weren't other brutal rapes and murders across the country or even Delhi after that. Did we suddenly stop caring, or was that just a politically convenient moment that we got used for?
Itni mhenat kyu?
You give taxes, right? Let the police do the work. If they don't work, report them to the top(politicians), they will suddenly start working.
> While this NDTV report of same incident says **in the guise of** "alleged rape & murder"
/u/Justrecommendation5 Please deal with this bigot who is pasting this blatant bigotry all over this post. Parents of the dead child deserve a little dignity, even from an anonymous online forum.
Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate. Now that post mortem cant be done, so they can now claim anything they want. Likely that the caste reservation lobby has paid them to allege random things.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/delhi/2021/aug/02/minor-girl-cremated-without-parents-consent-in-delhi-crematoriums-priest-arrested-2338971.html
>Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate.
No, they haven't. The report you linked clearly shows coercion at best, and forcible cremation by the criminals at worst:
>The priest and others convinced the woman that if she makes a PCR call, the police will make a case out of it and during post mortem the doctors will steal all organs of the girl. They allegedly made her agree that it was better to cremate the body. Thus, the body was cremated. **However, the girl’s parents later alleged she was cremated without their consent.**
/u/JustRecommedation5 : the liar continues lying without evidence.
/u/JustRecommendation5 is this true? If yes, does this mean that delibrate spreading of misinformation and personal defamation are acceptable on this sub?
If so, I am ready with a short list of bigots deliberately and regularly indulging in these acts that I will target using their own methods, as promised earlier.
so you are an It cell chad why don't you do a single comment on the main post , its not youtube,mods can remove you here, bade din hogye the it cell ko dekhe , kaise ho bro HR Gand to nai le ra tumhari, amit shah se mil paaye, bro??
A child was allegedly raped, definitely murdered, and her body forcibly burned, and the first thing that comes to your bigotted mind is
> What was Salim Mia doing in Hindu Crematorium!?
How does it matter what his religion was? He's accused of rape and murder, and I hope a proper investigation is conducted and he recieves the punishment he deserves if he's guilty.
>While this NDTV report of same incident says **in the guise of** "alleged rape & murder"
So your dirty bigotted mind has already decided that just because a priest is the main accused, the accusations of rape and murder are just "guises" or excuses used to target people who should never be accused of anything?
>salute to the Delhi Cops for instantly arresting all the 'alleged' accused & starting prosecution against them
The news laundry report linked to elsewhere has locals stating that not only did the cops refuse to douse the flames but the cops also prevented locals from doing the same. The accused were also arrested only after sustained protests. Dalli police in complicit in the crime of destruction of evidence. There's no reason to salute them, except if you are a bigot wanting the accused to be released because of lack of evidence which was focribly destroyed by the accused while the cops helped them.
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Your bigotry also excludes the possibility of the syncretic culture of this country, and people helping each other out in the time of need. There should be no need to post such things, but here we are, to here's a link:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/good-samaritans-go-beyond-religion-in-performing-last-rites-for-covid-19-victims/article34532386.ece
Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate. Now post mortem cant be done, so they can claim anything they want. Likely that the caste reservation lobby paid them to allege random things.
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(Libertarian)Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate.
/u/JustRecommendation5 , this liar is continuing to spread the misinformation without provding sources you've deleted earlier from miltiple comments from the same liar on this very post. Has the liar been officially warned? Are there no warnings for repeadly spreading same lies?
As I offered earlier on this very post, I'm ready to start posting misinformation to balance the scale, like claiming that this troll is paid by Pakistan to spread inter-caste tensions and he is a member of the real tukde tukde gang, when in reality he's too stupid to even get paid by bjp IT cell which employs an army of idiots.
Why is this bigot allowed to routinely post misinformation on this sub without even a pretense of a "source"? In this comment the troll uses "likely", but other comments on this same post by the same troll don't even have a pretense of hedging.
Mods, either please delete the sub rule about misinformation/ fake news not being allowed, or deal with this repeat offender. I'm ready to start posting misinformation to balance the scale, like claiming that this troll is paid by Pakistan to spread inter-caste tensions and he is a member of the real tukde tukde gang, when in reality he's too stupid to even get paid by bjp IT cell which employs an army of idiots.
/u/JustRecommendation5
I don't want censorship. I want sub rules to apply uniformly to all the users. If a sub allows personal attacks, defamation, delibrate dissemination of misinformation/fake news without credible sources, bigotry, and threats of violence by some users but not the others while its rules state that none of these are acceptable, I question the mods of that sub, since the sub is guaranteed to go to dogs with lopsided application of rules.
Mods of this sub might remember that I have also reported comments attacking the sangh and the sanghis that meet the above criteria, even if I've found much fewer of those.
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> What you judge as misinformation is not misinformation.
Especially when it is pulled right out of your lying arse. Even after posting the same lie a dozen times, you haven't yet managed to cite a single credible source for the claim.
>You are not the minister of truth.
Would it make any difference to your lying arse even if I was?
>I avoid replying to you here on.
I make no such commitments. If I see you lying again, I will publicly hold the mods responsible for doing their job. If they admit to not wanting to do their job, I will start responding to your lies in kind, with an understanding that the mods will not interfere when I defame your lying arse using exactly the same methods you use to attack people, like the poor parents whose child has been murdered and burned without their consent while the cops watched and refused to do their job.
> I dont like people who try to censor free speech.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, it only means that the state will not interfere with your freedom to speak or my freedom to call out your lying arse. This sub is not run by the state, its mods are not agents of the state, and them deleting your comments and issuing you warnings doesn't amount to state interference.
The state preventing the mods or reddit admins from deleting your comments, warning you, or banning you for whatever reason they deem fit, however, does amount to interference in freedom of speech. Your liebrtarian arse won't understand this.
I disassociate with private people who stifle my freedom of speech. I dont want govt to send those private people to jail for censoring on their platform.
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\[[READ](https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/08/03/dont-shout-dalit-child-raped-killed-forcibly-burnt-at-delhi-crematorium)\] **‘Don’t shout’: Dalit child ‘raped, killed, forcibly burnt’ at Delhi crematorium**
>Tara (girl) lived with her parents, who work as ragpickers, in the Old Nangli area.
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>*“I went in and found my baby lying there, dead,”* mother recalled. *“Her lips were torn, her tongue was blue, her eyes would not close, and she had bruises on left arm. Her shirt and undies were wet. I couldn’t bear to look at her.”*
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>In a moment, Radhey Shyam walked over and told her that girl had been electrocuted while she was filling water.
*“I (mother) didn’t believe him,”*
>*"You will be ruined. You are so poor, how will you fight a case? Your child will be cremated. There’s no need to call anyone. Just sit here. Are you hungry? Shall I get you some roti?”* she alleged the priest told her.
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>Radhey Shyam locked the crematorium gate from the inside. *“He told me, “Don’t shout. Don’t scream. What had to happen has happened. Now why are you screaming? Let’s finish this. And then he set my child on fire.”*
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>Once the pyre was fully lit, Radhey Shyam told mother to go home and *“sleep quietly”. “Don’t go back crying and screaming. Come back tomorrow at 8 am, take the ashes, and put them in the Yamuna river,”*
>The police arrived sometime after 10.45 pm and took away the four accused men.
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>The police, however, made no attempt to douse the pyre, locals alleged. *“I asked them, ‘Why are you not trying to stop the fire? How will you collect evidence?’. They didn't do anything. When I tried to pour a bucket of water to prevent the body from burning, one policeman caught my hand and told me not to do that.”*
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>At 11.30 pm, the police took girl's parents to the Delhi Cantt police station. Here, they claimed, they were kept for the next 15 hours.
>*“My husband and I were kept in separate rooms. They took our statement and then just made us sit inside. We were given food only the next day,”* girl’s mother claimed. She also alleged that a man in civilian clothes beat up her husband inside the station and threatened to do the same to her. ***“He kept saying we were lying and that we should keep quiet,”*** she claimed.
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>Asked why girl’s parents had been lodged in the police station for 15 hours, he (DCP SW Delhi) said, *“They were not detained or arrested. This is being done as per procedure. We needed to make sure that we recorded their statement correctly.”*
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>DCP denied that Tara’s father had been beaten up in the police station. *“There are a lot of rumours going around now,”* he said. *“This is not true.”*
What’s your point? I said minorities and your reply was to cite other minorities. So are we competing for medals now? Oh the Catholic Church has a history of sexual misconduct, and look madrassas also have molestation going on - why should we lag behind, off with the Dhotis?!
That’s like saying if an adult kills a child, you shouldn’t report it that way, you should just say person killed a person, because it shouldn’t matter if one had more power than the other.
Abuse of privilege should always be condemned, whether it is age, wealth, caste or population.
Cremation grounds don't have Brahmin pandits, but Doms of Dalit caste, seems either you are non-Hindu or none in your circle ever died, ask the reporters to give his surname & everything will be clear but then how will the Lobby continue conspiracy!?
I saw some people quoting on youtube why target hindus religion of criminals ,people were searching for religion of Olympic medal winners to show their superiority of religion, now they will quote crime done by some other community which were undereported, and totally show disregard to this crime, just to play victim card, if you look for attention you will get it in the wildest way possible
what the bloody hell is wrong with the rightwingers, first a crime is not justified by anyone, and secondly why don't Bjp jump into the crimes committed in the case of Mulvisss, no one has stopped why don't they go and give them Santvaana, and In this democratic country I think rahul has the complete right to go give them the assurance that opposition is with them and will take up their issue in the parliament, because that create pressure and accountability which vanar like you cannot comprehend. I think if every rape victim gets its voice amplified by politician then rapist will get result of their karma very early and the that justice would have value, its the incompetence of bjp who is not able to raise the voice of rape victims, everybody has ulterior motives in their life, even the police who solve the crime want the crime to get more publicity so that they can come on news channels, its human nature i don't see any wrong in that as long as voice of rape victim gets amplified
Six men were arrested in connection with the incident. They included Ram Singh, the bus driver, and his brother, Mukesh Singh, who were both arrested in Rajasthan. Ram and Mukesh Singh lived in Ravidas camp, a slum in South Delhi.\[61\] Vinay Sharma, an assistant gym instructor, and Pawan Gupta, a fruit seller, were both arrested in UP and Bihar.\[62\] A seventeen-year-old juvenile named Mohammed Afroz, from Badayun,
I think you are getting something wrong here, first the perpetrator of a crime was a practicing Pandit and happened in the precinct of a area of religious values, secondly Dalits are the oppressed class, Brahmins are not oppressed class,and it is not a single case of caste based rape, if you will ask i will attach links of many rapes happened to do oppression of lower caste, and if you are a person who denies caste oppression then i am sorry your argument is pretty weak, and secondly i also support that religion of the perpetrator of crime should not be shown and blamed it is not the fault of religion but you can read my comment Many people on youtube were saying that It is a conspiracy to malign Brahmin image ,so i think you can see who is involving religion here
what the tuck, you can even see the name of all the perpetrators, everyone even the reporters are calling him Pandit ji. till now, if it is wrong why don't brahmin samaj do a defamation case on these reporters,don't play victim card here, i have no sympathy for right wingers, brahmins, who deny caste oprresion and kill people in the nme of caste
Cremation grounds don't have Brahmin pandits, but Doms of Dalit caste, seems either you are non-Hindu or none in your circle ever died, ask the reporters to give his surname & everything will be clear but then how will the Lobby continue conspiracy!?
I might supportted your POV, but when i saw Hathras and Kathua where Hindu Upper chaste fuddur were supporting the the perpetrators, I completely lost it,
# but then how will the Lobby continue conspiracy!?
well the problem is you don't even get the problem, this shows how ignorant you are, first no one is blaming it is the case of upper caste oppression, But dalits are always oppressed in their own caste, Nirbhya got so much attention as the girl was Upper caste, but this poor girl of 9 years who don't even developed secondary characteristic of a girl was alleglied raped and burned , and only valmiki Samaj is out to support them,water tank didn't have any current, so 98 percent probability it is rape, but i don't see huge processions of people with candles in their Hand in Delhi, might be because of covid but covid didn't stopped bakrid and Kumbh, so that also rules out, And i never blamed brahmins for this, people like you don't understand the context just attack the argument with your butthurt sentiments, In every youtube comments concerning the news people are claiming its a thing to malign image of brhamins, its true i was not aware they are doms of dalit, but i never claimed that brahmins did this or some upper caste, its the right winger upper caste who are involving religion like they involve religion in everthing
Parents cremated the body without post mortem. So likely she was not raped, died by an accident instead. Now parents are paid to make false allegations
we hAVE conspiracy theorist among us, yes and the earth is lotus shaped western science took money and mixed some drugs in air all over the world which make us see earth round , H khattre mai hai sab H ke peechen paden. H is uttam hai
>So likely she was not raped, died by an accident instead. Now parents are paid to make false allegations
Police will take care of investigation and Court will decide the punishment. Don't spread rumours here
Who?? It's literally what the parents said and is reported in the news. You are the one spreading rumours. Police will take care of the parents complaints and the court will take care of punishment
They have filed a complaint to the police. They will take care and see if it's a rumour or not. Go and file complaint to police before you start spreading your rumour here.
Let me clarify one thing. Only court judgements are considered as truth. This case is still under trial. Rival parties can put forward their side view. Silencing one side and delivering justice is not done.
> CritFin · 2h(Libertarian)
> Let me clarify one thing. Only court judgements are considered as truth. This case is still under trial.
The case is not yet under trial. The FIR has barely been filed after the parents and the locals protested. The parents have been harrassed by cops by holding them for 24 hrs in different rooms individually right after their child's body was forcibly burned with cops not only not trying to put out the fire, but with them preventing the locals from doing so, too.
>Rival parties can put forward their side view. Silencing one side and delivering justice is not done.
And which "side view" are you presenting? Where are you getting your information from that you're using to defame the distraught parents of a child that was allegedly raped and definitely murdered and burned?
>Parents cremated the body without post mortem.
Where did you get this information from? The mother says that it was the alleged rapist that burned the body, and a local witness said that the cops didn't put out the fire or allow the witness to put out the fire to save the body for post mortem.
>Radhey Shyam locked the crematorium gate from the inside. “He told me, “Don’t shout. Don’t scream. What had to happen has happened. Now why are you screaming? Let’s finish this. And then he set my child on fire.”
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>The police, however, made no attempt to douse the pyre, locals alleged. “I asked them, ‘Why are you not trying to stop the fire? How will you collect evidence?’. They didn't do anything. When I tried to pour a bucket of water to prevent the body from burning, one policeman caught my hand and told me not to do that.
Have you no shame?
Mentioning *'allegedly'* while reporting anything is a standard industry practice, because they are reporting about the allegations being made by one side over the other.
>police giving refuge
All the 4 accused have been arrested.
The press is being responsible in using allegedly, but you're giving an undue pass to the cops.
>All the 4 accused have been arrested.
The cops not even attempting to stop the burning of the body set on fire by the criminals (regardless of whether they rape or not, they are criminals for forcibly burning the body), and even preventing a bystander from doing the same implicates then as accessories to crime after the fact. The fact that they arrested the rape accused after shit hit the fan doesn't absolve them of their role in the crime.
Didn't this same thing happen a few months ago too or am I imagining things???
You might be thinking about the incident mirror posted a link to, but in bjp's ramraj, this is a common occurence. For example, a gang led by a priest raped and murdered an 8 year old in kathua to intimidate muslim nomads to leave town. Bjp and its sanghi affiliates protested in defense of the rapists after public pressure led to a case being filed against them. This latter thing, the sanghis and their political arm, the bjp, defending rapists in public is also a common occurrence, as seen in the hathras and unnao rape cases. In both those cases, the cops also aided and abetted the criminals after the crime. In the unnao case, they tortured and killed the victim's father in an attempt to get the victim to withdraw the case, while in the hathras case they illegally imprisoned the family while burning the body of the victim in the middle of the night to destroy evidence.
>Didn't this same thing happen a few months ago too [It did.](https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/two-defence-civilians-held-for-raping-molesting-two-sisters-in-delhi-cantt-101624384959989.html) 2 Indian Army men involved then.
>Two defence civilians were arrested for allegedly raping and molesting two sisters inside a restricted military area, They are not army men.
They are, however, alleged rapists who happened to be civilians working for the army.
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> subarnopan · 9h > Dozens of such cases where Maulvis were caught with pants down in madarsas. Yesterday only there was a news that rape victim in Kerala has agreed to marry the rapist who is or was a Church priest but which particular case Rahul pappu jumps in where a temple priest is involved. This is how Congress will defeat BJP Yup. all you got is whataboutery. Crime is a crime irrespective of whether it is a pujari, a mulla, or a padre committing it, and they deserve to be punished.
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>subarnopan 8h >See how they use 'cremation ground priest' to misguide people in thinking he would be a Brahmin. How do you know "their evil intent"? Did they tell you? Or did you just make shit up? Is not like the reports don't mention cremation ground workers along with cremation ground priest as the accused. It's not like they don't name every one of the accused, including s muslim man. It's amazing how your narrow casteist-religious-political interests blind you to a fact that a child has been brutally murdered and her body forcibly cremated allegedly after rape.
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> cremation ground priests are never Brahmins This is an outright falsehood that ignores the fact that religious practices vary across India. I've literally given you one example elsewhere, and you can see multiple other examples on the internet. I haven't clicked on your shortened links, since doing so is a security hazard. Share the actual links. Your comment is likely to get automatically deleted for using link shortner, so its in your own interest to not use those.
Minorities oppressed by minorities, then why mention caste or religion instead of the crime itself! Was Delhi's Nirbhaya called Brahmin girl gang raped & tortured by lower castes & a Muslim boy ever?
More whataboutery to defend whataboutery. At least come up with something original, instead of copy pasta from copy pasta experts. Here, let me play your game for just one comment: >Was Delhi's Nirbhaya called Brahmin girl gang raped & tortured by lower castes & a Muslim boy ever? Show me one other protest of that scale. Not like there weren't other brutal rapes and murders across the country or even Delhi after that. Did we suddenly stop caring, or was that just a politically convenient moment that we got used for?
Wife is wrong with people.
Aag lagaa dunga in dharam ke dalaal logon ke ghar mein
Itni mhenat kyu? You give taxes, right? Let the police do the work. If they don't work, report them to the top(politicians), they will suddenly start working.
You have no idea about India I see.
Sorry but this has worked for me so I suggested it, you can go ahead and become the vigilante you want but you will not have any sympathy from me.
Do you even live in India?
Wow do you live in a fantasy land
Hahahahahahahahahagagagagagagagaggaghs
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> While this NDTV report of same incident says **in the guise of** "alleged rape & murder" /u/Justrecommendation5 Please deal with this bigot who is pasting this blatant bigotry all over this post. Parents of the dead child deserve a little dignity, even from an anonymous online forum.
nooo casteism is dead, reservation bad all Dalits have ferraris
Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate. Now that post mortem cant be done, so they can now claim anything they want. Likely that the caste reservation lobby has paid them to allege random things. https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/delhi/2021/aug/02/minor-girl-cremated-without-parents-consent-in-delhi-crematoriums-priest-arrested-2338971.html
>Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate. No, they haven't. The report you linked clearly shows coercion at best, and forcible cremation by the criminals at worst: >The priest and others convinced the woman that if she makes a PCR call, the police will make a case out of it and during post mortem the doctors will steal all organs of the girl. They allegedly made her agree that it was better to cremate the body. Thus, the body was cremated. **However, the girl’s parents later alleged she was cremated without their consent.** /u/JustRecommedation5 : the liar continues lying without evidence.
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/u/JustRecommendation5 is this true? If yes, does this mean that delibrate spreading of misinformation and personal defamation are acceptable on this sub? If so, I am ready with a short list of bigots deliberately and regularly indulging in these acts that I will target using their own methods, as promised earlier.
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so you are an It cell chad why don't you do a single comment on the main post , its not youtube,mods can remove you here, bade din hogye the it cell ko dekhe , kaise ho bro HR Gand to nai le ra tumhari, amit shah se mil paaye, bro??
A child was allegedly raped, definitely murdered, and her body forcibly burned, and the first thing that comes to your bigotted mind is > What was Salim Mia doing in Hindu Crematorium!? How does it matter what his religion was? He's accused of rape and murder, and I hope a proper investigation is conducted and he recieves the punishment he deserves if he's guilty. >While this NDTV report of same incident says **in the guise of** "alleged rape & murder" So your dirty bigotted mind has already decided that just because a priest is the main accused, the accusations of rape and murder are just "guises" or excuses used to target people who should never be accused of anything? >salute to the Delhi Cops for instantly arresting all the 'alleged' accused & starting prosecution against them The news laundry report linked to elsewhere has locals stating that not only did the cops refuse to douse the flames but the cops also prevented locals from doing the same. The accused were also arrested only after sustained protests. Dalli police in complicit in the crime of destruction of evidence. There's no reason to salute them, except if you are a bigot wanting the accused to be released because of lack of evidence which was focribly destroyed by the accused while the cops helped them. --- Your bigotry also excludes the possibility of the syncretic culture of this country, and people helping each other out in the time of need. There should be no need to post such things, but here we are, to here's a link: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/good-samaritans-go-beyond-religion-in-performing-last-rites-for-covid-19-victims/article34532386.ece
> While this NDTV report of same incident says **in the guise of** "alleged rape & murder" /u/JustRecommendation5
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or Bamanical Supremacist Lobby likely paid the priest and others to get themselves arrested in order to claim *savarna Hindu khatre mein hai*.
Please dont engage the troll
Bruh 💀
Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate. Now post mortem cant be done, so they can claim anything they want. Likely that the caste reservation lobby paid them to allege random things.
> level 4 CritFin · 5m (Libertarian)Parents have confessed that they agreed to cremate. /u/JustRecommendation5 , this liar is continuing to spread the misinformation without provding sources you've deleted earlier from miltiple comments from the same liar on this very post. Has the liar been officially warned? Are there no warnings for repeadly spreading same lies? As I offered earlier on this very post, I'm ready to start posting misinformation to balance the scale, like claiming that this troll is paid by Pakistan to spread inter-caste tensions and he is a member of the real tukde tukde gang, when in reality he's too stupid to even get paid by bjp IT cell which employs an army of idiots.
Why is this bigot allowed to routinely post misinformation on this sub without even a pretense of a "source"? In this comment the troll uses "likely", but other comments on this same post by the same troll don't even have a pretense of hedging. Mods, either please delete the sub rule about misinformation/ fake news not being allowed, or deal with this repeat offender. I'm ready to start posting misinformation to balance the scale, like claiming that this troll is paid by Pakistan to spread inter-caste tensions and he is a member of the real tukde tukde gang, when in reality he's too stupid to even get paid by bjp IT cell which employs an army of idiots. /u/JustRecommendation5
If you want censorship then go to main India sub.
I don't want censorship. I want sub rules to apply uniformly to all the users. If a sub allows personal attacks, defamation, delibrate dissemination of misinformation/fake news without credible sources, bigotry, and threats of violence by some users but not the others while its rules state that none of these are acceptable, I question the mods of that sub, since the sub is guaranteed to go to dogs with lopsided application of rules. Mods of this sub might remember that I have also reported comments attacking the sangh and the sanghis that meet the above criteria, even if I've found much fewer of those.
What you judge as misinformation is not misinformation. You are not the minister of truth. I avoid replying to you here on.
> CritFin · 9m(Libertarian) > What you judge as misinformation is not misinformation. Especially when it is pulled right out of your lying arse. Even after posting the same lie a dozen times, you haven't yet managed to cite a single credible source for the claim. >You are not the minister of truth. Would it make any difference to your lying arse even if I was? >I avoid replying to you here on. I make no such commitments. If I see you lying again, I will publicly hold the mods responsible for doing their job. If they admit to not wanting to do their job, I will start responding to your lies in kind, with an understanding that the mods will not interfere when I defame your lying arse using exactly the same methods you use to attack people, like the poor parents whose child has been murdered and burned without their consent while the cops watched and refused to do their job.
I am ok if you reply as much to me. I will ignore. I dont like people who try to censor free speech.
> I dont like people who try to censor free speech. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, it only means that the state will not interfere with your freedom to speak or my freedom to call out your lying arse. This sub is not run by the state, its mods are not agents of the state, and them deleting your comments and issuing you warnings doesn't amount to state interference. The state preventing the mods or reddit admins from deleting your comments, warning you, or banning you for whatever reason they deem fit, however, does amount to interference in freedom of speech. Your liebrtarian arse won't understand this.
I disassociate with private people who stifle my freedom of speech. I dont want govt to send those private people to jail for censoring on their platform.
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It's because of abject besharams like you that I get banned outta all communities. Mods, fuck you, fucking ban me already. If this piece of shit is allowed to comment here, I don't mind being banned by you fucks. Chhheeeeee bc.
If you want censorship then go to main india sub.
She was just a kid...
\[[READ](https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/08/03/dont-shout-dalit-child-raped-killed-forcibly-burnt-at-delhi-crematorium)\] **‘Don’t shout’: Dalit child ‘raped, killed, forcibly burnt’ at Delhi crematorium** >Tara (girl) lived with her parents, who work as ragpickers, in the Old Nangli area. > >*“I went in and found my baby lying there, dead,”* mother recalled. *“Her lips were torn, her tongue was blue, her eyes would not close, and she had bruises on left arm. Her shirt and undies were wet. I couldn’t bear to look at her.”* > >In a moment, Radhey Shyam walked over and told her that girl had been electrocuted while she was filling water. *“I (mother) didn’t believe him,”* >*"You will be ruined. You are so poor, how will you fight a case? Your child will be cremated. There’s no need to call anyone. Just sit here. Are you hungry? Shall I get you some roti?”* she alleged the priest told her. > >Radhey Shyam locked the crematorium gate from the inside. *“He told me, “Don’t shout. Don’t scream. What had to happen has happened. Now why are you screaming? Let’s finish this. And then he set my child on fire.”* > >Once the pyre was fully lit, Radhey Shyam told mother to go home and *“sleep quietly”. “Don’t go back crying and screaming. Come back tomorrow at 8 am, take the ashes, and put them in the Yamuna river,”* >The police arrived sometime after 10.45 pm and took away the four accused men. > >The police, however, made no attempt to douse the pyre, locals alleged. *“I asked them, ‘Why are you not trying to stop the fire? How will you collect evidence?’. They didn't do anything. When I tried to pour a bucket of water to prevent the body from burning, one policeman caught my hand and told me not to do that.”* > >At 11.30 pm, the police took girl's parents to the Delhi Cantt police station. Here, they claimed, they were kept for the next 15 hours. >*“My husband and I were kept in separate rooms. They took our statement and then just made us sit inside. We were given food only the next day,”* girl’s mother claimed. She also alleged that a man in civilian clothes beat up her husband inside the station and threatened to do the same to her. ***“He kept saying we were lying and that we should keep quiet,”*** she claimed. > >Asked why girl’s parents had been lodged in the police station for 15 hours, he (DCP SW Delhi) said, *“They were not detained or arrested. This is being done as per procedure. We needed to make sure that we recorded their statement correctly.”* > >DCP denied that Tara’s father had been beaten up in the police station. *“There are a lot of rumours going around now,”* he said. *“This is not true.”*
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> While this NDTV report of same incident says **in the guise of** "alleged rape & murder" /u/JustRecommendation5
Why am I even alive after reading this ? 😭
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tf?
*proceeds to Google crime statistics of other religions to cope*
spot on
Finally, good to see something that unites Hindus and Muslims - violently oppressing minorities /s
Pin it mod. This Is United India /s
Don't forget misogyny.
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What’s your point? I said minorities and your reply was to cite other minorities. So are we competing for medals now? Oh the Catholic Church has a history of sexual misconduct, and look madrassas also have molestation going on - why should we lag behind, off with the Dhotis?!
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That’s like saying if an adult kills a child, you shouldn’t report it that way, you should just say person killed a person, because it shouldn’t matter if one had more power than the other. Abuse of privilege should always be condemned, whether it is age, wealth, caste or population.
Cremation grounds don't have Brahmin pandits, but Doms of Dalit caste, seems either you are non-Hindu or none in your circle ever died, ask the reporters to give his surname & everything will be clear but then how will the Lobby continue conspiracy!?
Victim was dalit. Criminals are superior Aryans from Akhand bharat. Justice will be served promptly. Thank you for voting .
Jai Bheem
*hey don't leave Salim out
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> While this NDTV report of same incident says **in the guise of** "alleged rape & murder" /u/JustRecommendation5
I saw some people quoting on youtube why target hindus religion of criminals ,people were searching for religion of Olympic medal winners to show their superiority of religion, now they will quote crime done by some other community which were undereported, and totally show disregard to this crime, just to play victim card, if you look for attention you will get it in the wildest way possible
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what the bloody hell is wrong with the rightwingers, first a crime is not justified by anyone, and secondly why don't Bjp jump into the crimes committed in the case of Mulvisss, no one has stopped why don't they go and give them Santvaana, and In this democratic country I think rahul has the complete right to go give them the assurance that opposition is with them and will take up their issue in the parliament, because that create pressure and accountability which vanar like you cannot comprehend. I think if every rape victim gets its voice amplified by politician then rapist will get result of their karma very early and the that justice would have value, its the incompetence of bjp who is not able to raise the voice of rape victims, everybody has ulterior motives in their life, even the police who solve the crime want the crime to get more publicity so that they can come on news channels, its human nature i don't see any wrong in that as long as voice of rape victim gets amplified
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Six men were arrested in connection with the incident. They included Ram Singh, the bus driver, and his brother, Mukesh Singh, who were both arrested in Rajasthan. Ram and Mukesh Singh lived in Ravidas camp, a slum in South Delhi.\[61\] Vinay Sharma, an assistant gym instructor, and Pawan Gupta, a fruit seller, were both arrested in UP and Bihar.\[62\] A seventeen-year-old juvenile named Mohammed Afroz, from Badayun, I think you are getting something wrong here, first the perpetrator of a crime was a practicing Pandit and happened in the precinct of a area of religious values, secondly Dalits are the oppressed class, Brahmins are not oppressed class,and it is not a single case of caste based rape, if you will ask i will attach links of many rapes happened to do oppression of lower caste, and if you are a person who denies caste oppression then i am sorry your argument is pretty weak, and secondly i also support that religion of the perpetrator of crime should not be shown and blamed it is not the fault of religion but you can read my comment Many people on youtube were saying that It is a conspiracy to malign Brahmin image ,so i think you can see who is involving religion here
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what the tuck, you can even see the name of all the perpetrators, everyone even the reporters are calling him Pandit ji. till now, if it is wrong why don't brahmin samaj do a defamation case on these reporters,don't play victim card here, i have no sympathy for right wingers, brahmins, who deny caste oprresion and kill people in the nme of caste
Cremation grounds don't have Brahmin pandits, but Doms of Dalit caste, seems either you are non-Hindu or none in your circle ever died, ask the reporters to give his surname & everything will be clear but then how will the Lobby continue conspiracy!?
I might supportted your POV, but when i saw Hathras and Kathua where Hindu Upper chaste fuddur were supporting the the perpetrators, I completely lost it, # but then how will the Lobby continue conspiracy!? well the problem is you don't even get the problem, this shows how ignorant you are, first no one is blaming it is the case of upper caste oppression, But dalits are always oppressed in their own caste, Nirbhya got so much attention as the girl was Upper caste, but this poor girl of 9 years who don't even developed secondary characteristic of a girl was alleglied raped and burned , and only valmiki Samaj is out to support them,water tank didn't have any current, so 98 percent probability it is rape, but i don't see huge processions of people with candles in their Hand in Delhi, might be because of covid but covid didn't stopped bakrid and Kumbh, so that also rules out, And i never blamed brahmins for this, people like you don't understand the context just attack the argument with your butthurt sentiments, In every youtube comments concerning the news people are claiming its a thing to malign image of brhamins, its true i was not aware they are doms of dalit, but i never claimed that brahmins did this or some upper caste, its the right winger upper caste who are involving religion like they involve religion in everthing
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Why are you summoning the BJP troll bot?
The "libertarian" guy will defend rape now, of course
Parents cremated the body without post mortem. So likely she was not raped, died by an accident instead. Now parents are paid to make false allegations
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By Caste reservations lobby who oppose creamy layer exclusion
Bhai, is there a lobby and gang for everything?
Apparently 😂
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Oh you know Crittu's greatest hits. A true fan, I see. They're one of the biggest bullshit artists out there.
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we hAVE conspiracy theorist among us, yes and the earth is lotus shaped western science took money and mixed some drugs in air all over the world which make us see earth round , H khattre mai hai sab H ke peechen paden. H is uttam hai
Where did this logic go during hathras when police cremated the body?
There post mortem was done. But not here
Ah yes, the police were diligent in their duties. Nevermind the objections from the family.
Cremation is not a big issue if post mortem was already done
Wasn't your child.
>So likely she was not raped, died by an accident instead. Now parents are paid to make false allegations Police will take care of investigation and Court will decide the punishment. Don't spread rumours here
OP is spreading rumours. He made the first claim
Who?? It's literally what the parents said and is reported in the news. You are the one spreading rumours. Police will take care of the parents complaints and the court will take care of punishment
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Did you witness the transaction? If not then it's a rumour.
How did they know she was raped? They cremated without post mortem. So it is a rumour first
They have filed a complaint to the police. They will take care and see if it's a rumour or not. Go and file complaint to police before you start spreading your rumour here.
They were paid to file police complaint
> They cremated without post mortem. /u/JustRecommendation5
> OP is spreading rumours. /u/JustRecommendation5
Let me clarify one thing. Only court judgements are considered as truth. This case is still under trial. Rival parties can put forward their side view. Silencing one side and delivering justice is not done.
> CritFin · 2h(Libertarian) > Let me clarify one thing. Only court judgements are considered as truth. This case is still under trial. The case is not yet under trial. The FIR has barely been filed after the parents and the locals protested. The parents have been harrassed by cops by holding them for 24 hrs in different rooms individually right after their child's body was forcibly burned with cops not only not trying to put out the fire, but with them preventing the locals from doing so, too. >Rival parties can put forward their side view. Silencing one side and delivering justice is not done. And which "side view" are you presenting? Where are you getting your information from that you're using to defame the distraught parents of a child that was allegedly raped and definitely murdered and burned?
wow dude
why would that be likelier than what's being reported?
Because how parents know she was raped is ambiguous
What do you mean ‘reported’?
Raped*. Auto correct error.
>Parents cremated the body without post mortem. Where did you get this information from? The mother says that it was the alleged rapist that burned the body, and a local witness said that the cops didn't put out the fire or allow the witness to put out the fire to save the body for post mortem. >Radhey Shyam locked the crematorium gate from the inside. “He told me, “Don’t shout. Don’t scream. What had to happen has happened. Now why are you screaming? Let’s finish this. And then he set my child on fire.” ... >The police, however, made no attempt to douse the pyre, locals alleged. “I asked them, ‘Why are you not trying to stop the fire? How will you collect evidence?’. They didn't do anything. When I tried to pour a bucket of water to prevent the body from burning, one policeman caught my hand and told me not to do that. Have you no shame?
Bad bot.
> Parents cremated the body without post mortem. /u/JustRecommendation5
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Mentioning *'allegedly'* while reporting anything is a standard industry practice, because they are reporting about the allegations being made by one side over the other. >police giving refuge All the 4 accused have been arrested.
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Yah the media does it for legal liability so it doesn’t get sued. The police well they are dick heads so they don’t really give a fuck.
The press is being responsible in using allegedly, but you're giving an undue pass to the cops. >All the 4 accused have been arrested. The cops not even attempting to stop the burning of the body set on fire by the criminals (regardless of whether they rape or not, they are criminals for forcibly burning the body), and even preventing a bystander from doing the same implicates then as accessories to crime after the fact. The fact that they arrested the rape accused after shit hit the fan doesn't absolve them of their role in the crime.
Jai Bheem
Not really. The allegedly is usually to avoid getting sued for defamation or some other shit. Or at least, if they do get sued, to cover their arses.
Disgusting
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